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LUMBEE TRIBE OF NORTH CAROLINA
6984 NC HIGHWAY 711 WEST
PEMBROKE, NORTH CAROLINA 28372
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JUNE 2015 TRIBAL COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING
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CHAIRMAN PAUL BROOKS
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TRIBAL COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES
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EVAN DAVENPORT
TERRY HUNT
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JANIE OXENDINE MCFARLAND
LESAUNDRI HUNT
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JONATHAN LOCKLEAR
BOBBY OXENDINE
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JARROD LOWERY
DOUGLAS LOCKLEAR
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LARRY TOWNSEND
ROBERT CHAVIS
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JAN LOWERY
BILL BREWINGTON
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DANIEL JONES
ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS
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TERRY COLLINS
FRANK COOPER
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AREATHA PATTERSON
SHELLEY STRICKLAND
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WILLIAM MAIDEN
HOMER FIELDS
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APPEARANCES
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TRIBAL COUNCIL MEMBERS
TERRY HUNT
JANIE OXENDINE MCFARLAND
LESAUNDRI HUNT
JARROD LOWERY
LARRY TOWNSEND
DOUGLAS LOCKLEAR
ROBERT CHAVIS
JAN LOWERY
BILL BREWINGTON
DANIEL JONES
ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS
TERRY COLLINS
AREATHA PATTERSON
SHELLEY STRICKLAND
WILLIAM MAIDEN
HOMER FIELDS
LESAUNDRI HUNT
ALTON LOCKLEAR
BOBBY OXENDINE
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ALSO PRESENT
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Chairman Paul Brooks
Tony Hunt
Tammy Maynor
Gary Strickland
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PROCEEDINGS
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The following proceedings were held on Thursday,
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June 18, 2015, at 6:30 p.m.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
It's time for
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us to begin.
Welcome to the June Lumbee Tribal
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Council business meeting.
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recognize our chairman, Mr. Paul Brooks -- also
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former councilman Mr. Terry Campbell, and we're
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certainly glad to have all of the members with
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us tonight.
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prayer.
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you want to do the invocation for us.
We'd like to
If he would, we would begin with
I'm going to ask Mr. Homer Fields if
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(A prayer was given by Mr. Homer
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Fields.)
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
I ask Mr. Larry
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Townsend to lead us in the Pledge of
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Allegiance.
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(The Pledge of Allegiance was
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rendered.)
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. William Maiden,
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will you lead us in the preamble to the
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constitution?
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(The preamble to the tribal
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constitution was read.)
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Thank you.
Ms. Jan
Lowery, would you do the roll call, please.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Evan Davenport?
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Ms. Jan, it's my
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understanding -- he emailed and said he's going
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to try to make it, but there's a possibility he
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would have to be at work.
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Jonathan Lowery [sic] said something came up
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with him, and he wouldn't be able to make it.
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I'd like to ask that they be excused, please.
And also, Mr.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Terry Hunt?
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MR. TERRY HUNT:
Here.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Janie Oxendine McFarland?
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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. JARROD LOWERY:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Here.
Lesaundri Hunt?
Here.
Alton Locklear?
Here.
Bobby Oxendine?
Present.
Jarrod Lowery?
Here.
Larry Townsend?
Here.
Douglas Locklear?
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MR. DOUGLAS LOCKLEAR:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Here.
Robert Chavis?
Here.
Jan Lowery, here.
Brewington?
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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. DANIEL JONES:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Bill
Here.
Daniel Jones?
Here.
Anita Hammonds Blanks?
Here.
Terry Collins?
Present.
Frank Cooper?
Areatha
Patterson?
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MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
Here.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. SHELLEY STRICKLAND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. HOMER FIELDS:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Thank you.
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MR. JARROD LOWERY:
Mr. Speaker, I ask
Shelley Strickland?
Present.
William Maiden?
Here.
Homer Fields?
Here.
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that we -- Mr. Frank Cooper had obligations
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that tied him up as well, so I ask that we
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excuse him.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
Thank you.
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Any objections to any of these?
Thank you.
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Next on the agenda is the review and
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approval of the agenda.
I want to thank Ms.
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Belinda for getting -- working with us on the
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agenda and getting that out -- and trying to
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get it out to us in a very timely manner -- and
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we appreciate that.
Thank you.
Any motion?
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Mr. Speaker?
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Maiden.
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
I'd like to offer a
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motion that we received the review and approval
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of the agenda for tonight.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Do we have a second?
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MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
Second.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Robert seconds.
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All in favor, say aye.
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(The council voted.)
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Any no?
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Next is the review and approval of the May
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tribal council meeting minutes.
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motion, please?
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Thank you.
Can we have a
Mr. Speaker, I
make a motion that we approve the minutes.
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Second.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We have a motion and
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a second.
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All in favor, say aye.
(The council voted.)
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Any no?
Thank you.
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Next on the agenda is community comments,
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and according to my sheet here, we have no
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comments.
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Okay.
Next is committee reports -- our finance
chair, Ms. Janie McFarland.
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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
Mr. Speaker, I have
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one I'd like to introduce tonight.
It's
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CLLO-2014-0908-01 -- it's pertaining to the
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Fiscal Year 2014-2015 Lumbee Budget. Therefore,
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the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina reserves the
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right to amend and revise the budget as deemed
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appropriate to maintain a balanced budget.
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Okay.
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obesity -- is a budget -- it's a reinstatement
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for the cancer and obesity -- is effective for
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June 1, 2015, to May 29, 2016.
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two-year grant, and it's through North Carolina
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Health and Human Services.
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is for $240,000, and the total budget is for
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$240,000.
The first line item is for cancer and
This is a
The grant revenue
There's also another grant through
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Health and Human Services.
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grant, and SBIRT means Screening, Brief
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Intervention and Referral to Treatment.
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is to educate veterans about programs and
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resources available for them and their
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families.
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It's the SBIRT
This
That amount is $13,775.
The next line item is grant revenue
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carryover money.
There's an increase and a
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decrease amount.
The increases is $704,920.29,
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and expenses is in reference to rehabilitation
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and homeownership reconstruction.
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homeownership is $1,184,000, and that is to
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purchase an additional 32 mobile homes.
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there's a home ownership reconstruction -- the
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decrease is $1,184,00, and it's for the 32
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mobile homes.
And then the land purchase is
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$704,920.29.
Therefore, be it enacted by the
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Tribal Council of the Lumbee Tribe of North
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Carolina the following ordinance shall be cited
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as Fiscal Year 2014-2015 Lumbee Tribal Budget.
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And this motion is on the floor.
The
And
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Could we get a second
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for the committee report?
This motion is from
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the committee.
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Mr. Terry Collins?
Any questions, any comments?
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
I'd
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like to wake up the audience.
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them know that the 32 mobile homes that we've
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added is in addition with the 22 listed in the
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budget, so that would be 54 total that will be
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purchased.
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Hunt?
I'd like to let
Will that be in the next year, Mr.
Within the next 12 months?
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MR. TONY HUNT:
This year.
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
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MR. TONY HUNT:
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
This year?
Yes, sir.
Could you give us a
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list of the ones that's waiting for the next 60
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-- the next 54 to purchase these homes?
