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LUMBEE TRIBE OF NORTH CAROLINA
6984 NC HIGHWAY 711 WEST
PEMBROKE, NORTH CAROLINA 28372
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SEPTEMBER 2015 TRIBAL COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING
CHAIRMAN PAUL BROOKS
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TRIBAL COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES
EVAN DAVENPORT
TERRY HUNT
JANIE OXENDINE MCFARLAND
LESAUNDRI HUNT
JONATHAN LOCKLEAR
BOBBY OXENDINE
JARROD LOWERY
DOUGLAS LOCKLEAR
LARRY TOWNSEND
ROBERT CHAVIS
JAN LOWERY
BILL BREWINGTON
DANIEL JONES
ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS
TERRY COLLINS
FRANK COOPER
AREATHA PATTERSON
SHELLEY STRICKLAND
WILLIAM MAIDEN
HOMER FIELDS
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APPEARANCES
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TRIBAL COUNCIL MEMBERS
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EVAN DAVENPORT
TERRY HUNT
JANIE OXENDINE MCFARLAND
LESAUNDRI HUNT
JONATHAN LOCKLEAR
JARROD LOWERY
LARRY TOWNSEND
ROBERT CHAVIS
JAN LOWERY
BILL BREWINGTON
ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS
TERRY COLLINS
AREATHA PATTERSON
SHELLEY STRICKLAND
HOMER FIELDS
BOBBY OXENDINE
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ALSO PRESENT
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Chairman Paul Brooks
Sheila Beck
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Bosco Locklear
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Tony Hunt
Rose Marie Townsend
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PROCEEDINGS
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The following proceedings took place on Thursday,
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September 17, 2015 at 6:30 p.m.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We want to call our
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meeting to order, our September tribal council
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meeting.
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the invocation for us.
I want to ask Mr. Evan if he would do
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(A prayer was given by Mr. Evan
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Davenport.)
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Larry, would you
do the Pledge of Allegiance, please?
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(The Pledge of Allegiance was
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rendered.)
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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Preamble, Mr. Bill.
Would you lead us in the preamble, please?
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(The preamble to the
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constitution was read.)
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Thank you.
Before we
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do the roll call, if you have a cell phone,
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make sure it's on silence or vibrate, please.
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And if anyone has any head gear, if the men
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have the head gear, would you -- we'd like to
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ask that you remove that at this time, please.
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Ms. Jan, the roll call, please.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Evan Davenport?
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MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Terry Hunt?
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MR. TERRY HUNT:
Here.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Janie Oxendine McFarland?
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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Here.
Here.
Lesaundri Hunt?
Here.
Alton Locklear?
Ms. Jan, Mr.
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Locklear's out of town on business.
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he would be out of town, and I'd like to excuse
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him.
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five, he was in the emergency room -- some kind
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of sickness that I'm not aware of, but I spoke
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to his wife.
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He told me
Also, William Maiden -- as of four to
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Mr. Speaker, I would like
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to add Shelley Strickland to that.
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some family issues, and that's why he's not
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with us tonight.
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MR. JARROD LOWERY:
He's got
Mr. Speaker, I'd like
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to add Mr. Frank Cooper tonight.
He had work
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obligations at this time.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
I move that these
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members be excused.
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MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Second.
Thank you, Mr. Larry.
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All in favor of excusing all the members, say
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aye.
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(The council voted.)
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Jonathan Locklear?
Bobby Oxendine?
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Here.
Larry Townsend?
Here.
Douglas Locklear?
MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Here.
Jan Lowery, here.
Bill
Brewington?
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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Robert
Chavis?
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Jarrod
Lowery?
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Here.
Present.
Daniel Jones?
Anita
Hammonds Blanks?
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Here.
Terry Collins?
Here.
Areatha Patterson?
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MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
Here.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. HOMER FIELDS:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
Mr. Speaker, add Mr.
And Homer Fields?
Here.
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Doug Locklear, Mr. Bobby Oxendine, and Mr.
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Daniel Jones to those members being excused.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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agreement, say aye, please.
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Okay.
(The council voted.)
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
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Thank you.
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and approval of the agenda.
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motion?
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
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MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
a second.
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Any opposed?
Next on our agenda is the review
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All those in
May I have a
Motion.
Second.
We have a motion and
All in favor, say aye.
(The council voted.)
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Any no?
Thank you.
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Next on the agenda is the review and approval
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of the August tribal council minutes and
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actions.
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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
Mr. Speaker, I move
to have the minutes be approved as presented.
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MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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Townsend.
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aye.
Thank you, Mr.
We have a second.
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Second.
All in favor, say
(The council voted.)
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Next on our agenda is
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the AT&T presentation by Mr. John Lyon.
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here?
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MR. TONY HUNT:
Is he
Mr. Speaker, we had him on
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the agenda, but they haven't notified us that
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they weren't coming, so we don't know what the
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problem is.
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That's my theory on it.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
We'll move to
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the next item here, recognition of the boys and
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girls club My Heritage A-Z study.
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Oxendine, Terry Hunt, and Chairman Brooks.
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the Chairman present?
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Jarrod, would you stand in for Mr. Bobby?
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Jarrod worked on this program.
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would you like to speak to the program before
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we do the presentation?
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Mr. Bobby
Mr. Bobby's not.
MS. ROSE MARIE TOWNSEND:
Good evening.
Is
Mr.
Mr.
Ms. Townsend,
Thank you, Mr.
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Speaker.
We're glad to be here
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tonight for many reasons.
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to say that we completed a very successful
First of all, I want
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summer program this summer, and on behalf of
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the staff, I want you to know that because of
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the success of our summer program, we have
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enrolled over 20 additional students when
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school kicked off this year, and that was
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students that have not ever been a part of the
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boys and girls club.
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this summer and had a meaningful and worthwhile
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experience, they chose to come back and become
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a part of our academic year program.
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evening, we want to recognize some students who
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did an exceptional job with the project that we
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launched this summer that had never been done.
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It was a project that allowed our members to
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explore and talk about being uniquely Lumbee.
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Who are the Lumbee people?
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makes them so unique?
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comprise a notebook -- we call it our A-Z
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notebook, and we talked with the students about
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the government, we talked with them about
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important individuals in our history, important
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places in our history, and important events in
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our history.
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came from research that our staff had done and
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letters of the alphabet, and they took each of
But because they came to
But this
What is it that
Part of that was to
They took that conversation that
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those letters, and they defined a word.
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example, we talked about the fact that we are
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the Lumbee nation, and as a nation, we have
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citizens.
