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LUMBEE TRIBE OF NORTH CAROLINA

6984 NC HIGHWAY 711 WEST

PEMBROKE, NORTH CAROLINA 28372

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FEBRUARY 2016 TRIBAL COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING

CHAIRMAN HARVEY GODWIN, JR.

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TRIBAL COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES

LAKISHIA SWEAT

TERRY HUNT

JANIE OXENDINE MCFARLAND

LESAUNDRI HUNT

ALTON LOCKLEAR

JONATHAN LOCKLEAR

BOBBY OXENDINE

JARROD LOWERY

LARRY TOWNSEND

DOUGLAS LOCKLEAR

REGINALD OXENDINE

JAN LOWERY

BILL BREWINGTON

ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS

JANET LOCKLEAR

FRANK COOPER

AREATHA PATTERSON

SHELLEY STRICKLAND

WILLIAM MAIDEN

BARBARA LOWERY

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TRIBAL COUNCIL MEMBERS

LAKISHIA SWEAT

TERRY HUNT

JANIE OXENDINE MCFARLAND

ALTON LOCKLEAR

JONATHAN LOCKLEAR

JARROD LOWERY

LARRY TOWNSEND

REGINALD OXENDINE

JAN LOWERY

BILL BREWINGTON

ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS

JANET LOCKLEAR

FRANK COOPER

AREATHA PATTERSON

SHELLEY STRICKLAND

WILLIAM MAIDEN

BARBARA LOWERY

ALSO PRESENT

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Chairman Harvey Godwin, Jr.

Dock Locklear

Ron Oxendine

Sharon Blue

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PROCEEDINGS

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(The following proceedings took place on Thursday, February 16,

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2016 at 6:30 p.m.)

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

We'd like to welcome you

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here tonight.

I'd like for Dr. Reginald Oxendine -- if

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you'll, please, stand and lead us in prayer.

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(A prayer was given by Mr. Reginald

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Oxendine.)

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

We ask Mr. Larry Townsend --

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please, remain standing, to lead us in the Pledge of

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Allegiance.

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(The Pledge of Allegiance was rendered.)

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

We ask Ms. Sweat to lead us

in our tribal preamble.

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(The preamble to the tribal constitution was

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read.)

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

seated.

Thank you.

You may be

Madam Secretary, roll call.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

LaKishia Sweat?

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MS. LAKISIHA SWEAT:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Terry Hunt?

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MR. TERRY HUNT:

Here.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Janie Oxendine McFarland?

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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

Here.

Here.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. JARROD LOWERY:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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Lesaundri Hunt?

Here.

Jonathan Locklear?

Larry Townsend?

Here.

Douglas Locklear?

Reginald

Oxendine?

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Here.

Jan Lowery, here.

Bill

Brewington?

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Here.

Daniel Jones?

Anita Hammonds

Blanks?

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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MS. JANET LOCKLEAR:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. FRANK COOPER:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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Jarrod Lowery?

Here.

MR. REGINALD OXENDINE:

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Here.

Bobby Oxendine?

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Alton Locklear?

Here.

Janet Locklear?

Here.

Frank Cooper?

Here.

Areatha Patterson?

Shelley

Strickland?

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MR. SHELLEY STRICKLAND:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Present.

William Maiden?

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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

We have a quorum.

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MR. TERRY HUNT:

Mr. Speaker, Lesaundri Hunt

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called me right before we started.

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here tonight because he had eye surgery.

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relay that to y'all.

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Barbara Lowery?

Here.

Do you move that we excuse

MR. TERRY HUNT:

And also Daniel Jones and

Yes.

Areatha.

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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MR. JARROD LOWERY:

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from Mr. Bobby Oxendine.

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Something came up.

Okay.

Mr. Speaker, also got a call

He's currently out of town.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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He wanted me to

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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He's not going to be

him?

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Here.

council.

Motion on the floor -Second.

-- that we excuse absent

All in favor, let it be known by saying aye.

(The council voted.)

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Any oppose?

Thank you.

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We'd like to welcome the audience today.

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they're welcome.

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in cases like we had tonight -- but I think we got a couple

The council knows

They got an obligation to be here except

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previous council members with us tonight, so we're glad to

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have you with us, Ms. Pearlene, Ms. Louise.

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others?

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hopefully he will be with us.

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chairman back there in the corner?

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not baptist, although he must be baptist.

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we're glad to have you with us.

Mr. Kernis?

Okay.

Mr. Kernis.

Do we have any

Our chairman --

He's back there.

Okay.

Is the

I see him.

He's

We'd like to say

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We want to welcome our tribal members.

Your

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presence here tonight tells us you're concerned,

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and I don't think you would be here tonight

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because of personal reasons.

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tonight concerned about the tribal business of our

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Lumbee people, so we're glad to have you with us.

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At this time, we'll look at our agenda.

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everyone would, take your agenda for tonight, and

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go down below committee reports.

I hope you're here

If

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I have one more item to add there.

It's

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comments from Mr. Ron Oxendine, the CEO of our

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Lumbee Tribe Enterprise.

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president of LTE asked me to put that out on the

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agenda tonight, and Mr. Chairman, Mr. President,

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and Mr. Ron, I would ask that you -- and I did it

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tonight because we need to talk about it, but from

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now on, see if we can't work through the program

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to committee -- we do have an economic development

Mr. Chairman and the

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committee and make them aware of your presence

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here, so then it's just a matter of going to them

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and them coming to me to put it on the agenda, so

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I would ask that you -- and I'm not saying you

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overstepped because you did request it, but I ask

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that you go through the appropriate committee to

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make a presentation, and especially if that

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presentation later on requires some action, and no

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action will be taken tonight, but something will

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be said tonight that will have to go to a

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committee for action, so we ask that you, please,

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take that into consideration.

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reports, we will allow Mr. Ron to make some

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comments.

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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

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MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:

Okay.

After committee

Do I hear a motion?

So moved.

Second.

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(Ms. Areatha Patterson arrived to the council

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meeting.)

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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agenda as presented, please, say aye.

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Okay.

All in favor of the

(The council voted.)

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Any oppose?

Okay.

If you

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would -- I hope you've had time to review tribal council

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minutes -- and on this, I talked with Ms. Belinda, and I'm

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asking her to provide this package to you that request it.

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I get it on my computer, and I pull up the pages I need,

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and I make my notes on mine, and you probably couldn't read

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them, but if you request from her that you want a package

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tonight at the meeting, she will provide it, but otherwise,

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we will allow you to just pull it up on your computer.

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the past, every night I come up here, I'd already have my

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stuff out, and if this one falls in there, I'd get

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confused, so please work with Ms. Belinda on that.

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you.

In

Thank

She will provide it if you request it.

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What's the wishes of -- any comment or

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changes or corrections on our minutes?

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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

Make a motion we approve.

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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

Second.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

I don't know who made that.

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Mr. Townsend made that second, I think.

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that, say aye.

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All in favor of

(The council voted.)

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Any oppose?

Thank you.

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Motion carries.

Our next item is community comments.

We

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got two comments, and we'd like for those folks when you

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come to the mic, remember that you're presenting your

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concern to the tribal council, and that you have three

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minutes, and also, for you to state your topic of what you

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will discuss and what district you represent.

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time, we call Mr. Lynn Jacobs.

So at this

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MR. LYNN JACOBS:

Honorable council, Chief,

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members of the Lumbee Tribe that are present.

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for this time.

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getting calls for the last month.

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It won't take but a minute.

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Thank you

I've been

Your topic and district,

please.

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MR. LYNN JACOBS:

It is -- my district is District

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2, and my topic is the supreme leaders -- supreme court

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decision.

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going to be taken.

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anything.

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and they just feel left out.

That was it.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Thank you.

The people are wondering when some action's

That was it.