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MR. TONY HUNT:
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
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Yes, sir.
We can.
At the next housing
meeting?
MR. TONY HUNT:
Yes. We can do it at the
next housing meeting.
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Okay.
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
Mr. Speaker?
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Bobby.
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
Are we voting on this
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as one ordinance, or will it be broken up into
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parts?
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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
One.
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
Thank you.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Is everyone clear on
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that?
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Ms. Jan?
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That's what the committee's proposing.
MS. JAN LOWERY:
I will need to recuse
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myself for voting on the cancer and obesity
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grant and possibly the SBIRT for involvement in
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those grants.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
you, Ms. Jan.
Thank you.
Thank
Ms. Anita?
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker,
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this is concerning the line item in here,
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number 8100 -- Land Purchase for $704,920.29. I
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would like to amend this for removal of the
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purchase of land -- for that money to be used
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elsewhere in the budget -- for rehab or
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transitional housing or wherever else the
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council deems that it needs to be used -- a lot
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more than the purchase of 88 acres in the
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township of Pembroke -- because if this
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purchase is done, then everybody in the
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outlying districts -- you have stopped yourself
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from purchasing any land.
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people you have no need to buy anything else in
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your district -- they don't need anything else.
You're telling your
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So I move that we remove that line item from
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this ordinance and send that back to finance.
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
Do we need a second?
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We want to give our
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stenographer a chance to get that motion ready,
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and I would like to have it reread before we
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vote.
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Mr. Bobby?
MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
I'm just asking if
she needed a second for that motion.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Yes, sir.
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
Second.
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MS. BELINDA BREWINGTON:
Have her state it
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one more time to make sure it's how she wants
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it stated.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Would you repeat that
one more time?
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
I make a
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motion to amend this proposed amendment
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CLLO-2014-0908-01 -- to approve the ordinance,
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but to remove item 8100, Land Purchase for
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$704,920.29 -- that that item will be removed
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from this ordinance and sent back to council
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for that money to be budgeted elsewhere -- I'm
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sorry -- to the finance committee to be
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budgeted elsewhere.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We have a motion and
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a second.
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opportunity to repeat it, please.
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help everybody be clear on what we are
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discussing here.
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If we would give Ms. Belinda an
That would
Ms. Belinda?
MS. BELINDA BREWINGTON:
We want to amend
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proposed amendment CLLO-0908-01 -- to approve
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the ordinance -- to remove the 8100 and send
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back to the finance to be budgeted elsewhere.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
Mr. --
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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Two questions
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concerning this finance ordinance.
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there was a grant that you received for the
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veterans.
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to approve that?
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That is not in here?
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Yes.
Ms. Jan,
We don't need
That is in here in
the SBIRT.
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Okay.
Second, I
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don't think that Ms. Anita can make a motion to
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-- she can make a motion to remove it, but she
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can't make a motion to send it to finance to
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have it rebudgeted elsewhere.
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different things.
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to the council.
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committee, and the committee decides, but you
That's two
It would have to come back
You can send it back to
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can't make a motion to send it back to
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committee and have them to budget it elsewhere.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay, Ms. Anita.
Would you like to restate?
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker, I
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will restate that motion.
I make a motion to
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approve this ordinance with the deletion of
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line item 8100, the Land Purchase for
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$704,920.29 -- for that item to be removed --
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for the council to, at a later date, rebudget
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that money.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Mr. Speaker?
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We will be speaking
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as soon as Ms. Belinda reads it to us -- we
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will be speaking to the motion.
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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Mr. Speaker.
Point
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of order.
Ms. Anita, I think that your
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amendments can state that we can remove this
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item, but for you to mandate to the council
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what to do, I think that's going beyond our
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rules of order code.
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with you making a motion -- there's nothing
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wrong with you making a motion to delete that
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item, but then to dictate to the council what
There's nothing wrong
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they must do with it, I think that's going a
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little too far.
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker?
Ms. Anita.
I will further
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make a motion to approve this ordinance with
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the deletion of line 8100, Land Purchase, in
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the amount of $740,920.29, period.
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MS. BELINDA BREWINGTON:
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To approve the
ordinance with the deletion -- to move?
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
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Remove.
To approve the
ordinance with the deletion of that item.
MS. BELINDA BREWINGTON:
To approve the
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ordinance with the deletion of the line item
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8100, Land Purchase, $704,920.29?
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Yes.
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MS. BELINDA BREWINGTON:
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Period.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We have a
Period?
Okay.
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motion and a second.
If you'd like to speak to
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it, please, if you would, members of the
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council, speak only once until everyone's had
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an opportunity to speak, please -- and speak
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loudly so the stenographer and Ms. Belinda can
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make sure we've got everything that is stated.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Terry?
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Mr. Speaker, I would like
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to make a substitute motion to leave it in
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there as is because we've been dealing with
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this forever and ever and ever.
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comes to a head -- make a substitute motion to
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keep it in as is tonight.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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motion to leave it as is.
It's time it
We have a substitute
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MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
I second that.
We have a second by
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Ms. Areatha -- to speak on the substitute
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motion.
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker?
Ms. Anita.
Because we've
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been dealing with this for a long time and
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certainly not a reason to vote for $704,000.00
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to pay for land -- surely we've got a better
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reason than that.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
Anyone else?
Are we ready to vote?
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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Call to question.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Call to question.
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The substitute motion is to just go with the
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original amendments and not to remove.
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We're going to do a roll call vote as long as
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the secretary is ready.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Okay.
Okay.
Evan Davenport?
Terry Hunt?
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MR. TERRY HUNT:
Yes.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Janie Oxendine McFarland?
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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Pass.
Lesaundri Hunt?
No.
Alton Locklear?
Point of order.
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We're voting to remove it or to leave it here?
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I'm more confused.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
The substitute motion
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-- Ms. Belinda, would you read the substitute
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motion?
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MS. BELINDA BREWINGTON:
It's to leave as
is.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Ms. -- to the
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councilmen, Ms. Belinda's motion -- Ms. Anita's
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motion was to remove the line item, Land
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Purchase.
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substitute motion was to not delete it -- not
Mr. Hunt's motion or call for a
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remove it, but to leave the amendment or the
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ordinance as it is.
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Any questions?
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
We'll come back --
pass.
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Jonathan Locklear?
Bobby
Oxendine?
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
No, against.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Did you say no?
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
(Nonverbal response.)
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. JARROD LOWERY:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. DOUGLAS LOCKLEAR:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
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order.
Jarrod Lowery?
Yes.
Douglas Locklear?
Yes.
Robert Chavis?
No.
Jan Lowery, yes.
Point of
You can't vote on this.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Bill Brewington?
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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. DANIEL JONES:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Yes.
Daniel Jones?
Yes.
Anita Hammonds Blanks?
No.
Terry Collins?
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Yes.
Frank Cooper?
Patterson?
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MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. SHELLEY STRICKLAND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. HOMER FIELDS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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No.
Homer Fields?
No.
Alton Locklear, we need
to go back to you.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Yes.
Is there anyone else?
Janie?
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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Yes.
William Maiden.
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
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Yes.
Shelley Strickland?
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Areatha
No.