We do not have members, we have
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citizens.
The citizen could be the c-word.
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also talked about the fact that as a
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government, which was a g-word.
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constitution, so that was another c-word, and
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from that we talked about our three branches of
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government, and we talked about the tribal
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council -- the legislative branch making laws,
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the executive side doing the day-to-day
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operations, the fact that we have a chairman
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and not a chief.
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tonight -- as we talked about it, he was the
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one that could tell us -- he was the first one
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to say who our chairman was, so we then talked
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about our judicial branch of government and the
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two pieces.
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For
We
We have a
And our youngest member
So the notebooks are on display over to my
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left, so if you have an opportunity, we will
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leave those there.
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council meeting, go through and see some of
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those that the kids came up with as it related
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to our alphabet, A-Z, and how some of those
At the conclusion of the
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things tied into us as Lumbee people.
So what we did to keep kids motivated --
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there's a lot.
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it's not only kids, but it's adults too.
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can feed folks and you can give them money.
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And so, at the beginning of this process, we
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told the kids that we would judge the notebooks
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on a criteria, and that we would make a
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presentation of savings bonds to them -- to
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acquaint them with that term.
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what?
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January 2012.
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online from the National Treasury.
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not do that as a tribe or just them as a
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business.
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went to talking about a savings account, which
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we could not do without parents, so we are
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giving them a check tonight.
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being presented to them by the council because
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the council agreed that they would make their
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monetary donation to them, and then we are
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going to give them a plaque.
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You can do two things -- and
You
Well, guess
You can't buy them no longer as of
We went from trying to get them
We could
You cannot even purchase them, so we
The check is
There were two processes in this.
They
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were first judged at their own club, and we had
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winners from the club -- from the clubs here
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with us tonight, all four clubs -- and then we
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took those winners, and we got totally
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different judges, and we ended up with an
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elementary and middle school and high school
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winner.
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they will get additional money tonight.
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are recognizing those -- if you would, we have
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all of those individuals, please stand.
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have one young lady that's not with us tonight,
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but her father is here, and he will be
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accepting that on behalf of her because she is
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sick.
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with our elementary winners.
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They came from the club winners, and
We
So at this time, we're going to begin
Our first elementary person is Daulen
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Elliott.
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Jarry.
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Bunce, and her father will accept on her
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behalf.
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But we
Our next elementary person is Daelen
Our next elementary person is Ariana
In the middle school category, our first
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winner is Alicia, Alicia Hunt.
Our next middle
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school person is Destiny Wydra.
Our next
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middle school person is Dylan Hammonds.
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In our high school category, our first
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person is Elijah Hunt.
Our next person in the
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high school level is Ventina Jacobs.
Our next
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high school person is Taylor Mullin.
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So, as we said, we have three individuals
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that got to double their money, and they get an
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additional plaque with recognition.
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elementary level, we have Daelen Elliott.
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they did not know about this.
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surprises till the end.
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folks, the one writing the check, and -- it's
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important that they know that they had to come
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to get the first prize, but they didn't know
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about the second one.
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wanted to sit beside him (indicating).
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you go.
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was Dylan Hammonds.
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school level is Ventina Jacobs.
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At the
Now,
We held the top
I think there are two
That's his sister, she
There
The winner in the middle school level
Okay.
And the winner at the high
I want to thank all of the staff
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for their hard work with helping put that
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together because, as I said, it was a new
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experience for everyone.
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some of the kids,-- if you look at their books,
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they acknowledged the staff for their hard work
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and helping them put that together.
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Mark said he would like to have a group shot
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now.
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(Pause.)
Without the staff and
But Mr.
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MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
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get a picture.
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go in the Robesonian.
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because it's positive.
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Now, we want you to
This is something that needs to
This is something good
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
They need to read
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about this tomorrow.
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them, they need to get in this group.
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(Pause.)
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The ones that worked with
MS. ROSE MARIE TOWNSEND:
One more thing,
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Mr. Speaker, if we could.
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parents here tonight.
If we could have the
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parents please stand.
We want to thank you for
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all your support and all your time and your
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support that you give to the boys and girls
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club.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
There are some
Amen.
Thank you.
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Also, Ms. Townsend, for your work, along with
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the staff in recognizing these children.
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of times in the church, we make a mistake of
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saying our children are the church of tomorrow,
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and I correct that now, folks.
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are part of the church today, not tomorrow.
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Amen.
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today and not the future.
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a part of it today and in the future than I am.
A lot
Our children
So our children are part of the tribe
Amen.
They're more
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Amen.
Because I'm not as young as they are.
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They're going to be around a lot longer than
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I'm going to be around.
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
Mr. Bobby?
Thank you, Mr.
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Speaker.
I'd like to apologize for my
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tardiness, but I'm just getting back from
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Chapel Hill from a doctor's appointment.
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would like to personally put my name beside
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this.
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person on this from the council, and I'd like
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to thank the other members because some of you
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personally gave donations for the scholarships
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or the awards to the students.
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council members, for your dedication and hard
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work.
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your hard work and the boys and girls club, and
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we'd like to see you continue your work and be
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rewarded many more times.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. John -- Jarrod over there was a lead
So thank you,
Thank you, young boys and girls, for
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Bobby.
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Next on our agenda is community comments.
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Byron Brooks?
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And I
MR. BYRON BROOKS:
Mr.
Good evening, council
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members.
First, I'd just like to say thank you
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for letting me come here and speak with you
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today.
First, I'd like to pass out some
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information to you just for a moment.
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right.
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We have a very crucial and time-sensitive issue
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right now.
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constitution states that anyone can be enrolled
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into the Lumbee Tribe no matter how much Lumbee
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descent they have.
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that you show descent.
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one sixteenth or one one-hundredth, it doesn't
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matter how much.
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enrollment office.
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I don't think that's how we identify on a
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day-to-day basis, so I came up with the idea
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this past summer that why don't we do a
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constitutional amendment to change our current
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tribal enrollment requirements.
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tried to go around and get some signatures.
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Why am I here today?
All
It's very simple.
Right now, the current tribal
All that it requires is
You can be literally
I used to work in the
I saw it, it has happened.
Okay.
I had
There's two options that -- basically to
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get the tribal constitution amendment done.
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You can get enough signatures, five percent of
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the eligible voters, and it would go straight
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to the ballot box.
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forced to put it on the ballot box, or you
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could go to the council.
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two-thirds vote, and you can propose an
The election board would be
Y'all can get a
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amendment.