They haven't heard

The ethics committee hadn't had a meeting yet,

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that will be moved to the ethics committee.

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Jacobs?

Ms. Peggy

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MS. PEGGY JACOBS:

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District 13, doing the right thing.

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saying, she's still here, and I am, and my goal is still

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the same.

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people on this council.

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U-turn, get off the wrong road, and get on the right road.

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We got a good start here with the new chairman.

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to take us far if we work with him, and I encourage every

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one of you to do your best and work with him.

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Good evening.

Like I said,

We need to work together.

Peggy Jacobs,

I know some of you are

There's some good

What you need to do is make a

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Thank you.

He's going

Thank you.

We appreciate

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those comments.

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presentation, and I turn the floor over to Councilman

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Jarrod Lowery.

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At this time, we have a special

MR. JARROD LOWERY:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I

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would like to call up to the podium here a young lady that

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has a presentation for us.

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the podium?

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undivided attention.

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Would you, please, come up to

I would like for everyone to give us her

Thank you.

MS. JADA BROOKS:

Good evening.

This presentation

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is regarding sort of a progress report or update about the

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project that we presented to you last year, the Intertribal

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Talking Circle for the Prevention of Substance Abuse in

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Native Youth.

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jog your memory for those of you who may not recall the

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project.

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National Institute on Drug Abuse and the National Institute

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on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.

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and it began in 2013.

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community-based, participatory-based research methodology,

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and the sites involved include Oklahoma, North Carolina,

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and Minnesota, and the tribes involved include the Choctaw,

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Lumbee, and Ojibwe or Chippewa.

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I just wanted to give you a brief summary to

The project is funded by NIH, specifically, the

It's a five-year study,

It's a multi-site study using a

The primary investigators are John Lowe,

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Cherokee.

He's a distinguished professor at

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Florida Atlantic University, and Julie Baldwin.

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She's also Cherokee, and she's a professor, and

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she's now at Arizona State University.

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to be in Florida as well.

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co-investigators include myself and two others,

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Ms. Michelle Johnson James, who's Choctaw.

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in Minnesota, and Gary Lawrence, who's also

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Choctaw, and he's in Oklahoma.

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project staff at all of the three sites, but we

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wouldn't be able to conduct our project without

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them.

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well, Amy is our -- we have a facilitator, two

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facilitators, actually, who conduct the project,

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and I'll talk a little more about them in a

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minute.

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She used

She just moved.

The

She's

We have some

We wanted to -- I have a couple of our --

So I just wanted to give you an update about

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the activities that we've completed so far.

The

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first year, we developed a community partnership

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committee.

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time, and they have assisted us with the community

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needs assessment and tailoring of the intervention

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manual, and the committee members are Bruce

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Barton, Tammy Davenport, Linda Emmanuel, Connie

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Locklear, Jason Locklear, and (inaudible.), and we

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have a couple of those here with us tonight.

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really appreciate their involvement in this

I think we discussed this the last

We

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project.

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culturally-appropriate study without their input,

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so we wanted to recognize them.

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We would not be able to have a

We have also partnered with the Public

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Schools of Robeson County.

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are working with.

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intervention, and the other school is the standard

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education intervention, and we have one of the

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facilitators here tonight with the Fairgrove

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School, who is a standard education site, and

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that's Amy Hunt.

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program, and she's at that school, and she does a

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fantastic job.

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We have two schools we

One school received the actual

She actually leads the AWARE

We have been successfully recruiting and

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implementing this project since this past fall.

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We had over 15 students, I think, at each site in

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the fall, and we're around 10-12 now for spring

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session.

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week, and we plan to finish up that some time late

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spring,-- and we're really thrilled to be involved

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in this project.

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are to have our tribal youth involved in this

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opportunity.

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believe that we're going to be able to impact

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their lives in a positive way.

We're just beginning that session this

We hope you're as thrilled as we

It's a great opportunity, and we

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We also submitted and were accepted to

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present at the Southeastern Indian Studies

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Conference in April., so I don't know if many of

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you are familiar with that, but it's typically

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held here in the county, and we will be having our

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principal investigators and some of the other

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project survey panel at the conference in April.

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Do you have anything to add?

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DR. DEESE:

We just appreciate the schools and the

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students.

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concerned with the tribal history and with looking outward

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to be progressive and how to make decisions and problem

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solving.

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appreciate the families, the communities, and the school

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support in this.

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They're really

It's a wonderful program at both sites, and we

MS. JADA BROOKS:

I do have a plaque to present,

so let me go get that.

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The students are learning a lot.

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Mr. Chairman, if you would

come forward.

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MS. JADA BROOKS:

Okay.

I don't know if everyone

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can hear me, but this is a presentation of a plaque.

It

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was given to me by Dr. Jim Benson, who's also known as

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Uncle Jim.

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study.

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the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokees in Oklahoma.

He serves as a lead interventionist for the

He's also a tribal member and elder and leader of

He

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presented to me -- he presented this plaque last year, and

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I haven't been able to present it to the tribe, but I did

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want to do that tonight.

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It's a Cherokee Syllabary by Sequoyah, and to

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me, this symbolizes the different -- symbolizes

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differences.

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whether language, tribal affiliation, or culture.

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Through this project, we've been able to set aside

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our individual differences and unify as native

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peoples toward a greater goal: to provide our

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children, our future, with the tools to be

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successful.

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reminder to you as tribal leaders and tribal

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chairman of the importance of focusing on unity

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rather than individual differences.

Differences exist in many forms,

My hope is that this plaque will be a

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(Pause.)

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

My wife asked me why I wore

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this new sports coat she bought me for my birthday, so when

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I get home, I'm going to tell her I had my picture taken.

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I didn't know that was going to happen, so, Dock, it worked

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out.

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reports.

Our first report, our only committee report, is

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finance.

Ms. Janie?

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At this time, we're going to go into committee

MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

Yes.

The finance committee

had two budget amendment ordinances that came out of

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committee.

The first ordinance is CLLO-2015-0917-01,

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Budget Amendment #7.

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CLLO-2015-0917-01, Budget Amendment #8, NAHASDA Budget.

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you go down to the sixth whereas:

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The second amendment is

If

Whereas, The following NON-PROGRAM BUDGET

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AMENDMENT FUND is to be used to address the

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following, (see below).

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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

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The amendment is attached.

Therefore, Be it enacted by the Tribal

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Council of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina

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hereby allocate $88,213.00 from non-program funds,

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and,

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Therefore, Be it enacted by the Tribal

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Council of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina the

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following ordinance shall be cited as "NON-PROGRAM

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BUDGET AMENDMENT FUNDS."

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Therefore, Be it enacted by the Tribal

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Council of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina the

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following ordinance shall be amended and cited and

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"FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1, 2015-SEPTEMBER 30, 2016

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LUMBEE TRIBAL BUDGET ORDINANCE."

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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That's Amendment 7?

So

you're presenting Amendment 7 to the council?

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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

Yes.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Amendment 7 is being

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presented from the finance committee.

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since it's coming from committee.

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council?

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MR. JARROD LOWERY:

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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MR. JARROD LOWERY:

We need no second

What's the wishes of the

Mr. Speaker?

Yes, Mr. Jarrod?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I

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make a motion to amend this budget amendment.

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motion that we move from the second TBA [sic] where it says

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$15,000 to line 7000 and add to the $16,671.12.

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motion.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

been presented.

I make a

That's my

The motion on number 7 has

Do I hear a second?

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MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Second.

Okay.

Now, the amendment is

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we take line item, Community Events, and move it up to line

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7000, which I hope all of you can see that.

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that?

Any comment on that?

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Any comment on

MR. JARROD LOWERY:

May I speak on that, Mr.

Speaker?

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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MR. JARROD LOWERY:

Mr. Jarrod?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker?