I have nine yes and seven
no.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
The substitute
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motion passed.
The substitute motion was to
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leave as is.
Now we'd like to read the motion
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-- the land budget as Ms. Janie McFarland read
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in the beginning.
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reread the entire thing?
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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Would you like for her to
Point of order.
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That takes care of that.
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takes care of that, so we don't have to go back
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to it.
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thing that her motion says.
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on the same thing twice.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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that?
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The substitute motion
The substitute motion says the same
We will be voting
Is everyone clear on
Okay.
Next thing on our agenda is housing.
Mr. Terry Collins?
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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Aren't we supposed to
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vote on the ordinance now?
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leave it in there, we didn't vote on passing
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it.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We just voted to
According to the
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parliamentarian, when Mr. Hunt's substitute
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motion was to leave it as is, we left it as is.
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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
I was under the
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impression the vote was to leave it in there
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and come back and vote on the total ordinance.
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So that vote -- we just voted for everything?
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Any questions for the
parliamentarian?
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Mr. Speaker, Mr.
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Alton, when he put his substitute motion in
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motion, he actually said go back to the
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original motion because there was no change in
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the substitute motion.
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substitute motion, there has to be a change,
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and there was no actual change in voting on
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what she presented.
In order to have a
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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Thank you.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Terry Collins,
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housing.
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Yeah, Mr. Speaker.
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With line item CLLR-2015-0618 -- this is a lot
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in Pine Crest Golf Course.
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needs a resolution -- a resolution on a loan to
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build a house on that lot.
14
information that the house is sold; is that
15
right?
16
MR. TONY HUNT:
17
an applicant for that.
18
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
The administration
And it's my
Yes, sir.
We already have
All right.
So we need
19
to vote on purchasing the loan for this house.
20
Any questions?
21
they have a lot for the house.
22
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
The house is not built, but
We'd like to ask that
23
no recording videos be done before the council.
24
This is a rule that the council made several
25
years ago, so if you would, we'd appreciate
20
1
that.
2
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Any questions?
3
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Any questions?
We
4
have a housing motion, we need a second.
5
have any questions on the construction and the
6
land loan?
7
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
8
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
9
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Do we
Mr. Speaker?
Ms. Anita.
There's a
10
section in here, and it's the one, two, three,
11
four, fifth, -- no, it's the third paragraph.
12
It says, "Whereas, the Lumbee Tribe of North
13
Carolina has established a Tribal
14
Government-to-Government relationship with the
15
State of North Carolina and the United States
16
Federal Government."
17
it?
18
relationship with the federal government?
19
That's not correct, is
We have a government-to-government
MS. TAMMY MAYNOR:
You have a
20
federal-to-federal relationship with HUD, with
21
HHS -- you enjoy that freedom.
22
relationship with the federal agencies --
23
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
24
federally recognized?
25
MS. TAMMY MAYNOR:
You have a
So we are
We -- I -- you know,
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that's the thing, some feel like we are, some
2
don't.
3
4
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
That's what
we're saying here.
5
MS. TAMMY MAYNOR:
You do have a
6
relationship with the federal government.
7
enjoy that when we are able to receive federal
8
funds from HHS and from HUD -- or from Justice.
9
We receive Department of Justice grants as
10
well.
11
MR. TONY HUNT:
We
We're just stating that we
12
have a relationship to do business with them --
13
not that they recognize us -- not that the
14
federal government recognizes us as a
15
federally-recognized tribe.
16
relationship --
17
It's a
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Let me ask you
18
this.
19
program?
20
typically, a pilot program means there is going
21
to be more.
22
We're saying that this is a pilot
Is this -- so apparently --
Is that the plan?
MR. TONY HUNT:
If we can get folks that
23
would be qualified for it, yes, ma'am, we
24
would.
25
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
But do we have
22
1
2
funding?
MR. TONY HUNT:
This money -- we're doing
3
a land and construction loan directly from the
4
bank, and then what will happen is that money
5
will be paid back directly to the bank as the
6
homeowner pays the loan back.
7
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
So in the
8
future from this pilot program, we will not go
9
out and use our money to purchase the land
10
prior to having a situation where somebody's
11
qualified to -- for us to go in the bank and
12
borrow money; is that what we're saying?
13
MR. TONY HUNT:
14
your question.
15
anybody land?
16
I really don't understand
You said we wouldn't go buy
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Are we going
17
to go out and buy land and then build --for
18
people to build houses on?
19
MR. TONY HUNT:
No, ma'am.
I don't
20
foresee us doing that unless we have someone
21
that's qualified, and then we could purchase
22
the land -- and if we did a model like this, we
23
would do the loan and the land purchase
24
together.
25
-- what we're doing here is something that we
But we have to understand that this
23
1
haven't done before like this.
2
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
3
else have any questions?
4
MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
Okay.
Does anyone
Mr. Bobby?
Mr. Hunt, we have
5
this person who is interested in buying a home
6
in Pine Crest.
7
us?
8
whatever -- get their own loan, build their own
9
home in Pine Crest?
10
through the Lumbee Tribe for us to put up or be
11
the frontman for a loan?
12
can't afford it on their own and they fail,
13
then we're stuck with another loan.
14
Why do they need to go through
Why don't they go through Lumbee Bank or
Why do they need to come
MR. TONY HUNT:
If they fail, if they
If I'm correct, Mr. Bobby,
15
this is a family that, because their income
16
level, they're above the income -- right above
17
the income for being able to qualify for our
18
new construction.
19
they may have some sort of -- have a -- one
20
issue with their credit, and it may not be a
21
big issue, but it's an issue that the bank
22
would not deal with.
23
do here with this pilot program is start
24
helping some folks that kind of fall out of the
25
range for our construction and to help these
And the thing of it is that
So what we're trying to
24
1
people as the tribe is trying to spread out and
2
help more people and our members that are in
3
need that fall in those loopholes -- that they
4
can't get a loan for themselves, but they can't
5
qualify for a program either.
6
we're doing here.
7
was a pilot program.
So that's what
That's the reason we said it
8
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Anyone?
Mr. Bobby?
9
MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
Excuse me, Mr. Tony,
10
but why did we purchase land down there to
11
begin with -- to build a house to help somebody
12
like that -- you know, who couldn't afford this
13
and couldn't afford that.
14
land somewhere else and build a house instead
15
of in Pine Crest?
16
a lot of people the past few months because of
17
buying that land down there?
18
didn't appreciate you spending tribe money like
19
that.
20
Thank you.
Why don't we find
You know what that's telling
So I don't think we should do that.
21
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
22
had three to speak against.
23
Anyone?
24
25
You know they
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Okay.
I think we've
Is anybody for it?
Mr. Speaker, I'd
like for you to -- we talked about this in the
25
1
finance meeting the other night -- we got some
2
information before the whole council didn't get
3
-- is this in any way going to affect the
4
services we've got going on for our present
5
programs?
Would it take away -- defer
6
anything?
Would anybody be penalized from our
7
rehab or energy assistance, or is this
8
additional?
9
I think the point here is people are thinking
10
that it's going, this $240,000, is to be taken
11
away from some type of member.
12
little more detail with that.