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proposing an amendment, and it would still go
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again, to the ballot box.
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would be forced to put it in for the people's
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vote, and the people could vote yes or no.
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simple majority by the people would decide
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whether it's adopted or not -- so y'all would
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just be doing a proposed amendment.
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we're here tonight -- we're here tonight to try
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to get this put on the agenda.
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That's all you will be doing is
The election board
A
So why
First and foremost, and if you could,
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please, just vote to add this to the agenda,
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and then we can discuss exactly what that
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tribal amendment is, first and foremost, and
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then you can ask any questions you have.
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can end up debating and changing some language
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all you want to, but y'all again would just be
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doing a proposal.
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legislative law or bill where you have to go to
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a committee and go in that committee and then
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go to the Chairman.
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proposal.
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constitutional amendment, you need two-thirds
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vote to pass that, but, first and foremost,
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please, vote to add this to the agenda tonight.
Y'all
You are not doing a
No, you're just doing a
If we're trying to do a
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Again, I'm ready to answer any questions you
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have.
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and ask me any question you have.
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work in enrollment, like I said, and I'm more
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than equipped to answer any questions you have
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-- but I would ask that somebody nominate this
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to put it before the committee tonight to be
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able to talk about it.
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
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I'm sure you will do your due diligence
I used to
I make a motion to add
it to the agenda.
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MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
Second.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We've already
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approved the agenda.
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
How long would it
take, Mr. Byron?
MR. BYRON BROOKS:
As many question as you
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have.
It could be five minutes or ten minutes,
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but the proposal's point blank and simple.
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would literally be a key addition to what we
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currently have, and in that, you would see they
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must demonstrate the descent from sourced
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documents.
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-- in 1900-1910.
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be at least one-quarter American Indian.
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want one-quarter American Indian and not
It
That's what we call our base roles
I would add in there you must
I
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one-quarter Lumbee because I don't want to hurt
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or disencourage emergence with other tribes.
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You can end up having somebody that is an
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eighth of a whole bunch of different tribes,
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and they wouldn't be eligible one day.
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keep what we have.
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what we have.
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American Indian blood requirement.
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typical standard amount.
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twenty-some tribes that do that, and then
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there's some tribes that do half the
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requirement.
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five-eighth blood requirement.
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Government requires to get any assistance to
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the people, whether it's for health care, or
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whether it's for education or something like
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that.
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be one-quarter anyway.
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system in place to determine -- we print out
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CIBs everyday in the enrollment office already.
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I would
Again, I'm not disrupting
I'm just adding the one-quarter
It's a very
There's over
There's even a tribe that does a
The Federal
For scholarships, it's required that you
We already have a
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Wait a minute.
Mr.
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Robert, I'm sort of at a loss on how to do
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this.
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MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
Speaker.
Question, Mr.
What, if you don't mind, what's the
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recommendation for the motion?
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to the agenda to discuss, or was it to --
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MR. BYRON BROOKS:
Was it to add
I first need to get it
on the agenda.
MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
-- to discuss?
Was
that the whole intent, why you're here tonight?
MR. BYRON BROOKS:
Yes.
Then y'all can
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decide if the pass is yea or nay, that's up to
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y'all.
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questions, but he's going to put me on the
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clock if I don't get it on the agenda.
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But I'd love to be able to answer more
MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
So make sure I'm
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clear, your purpose is to put it on the agenda
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for discussion?
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MR. BYRON BROOKS:
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MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
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Yes.
Is it to vote
tonight?
MR. BYRON BROOKS:
I would love for you to
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do a vote tonight because, again, I would love
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to see this sometime done in November.
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could do it with the regular election for the
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chairman and the council.
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that they can't have a separate election, and
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then that's for them to decide, but first and
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foremost, for y'all to propose this as an
If we
If they determine
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amendment.
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MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
Thank you, sir.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
I spoke with Mr.
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Byron, he called me, and I tried to understand
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the situation.
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that's on our agenda, we try to have a -- well,
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not try, but according to our rules, there's a
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five-day notice so the council can read over it
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and understand it before we vote on it.
I told him, normally, anything
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Mr. Byron, what's the
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latest this thing needs --
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MR. BYRON BROOKS:
She said she would like
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to have it passed in the September meeting, and
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she was going to try to do it in November, part
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of that election.
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trying to do the signature route, then once I
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realized it was becoming more and more
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time-sensitive, I decided to just go to y'all.
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So if nothing else, again, please just allow us
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to put this on the agenda, and we can discuss
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it.
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table it, and then we end up having an election
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in January or February for this, fine. But try
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at least to do this tonight, just try.
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I would like to see what the discussion is
That's why again I was
If you end up not passing it, you want to
I mean
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amongst y'all and whether or not you're for or
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against it, striking some language, adding some
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language -- but at least adding it to the
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agenda if nothing else, making an effort.
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There's a lot of people from the community that
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I've talked to that think it's already a
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requirement in itself.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
And Mr. -- I spoke
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with Mr. Byron also, and normally, this would
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need to come out in committee first before it's
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presented to the council.
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want to try to be as fair as I can.
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council -- we can't have an open dialogue back
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and forth, we're not supposed to with community
15
comments, Mr. Brooks, but we'll allow a few
16
comments from the council.
17
MS. JAN LOWERY:
I don't want -- I
I have some.
Any
So there's
18
a sense of urgency because of the upcoming
19
election is what you're saying?
20
MR. BYRON BROOKS:
Yes.
Because I would
21
prefer if we had as large a turnout as possible
22
when they vote for this, and everyone knows
23
there's a bigger turnout when there's a
24
chairman versus if we end up doing this next
25
year when there's nothing else going on but
22
1
maybe just a council election or something.
2
I want the will of the people to truly be
3
represented.
4
larger election like we're having in November.
5
So
It would be best to do it at a
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Well, my opinion is --
6
I'm very hesitant.
Not because I don't believe
7
what you're saying is a good change, but
8
whenever we start changing or do anything to
9
the constitution, we all have to be comfortable
10
with it, and words mean a lot,--
11
MR. BYRON BROOKS:
12
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Yes, ma'am.
-- so we have to look at
13
it word-for-word, line-for-line and digest it
14
and be comfortable with it.
15
before I'd move forward with that.
16
feel more comfortable if the committee that
17
we've designed to look at this request would be
18
a part that decision as well.
19
my opinion.
I would have to be
I would
So that's just
20
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Jarrod?
21
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
Mr. Speaker, I have
22
one other question.
23
if I can ask her.
24
election day?