I

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know we just went over it in the committee, and I have been

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told that Mr. Al Locklear has been very instrumental in the

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line 7000, and we really do appreciate that.

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to hear for the $15,000 to be used later on in the year,

I just want

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but we had already talked as a council before about

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increasing the tribal -- what the chairman and what each

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one of us gets per month, so this year would go up from

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$100 to $200 a month, and what we will be able to do when

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the other $200,000 comes in later in the month is replace

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the $15,000 that we're moving now.

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motion, and I'd love to have your support.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

So that's basically my

Any comments?

Anyone else?

A comment for -- Ms. Anita?

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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

Mr. Speaker, so my

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understanding the changing that he's requesting here is

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basically to increase the amount of money coming to the

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tribal council members?

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

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it?

Okay.

Yes, ma'am.

Didn't sound good, did

Just wondering.

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

The regular proposal if I'm

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not mistaken, Ms. Janie, was $100 a month for travel, and

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this would increase it to?

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MR. JARROD LOWERY:

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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expenses, meeting expenses.

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a call to question?

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MR. JARROD LOWERY:

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

$200.

$200 a month for travel and

Any other comments?

Do I hear

Call to question, Mr. Speaker.

Second on the question?

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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

Second.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Okay.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MS. LAKISIHA SWEAT:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Terry Hunt?

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MR. TERRY HUNT:

Yes.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Janie Oxendine McFarland?

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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. JARROD LOWERY:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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LaKishia Sweat?

No.

Yes.

Lesaundri Hunt?

Jonathan Locklear?

Yes.

Bobby Oxendine?

Larry Townsend?

Yes.

Douglas Locklear?

Reggie

Oxendine?

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Yes.

Jan Lowery, yes.

Bill

Brewington?

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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Jarrod Lowery?

Yes.

MR. REGINALD OXENDINE:

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Alton Locklear?

No.

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Roll call.

Pass.

Daniel Jones?

Anita Blanks

Hammonds -- Hammonds Blanks?

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

No.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Janet Locklear?

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MS. JANET LOCKLEAR:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. FRANK COOPER:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. SHELLEY STRICKLAND:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

Yes.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Amendment passed.

Yes.

Frank Cooper?

Yes.

Areatha Patterson.

Yes.

Shelley Strickland?

No.

William Maiden?

No.

Barbara Lowery?

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back to the original amendment as changed.

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comment on Amendment 7, Budget Amendment #7?

Now we go

Any further

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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:

Call for question.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Okay.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MS. LAKISIHA SWEAT:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Terry Hunt?

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MR. TERRY HUNT:

Yes.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Janie Oxendine McFarland?

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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

Roll call.

LaKishia Sweat?

No.

Yes.

Lesaundri Hunt?

Alton Locklear?

No.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

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MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

4

MR. JARROD LOWERY:

5

MS. JAN LOWERY:

6

MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

7

MS. JAN LOWERY:

8

Jonathan Locklear?

Bobby Oxendine?

Larry Townsend?

Yes.

Douglas Locklear?

Reggie

Oxendine?

MR. REGINALD OXENDINE:

10

MS. JAN LOWERY:

Yes.

Jan Lowery, yes.

Bill

Brewington?

12

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

13

MS. JAN LOWERY:

14

Jarrod Lowery?

Yes.

9

11

Yes.

Pass.

Daniel Jones?

Anita Hammonds

Blanks?

15

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

16

MS. JAN LOWERY:

17

MS. JANET LOCKLEAR:

18

MS. JAN LOWERY:

19

MR. FRANK COOPER:

20

MS. JAN LOWERY:

21

MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:

22

MS. JAN LOWERY:

23

MR. SHELLEY STRICKLAND:

24

MS. JAN LOWERY:

25

MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:

No.

Janet Locklear?

Yes.

Frank Cooper?

Yes.

Areatha Patterson?

Yes.

Shelley Strickland?

No.

William Maiden?

No.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

2

MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

3

MS. JAN LOWERY:

4

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

5

MS. JAN LOWERY:

6

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

7

approved.

8

9

10

Barbara Lowery?

Yes.

Bill Brewington?

Pass.

Okay.

Carried.

Motion carries.

Amendment #7 has been

Ms. Janie will now present Amendment #8.

MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

Amendment #8.

The sixth

whereas:

Whereas, The following NAHASDA Budget

11

Amendment is to be used to address following, (see

12

attachment).

13

Therefore, the NAHASDA budget is amended in

14

the amount of $281,677.60 to the "FISCAL YEAR

15

OCTOBER 1, 2015-SEPTEMBER 30, 2016 LUMBEE TRIBAL

16

BUDGET ORDINANCE", and,

17

Therefore, Be it enacted by the Tribal

18

Council of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina the

19

following ordinance shall be Amended and Cited as

20

"FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1, 2015-SEPTEMBER 30, 2016

21

LUMBEE TRIBAL BUDGET ORDINANCE."

22

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

23

Ms. Janie, you're presenting

that from the committee?

24

MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

Yes.

25

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

It's been brought from

21

1

committee, Amendment #8.

It needs no second.

2

discussion on that at this time?

3

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

4

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

5

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

Any

Mr. Speaker?

Ms. Anita?

I have a question.

6

Last year, the -- this tribal council did a budget

7

amendment, and what was presented to us was grant revenue

8

carryover, Grant Year 13-14, and I'm reading from the

9

document we received from the administration, and this says

10

Grant Year 13-14, budget balance less Grant Year 14-15

11

carryover.

12

how then do we have this document with the grant year

13

carryover for the year 13-14 for $5.4 million?

14

increase?

15

16

17

That amount was $3.5 million.

My question is

How did it

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Ms. Janie, can you speak to

MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

I -- not really because it

that?

18

was brought to my attention just shortly, and I don't know

19

if anyone from finance is here.

20

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

21

forward and speak to that?

22

MS. SHARON BLUE:

Ms. Sharon, can you step

Okay.

The document that you

23

have -- the total carryover amount, which we have projects

24

within there, is $3.7 million.

25

$281,000 needs to be reallocated to our budget that just

Of that $3.7 million,

22

1

ended.

2

3

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Stay still unless somebody's

got a question.

4

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

5

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

6

else?

7

Anyone else on this issue?

8

Mr. Speaker?

Wait a minute.

Then I'll let Ms. Anita go again.

Okay.

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

Anybody

Anyone else?

Ms. Anita?

My question is, Ms.

9

Sharon, with last year, the carryover amount minus the

10

carryover for 14-15 was only $3.5 million.

How then can it

11

this year have increased to $5.4 million?

That's the part

12

I don't understand.

13

14

15

16

17

MS. SHARON BLUE:

Where is the $5 million coming

from?

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

It's on this document

you gave us with -- for this amendment.

MS. SHARON BLUE:

On the first page.

On the first

18

page, the total revenue is $3,746,202.

19

and that's the only amount we're saying we carried forward

20

for this period.

Of that amount, only $281,677.60 needs to

21

be reallocated.

If you look at your document, the items

22

that are in yellow are carryover projects, and then the

23

gray color is the proposed allocation of the $281,000.

24

25

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Of that amount,--

Ms. Sharon, I think her

question is how it's got $3 million and another's got $5

23

1

million.

I think that's the questions she's trying to get

2

cleared up.

3

MS. SHARON BLUE:

4

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

5

Will you come up here and

let Ms. Anita show it to you so we can move on?

6

(Pause)

7

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

8

Sharon.

9

for all of us.

10

11

I don't see the five.

Go back to your mic, Ms.

If you would, go back to your mic and clear it up

MS. SHARON BLUE:

Does anyone have a copy of the

14-15 budget?

12

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

That's why it's good to have

13

your finance officer to deal with this kind of thing.

Ms.

14

Sharon, if you'd feel more comfortable, I'll ask Ms. Janie

15

to move that we table this and go back to committee and let

16

you meet with the committee and clear this up and bring it

17

back to the full council.