13
Please, comment on that because --
MR. TONY HUNT:
We need a
No, sir, it's not.
The
14
money that is going to be used is a loan, and
15
what it will do -- it'll take the land and
16
construction loan together.
17
of the money that was billed to purchase the
18
land, and it wouldn't affect anybody that's
19
under the new construction.
20
coming out of any of the housing budget -- like
21
it or any of those other programs.
22
money will not affect any of the other programs
23
that we're running.
24
program that we're trying to look at and see if
25
it will be successful, and if it is successful,
It will take care
There's no monies
So this
Like we said, it's a pilot
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then that will be something that we'll bring
2
back to the council to see if it's something
3
that you do want to do further and maybe build
4
upon what we've done here.
5
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Terry?
6
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Mr. Tony, this is like
7
a contract to build a presale.
8
make a profit?
9
MR. TONY HUNT:
Will the tribe
I don't think that we're
10
doing anything to make a profit off of this.
11
It's the interest -- whatever the bank charges,
12
and then it will be paid back.
13
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
14
the to the topic in the $35 --
15
MR. TONY HUNT:
16
we'll get that back.
But the tribe will get
Yeah.
We'll get that,
17
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Okay, okay.
18
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Lowery?
19
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
Mr. Speaker, thank
20
you.
So reading the ordinance here, it says
21
that -- give me one second -- reading the
22
ordinance here it says that for individuals who
23
-- exceeding the HUD income guidelines for
24
NAHASDA yet are not qualified for a mortgage.
25
So in this country we have a situation where
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1
the rich are taken care of, and the poor are
2
taken care of, but the working man in the
3
middle can't get any services from any
4
government agency because they're not poor
5
enough -- and so that's the way I see it.
6
here's another program for individuals who are
7
actually out there working, and you know, they
8
can't get help from anywhere else because
9
they're not poor enough, and the bank's not
10
going to help or give them a mortgage because
11
they're not rich enough.
12
have a lot of people in all our communities
13
stuck in this section -- that are in that group
14
of people -- that if we have a pilot program
15
which is what I see -- if we can get our
16
members help and build up this program, I don't
17
see why we don't do it, I don't see why not.
18
see no reason to continue to deny any one of
19
our members services because they're not poor
20
enough. So why can't we have a pilot program to
21
see if this works?
22
could put it in other districts all over our
23
county -- but we have to start somewhere.
24
can the place be debated?
25
least have a pilot and see if it works -- help
This
So I think that we
I
And if it works here, we
Sure.
Now,
Why not at
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1
those that need help regardless of how much
2
money they make.
3
4
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Terry, were you
speaking in favor.
5
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Yeah.
Yes, I was.
6
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
So we have
7
three no and three in favor.
8
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Mr. Tony?
Point of order. Mr.
9
Speaker, I just got a signal from our
10
stenographer.
11
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
12
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
Folks in the
13
audience to restrain -- folks in the audience,
14
you have to restrain from talking because she's
15
like a recorder at the courthouse.
16
noise in the background, she can't pick our
17
voices up, and she just signaled me -- she
18
cannot understand nothing with you talking in
19
the background.
20
We want to conduct our meetings in an orderly
21
manner so she can record it in a orderly
22
manner. So, audience, we ask you to restrain
23
from talking.
If there's
So we just ask you be polite.
24
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
25
MR. TONY HUNT:
Mr. Tony?
That's all that was -29
1
that's all I was pointing out.
2
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
Mr. Speaker,
3
can we -- and this is concerning the document,
4
not the action that's taking place on -- but
5
this is a resolution that's supposed to be for
6
the bank so that the tribe can go borrow money,
7
but it's a bit vague.
8
we -- that the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina
9
Housing Department request to purchase and
10
construct a new home on a lot of land in the
11
Pine Crest subdivision.
12
-- we have the specifics.
13
to put in the specific lot information -- not
14
just put on a lot of land?
15
document, it's going to the bank.
16
going to have that lot information on
17
everything that they have.
18
specific on our resolution.
19
MR. TONY HUNT:
20
that, Mr. Speaker.
21
It says that you -- that
I know we have a lot
Could we amend this
It's a legal
The bank's
We should be more
We have no problem with
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Tony, if I may,
22
-- and as the speaker, I try not to say
23
anything that's going to sway the vote in any
24
way.
25
or anything of what might happen prior to this?
The folks haven't been given any promises
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MR. TONY HUNT:
You know, we dealt with
2
them just like we would deal with any other
3
applicant that comes to us.
4
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
5
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker?
6
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Terry.
7
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Mr. Hunt, so they
8
could just -- after the house is finished, just
9
change their mind?
10
11
Or would you do a contract?
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
We would do a
contract with them.
12
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
13
pay earnest money?
14
MR. TONY HUNT:
15
they'd pay earnest money.
16
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
17
No.
Would they have to
No, sir.
Okay.
I don't think
Mr. Alton and
then we'll proceed.
18
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Question, they have a
19
contract at this point now that we are
20
partnering with them to build a home -- and
21
that we're pretty much like cosigners on the
22
loan?
23
MR. TONY HUNT:
Yes, sir.
24
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
25
MR. TONY HUNT:
Correct?
Yes, sir.
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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
And this is the
2
property that was purchased by the tribe back
3
in 2012?
4
MR. TONY HUNT:
Something like that.
5
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
So if we don't do
6
something, we're going to be holding on to this
7
property that everybody has complained about
8
that we bought.
9
these people a chance to build this house and
10
move on?
11
takes care of the complaints.
12
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
So why don't we just give
It takes care of the property, it
All right.
We're
13
ready to vote.
We're going to do a roll call
14
vote, please.
Is anyone -- is everyone aware
15
of what we're voting for?
16
vote?
17
Any questions on the
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Let's read it again,
18
and let's make it very clear since it was not
19
clear the last time.
20
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
Mr. Collins,
Okay.
Whereas, The
21
would you like to read it?
22
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
23
Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina is a recognized
24
American Indian Tribe of the State of North
25
Carolina, subject to the Constitution of the
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1
Lumbee Tribe -- the Tribal Constitution and its
2
inherent powers and self-government, and;
3
Section 1 of the Constitution delegates
4
all administrative authority to the Tribal
5
Constitution Chairperson of the Lumbee Tribe of
6
North Carolina;
7
Whereas, The Lumbee Tribe of North
8
Carolina has established a Tribal
9
Government-to-Government relationships with the
10
State of North Carolina and the United States
11
Federal Government;
12
Whereas, The Lumbee Tribe of North
13
Carolina promotes tribal welfare by providing
14
affordable housing, creating safe and healthy
15
environments and promoting self-determination,
16
and;
17
Whereas, The Lumbee Tribe of North
18
Carolina Housing Department would like to pilot
19
a new program where homeowners that exceed the
20
HUD income guidelines for NAHASDA; yet are not
21
qualified for a mortgage, would have an
22
opportunity to own a new home.
23
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
24
25
Okay.
Roll call
vote, please.
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Homer Fields?
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MR. HOMER FIELDS:
2
MS. JAN LOWERY:
3
MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
4
MS. JAN LOWERY:
5
MR. SHELLEY STRICKLAND:
6
MS. JAN LOWERY:
7
MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
8
MS. JAN LOWERY:
9
Yes.