25
And this is for Ms. Beck,
How many days is it until
MS. SHEILA BECK:
Election is November
23
1
17th, so what's that?
2
like that.
3
Sixty-nine?
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
Something
Because my thought is
4
we have to, you know -- just when we propose
5
amendments -- you know the tribal council has
6
to vote on the ten days.
7
board would have to post it, and within 60 days
8
after posting it, it would have to be -- there
9
would have to be an election and vote on the
10
amendment.
11
days of the election, we can still have this on
12
election day, so we can go through our whole
13
process of having it through committee, voting
14
on it next month, and it still being on the
15
calendar.
16
The tribal election
So as long as we are not within ten
MR. BYRON BROOKS:
Well, the only issue
17
that is on paper that would hurt -- in working
18
principle, but in real theory and in real life,
19
she has to have time to basically print this
20
off --
21
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
22
THE REPORTER:
23
Mr. Speaker?
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
I
need everyone to speak one at a time, please.
24
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Mr. Speaker?
25
like to call a point of order.
I'd
We need to
24
1
comment for three minutes.
2
are up.
3
extend this time in addition to that, I agree
4
that this must go before the constitutional
5
committee because this is a constitution issue,
6
and I don't think we have the right to override
7
our committee.
8
just going to have to -- you're just going to
9
have to stay there unless the Speaker gives you
10
authorization to speak on it.
11
Those three minutes
Unless we get a two-thirds vote to
So my point of order -- you're
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker,
12
the bottom line is, he's asking to have it put
13
on the agenda.
14
the agenda.
15
to put it on there or not.
16
17
It takes 14 votes to get it on
Let's just vote and see if we want
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
Is the council
comfortable with that?
18
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
Mr. Speaker?
19
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Larry?
20
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
Folks, you must
21
understand the constitution is not something
22
you just -- it's not a swinging door.
23
come and go.
24
issue of this significance needs to be
25
thoroughly vetted before the committee or
Ideas
An issue of this importance, an
25
1
before the council.
This is not the proper
2
place for this, and the urgency of this is come
3
on.
4
this to have been done, and the urgency of this
5
does not require, does not necessitate that we
6
meet on this at this point in time and put this
7
on the ballot because our people are going to
8
be totally confused, and there will be people
9
who don't understand.
10
doesn't understand, the public is not going to
11
understand either.
12
can go to.
13
mean something, and we have rules.
14
-- this is the first time, to my knowledge,
15
anything has ever come to this council in
16
community minutes -- in community comments that
17
someone has tried to push this issue or any
18
other issues -- and the urgency of this does
19
not necessitate in my mind sight that the
20
council take this up at this time.
21
a committee at best, but there's no need for a
22
vote on this.
There's been time and time and time for
And if the council
There's a process that this
Words mean something, and rules
23
MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
24
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
25
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
And to come
Send it to
I second that.
Mr. Speaker?
Mr. Homer?
26
1
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
I offer a motion that
2
we take this up at the next constitution
3
meeting.
4
MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
5
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Second.
Okay.
We have a
6
motion and a second to take this up at the next
7
meeting.
8
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
9
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
10
11
12
13
Constitution meeting.
All in favor, say
aye.
(The council voted.)
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Any no?
Okay.
Thank
you, Mr. Brooks.
14
MR. BYRON BROOKS:
Appreciate your time.
15
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Next on our agenda is
16
the community -- committee reports.
17
we've got a couple of problems that has arose
18
dealing with the budget and certain personnel.
19
In my opinion,-- I have spoken to the
20
parliamentarian, and he advised we could go
21
into closed session at this time to discuss
22
these issues and come back out and in our
23
public meeting and let it be known.
24
I could get a second.
25
MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
Second.
Council,
Okay.
If
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
All in favor of going
closed, say aye.
3
(The council voted.)
4
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Any no?
5
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
No.
6
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Thank you, council.
7
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
Mr. Speaker?
Mr. Speaker?
Point
8
of information.
9
into closed session for personnel matters.
10
This does not reach that level.
11
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
12
Larry, it will.
13
personnel.
14
15
16
17
The constitution said we go
In my opinion, Mr.
The budget does involve
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
Everything we do
involves personnel, Mr. Speaker.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We have a vote.
We're going into closed session.
18
(The council went into closed
19
session at 7:10 p.m.)
20
(The proceedings resumed at 7:23
21
p.m.)
22
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Can we get a motion
23
and a second to come out of closed session?
24
Okay.
25
committee reports.
Next on our agenda is committee is
Ms. Janie McFarland, the
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chair of finance.
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
Everyone should have
3
a copy of the ordinance for the fiscal year
4
budget, Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina, CLLO
5
2015-0917-01, dated September 17, 2015, Fiscal
6
Year October 1, 2015-September 30, 2016 Lumbee
7
Tribal Budget Ordinance.
8
Whereas, The Lumbee Tribe of North
9
Carolina, a recognized American Indian Tribe of
10
the State of North Carolina, subject to the
11
Constitution of the Lumbee Tribe of North
12
Carolina and its inherent powers of
13
self-government; and.
14
Whereas, Article VII, Section 1 of the
15
Constitution of the Lumbee Tribe of North
16
Carolina delegates all legislative authority to
17
the Tribal Council; and
18
Whereas, The Tribal Council of the Lumbee
19
Tribe of North Carolina has the authority to
20
approve, adopt, and amend the annual fiscal
21
year budget and budget process; and
22
Whereas, The Tribal Council is responsible
23
for overseeing, reviewing, and approving actual
24
expenditures and budget variances throughout
25
the fiscal year; and
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Whereas, The Tribal Council of the Lumbee
2
Tribe of North Carolina reserves the right to
3
amend the budget as deemed appropriate to
4
maintain a balanced budget (see
5
below/attachment), and the budget is attached.
6
Therefore, it is -- Be it enacted by the
7
Tribal Council of the Lumbee Tribe of North
8
Carolina the following ordinance shall be
9
adopted and cited as "Fiscal Year October 1,
10
2015-September 30, 2016 Lumbee Tribal Budget
11
Ordinance.
12
And the budget is attached to the
13
ordinance along with -- the term is the
14
proposed operating current year 2015-2016.
15
first two sheets is NAHASDA, and the last two
16
sheets is the things that fall with the tribal
17
council, the Lumbee Tribe services.
18
any questions on the budget?
19
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
committee, it doesn't need a second.
21
Davenport?
MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
Is there
And coming from the
20
22
The
Mr.
Are we open for a few
23
questions, comments?