18

something tonight that you're not clear on, that we're not

19

clear on.

I hate for us to vote on

20

MS. SHARON BLUE:

Yeah.

21

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

I'd like to offer an

22

alternate motion.

Rather than approve this document that

23

we -- for some time now, we haven't had veterans services,

24

and that money is in the budget.

25

bare with me a moment -- page 4 under veterans.

If you turn to page -It's been

24

1

some time that we've finally gotten HUD's approval to

2

reinvest back into our veterans services, and I do know

3

that the veterans department is of need of this $60,000 --

4

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

So your motion --

5

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

My motion is to --

6

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

-- is to approve the

7

veterans portion?

8

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

-- to approve the veterans

9

portion, which is $60,799.88, and the rest of it will be

10

tabled.

11

MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

Second the motion.

12

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Mr. Townsend seconds that.

13

Any discussion?

We were tabling this from this amendment

14

except for the veterans portion.

15

for question?

Any discussion?

16

MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

Question.

17

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Okay.

18

please.

No call

Roll call vote,

This is on the veterans portion.

19

MS. JAN LOWERY:

LaKishia Sweat?

20

MS. LAKISIHA SWEAT:

21

MS. JAN LOWERY:

Terry Hunt?

22

MR. TERRY HUNT:

Yes.

23

MS. JAN LOWERY:

Janie Oxendine McFarland?

24

MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

25

MS. JAN LOWERY:

Yes.

Yes.

Lesaundri Hunt?

Alton Locklear?

25

1

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

2

MS. JAN LOWERY:

3

MR. JONATHAN LOCKLEAR:

4

MS. JAN LOWERY:

5

MR. JARROD LOWERY:

6

MS. JAN LOWERY:

7

MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

8

MS. JAN LOWERY:

9

Yes.

Jonathan Locklear?

Bobby Oxendine?

Larry Townsend?

Yes.

Douglas Locklear?

Reginald

Oxendine?

MR. REGINALD OXENDINE:

11

MS. JAN LOWERY:

Yes.

Jan Lowery, yes.

Bill

Brewington?

13

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

14

MS. JAN LOWERY:

15

Jarrod Lowery?

Yes.

10

12

Yes.

Pass.

Daniel Jones?

Anita Hammonds

Blanks?

16

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

17

MS. JAN LOWERY:

18

MS. JANET LOCKLEAR:

19

MS. JAN LOWERY:

20

MR. FRANK COOPER:

21

MS. JAN LOWERY:

22

MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:

23

MS. JAN LOWERY:

24

MR. SHELLEY STRICKLAND:

25

MS. JAN LOWERY:

Yes.

Janet Locklear?

Yes.

Frank Cooper?

Yes.

Areatha Patterson?

Yes.

Shelley Strickland?

Yes.

William Maiden?

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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:

Yes.

2

MS. JAN LOWERY:

3

MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

Yes.

4

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Motion carries for that

Barbara Lowery?

5

portion of our amendment, so, Ms. Jan [sic], I instruct you

6

to go back to the committee, and Ms. Sharon will help you

7

figure that out hopefully.

8

Mr. Ron forward who is the CO of our LTE, Lumbee Tribal

9

Enterprise for his comments.

10

Okay.

At this time, we call

(Pause)

11

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Mr. Ron, I ask before you

12

start that you give our guests a little background on what

13

LTE is and we council -- so you don't stand up there for a

14

few minutes talking and we don't know what you're talking

15

about.

16

what you do, what LTE is.

17

MR. RON OXENDINE:

In layman's terms, tell us exactly why you're here,

Lumbee Tribe Enterprise, LLC is

18

the for-profit part, as I describe it, for the Lumbee Tribe

19

of North Carolina, and what that means is you have a

20

company that is formed for our people that authorized --

21

who's function is to go out and obtain federal contracts,

22

state and local for the government to create for-profit

23

money or in your terms, unrestricted money, for use by the

24

tribe.

25

Tribe Enterprise is.

That is the simple layman's term for what Lumbee

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I will clarify one thing.

I'm not the CEO.

2

I do call myself the COO, the chief operating

3

officer, but Mr. Terry Hunt is the president.

4

He's the guy in charge, and he gets to explain

5

everything I get to stand up here and say today.

6

I presented out a brief for you that I want to

7

walk you through, and it's got part of the history

8

of us in there as well, and Mr. Speaker, there is

9

an action needed for this presentation, but not

10

for tonight.

It's just for later -- but anyway.

11

First thing I want to tell you about is who

12

the board of directors is that's part of Lumbee

13

Tribe Enterprise.

14

provides the leadership and guidance to LTE, and

15

if you go to page 2, former Chairman Paul Brooks,

16

in this capacity is determined by the Lumbee Tribe

17

of North Carolina.

18

board.

19

rotating position, so whoever the current

20

presiding chairman is, that position is designated

21

for him/her.

22

that's been submitted to SBA for approval.

23

process takes about 90 days or earlier.

24

replace Paul Brooks until that package is approved

25

by SBA.

The board of directors actually

He is currently still on our

As you can see, I noted that this is a

Chairman Godwin -- he has a package

That

He can't

The chairman's package was submitted on

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1

the 15th of December of 2015.

2

Also on the board is Gary Strickland.

Gary

3

Strickland in September of 2011 was selected by

4

then chairman and appointed as the chairman

5

representative to the board.

6

position.

7

next slide.

8

a permanent position.

9

and also our former economic development committee

10

chair.

It's a permanent

I'll define permanent for you in the

Tammy Maynor is also a member and is

Terry Hunt is our president

He's also in a rotating position.

11

Mr. Alton Locklear's package is pending to be

12

submitted, so that's what I'm really here to talk

13

about tonight.

14

council appointee.

15

representative to the board of directors for LTE.

16

Mr. Kernice Locklear is also a member or permanent

17

director, and I am a permanent director.

18

Brian Locklear is also a tribal

In other words, he's your

I'll tell you permanent means it's a 15-year

19

position, effective 1 September 2011.

Now, why am

20

I here tonight?

21

next slide where we talk about an SBA meeting.

22

the 4th of February of this month, Terry Hunt and

23

Tammy Maynor met with the Lumbee Tribe's Business

24

Opportunity Specialist up in Charlotte at the SBA,

25

Ms. Mia Fagley -- Fagley.

The reason I'm here is on the

On

Let me say that

29

1

2

correctly.

The purpose of that meeting was just to go do

3

a face-to-face, let her know who Lumbee Tribe

4

Enterprise is, listen to the people.

5

get to know her because she just flew in from

6

Denver, Colorado.

7

experience working with tribal companies as well

8

as Alaska natives, so it was our or Tammy and

9

Terry's opportunity to go meet with her

10

face-to-face and sit down and go and talk about

11

LTE in a get-to-know-you fashion.

12

things that Ms. Fagley brought up that is an issue

13

with LTE is the structure.

14

which means the board of directors, which I gave

15

you the list on the previous page, there are two

16

rotating positions that are on the board of

17

directors: the chairman and also the economic

18

development chair.

We needed to

She also had a lot of

One of the

Now our structure,

19

Now, in the past, there's always been an

20

economic development chairman selected by the

21

tribal council in January.

22

Change of Management Package we have to submit to

23

SBA for approval so that we can do our normal

24

operations for LTE.

25

things that that Change of Management Package

That results in a

I put down in red one of the

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1

does.

2

situation where you're not fully able to benefit

3

in the 8(a) Program.

4

the next slide.

5

It kind of puts you in a limited operating

Okay.

What does that mean?

I'll explain that on

When you do a Change of

6

Management Package, the first things that you're

7

not allowed to do: you're not able to create any

8

joint ventures ergo any new companies where you

9

see an opportunity to do work, nor are you able to

10

submit a Mentor Protege package, and I'll tell you

11

what these two packages are.