William Maiden?
Yes.
Shelley Strickland?
Yes.
Areatha Patterson?
Yes.
Frank Cooper?
Collins?
10
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
11
MS. JAN LOWERY:
12
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
13
MS. JAN LOWERY:
14
MR. DANIEL JONES:
15
MS. JAN LOWERY:
16
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
17
MS. JAN LOWERY:
18
Terry
Yes.
Anita Hammonds Blanks?
Yes.
Daniel Jones?
Yes.
Bill Brewington?
Yes.
Jan Lowery, yes.
Robert
Chavis?
19
MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
Yes.
20
MS. JAN LOWERY:
21
MR. DOUGLAS LOCKLEAR:
22
MS. JAN LOWERY:
23
MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
24
MS. JAN LOWERY:
25
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
Doug Locklear?
Yes.
Larry Townsend?
Yes.
Jarrod Lowery?
Yes.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
2
MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
3
MS. JAN LOWERY:
4
Bobby Oxendine?
No.
Jonathan Locklear?
Locklear?
5
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
6
MS. JAN LOWERY:
7
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
8
MS. JAN LOWERY:
9
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
10
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Terry Hunt?
11
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Yes.
12
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Evan Davenport?
13
14
15
16
17
18
Alton
Yes.
Lesaundri Hunt?
No.
Janie Oxendine McFarland?
Yes.
Sixteen,
yes.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
And the motion
carries.
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, that's
all I have.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Thank you, Mr.
19
Collins.
And Mr. Collins, if you would, repeat
20
the home purchases that will be done this year.
21
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Okay.
22
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Thank you.
23
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
The tribe usually
24
budgets 22 a year.
The -- okay, finance -- Ms.
25
McFarland found -- how much?
A quarter -35
1
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
One quarter --
2
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
1.2 -- she found some
3
money, and we put it in mobile home replacement
4
-- enough to buy an additional 32 mobile homes.
5
So instead of buying 22, we're going to be
6
buying 54 mobile homes.
7
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
And the
8
administrator did tell us the other night that
9
it's going to take a little bit of time to get
10
all of this done, so it won't happen in the
11
next 30 days, but it will hopefully make 54
12
people a good Christmas present.
13
Okay.
Next on our agenda is the tribal
14
administrator's report.
15
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Mr. Tony, since we
16
didn't get a chance to speak first, -- since we
17
already purchased this land, what are we
18
exactly going to do with this property?
19
MR. TONY HUNT:
Mr. Alton, one of the
20
things that we're looking at doing that's in
21
the early stages of -- of the preliminary
22
stages of the new market tax credit is that the
23
Lumbee Tribal Council is -- would like to apply
24
for a low-income housing tax credit project.
25
This would allow us to construct single-family
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1
homes with veterans preference.
2
a community facility on-site with a variety of
3
services for behavioral health, diabetes
4
prevention, and other programs to be provided.
5
The homes on this site could be a combination
6
of transitional houses or permanent housing,
7
depending on the need of those families.
8
we're looking at developing a project to where
9
folks can come in and get the counseling that
10
they need and also provide an opportunity for
11
their families to be there as a part of it
12
also. That's what were looking at, and we need
13
to understand too that with the amount of land
14
that we're buying,-- we're not sure, but there
15
is a great possibility that we can actually
16
maybe do two projects on the property that we
17
have -- because we have the infrastructure --
18
you know, the water and the sewer.
19
be able to do another project also.
20
21
22
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
There would be
So
So we may
And now that, if I'm
correct, it's subject to council approval?
MR. TONY HUNT:
Yes.
We would bring all
23
that back to you.
Once we apply for the new
24
market tax credits, and once they're in the
25
point of being approved, then we would bring
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1
the whole program back to you, back to the
2
council.
3
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Thank you.
4
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Tony, this was in
5
the IHP last year?
6
MR. TONY HUNT:
7
In the Indian Housing
Plan?
8
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
9
MR. TONY HUNT:
10
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Is that correct?
Yes, it was.
Okay.
And for the
11
public's information, the council has been told
12
the information Mr. Hunt just shared with you
13
-- that we'd like for you to have the knowledge
14
of what the plan was.
15
Collins?
16
Okay.
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Mr. Terry
Mr. Administrator, you
17
probably didn't have anything to do with it,
18
but people's getting tired of everything going
19
to Pembroke.
20
stuff out.
21
Pembroke's got a Wal-Mart, Lumberton's got a
22
Wal-Mart.
23
County's got a Wal-Mart.
So are we going to
24
start sharing the wealth?
Thank you, sir.
25
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We got to start spreading this
Red Springs is got a Wal-Mart,
Hoke, Scotland, and Cumberland
Okay.
Mr. Hunt?
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MR. TONY HUNT:
Yes, sir.
Just a few
2
announcements, and then Mr. Strickland's going
3
to come and give us our powwow report we'd told
4
you that we'd have ready.
5
First, I want to pass on to the council is
6
the State of the Tribe address by Chairman
7
Brooks will be on the seventh of July at six
8
o'clock at the Boys and Girls Club right here
9
in Pembroke, and that's in conjunction with a
10
homeowner appreciation day also.
11
The next item is our Senior Ms. Lumbee
12
pageant.
That is the 29th of June at 6:00 p.m.
13
at the Robeson Community College.
14
envelope that we'll put your tickets in -- and
15
there's two tickets, one for you, and one for
16
your spouse or significant other.
We have an
17
The third thing is that Pembroke Senior
18
Village on Candy Park Road -- the grand opening
19
will be on the 14th of August at 11:00 a.m.,
20
and that will be on-site -- and I would also
21
like to inform the council that we've already
22
qualified at least the first ten families that
23
are going into the apartments.
24
started working with those applicants, getting
25
them qualified, and approving them to go ahead
So they've
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1
and letting them go into the apartments.
2
The fourth thing I'd like to say is that
3
our Boys and Girls Club summer camp is going
4
well.
5
session is 76.
6
Boys and Girls Club is 176.
7
Hoke County Boys and Girls Club has 64
8
enrolled, and Southern Spirit has 85 enrolled.
9
We have the enrollments.
The first
The enrollment in the Pembroke
Hawk Eye up in
We'd also like to say that on your desk
10
you have a flier.
11
the grant that Ms. Jan had been working on.
12
Our Veterans Conversation is what it's called.
13
We'll meet here on Friday, June 26th at
14
11:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. here at the Pembroke
15
Boys and Girls Club.
16
and look at it, you can let veterans know in
17
the community -- and we're advertising and
18
letting veterans know by putting the fliers out
19
all over the service area and different
20
government agencies to let veterans know so
21
that they can come.
22
This is in conjunction with
If you'll take that flier
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
Excuse me, Mr. Tony.
23
We did discuss this flier at the finance
24
meeting.
25
important and significant changes that needed
I'm just guessing -- there's some
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to be made on the flier as directed more to the
2
Lumbee veterans; is that correct?
3
going to change that?
4
MR. TONY HUNT:
5
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
6
That change was made, yes.
No.
It's still on
the flier.
7
8
Were we
MR. TONY HUNT:
Okay.