For clarity purposes, I
24
see 8202 to 8214 is your upkeep of districts?
25
Two, three, four, six, seven, eight, nine,
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eleven, fourteen.
2
was informed that this was going to be taken
3
out?
4
That being said, I think I
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
No.
The money
5
should've been in the whole budget.
6
you're asking --
So what
7
MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
Is it still there?
8
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
Yes.
9
MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
Thank you.
10
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
And I would like to
11
thank Ms. Janie and her committee for their --
12
and the other council members that were
13
involved in the budget.
14
the little discussions Ms. Janie had in getting
15
-- so I would like to thank her for working on
16
the budget, and, like I said, the council
17
members not on the committee for being there
18
also.
In several meetings,
Anything further?
19
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
20
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
21
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker?
Ms. Anita?
I would like
22
to offer that we take from item line number
23
8031, maintenance development, and that we give
24
the executive branch the authority to get
25
insurance for the employees and get them a
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1
better package than the current one they have.
2
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
3
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
What's the number?
4
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
8031.
5
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
Restate your
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
I would like
6
7
motion, Ms. Anita.
8
to offer an amendment to this budget that the
9
funds be taken from line item 8031, maintenance
10
development, and added to the insurance line
11
item, which would be -- was that under fringe?
12
Put that under fringe that they find a better
13
insurance package for the employees.
14
15
16
17
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
Do we have a
second?
MR. TONY HUNT:
Mr. Speaker, we can go
ahead and --
18
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
19
MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
I second that.
20
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
21
22
Excuse me.
We have a
motion and a second to amend line item 8031.
MR. TONY HUNT:
Before you vote on that,
23
I'd just like to say we appreciate the
24
suggestion, Ms. Blanks, but we would rather --
25
if we needed to take any money from any other
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1
line item in doing the insurance, we would
2
rather take that from 8030 because that's where
3
we put a lot of the money from that we carry
4
over and things like that.
5
take it from that than take it from line item
6
8031.
7
We would rather
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker,
8
my logic there is the line item that they use
9
to do a new road, which on these roads, they
10
told us that they could put 15 houses.
11
since we have proved that last year -- unless
12
they put 15 houses in there, this is overkill.
13
MR. TONY HUNT:
And
Mr. Speaker, I'd like to
14
let Mr. Bosco, our director of our housing,
15
speak to that issue if you wouldn't mind.
16
17
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
For
clarification, Mr. Bosco Locklear.
18
MR. BOSCO LOCKLEAR:
That money that's put
19
there is not in the road.
20
current budget that you amended.
The new road
21
is not in that proposed budget.
That $400,000
22
there is used for keeping up all these
23
developments, cutting grass.
24
the home repairs when we repossess.
25
though we show repossession as asset
The road is in the
It does most of
Even
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1
management, that is not nearly enough.
I think
2
there might be $75,000 in asset management for
3
repossession.
4
running you run -- repossessed ones running you
5
15, $18,000 refurbished.
6
repossession money that's spent when we take
7
homes back, it comes out of money that's in
8
development.
9
current budget.
10
proposed budget.
Well, normally, those houses
So most of the
But the new street, it's in the
There's not a street in the
11
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
12
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
13
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker?
Okay.
Unless I'm
14
misunderstood, basically what you're saying is
15
this is a line item that's being used pretty
16
much anywhere.
17
MR. BOSCO LOCKLEAR:
No.
It's used for --
18
it's used for street cleaning, maintenance, and
19
development.
20
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
21
MR. BOSCO LOCKLEAR:
Okay.
It's used nothing but
22
for nothing but bricks and mortar and to -- I
23
mean, we have in all the developments -- I
24
mean, we're cutting probably 70 acres of grass.
25
I mean, we spend an enormous amount of money on
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cutting grass in the developments.
Our
2
maintenance guys don't have anything to do with
3
cutting grass in the developments except their
4
own.
5
those guys don't have anything to do with any
6
of that money that's in upkeep and cutting
7
grass and budgets -- like Arrowpoint, Cheraw
8
Acres, Autumn Chase, and I'll give you another
9
good example.
10
had to spend -- right back here (indicating)
11
where we had a washout at Arrowpoint, we had to
12
spend $15,000 to correct it.
13
going to do it this way, or we're gonna fine
14
you $50,000, and you got 30 days to do it.
15
-- and right now, they've came in at Cheraw
16
Acres.
17
because they came in, and they don't like the
18
way that the slant is on the ditch even though
19
they approved it when it was put in.
20
they're saying that too much is washed out, and
21
our slant's off, so we got to go back in there
22
and revamp the ditches up there.
23
look at the -- I'm not sure what the financial
24
cost balance is, but the majority of that money
25
pretty well be spent, that $400,000.
When I say home ownership developments,
Probably three months ago, we
They said you're
So
Right now, we're putting out for bids
Now
We -- if you
Last
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1
year, I think we probably spent out of the
2
$400,000 line ite,m, we probably spent maybe
3
$370,000, so there was like $30,000 left.
4
mean, if you want to talk about ten or $15,000
5
-- if you're talking about putting insurance
6
back out -- putting RFP back out for NAHASDA
7
insurance -- I mean it's going to go up.
8
going to go up.
9
at last year, and you know how it was put in
10
there -- and I totally agree with you, and I
11
sincerely thank you.
12
big hug because our insurance we have right now
13
stinks, so I'm with you.
So I
It's
I mean, you know where it was
We'd love to give you a
14
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
15
you're saying that is not for a road?
16
MR. BOSCO LOCKLEAR:
17
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Okay.
So
No.
Okay, okay.
18
But that was the line item where it was before,
19
wasn't it?
20
MR. BOSCO LOCKLEAR:
21
before, and one of them was.
22
There was two of them
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Okay, okay.
23
In that case, I stand corrected, and I agree
24
then to go to line 8030 under home ownership
25
which is $2.3 million and take funds from there
36
1
and see if we can't get them, not back where
2
they were originally, but a better plan than
3
what they've got.
4
MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
5
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Second.
Okay.
Ms. Anita has
6
changed -- the only thing she changed is the
7
line item.
Can we have a second to that?
8
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
9
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Any other discussion
10
on that?
11
call vote on that, please.
12
MS. JAN LOWERY:
13
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
14
item.
15
again?
Okay.
Second.
I ask Ms. Jan to do a roll
On the budget?
No.
Just on that one
Ms. Anita, will you state your motion
16
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
17
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
I'm sorry?
Will you state your
18
motion that we're going to vote on?