12

when you team with a company to form a company for

13

the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina that will have

14

8(a) certification, and it will be an opportunity

15

for that company to pursue specific or any

16

specific contract.

17

also allowed to be awarded up to three contracts

18

before the joint venture comes to an end.

19

A Joint Venture is

In addition to that, you're

The board has a pending joint venture that's

20

in place, but we're not able to submit that

21

package right now because Chairman Godwin's

22

package is going through the Change of Management

23

process.

24

through Mentor Protege with a company in Tampa,

25

Florida.

Mentor Protege -- we've agreed to go

That Mentor Protege -- that means that

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1

company will be our mentor, and they will help us

2

acquire contracts and work with us and train us on

3

business development and all the activities

4

associated with trying to grow and the operations

5

of a company.

6

That's been agreed to occur, but again, we can't

7

submit the package pending the Change of

8

Management Package for Chairman Godwin.

9

That is a formal SBA process.

What can you do?

Continue to market and

10

pursue contracts.

11

continue to bid on 8(a), Small Business, and Full

12

and Open opportunities, and you can also obtain

13

Sole Source Contract Awards from the government,

14

and when we say Full Source Opportunities, that's

15

when you heard me talk about the opportunity to

16

get $22.5 million-dollar contracts; sole source.

17

Okay.

What that means is you can

Today,-- on the next slide, the board,

18

as a result of our meeting with SBA, had a board

19

meeting.

20

was to discuss the Change of Management Packet or

21

issues of constantly doing Change of Management

22

Packages.

23

today was obviously to retain Chairman of the

24

Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina as a rotating

25

position.

The primary reason of that board meeting

The board recommendations that came out

That only occurs every three years

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1

and/or six, so you don't have to do a change but

2

once every three years.

3

The change of the economic development chair

4

position -- we are recommending that it become a

5

permanent position.

6

September 2011, but in addition to submitting that

7

package, it will also require an update to our

8

operating agreement for LTE.

9

would have to tell SBA how it changes, the way

10

LTE's board will function, and that's also part of

11

the package that we'll deal with.

12

going to recommend or what will happen is that

13

instead of the economic development committee

14

chairperson being automatically assigned the

15

board, which is also a Change of Management

16

Package, what we're going to recommend to you is

17

that we take or leave that position a second

18

tribal council appointed position.

19

words, you have another opportunity to go out and

20

tell us who the person is you want to fill in that

21

position.

Again, 15 years beginning 1

In other words, we

Now, what we're

In other

Who do you want?

22

Specifically, if you look at the next

23

bullets, you'll see some options, and these are

24

just recommendations.

25

current economic development committee chairman.

Mr. Alton Locklear is the

33

1

He is in line to take that position, and the

2

tribal council can let him continue down that path

3

and appoint him as the permanent representative to

4

the LTE board.

5

have the option to go out and identify someone

6

completely different, but that's why we want to

7

give you basically 30 days to discuss, address,

8

ask questions, or whatever to meet that deadline.

9

If you don't like that option, you

You see my last bullet down there.

It's

10

critical to me that you make this decision next

11

month or by the next monthly meeting because it's

12

anticipated that Chairman Godwin's package should

13

be approved about that time, which means the

14

Mentor Protege package that we've been waiting to

15

submit -- it is critical because the proposal has

16

been submitted -- can immediately be submitted and

17

subsequently approved.

18

process could also take 60-90 days.

19

your appointee and make that Change of Management

20

Package for that permanent tribal council

21

appointed position, and then you'll only have to

22

do it one more time, so what we're trying to do is

23

take every advantage that the SBA gives to LTE so

24

we can fully participate in 8(a) -- where we can

25

do joint ventures anytime we want.

Then, after that, the

Then we take

We can

34

1

establish -- you can do multiple Mentor Proteges

2

although that's I don't think in our future -- at

3

least use all the opportunities from SBA.

4

So that's what we're recommending to the

5

tribal council, and again, I think 30 days should

6

be enough time, Mr. Speaker.

7

for your action.

8

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

9

MR. RON OXENDINE:

10

Thank you.

Any questions or discussion for

me?

11

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

12

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

13

Any questions?

Mr. Speaker?

MR. RON OXENDINE:

15

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

Sure.

It says on your

handout here -- you're calling these permanent positions --

17

MR. RON OXENDINE:

18

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

19

says 15, so why are you calling it permanent?

20

I have a

question.

14

16

We'll leave that up

MR. RON OXENDINE:

Defined that's 15 years.

-- because your bylaws

Well, that's my term.

21

Initially, when we talk about selecting the board of

22

directors, that's back when we picked up that term.

23

was back in September 2011.

24

members, rotating board members, and that's just kind of

25

the dialogue I've continued with, but that permanent was

That

We had permanent board

35

1

defined as 15 years from the start.

2

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

3

else?

4

5

So am I -- anybody

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

before Ms. Anita again?

6

Anybody else?

Last call.

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

Anybody else

Ms. Anita?

So am I to understand

7

the big issue here is the fact that economic development

8

person gets chosen every year, and that's the three-month

9

transition from person to person to person?

10

issue?

11

MR. RON OXENDINE:

Yes.

That's the big

And that's a process that

12

takes roughly 90 days or more.

The SBA advertises 90 days,

13

but when you get your approval back, you get your approval

14

back.

15

I forgot to mention, whoever you select to go in this

16

position has to go through the approval process like all

17

the other directors have, and what that means is you got to

18

provide three years of your income tax, you got to go

19

through background checks, which you can't have any

20

incidents, and I will say incidents because it doesn't

21

necessarily have to be a felony.

22

I think some of you have heard about my definition of an

23

incident previously from issues before.

Also, the key thing to note, and also to Al because

It could be any incident.

24

Then you got to fill out all the SBA forms

25

and the packages we have to do, so keep that in

36

1

mind as you talk as one of the things we got to

2

do.

3

We've got to run a background check after your

4

nominee is provided so that we have our

5

understanding.

6

something in the person's background before we do,

7

and keep in mind, if you don't pass their

8

criteria, then that person's got to approve

9

another Change of Management Package, so it would

10

behoove the council to talk about it, select the

11

right person -- but it would be your appointee as

12

our recommendation.

13

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

14

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

15

We got to run one from LTE's perspective.

We don't want SBA to find

Can -I have another

question.

16

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Go ahead.

17

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

It's my understanding

18

is that the reason that Terry Hunt is the president was

19

because Brian didn't clear that, but he's still a member of

20

the board of directors?

21

MR. RON OXENDINE:

22

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

23

24

25

That's correct.

How does he remain if

he didn't clear?

MR. RON OXENDINE:

SBA says he can be a board of

directors because he's not in control.

He's (Indicating)

37

1

the present boss of the company.

2

voting member of the board of six, in this case, but you

3

can't lead the charge because again, it's called your

4

management structure.

5

You know, you can be a

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

So is -- am I correct

6

in understanding that Mr. Hunt is the president of the

7

corporation?

8

MR. RON OXENDINE:

9

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

10

MR. RON OXENDINE:

11

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

12

That's correct.

The LTE corporation?

Yes.

Does he have a

contract?

13

MR. RON OXENDINE:

No.

14

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

15

MR. RON OXENDINE:

16

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

17

MR. RON OXENDINE:

18

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Just asking.

He doesn't need one.

Thank you, Mr. Ron.

Thank you.

Council, if you would, take

19

your calendar out at this time.

I know we're going to get

20

through it, and I'm asking Mr. Al to set up an economic

21

development meeting before this date so you all can attend

22

that meeting, and then we can come back on our next council

23

meeting -- I reckon the 17th of March.

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on the 10th, so let's go back to the 3rd.