You got the wrong
one then.
9
MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
10
MR. TONY HUNT:
Okay.
Thank you.
I'm sorry about that.
11
did make the change that was supposed to be
12
made.
13
14
We
At this time, we have the powwow report by
Mr. Gary Strickland.
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MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
Good evening,
16
Mr. Speaker, council members.
17
of the Spring Moon Powwow that was held at the
18
Southeastern Farmers Market the first weekend
19
in May -- it was really good time.
20
lot of compliments, had a lot of drum groups
21
who said they would be back next year.
22
attendance, there was 5,114 people that came
23
through the gates -- that was collected
24
through.
Dancers who attended and registered
25
was 470.
A lot of dancers still coming to the
The 2015 Dance
We got a
In
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powwow do not register and still participate.
2
Drum groups -- we had 12 including the two host
3
drums.
4
food venders.
5
to give information about the program -- we had
6
eight different service groups to come in.
7
raised, advertising wise, $34,100.
8
We had 53 venders, five of those being
Service groups that came into --
We
And through the gate, we brought in
9
$23,924.31.
These numbers -- the dollar is
10
down from last year.
11
we had a couple of things going on in the
12
county, in the region, and several proms going
13
on that Friday night.
14
that had been rescheduled for tomorrow night
15
for another program in Fairmont.
16
number less in attendance this year from last
17
year was 636 people -- that makes up the
18
difference on the gain.
19
close to the amount of money.
20
more participants in the school day that was
21
held on Friday also -- and we're working on
22
some things for the 2016 and 2017 powwow.
23
at this time, we also listened to the -- some
24
of the council representatives that we had in
25
attendance.
We advertised well, but
There was a rain day
The total
Our drinks -- very
We actually had
And
Next year, we're going to make
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sure that a council representatives is on the
2
powwow committee, and we'll be making some
3
other changes from there also.
4
time, I'm open to any questions you may have.
5
MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
6
THE WITNESS:
7
MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
And at this
Mr. Speaker?
Yes, Mr. Maiden.
I'd just like to say
8
thank you, Mr. Gary, for this powwow report,
9
but it is not sufficient.
10
would like to see handouts with income and
11
expenses so that we can look at the numbers and
12
compare them for ourselves.
13
for a volunteer for the powwow committee for
14
next year, my hand is up in the air right here
15
(indicating).
We need handouts.
And if you looking
16
MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
I appreciate that.
17
MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
I'd like to see a
18
written report just like all the other reports
19
that we've been getting.
20
MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
21
22
23
24
25
I
We'll have one ready
at the next full council meeting.
MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
I thought that was
going to be available to us now.
MR. TONY HUNT:
We can't do the expense
items because we still have outstanding bills
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that we're closing out on.
2
reason we didn't do a comparison of what was
3
made minus the expenses.
4
all those numbers, we'll bring that back to
5
you.
6
bills that we had for the powwow -- so all of
7
the expenses.
8
9
So that's the
So as soon as we get
But we have not closed out all of the
MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
Any further
questions?
10
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Mr. Strickland, I
11
think we need to think about moving the powwow
12
to the culture center.
13
tickets.
14
I think we'll get more
MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
I know that is
15
something that we're going to try to put in
16
place hopefully by the 2017 Dance of the Spring
17
Moon powwow, and that's what I can say at this
18
time.
19
funding we have for the culture center to get
20
it in place and have everything to where we can
21
handle a crowd of 5,000 plus to come in. I know
22
we've been talking to the vendors at this
23
year's powwow, and that's what they want also.
24
Talking to a lot of the people, that's what
25
they want also, but we want to make sure that
We can't -- depending on what kind of
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we have a product -- that's a good product out
2
there that we can show off at the same time --
3
nothing that we can come in and something
4
that's half done.
5
dealt with a lot of times in the past, we've
6
had projects that we're trying to put together
7
-- piecing it all together.
8
the cultural center up to the standards of this
9
council and the Chairman.
10
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
One of the things that we've
We want to have
Mr. Speaker, I agree
11
too what Mr. Terry said, and I solicit that
12
this council consider making a resolution --
13
and we have 2016 at the culture center.
14
it's there, I'm like Mr. Maiden, and I
15
volunteer to serve on the committee -- but we
16
can't wait nine months and then say well, we
17
can't do it at the culture center.
18
to do it at the culture center, we need to
19
start planning now.
20
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
21
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
And if
If we were
Right.
And if it's
22
feasible, or if you have any questions, I'll be
23
glad to sit down with you and show you how.
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MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
Any other questions?
Yes, Mr. Douglas?
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MR. DOUGLAS LOCKLEAR:
I have one question
2
only -- one issues, one problem.
3
not have drinks outside in the food court
4
area -- but we had drinks inside the building,
5
and I seen folks eating and wouldn't be able to
6
go in and purchase one -- I was one myself and
7
my family.
Why did we
8
MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
9
tried to do is alleviate that.
10
signs directing people where the drinks were.
11
We were doing a lot of teas and liquids and
12
things of that nature.
13
but you have a lot of equipment that's
14
involved, and we like to have that locked up at
15
night so that somebody cannot come in and
16
disturb that.
17
a lot of time, effort, and energy.
18
something -- if we have it at the culture
19
center, we won't be able to have it in the
20
building in any way, form, or fashion.
21
that's something we'll do -- definitely take
22
into account.
23
council members on it -- we'll bring that --
24
try that.
25
Well, one thing we
We had a lot of
Having a tent is good,
Moving them back and forth takes
It's
So
The committee will also have
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Strickland, I
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think that also the mat was a good addition to
2
the floor.
3
MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
Yeah.
4
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
I know a lot, a lot
5
of the dancers appreciated it -- and folks with
6
breathing problems with dust and all that.
7
MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
I can't take credit
8
for that, Mr. Speaker.
9
with that idea at the very last minute, but I
10
received quite a few Facebook messages that
11
were very appreciative of their legs not
12
killing them at the end of the day.
13
going to try to do a lot with that arena -- it
14
was very good, and we want to add to that and
15
make it a little bit bigger -- because after we
16
had set up the arena, we want to make that one
17
of the first things that we put in place so
18
that we can put the arena around it.
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20
21
22
23
24
25
Jon Oxendine came up
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
questions or comments?
Okay.
And we're
Any other
Thank you.
MR. GARY STRICKLAND:
Thank you, Mr
Speaker.
MR. TONY HUNT:
That's all I have, Mr.
Speaker.
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Next is the calendar
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review.
Everybody get out your calendars.
2
Chairmen of the committees, can we start with
3
you?
4
set a committee meeting?
5
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
Mr. Jarrod, will you -- if you'd like to
6
Speaker.
7
have a meeting in July.
8
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
9
Thank you, Mr.
At this time, my committee will not
Mr. Terry would like
to say something about T-shirt sales.
10
MR. TERRY HUNT:
We're trying to get ready
11
to have a T-shirt sale at the homecoming, and
12
graciously the Speaker has volunteered to help
13
us.
14
lead us further because I've never did it
15
before -- and Bobby, if he's able to -- to kind
16
of guide us over the telephone or something --
17
but the committee's going to have a short
18
meeting to set this up.