19
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
I make a
20
motion to amend this budget to use line item
21
8030 construction/purchase of homes for -- to
22
allow the executive branch to take funds from
23
that line item to get a better insurance
24
package for the employees.
25
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
We'll do a
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1
roll call vote.
2
MS. JAN LOWERY:
3
MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
4
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Terry Hunt?
5
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Yes.
6
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Janie Oxendine McFarland?
7
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
8
MS. JAN LOWERY:
9
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
10
MS. JAN LOWERY:
11
Evan Davenport?
Yes.
Yes.
Lesaundri Hunt?
Yes.
Alton Locklear, absent.
Jonathan Locklear?
12
MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
13
MS. JAN LOWERY:
14
MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
15
MS. JAN LOWERY:
16
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
17
MS. JAN LOWERY:
18
Bobby Oxendine?
Yes.
Jarrod Lowery?
Yes.
Doug's not here.
MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
20
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Yes.
Jan Lowery, yes.
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
23
MS. JAN LOWERY:
25
Bill
Brewington?
22
24
Robert
Chavis?
19
21
Yes.
Yes.
Is Daniel here?
Anita Hammonds Blanks?
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Yes.
No?
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
2
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
3
MS. JAN LOWERY:
4
MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
5
MS. JAN LOWERY:
6
Terry Collins?
Areatha Patterson?
Homer
Fields?
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
8
MS. JAN LOWERY:
you.
Yes.
Areatha, we're back to
You said pass.
10
MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
11
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
12
carries.
13
is the budget.
14
Roll call vote, please.
15
MS. JAN LOWERY:
16
Pass.
He's not here.
7
9
Yes.
Yes.
And the motion
We're back to the main motion which
Are we ready to vote?
Okay.
This is for the budget of
fiscal year 2015-2016.
Evan Davenport?
17
MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
No.
18
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Terry Hunt?
19
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Yes.
20
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Janie Oxendine McFarland?
21
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
22
MS. JAN LOWERY:
23
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
24
MS. JAN LOWERY:
25
MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
Yes.
Lesaundri Hunt?
Yes.
Jonathan Locklear?
Yes.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
2
MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
3
MS. JAN LOWERY:
4
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
5
MS. JAN LOWERY:
6
MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
7
MS. JAN LOWERY:
8
Bobby Oxendine?
Yes.
Jarrod Lowery?
Yes.
Robert Chavis?
Yes.
Jan Lowery, yes.
Brewington?
9
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
10
MS. JAN LOWERY:
11
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
12
MS. JAN LOWERY:
13
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
14
MS. JAN LOWERY:
15
MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
16
MS. JAN LOWERY:
17
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
18
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
19
Bill
No.
Anita Hammonds Blanks?
Yes.
Terry Collins?
Yes.
Areatha Patterson?
Yes.
Homer Fields?
Yes.
Okay.
Did the motion
carry?
20
MS. JAN LOWERY:
(Nonverbal.)
21
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
22
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
Attached also is
Ms. Janie?
23
Continuing Resolution -- this did not come out
24
of the committee.
25
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
The continuing
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1
resolution was a request by the administrator,
2
and we discussed it coming out of committee or
3
not coming out of committee, which I mentioned
4
at the committee -- and his observation is
5
trying to save time.
6
would not take in effect until October 1, which
7
it will -- if the clerk tomorrow posts -- get
8
it signed and posts it, it will take 30 days
9
before the budget would come into action or
10
law.
11
19 days in there, so the request was as to --
12
so we could continue to operate in that space
13
-- say to the max 19 days.
14
the administrator since then.
15
and he understands, that it would be on a time
16
frame.
17
resolution.
It would have to be put in this
18
resolution.
That is if that is the desires of
19
the council.
If you notice the budget
So we're going to have an elapse of 18 to
I have spoken to
If it's passed,
That time frame is not listed in this
20
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Mr. Speaker?
21
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Bill?
22
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
So it didn't come
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24
25
from the committee?
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
It would need someone
to speak to it and someone to second it.
Okay.
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
2
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
3
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker?
Ms. Anita?
I make a
4
motion that we send the continuing resolution
5
back to the constitution committee and that we
6
schedule a meeting for Tuesday night.
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MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
Second.
8
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We have a motion.
9
Who seconds?
10
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Mr. Davenport.
11
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
We have a
12
motion to send it to committee Tuesday night
13
and work on it from there.
14
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
15
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
16
discussion.
17
and a second.
Any discussion?
Okay.
Any discussion?
It's open for
We have a motion
18
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
19
the administration have time?
20
this back some wayoranother that we won't be
21
operating without a budget or without a
22
continuing budget, I mean?
23
do all this and keep them operating in a proper
24
way is my question?
25
If we do that, would
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Could we get
Do we have time to
I would think so for
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that time period.
2
Homer is questioning -- restate your question,
3
Mr. Homer.
4
Mister Administrator?
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
Mr.
We're offering a motion
5
to take this to committee Tuesday night.
Our
6
budget ends last day of September, first day of
7
October, one day or the other.
8
1, the new one begins.
9
take this back,-- we got a budget here.
10
take this back to committee, can we get
11
something out of this and get it back to where
12
our tribe can continue to operate with
13
something until we get this budget approved for
14
the 30 days to post and all that stuff?
15
we need to know is whether we can operate
16
normally while we're doing this.
17
ones that weren't on the budget -- we want this
18
time to run out -- to decide that we're going
19
to vote on it.
20
make sure that they continue to operate
21
normally.
Anyway, October
My question is if we
If we
What
You know, the
I mean, my main concern is to
You see what I'm saying?
22
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
23
Administration [sic],--
Yes.
24
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
25
MR. TONY HUNT:
Mister
Mr. Speaker?
I think Ms. Anita's going
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2
to answer this.
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
If we have our
3
meeting on the 22nd which is next Tuesday, you
4
can then call a special meeting -- say, on the
5
29th for the council to vote on the continuing
6
resolution, and that will be fine within rules.
7
MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
8
your question, we have time.
9
your question?
10
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
11
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
So then to answer
Does that answer
Yes.
We could have a
12
meeting and have time to get something done to
13
where they can continue to operate.
14
other questions?
15
call vote, please.
Okay.
Are we ready to vote?
Any
Roll
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Evan Davenport?
17
MR. EVAN DAVENPORT:
18
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Terry Hunt?
19
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Yes.
20
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Janie McFarland Oxendine
Yes.
21
-- Janie Oxendine McFarland?