25

that down as a special call meeting to deal with this issue

Many will be away

Go ahead and put

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only at this point.

I'll let you know that will be March

2

the 3rd because, Mr. Al, you can have your meeting before

3

that time.

4

little later.

5

administrator to give us an update.

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MR. DOCK LOCKLEAR:

We will get into other committee meetings a

Okay.

At this time, we'll ask our tribal

Mr. Speaker, fellow board

7

members, a couple items I'd like to go over with you.

8

First thing I'd like to say is we're in the process of

9

doing some painting inside the building.

10

understand, there's not been any painting since the

11

building was built, and we see some need to do that.

12

You'll notice we also had some spots in our carpet that was

13

torn and whatever, and we had someone come in and repair

14

those places for us, and we also cleaned that carpet.

15

From what I

One thing that we found out -- we were having

16

some problems with the microphones, and we had

17

someone come in and take a look at that, and we

18

found that when the system was set up, each of

19

these mics is supposed to have a cord running from

20

the mic straight to the system room back here.

21

What they did when they put the mics in, they

22

spliced them together, so when you have one mic

23

goes out, all of them shuts down, and then you

24

have to reboot the system to get them back up, and

25

that's not always a good option, so we'll try to

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find somebody or get somebody to give us an

2

estimate on what it would take to resolve that

3

problem and get it to where they work.

4

I'd like to thank Council member Jan Lowery

5

and Dr. Cherry Beasley for coming in and doing our

6

HIPPA training on the 17th and all the staff was

7

involved in that process, and we just appreciate

8

them doing that for us.

9

report to the council is that we had to welcome

10

the State Board of Elections and our tribal cards

11

-- they are going to allow us to use them as

12

identification in the next vote, though the senior

13

card, because they don't have an expiration date

14

on them, they won't let us use those, so what

15

we'll probably have to do is do an ordinance to

16

put an expiration date on that card, and then

17

they'll allow us to use them.

One thing I'd like to

18

On the 9th of February, the Chamber of

19

Commerce hosted a rise and shine breakfast in the

20

tribal facility.

21

There was approximately 112 business and community

22

leaders that attended that function this year.

23

Mr. Speaker, Chairman Godwin, and Chancellor

24

Cummings was the speaker for that day, and they

25

challenged us and gave us some good, inspiring

This is the first of its kind.

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comments, and we feel like that was a great

2

success.

3

On the 16th of February, I met with the

4

Pembroke Innovations Council.

They asked me to

5

come over as a representative of the Tribe.

6

Town of Pembroke is looking for some method of

7

attracting more businesses and individuals to the

8

town, and they're looking at some renovations to

9

do some of the streets and possibly some work up

10

there at the park, and they just wanted our input

11

since we are located here in this area.

The

12

One other item I'd like to bring before the

13

council is last week we met with the Red Cross.

14

They would like to distribute smoke detectors to

15

all the senior citizens of the county.

16

detectors that they have will be presenting --

17

this is a five-year program.

18

lithium battery.

19

since we have 14 districts that each of the

20

council from those districts set up a meeting, and

21

let us know when those meetings will be, and we'll

22

get the representative, which is Pat Smart, to be

23

in attendance, and also, if you could get the fire

24

department from your district to be there to help

25

them install those smoke detectors at the senior

The smoke

They have a ten-year

They made a suggestion that

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citizen's residence.

2

If you'd like to do that -- I'm not standing

3

up here telling you you have to do it.

4

just a suggestion, so if you decide you want to

5

participate in this, just let me know, and we'll

6

coordinate a time with them and also getting the

7

fire department set up.

8

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

9

Mr. Dock?

That's

Any burning questions for

I'll start with Ms. Barbara and go around.

10

MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

I'd just like to say that

11

I'll represent my district.

12

MR. FRANK COOPER:

13

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

14

MR. JARROD LOWERY:

Same.

Any questions?

Mr. Jarrod?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr.

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Administrator, I have one quick question.

16

amendment that was brought before us was proposed by the

17

chairman or was brought by the administration, and

18

Councilwoman Anita had a very good question, and my

19

question is, why wasn't anybody from the administration

20

able to answer the question about the budget amendment that

21

was brought before us from the administration?

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(Pause.)

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MS. SHARON BLUE:

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25

The budget

I've got a response now.

I

brought up my email.

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

I think his question, Ms.

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Sharon, is why did we have to wait to go back and research

2

it and didn't have an answer when Ms. Anita brought it up.

3

MS. SHARON BLUE:

I think that, that question

4

should have been brought before me or to me before the

5

meeting so I could've researched it.

6

guard.

7

8

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Okay.

I was caught off

But you will meet

with the finance committee?

9

MS. SHARON BLUE:

10

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

11

Dock.

12

February --

Yes.

Anyone else?

Thank you, Mr.

Councilmen, if you would take your calendar out for

13

MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:

Mr. Speaker, I have a

14

question concerning the constitution and ordinance

15

committee.

16

was discussed in the committee, and it was about

17

redistricting.

18

redistricting, so I just wanted to ask a question.

19

anything been done as far as starting the redistricting

20

process?

Just want to throw it out there.

I know they have the funds for

21

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

22

point in time ready to comment on that?

23

MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

Absolutely.

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Okay.

24

25

I know this

Has

Mr. Townsend, are you at a

The answer is

yes.

Thank you.

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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

Mr. Speaker?

2

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Mr. Townsend?

3

MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

I would like to schedule a

4

constitution meeting for --

5

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Hold on just a minute.

If

6

you would go to February, Ms. Barbara has asked that no one

7

schedule anything on February 25th and give her your entire

8

evening, so she's got that date, and she said she's going

9

to need approximately 2-3 hours, and we don't want to be

10

out all night.

11

February 25th, and I told her that would be the only one,

12

and she talked like it would be a lengthy one.

13

Townsend.

So put Ms. Barbara down for housing on

Now, Mr.

I just wanted to cover her.

14

MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

15

the constitution committee.

March 1st at 6:30, meeting of

16

MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

February 1st at 7:30.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

March 1st?

18

MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:

I'm sorry.

19

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Finance.

20

constitution and finance.

21

Barbara?

March 1st.

You've got

That's a lot in one night.

Ms.

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MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

I'd like 6-6:30.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

6-6:30 unless anyone says

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25

otherwise, we do all our meetings at 6:30.

MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

That's fine.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Constitution and finance at

2

6:30 and 7:30.

We prorate an hour, but if it takes more,

3

it takes more.

Mr. Al?

4

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

We have a special call

5

meeting on the 3rd; is that correct?

6

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Right.

7

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

That doesn't give us many

8

days to schedule a committee meeting.

9

choose the 25th.

10

me 30 minutes of your time from 6:30-7:00 for economic

11

development to discuss this issue for what we're having

12

this special call meeting for?

13

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

What about the 23rd, Mr. Al?

14

MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

I think I can do 30 minutes

I was going to

Ms. Barbara, do you think you could give

15

because we're going to be having quite a few of these

16

meetings for housing.

17

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

Also, I'd like to request if

18

Ms. Barbara's going to keep us here for three hours that

19

she provide food.

20

MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:

Is that a motion?

21

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

Yes.

22

MS. LAKISIHA SWEAT:

Second.

23

MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

I can handle that.

24

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Point taken, Ms. Barbara.

25

February 25th, economic development is going to meet from

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6:30-7:00, and housing from 7:00 to 10:30-11:00.

According

2

to that book she sent me, you better get ready.

Any -- Mr.

3

Jarrod?

4

MR. JARROD LOWERY:

Mr. Speaker, federal

5

recognition committee would like to have a meeting on

6

Thursday, March 10th at 6:30.

7

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

8

people away at that time.

9

MR. FRANK COOPER:

10

There will be quite a few

Mr. Speaker, I'd like to have

education meeting committee right after his meeting.