19
Speaker, for volunteering.
20
He's going to kind of take our hand and
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Thank you, Mr.
And we'd like to
21
thank Mr. Bobby for his work, and we appreciate
22
having him tonight.
23
physical problems, but he said he's going to do
24
his best to make it, and we're glad to have him
25
with us also.
He was having some
He may not feel like it -- if
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this heat don't change, that could take a toll
2
on a well person, much less someone having
3
problems.
4
something?
5
Mr. Bobby, would you like to say
MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
Yes, sir.
Thank you,
6
Mr. Speaker.
7
calls and messages, so thank you for your
8
concern.
9
something -- go back next week and possibly
10
surgery again.
11
during the Fourth celebrations, but I'm
12
available by phone, and I'll do what I can to
13
help you -- give some advice.
14
I appreciate everybody's phone
I had some surgery, and have
So I probably won't be with you
And I'd like to ask my co-chair of the
15
education committee if they would to set up a
16
date for the meeting -- and look at the next
17
council meeting for our education awards
18
program -- and I'll talk to Ms. Belinda about
19
that.
20
for next time, Mr. Speaker, and follow through
21
with that.
22
your phone calls, and everything that you've
23
done.
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25
But if we could put that on the agenda
Again, thank you for your concern,
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
And that would be
Mr.-- Mr. Terry Hunt.
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MR. TERRY HUNT:
Mr. Bobby, I'll be
calling upon you.
3
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
Thank you, Mr. Bobby,
4
for what you do for us all.
5
it's all right with the committee, I think that
6
Thursday, July 9th at 6:00 p.m. for the
7
education committee.
Mr. Speaker, if
8
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Repeat that, please.
9
MR. JARROD LOWERY:
Thursday, July 9th,
10
the education committee at six.
11
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
12
Education and culture.
13
Ms. Anita?
Thursday?
Okay.
Okay.
Anyone else?
14
MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
No.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Maiden?
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
No.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Ms. Jan?
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
19
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Ms. Janie?
20
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
Mr. Speaker, I'm
No.
21
going to hold off since the State of the Tribe
22
address is going to be on the 7th.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
She's going to hold
24
off setting a meeting since the Chairman's
25
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MR. ALTON LOCKLEAR:
We don't actually get
July off; is that correct, Ms. Janie?
3
MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
No.
4
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Mr. Terry?
5
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Yeah.
6
7
8
housing meeting on the 7th at 6:30.
MR. TONY HUNT:
Mr. Terry, we're have the
State of the Tribe address that evening.
9
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
10
MR. TONY HUNT:
11
MR. TERRY COLLINS:
12
Let's do it on the 9th.
13
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
14
15
Let's do a
Oh, I'm sorry.
We can make it the 6th.
Make it the 6th?
Housing following
education and culture on the 9th.
Okay.
We're not going to have our prayer
16
and benediction at this time.
17
William Maiden -- he's coming with LNTP, but I
18
would like to --
19
MR. SHELLEY STRICKLAND:
We have Mr.
Mr. Speaker, I
20
just want to let the council know -- and I
21
mentioned this a few months ago -- I would like
22
to see -- and I'll do a resolution form if I
23
have to -- have a powwow back in Scotland
24
County.
25
available, then maybe set a target date of next
If not this year, if no money's
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year.
2
possibility of a boys and girls club in
3
Scotland County.
4
education and culture meeting for more
5
information.
6
Also, I'd like to look at the
I'll be going to the
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
Right before
7
Mr. Maiden comes, we, the council, would like
8
to ask for a moment of silence for our former
9
tribal council chairman, Mr. Jimmy Goins.
10
died in an automobile accident -- and also, for
11
the former chairman, Mr. Milton Hunt.
12
also -- Mr. Brewington brought to my attention
13
the tragic incident in Charleston, South
14
Carolina, yesterday.
15
church and killed nine people.
16
would, we would like to ask everyone to stand
17
for a moment of silence for these individuals.
18
(A moment of silence was held.)
19
20
21
He
And we'd
Someone went into the
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
So, if you
Thank you.
Mr.
Maiden, if you would come, please.
MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Mr. Speaker, council
22
members.
I'd like to bring something before
23
you tonight to try to resolve.
24
issue with LNTP that we brought to you in the
25
early part of the year.
This is an
We had a couple of
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young men who came to us and asked permission
2
to use our 501(c) for the LNTP.
3
is here tonight, Mr. Anthony Miller.
4
for him to come forward to do a brief
5
discussion on what he's doing and what they're
6
looking to do, and then after that, we'll take
7
some questions from you that are here tonight.
8
Mr. Miller?
9
MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
The young man
Thank you.
We'd like
Please,
10
excuse me.
I'm severely dehydrated from
11
yesterday, so I'll try not to stand before you
12
long.
13
LIFE Foundation.
14
we want to do is be able to help people to pay
15
back their student loans.
16
things are set up now is people get
17
scholarships when they're in college.
18
have a lot of people that receive scholarships,
19
and if they don't graduate, then that money is
20
wasted.
21
idea of -- let's help people who have finished
22
school pay off their student loans -- because
23
we've talked to a lot of people who say, have a
24
bachelors degree and would love to go back to
25
school, but their student loans is dragging
Basically, I'm here representing the
The LIFE Foundation -- what
You know -- the way
Well, we
So me and another guy come up with
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them down -- it's pulling them down.
2
was what the LIFE Foundation's whole plan is
3
for.
4
So that
LIFE stands for Lumbee Indians Furthering
5
Education.
6
thing.
7
tribe, for the council, and for the individuals
8
in the community.
9
people who's willing to donate -- but the
10
biggest thing is they want to be able to use it
11
as a tax write off.
12
the council this evening asking if I can use
13
the council's help -- that we can make this a
14
successful program.
15
concerns?
16
And -- to me, it's just a good
It's just positive feedback for the
I've talked to a lot of
That's why I'm coming to
Any questions, any
MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Mr. Speaker, let me
17
just add to what Mr. Miller is bringing.
This
18
is a subject that we brought before the council
19
again earlier this year.
20
Mr. Tony and Ms. Tammy and asked them the
21
question of any setbacks in regards to these
22
gentlemen using our 501(c) number, and I would
23
like to ask Mr. Tony or Ms. Tammy, one of the
24
two, to explain anything that might take place
25
for them using our 501(c).
We went before
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MR. TONY HUNT:
Mr. Maiden, we did -- our
2
staff, look into the 501(c)(3), and the thing
3
that I would just let the council know is that
4
you can let anyone else use your 501(c)(3).
5
The thing about that is though is that any
6
reporting or anything that happens with that
7
501(c)(3), the applicant -- the holder of that
8
501(c)(3) number is responsible for it.
9
just have to be aware that you're responsible
10
for anyone up under you using your number for
11
activities that they're doing to make sure that
12
they're covered up under all of the statutes
13
that cover what you can use a 501(c)(3) number
14
for.
15
look at, and we did -- for as far as someone
16
else being under the umbrella of your number.
17
They can do that, but just to make you aware,
18
that the holder of the number, the LNTP, would
19
be responsible for making sure all the
20
information is filed -- and any activity taking
21
place up under it and making sure that it is
22
qualified up under the 501(c)(3) number.