22
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
23
MS. JAN LOWERY:
24
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
25
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Yes.
Sorry.
Did you say yes?
Yes.
Lesaundri Hunt?
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
2
MS. JAN LOWERY:
3
MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
4
MS. JAN LOWERY:
5
MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
6
MS. JAN LOWERY:
7
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
8
MS. JAN LOWERY:
9
MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
10
MS. JAN LOWERY:
11
Yes.
Jonathan Locklear?
Yes.
Bobby Oxendine?
Yes.
Jarrod Lowery?
Yes.
Robert Chavis?
Yes.
Jan Lowery, yes.
Brewington?
12
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
13
MS. JAN LOWERY:
14
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
15
MS. JAN LOWERY:
16
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
17
MS. JAN LOWERY:
18
MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
19
MS. JAN LOWERY:
20
here.
William, not.
Yes.
Areatha Patterson?
Yes.
Shelley Strickland, not
Homer Fields?
22
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
25
Yes.
Terry Collins?
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
24
Yes.
Anita Hammonds Blanks?
21
23
Bill
Yes.
Mr. Speaker, can I
ask a question?
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
The motion carried.
Just a moment.
Mr.--
Okay.
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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
My question to --
2
Mr. Speaker, how long can the tribe operate on
3
a continuing resolution?
4
MR. TONY HUNT:
Well, you know, if the
5
continuing resolution -- I mean as long as it's
6
in effect until the budget's passed.
7
we can work on that.
8
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
I mean,
So my question is,
9
if the Chairman doesn't sign the budget that's
10
proposed by the council, then you just continue
11
on and on the resolution?
12
MR. TONY HUNT:
13
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
14
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Yes, sir.
I got a question now.
Unless there's a date
15
put on it -- we spoke about the time frame.
16
There's enough days just until the budget comes
17
in effect.
18
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
Right.
We can put a
19
specific date on the continuing resolution that
20
will end at this point?
21
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
22
MR. TONY HUNT:
Yes.
Yeah.
Why don't we just put a
23
wording in there to say that it's going to be
24
in effect until the budget takes place?
25
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Well, we voted to
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take it back to committee, and I think this is
2
-- if you would, it would be corrected in the
3
constitution -- at the ordinance meeting on
4
Tuesday night.
5
6
Okay.
Okay.
Next on our agenda is the tribal
administrator report.
7
MR. TONY HUNT:
Mr. Speaker, I'm going to
8
try to speak loud.
Some of us are having some
9
trouble with some mics all of a sudden.
10
couple of quick things just for your
11
information.
12
the 16th for anyone seeking to get a new
13
enrollment card.
They need to come in before
14
October the 16th.
The polls will continue to
15
be open for those folks that are updating a
16
card.
17
their cards.
18
folks coming in after the 16th to update their
19
cards, and they'll still be able to do that.
20
The Prospect Community Building -- we're
21
hoping to be finished with it by the first of
22
October -- maybe the second week of October,
23
and we are planning an open house, and we'll be
24
getting you something just as soon as we see
25
how the progress is going to be out there with
Just a
Enrollment will close on October
They can continue to come in and update
So enrollment will be open for
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the parking lot and everything, and we'll be
2
getting you an invitation for that event that
3
will take place.
4
Pembroke Senior Village -- they had their
5
walk-through with the last nine buildings
6
today.
7
minor landscaping that has to be done, and I
8
think one door needed to be replaced, so we'll
9
be totally, completely finished with Pembroke
10
Senior Village, and we continue to move
11
residents in out at Pembroke Senior Village.
12
The last thing that I would like to talk
13
to you about is the LIHEAP application that's
14
on the table -- and I'm going to pass this
15
sheet around, and it gives you pacific [sic]
16
dates for the different groups to come for
17
that.
18
fuel, it's October 5-23.
19
veteran or 65 years of age or older, October
20
26-30.
21
assistance or falling five years of age or
22
younger, it's November 2-13.
23
closed on November 11th during that time
24
because it's Veterans Day.
25
who may be eligible for assistance can come in
There was no major problems, just some
We have applications for the winter
If an applicant's a
Applicants receiving disability
The site will be
But any applicant
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during November 2-13.
2
for you so you can take it with you, and that
3
way if some of your constituents call, you can
4
give them the right dates for you -- their age
5
or disabilities or whatever they need.
6
have any other questions or comments about
7
that, you can call me or Mr. Patrick Strickland
8
and/or Tammy Maynor.
9
those questions for you.
10
Speaker, that's all I have.
11
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
12
13
I have a little sheet
If you
We can probably answer
Other than that, Mr.
Okay.
Thank you, Mr.
Tony.
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
Question.
Mr. Hunt,
14
you say from October 16 for -- people can get
15
their cards renewed?
16
MR. TONY HUNT:
From October the 16th
17
forward, they can continue to update their
18
cards.
19
Once the board of elections asks for the
20
printout from enrollment, we'll do that
21
printout.
22
normally what happens when they go to a polling
23
site, they're going to end up voting on a
24
provisional ballot is what will happen.
25
will continue to update the whole time, yes,
Here's what will happen, Mr. Larry.
If anyone updates after that date --
We
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sir.
And we'll wait on Ms. Sheila to ask for
2
them, and when she asks for the roll after the
3
16th, I will produce that for her -- but we
4
will continue to do updates.
5
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
Thank you.
6
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
I have up here
7
the three different open houses.
Did everyone
8
get that information?
9
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
10
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
No.
Okay.
The first one
11
-- and these may not be in an order.
12
house, September 18th, which is tomorrow, 4-6,
13
173 Adams Trail, Red Springs, North Carolina.
14
This is a new home, three bedroom, two bath,
15
1,217 square feet.
16
19th.
17
Leaf Lane in Lumberton, North Carolina.
18
is in Autumn Chase subdivision just east of
19
Lumberton off highway -- off 7th Street -- road
20
rather.
21
also.
22
67 Pine Cone Court, Pembroke, North Carolina,
23
and this is located in Arrowpoint Acres.
24
25
Open
The next one's September
It's an open house on 42 North Falling
This
The next one is September the 19th
Of course, that is Saturday from 10-12,
MR. TONY HUNT:
Mr. Speaker, I think that
first one you read is in Cheraw Acres, I think.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
3
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker,
4
can I ask a question?
5
that people have already purchased, or what's
6
the status of these?
7
MR. TONY HUNT:
8
people for these houses.
9
Now are these houses
Yes.
We already have
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
I mean, are
10
these purchased homes for these people?