11

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

So we got recognition and

12

education on the 10th?

That's no conflict with any of your

13

members?

Conflict on that?

14

through it.

15

at 6:30, housing at 7:00.

16

constitution at 6:30, finance at 7:30.

17

3rd, we have a special meeting to deal with the LTE issue,

18

6:30.

19

6:30 and education at 7:30.

20

MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:

Mr. Speaker?

21

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Mr. Maiden?

22

MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:

Can I ask Ms. Belinda -- does

23

Any members?

Okay.

Let's go

On February 25th, we got economic development

On March 1st, we got

Then on March the

On March the 10th, we got federal recognition at

the unity conference start that Thursday on the 10th?

24

MS. BELINDA BREWER:

Yeah.

25

MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:

What time does it all start

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that day?

2

3

MS. BELINDA BREWER:

Registration starts at 10:00,

and I'm not sure what time everything else starts.

4

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

5

any conflict for the two committees.

6

MS. JAN LOWERY:

That's why I asked was there

The North Carolina Commission of

7

Indian Affairs has their meeting that morning, and then

8

usually the grand entry's at like 1:30 that afternoon.

9

10

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

He recommended the 8th.

Is

that okay with you?

11

MR. JARROD LOWERY:

12

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

(Nonverbal response.)

Move federal recognition and

13

education back to the 8th because some are planning the

14

attend the Indian Unity Conference, and that starts at 3:30

15

in the afternoon.

16

Ms. Jan?

MS. JAN LOWERY:

I need the council to look or

17

think of or help me with a date when so we can come, Dr.

18

Beasley and I, can come and do the training on the HIPPA

19

training for the council members, and that will take about

20

an hour and fifteen minutes, and we can feed you that

21

night, so if you would look.

22

be filled up.

23

night?

Apparently February seems to

Can we look at March?

24

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

25

March 14th for HIPPA training.

Is March 14th a good

March 14th?

All right.

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

2

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

3

MS. JAN LOWERY:

4

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

5

Right.

And dinner.

MS. JAN LOWERY:

7

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

That's fine.

8

anyone since we got dinner?

9

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

6:30?

At six.

MS. JAN LOWERY:

12

MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

Could we really do that at

So 6:30?

We could, like, eat and

train?

14

MS. JAN LOWERY:

15

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Okay.

17

MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

Yes.

18

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Okay.

16

a second.

20

announcement.

21

my calendar.

23

24

25

Right.

Any others?

Ms.

Barbara?

19

22

Does six bother

It's kind of tough to get here by 6:00.

11

13

What time you want to start?

At six?

6

10

And dinner?

The 23rd.

We'll get to that in

We'll get to the announcements.

I got you.

We'll get to it.

MR. REGINALD OXENDINE:

That's an

I got that on

Mr. Speaker, on the 8th,

is federal recognition at 6:30 and education at 7:30?

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

6:30, education at 7:30.

Yes.

Federal recognition at

It may not take 30 minutes, so

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that one may not take long.

He may not need an hour, so

2

you might need to come early on that one.

3

meetings?

4

committee meetings.

5

remember all those days.

6

website and load them on there, right?

Any other

By the way, the public is invited to our

They are open to the public if you can

They can probably go on the

7

MS. JAN LOWERY:

Yeah.

8

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Anything else on the

9

calendar?

Seems like we're busy people.

At this time, we

10

call our chairman forward for comments.

Anything I forget?

11

No.

We're going to get to announcements.

12

CHAIRMAN GODWIN:

Good evening.

Thank you, Mr.

13

Speaker and distinguished Lumbee Tribal Council Members for

14

this opportunity tonight.

15

five things to your attention.

16

working on it.

17

volunteers, and some tribal employees are putting it

18

together.

19

to the Indian Cultural Center because that's where it's

20

going to be. I thank Mr. Speaker for his efforts and

21

bringing some people together who have a lot of knowledge

22

about the culture center and the logistics of it.

23

biggest thing will be transportation, parking.

24

plan for that.

25

praying for good weather.

I just wanted to bring four or

One, the pow wow.

Very excited about it.

We're

We have 40 plus

It's going to be a big challenge brining it back

We have utilities.

The

We got a

We'll be hoping and

We think we've got a backup plan

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for that as well.

2

I don't know what you may be hearing out in

3

the community, but a lot of people are very,very

4

happy we're moving it back to the culture center.

5

A lot of people -- you know, I have to wear a lot

6

of different hats.

7

the culture aspect of this, the culture center

8

itself -- our connection to the land as a people

9

is very important and critical at this point in

10

time, especially for our young people.

11

Culture is one of them, but

If you'll look up on the monitors there,

12

you'll see a mock up right now of what the

13

T-shirts may look like.

14

this.

15

School are putting this together, but it's really

16

just a hawk and the silhouette of the moon and a

17

tree, which is kind of getting back to the

18

environment of the culture center with the trees

19

there and the full moon and the red tail hawk,

20

which is indigenous to our area and to our tribe.

21

They've got that piece worked out, and hopefully

22

they'll have that finished -- we've got

23

committees.

24

doing a fantastic job with the committees, and

25

they're all working together in the cold and the

We're still working on

Some students from Purnell Swett High

Mr. John Oxendine has got -- he's

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rain to get everything put together.

2

kind of what the T-shirt will look like in black

3

and yellow or on a red or yellow T-shirt at this

4

point in time.

5

silhouette of it.

6

So this is

That may change, but that's the

I'd also like to mention a couple other

7

things.

8

trying to make sure that we do due diligence on

9

that.

10

Bosco, Ms. Tammy, finance director, Ms. Brewer,

11

who is here, so I think we have all the

12

administrative support here to answer any

13

questions you may have.

14

(Indicating) comment a little earlier was that, if

15

there's some disconnect, just give us a call.

16

We're meeting before this meeting, we're meeting

17

upon meetings to share information.

18

trying to make is if we don't have the answer for

19

you that very minute, we have a staff here for you

20

at your meetings that can get the information for

21

you before the meeting's up, and if they can't,

22

then that will be another discussion.

23

Support, administrative support.

I'm

We have the tribal administrator here, Mr.

I would expand on her

The point I'm

We also have if you notice tech support.

24

Both of our tech people, Ms. Tonya Lowry and my

25

brother back here,--

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MS. JAN LOWERY:

Joe.

2

CHAIRMAN GODWIN:

Joe.

What can I say.

3

his name.

4

job, and they're getting the mics fixed, but you'll have

5

tech support here for your meetings.

6

meeting you have, you'll have tech support so we can be

7

heard, and people can make sure they get the correct

8

information.

9

expand.

10

have tech support at every meeting and also security.

11

She's sitting right back there from R&R, and she's done a

12

great job for us, so we'll have tech and security support

13

for you.

14

I talk to him everyday.

I know

They're doing a great

For every committee

Working on things like this, that's going to

You'll be able to do more things up here, so we'll

Tomorrow at 9:00, we're having a prayer --

15

pray in, whatever you want to call it.

16

be our second one right here in these chambers.

17

think it's important, and I'd like for you all to

18

come if you'd like.

19

minutes.

20

important we get back to our core values, and

21

that's one of them.

22

everything that we're doing right now.

23

This will

I

It will last for about 30

People give comments -- but I think it's

I think we need prayer on

Lumbee Tribal Holdings.

I want to expand

24

just a little bit on what Mr. Ron Oxendine was

25

talking about.

He's talking about Lumbee Tribe

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Enterprises.

What we're doing right now is very,

2

very, very important.

3

the Lumbee Tribe to become prosperous with this

4

mechanism in the future for the next nine years.

5

What that does is just bring contracts

We have the opportunity for

6

together.

7

business and professionals.

8

high-level security clearance for these contracts

9

we're talking about.

10

them.