23
So you
So that was what Mr. Maiden asked us to
MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
If I might add, these
24
young men first came back to us in December,
25
and again, what they're looking for -- they're
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going to private foundations or whoever and
2
they're seeking the donations.
3
costing you anything -- they're doing all the
4
work.
5
this program -- but they met with us back in
6
the December.
7
blessings.
8
shortly after the new year, and there was never
9
a vote taken on the matter -- there was some
10
discussion, and it was just left in the air.
11
Mr. Miller has come back to me and asked me has
12
the board made a decision.
13
the board, if you can tonight -- can we make a
14
decision on this matter for these young men so
15
that they can either proceed or not.
16
like to ask -- yes, Mr. Miller?
17
MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
That's not
They're out asking for the monies to do
The LNTP gave them our
We met with you council members
I would like for
I would
One more thing.
The
18
LIFE foundation -- meaning me and the other
19
guy, Byron Brooks -- we want to let you know we
20
will work hand-in-hand with this with full
21
transparency, you know.
22
every month and show you the numbers, and show
23
you whatever you want to see -- we just want to
24
let you know there's going to be full
25
transparency, and we're not here trying to do
If we have to come in
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anything sneaky or anything to that matter.
MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
And when this was
3
brought to us, there was a lot of discussion
4
about the future of the LNTP -- I think that
5
was the question.
6
that's still in limbo.
7
mixed feelings about whether that's going to
8
continue -- to sell the property we have -- the
9
life of that.
10
commit to these young fellows for something
11
that we couldn't carry through.
12
next question is, Mr. Miller, what would be the
13
time frame for you to get your own number?
14
that a possibility?
15
And personally, I feel like
You know, we've got
So I would just hate to see us
MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
And then my
Is
I think I looked it
16
up one time, and I think it was saying -- like
17
it was six weeks or six months that it would
18
take about getting a 501(c)(3) number.
19
I basically wanted to do is come through the
20
tribal council and see if I can use yours
21
because we can use this as an outlet.
22
know a variety of people that could help with
23
this program, and this is something that our
24
Lumbee people have needed for years -- a
25
scholarship program.
So what
Y'all
This is something that -57
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it's just good publicity all around.
It's just
2
something we should've been doing.
So that was
3
my idea with the whole thing.
4
partner with one another.
5
MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Let's just
And, Mr. Bill, to
6
your first question -- I don't see LNTP as
7
often.
8
even if we sell it, there's still LNTP.
9
still have Maxton, and I don't see that
10
resolving.
We've got the property up for sale, but
We
11
I would like to add about someone using a
12
501(c)(3) number -- a few years ago -- those of
13
you might not know, but I chair a Running
14
Waters Singers powwow in Fayetteville, North
15
Carolina, every year.
16
were applying for some scholarship funds for
17
some arts council grants, we asked the tribe
18
about using their 501(c) because we didn't have
19
one.
20
a grant.
21
they would prefer we use someone's 501(c) in
22
the county we were in.
23
willing to help me a while back.
24
same time, even now -- those of you may know
25
the Cumberland County Association for Indian
At one point, when we
They let us use their number to apply for
We were denied because they said that
So the tribe was
And at the
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People -- they allow us to use their 501(c)(3)
2
in order to apply for grants in Cumberland
3
County.
4
problems.
5
So we have faced that, and we had some
Mr. Terry?
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Mr. Miller, just a
6
question.
7
you'll request your own number, or are you
8
going to live off this one forever?
9
Is there some point in time when
MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
Well, I would like to
10
partner with you guys and go from there with
11
it.
12
me to get my own number, I would have no
13
problem doing that -- but I don't see getting
14
my own number if this can be successful.
15
16
Sometime later down the road, if you ask
MR. TERRY HUNT:
How can you help the
tribe?
17
MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
18
MR. TERRY HUNT:
19
20
It's good publicity.
I understand that, but
any other way you can help the tribe?
MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
Like I said, a
21
scholarship foundation is something that's been
22
needed.
23
particularly going to help you guys, but it's
24
something for the community.
25
We're not -- this is not going to
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Like I said, we could set
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up a tribal scholarship for the tribe or
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something.
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MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
Say that one more
time.
MR. TERRY HUNT:
Set up a scholarship for
the tribe.
MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
Well, this
scholarship foundation is for the tribe.
MR. TERRY HUNT:
This is to help tribal
members with their student loans?
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MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
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MR. TERRY HUNT:
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MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
Yes, yes.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
This is for
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tribal members.
And what we're looking at
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doing is -- if this is successful in the future
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-- if we can partner with companies and
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organizations, then the people that come to us
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to help pay off their loans -- we can then, in
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turn, talk to these companies and see if they
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have any positions available for these people
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who are unemployed.
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hand-in-hand -- we're helping them pay off
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their loans and find careers.
So it's just working
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MR. TERRY HUNT:
Thank you .
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Any other questions?
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If there aren't other questions, I would like
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to entertain a vote on this tonight if
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Is that feasible, Mr. Speaker?
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
I second.
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
So can we take a
MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Ms. Jan, would you
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like to?
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
to.
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I would like
If Ms. Jan would take a roll call vote.
MS. JAN LOWERY:
Okay.
And this motion
would?
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Allow the -- what's
the name?
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MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
The LIFE Foundation.
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
It would allow them
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Is there two council
members on that board?
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MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
Yes, sir.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Okay.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Evan Davenport?
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MR. TERRY HUNT:
Yes.
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
Janie Oxendine McFarland?
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Terry
Hunt?
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MS. JANIE MCFARLAND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Locklear?
Yes.
Lesaundri Hunt?
No.
Alton Locklear?
Bobby Oxendine?
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MR. BOBBY OXENDINE:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. JARROD LOWERY:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. LARRY TOWNSEND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. DOUGLAS LOCKLEAR:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. ROBERT CHAVIS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Yes.
Jarrod Lowery?
Yes.
Larry Townsend?
No.
Douglas Locklear?
Yes.
Robert Chavis?
Yes.
Jan Lowery, no. Bill
Brewington?
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MR. BILL BREWINGTON:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. DANIEL JONES:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MS. ANITA HAMMONDS BLANKS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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Jonathan
Yes.
Daniel Jones?
Yes.
Anita Hammonds Blanks?
Yes.
Terry Collins?
Yes.
Frank Cooper?
Areatha
Patterson?
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MS. AREATHA PATTERSON:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. SHELLEY STRICKLAND:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. HOMER FIELDS:
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MS. JAN LOWERY:
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Yes.
Shelley Strickland?
Yes.
William Maiden?
Yes.
Homer Fields?
No.
Motion carries.
If I might add,
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quarterly report or a monthly report?
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Quarterly report.
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Quarterly report.
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Mr. Anthony, let us know what's going on.
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MR. ANTHONY MILLER:
Thank you.
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MR. WILLIAM MAIDEN:
Thank you, Mr.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
Can we get a motion
to adjourn?
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MR. TERRY COLLINS:
Second that.
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MR. LESAUNDRI HUNT:
We usually don't have
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prayer.
Motion to adjourn.
We will close in
Mr. Bobby, would you close us in
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