11
Somebody's buying them?
12
MR. TONY HUNT:
13
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Yeah.
14
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
If anyone
Yes.
They're buying them.
Okay.
Okay.
15
needs these dates, they'll be right here for a
16
few moments.
17
and check your mail, they're in your mailboxes.
18
Next on the agenda is our calendar review.
They're in the boxes.
Just go by
19
Ms. Anita is already set next Tuesday, the
20
22nd.
21
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Mr. Speaker?
Ms.
22
Anita, would you consider moving that to the
23
24th?
24
night rather.
We can have the council meeting
25
on the 29th.
Do it on the 24th.
I'll be out of town on the -- Wednesday
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
2
Okay.
Yeah.
3
committee doesn't.
On the 24th?
I don't mind if the rest of the
4
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
5
constitution on the 24th.
6
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
7
MS. JAN LOWERY:
8
health committee meeting.
9
who wants to schedule a meeting in conjunction
10
with mine?
11
doesn't matter.
Thank you.
I need to schedule a
Is there anyone else
Either September or October, it
Probably September.
12
MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
13
little louder, Ms. Jan.
14
So Ms. Anita's
We need you to speak a
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
We might need
15
to get our September stuff.
So what we're
16
saying is we're going to have the constitution
17
meeting on the 24th at 6:30, correct?
18
everybody with me?
19
going to call a special meeting for the 29th;
20
is that correct?
And then Mr. Speaker's
It's got to be.
21
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
22
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
23
Is
Yes.
And that's at
6:30?
24
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Six-thirty also.
25
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Okay.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
So on October 6th --
2
Jarrod, what's your number?
3
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
4
MS. JAN LOWERY:
I can do 6:30.
You want to do federal
5
recognition?
6
a research study, so I've got to meet just to
7
give a small, short presentation.
8
to do it after your constitution?
9
10
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
MS. JAN LOWERY:
14
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
15
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Okay.
For what?
For your meeting.
What about the 5th?
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
I'll
Mr. Jarrod, she has
chosen the 5th of October for her meeting.
19
MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
20
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
21
MS. JAN LOWERY:
do a research project.
23
what he wants to do.
24
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
5th?
Six-thirty too?
Yeah.
Dr. Ronnie Bell wants to
22
25
What's the
take the 5th.
17
18
You mean next
date, Ms. Jan?
13
16
So you want
Thursday?
11
12
I've got a group that wants to do
I need you guys to hear
You said 6:30 on the
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2
3
MR. TERRY HUNT:
economic development meeting for the 5th.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
4
meeting?
5
6:30.
6
7
I'd also like to add an
The health will be on that night at
Economic development following health.
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
MS. JAN LOWERY:
9
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
11
12
13
I'd like to add a
housing meeting on the same night.
8
10
Following the health
6th to the 5th?
Which night?
Y'all moved from the
That will be fine.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
Housing on the 5th.
Is there anyone else?
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
I'll take the 13th at
14
6:30.
15
regular scheduled meeting.
16
MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
17
I know that's only two days before the
You said October 13th
at 6:30?
18
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
19
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Yes, sir.
At 6:30.
I'd like to change mine
20
to the 13th also to give me a little more time
21
to open it up.
22
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
23
MR. TERRY HUNT:
24
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
25
When?
The 13th.
We can't have one on
the 13th because that's seven days before our
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2
council.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Our rules say if at
3
all possible refrain from having meetings that
4
close to council.
5
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
Federal recognition
6
I'd like to do on the 5th as well.
7
a quick update.
8
MS. JAN LOWERY:
It will be
So we have health,
9
economic development, housing, and federal
10
recognition.
11
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Everything is on the
12
5th except constitution and ordinance.
13
Mr. Tony, we're going to need some nabs, some
14
tobacco nabs.
15
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
16
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
17
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
18
don't know.
19
did we not?
Okay.
Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Homer?
I've got this -- I
We've passed the budget tonight,
20
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
21
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
Yes.
We said that we can't
22
start it on October 1st?
23
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
24
have to be posted for 30 days.
25
ordinance on the 29th, does it not have to be
No.
It's going to
Now if we do an
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posted for 30 days also?
2
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
3
resolution, it's not an ordinance.
4
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
Okay.
No.
That's a
I just wanted to
5
make sure that we're covered, and these people
6
can get paid and have their insurance.
7
want them missing out.
8
9
10
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
I don't
Mr. Larry had
a question.
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
Have the panels been
11
put together for the hearing in here, for the
12
acoustics?
13
MR. TONY HUNT:
I'm not sure, Mr. Larry,
14
but it shouldn't be much longer before we are
15
able to lower them.
16
working on it, so it shouldn't be much longer.
17
I know they've been
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
18
available already?
19
MR. TONY HUNT:
There's not panels
I couldn't answer that.
I
20
would have to let Mr. Bosco, but I think he
21
stepped out.
22
new construction -- but I can find out for you
23
and get a message to you.
24
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
25
Mr. Hunt?
They're handling that over in the
Anything further for
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Yeah.
Council's been
2
asking for a list of the 32 mobile home
3
replacements, the list of the actual people
4
that's been getting the replacements.
5
y'all get us that?
6
MR. TONY HUNT:
7
8
Can
I thought Mr. Bosco
addressed that in the housing meeting?
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Yeah.
He said no.
9
don't see where the problem's at, but the
10
council just wants to know -- make sure that
11
all districts are being treated the same.
12
MR. TONY HUNT:
13
geographically anyways.
14
application, so it's not geographic.
15
them up and put one in every district.
16
didn't come that way on the list.
17
came out by date of application.
We
Well, it's not done
18
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
19
list -- a updated list?
20
MR. TONY HUNT:
It's done by date of
We divide
It
The list
So you'll come with a
And now, they're doing
21
compliance with the list you've got there.
22
Now, if somebody goes to compliance and they
23
don't -- maybe they've got some other type of
24
dwelling or something, and they may come off
25
that list, but that would go to the very next
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1
person on that list.
2
list that you got.
3
MR. TERRY HUNT:
4
know who the 32 are?
5
MR. TONY HUNT:
6
7
But it's coming from the
Okay.
I think the last I heard
was that they had about 20 or 21 of them done.
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Okay.
8
5th they'll have -- okay.
9
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
10
11
12
Okay.
MR. HOMER FIELDS:
adjourn.
14
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
If nothing
Offer a motion to
MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:
16
Maybe by the
else, we'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
13
15
So when would you
Second.
Meeting's adjourned.
(End of proceedings.)
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