11

clearances to do it, and some of it's kind of

12

secret, so he can't tell us everything, and

13

because of the contracts and the nature of them,

14

it is what it is; not just getting the contracts.

15

He goes out and he shops for the

You have to have

Nobody in this room can get

You've got to have those kinds of federal

There's another level that's called Lumbee

16

Tribal Holdings.

Once the contracts are secured,

17

when the profits from those contracts start going

18

to Lumbee Tribal Holdings, that's the critical

19

part.

20

and we decide as a committee and as a team what to

21

do with that money; what programs do you want to

22

build, what scholarships do you want to start,

23

stipends for travel, and a lot of other things we

24

haven't even thought about yet because we haven't

25

got that far, but let me tell you that it's coming

That's the part when you take that profit

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very quickly.

2

Now there was a resolution that was made a

3

couple years ago where there's five people on that

4

committee.

5

administrator, the head of housing, and two tribal

6

council members on it.

7

passed, and I won't get into details of that, but

8

the two tribal council members were removed, so

9

you only had the chair, the administrator, and the

10

head of housing on Lumbee Tribal Holdings, which

11

will decide where this money's going to go, so I

12

challenge you -- I know you've got all these

13

meeting's scheduled, but I challenge you to have a

14

board -- a tribal council board meeting to let's

15

discuss this in detail, and you need to select two

16

people that need to go on Lumbee Tribal Holdings.

17

That's even more critical than the LTE.

18

to have us representing that.

19

There's the chair, there's the

When the resolution was

You got

We got to plan together, we got to have your

20

constituents involved.

We're going to have to

21

have focus groups out at your community centers --

22

what's important to the people because when this

23

money starts flowing and we have a profit, we

24

don't have to spend it right then, but we need a

25

plan, and this Lumbee Tribal Holdings is the

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apparatus for the plan and for these

2

disbursements, so I don't think we need to decide

3

tonight on a date to think about it, and see if we

4

can have a meeting in the next two weeks on the

5

board of the Lumbee Tribal Holdings.

6

Accountability, transparency, open

7

government.

I had a meeting Tuesday with Senator

8

Richard Burr.

He came to my business office in

9

Lumberton for an hour.

10

Robeson County for five years, and he came in to

11

see us.

It's a political year, he's running, I

12

get it.

Federal recognition, I feel really,

13

really good about him being a champion for us.

14

He's one of the top five US Senators in the US

15

Senate right now, and if he wins, he'll be even

16

more powerful, and the man's the head of the

17

Intelligence Committee; he knows IT.

18

talking to me about some stuff I didn't even know

19

what he was talking about.

20

He hadn't stepped foot in

He was

I feel good about our confederates there, and

21

with Congressman Hudson, I would ask Councilman

22

Jarrod, if I can work together with you on this

23

because we have to have a single message now, and

24

they're expecting leadership from the chair

25

position to champion with them, and we all got to

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1

be saying the same thing, so if you allow me, I'd

2

like to work with you on that.

3

message right -- so they're not going to do much

4

in this election, so it would be early 2017.

5

can get a good push going with that plan, and we

6

push for it, and I think federal recognition needs

7

to be at the top of the list, not at the bottom of

8

the list.

9

that money could secure full federal recognition.

10

I'm telling you -- the next several generations --

11

some of the things we're talking about struggling

12

with with money and trying to find pennies here

13

and there won't be an issue anymore.

14

enough money to take care of our generations to

15

come.

Let's get the

We

Lumbee Tribal Enterprises, Holdings --

We'll have

16

The last thing I would say to you is this.

17

The last month or so, me and my wife -- she's at

18

home alone now.

19

her than I want to, but I questioned myself

20

lately: Why did I decided to do this?

21

Burr asked me that same question.

22

first question he asked me: Why'd you decide to

23

run for tribal chair?

24

understood what I was talking about.

25

box from the little children of Red Hill

I'm spending more time away from

Senator

That's the

I told him why, and he

Here I got a

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Apartments in Maxton.

2

The Honorable Harvey Godwin, Jr., and inside,

3

are all these letters from kids, children, and you

4

know what they want?

5

playground at Red Hill Apartments.

6

they're saying so we can stay out of the streets,

7

so bad people that walk up and down the highway

8

there can't snatch them, where they feel safe.

9

They just want a playground.

10

don't know with this LTE and Lumbee Tribal

11

Holdings.

12

something like this again.

13

about.

14

let's not lose our focus on that.

15

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

All they asked for is a

Ms. Sweat,

That's what you

You won't ever have to worry about

This is what it's

This is what it's really about.

Please,

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

At

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this time, we will open the floor for announcements from

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our council.

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because I know you had a burning announcement, so you have

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the open floor.

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Ms. Barbara, I'm going to let you go first

MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

Yes.

On February 25th down

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at the First Nations Boys and Girls Club, we're going to

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have a community meeting.

We're inviting the tribal

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council to come on out.

We'll have musicians out there,

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and we start at 6:00, and our meeting will be at 7:00.

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23rd, next Tuesday.

It starts at 6:00.

The

The people out

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there's preparing soup and drinks.

They provided water.

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If they want to provide, I don't tell them no.

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that would like to come is welcome to come.

Everybody

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

At 6:00?

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MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

Well, the music starts, and

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then the food we're going to have ready.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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MS. BARBARA LOWERY:

Club.

First Nations Boys and Girls

It's on Singletary Church Road.

MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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reminder on that.

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announcements?

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She had that 25th

meeting on her mind.

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The 23rd.

Ms. Belinda can send us a

All right.

We'll go around.

Announcements?

MR. JARROD LOWERY:

Any

Mr. Jarrod?

Really isn't an announcement,

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but I just want to let everybody know that today the North

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Carolina State Legislature and the United States Court of

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Appeals redrew our congressional districts, all 13

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districts in the state, so you need to check and see.

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all pretty much live in different congressional districts,

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and we all have different congressmen, so Robeson County's

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in the 9th, Hoke County's in the 8th, and Cumberland

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County's split between the 7th and the 4th -- no -- excuse

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me. Cumberland County's split between the 8th and the 9th,

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so the maps are out.

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give a full update about all that at our federal

We

Get online and check it out, and I'll

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recognition meeting.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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see Mr. Jarrod.

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office.

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Thank you.

If you got questions, just

He's got inside with the governor's

MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:

Mr. Speaker, if I might, as a

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reminder to the education committee with the unity

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conference coming up the weekend of the 10th, 11th, and

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12th, there was a request for a scholarship funding, and

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that was sent to education, and I don't know if you had a

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chance to talk about it yet or not, and I know that you

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have a meeting that week before that, so I'd like, if you

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would, remember that.

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on the board up there, and they made that request; if you

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remember those letters I passed out to you.

We have a representative here that's

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

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questions, just get with Mr. Maiden.

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announcement.

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your committees.

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noticed there was three councilmen that was not on a

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committee, and it's required that all council serve on at

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least one committee, so I worked with some chairpersons,

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and I'm glad to say tonight, Ms. Sweat, all three were on

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at least one committee, so I thank you, chairmen, for

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working with me to fill those positions.

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If you got anymore

I have one general

In your package, you received a new copy of

When I looked this one over, Ms. Belinda

The only other announcement I have is after

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the benediction, I need to meet with all those

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that requested to attend the National Housing

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Conference in May back in the break room.

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won't take me but a minute to tell you what's

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going on, but all of those that requested to

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attend the national conference.

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I'm going to call a dear friend of mine up to the

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podium.

Mr. Bruce Barton, would you close us in

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prayer?

He's -- I worked for him for many years,

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so I know he's capable.

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If nothing else,

Mr. Barton?

(A prayer was given by Mr. Bruce Barton.)

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

I do need a motion to

adjourn.

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MR. FRANK COOPER:

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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:

Second.

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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:

Meeting's adjourned.

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Motion.

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