Reply Brief — Libby Hilsenrath, on Behalf of Her Minor Child, C. H., Petitioner v. Chathams School District Board of Education
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NO.25-256
In the
Supreme Court of the United States
LIBBY HILSENRATH, ON BEHALF OF HER MINOR CHILD,
C. H.,
Petitioner,
v.
CHATHAMS SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF EDUCATION,
Respondents.
On Petition for Writ of Certiorari to the
United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
REPLY TO BRIEF IN OPPOSITION OF
RESPONDENT BOARD OF EDUCATION OF
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF THE CHATHAMS
Richard Thompson
Counsel of Record
Thomas More Law Center
24 Frank Lloyd Wright Drive
P.O. Box 393
Ann Arbor, MI 48106
Tel: (734) 827-2001
rthompson@thomasmore.org
Michael P. Hrycak
129 Beech Street
Cranford, NJ 07016
Counsel for Petitioner
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
TABLE OF AUTHORITIES ...................................... ii
ARGUMENT .............................................................. 1
I.
Specifying the proper test for
Establishment Clause claims relating
to school lessons that proselytize or
advance a specific religion over others is
critically important to ensure that
schools do not coerce children in ways
that undermine their religious beliefs........... 1
II.
Supreme Court guidance is necessary
because post-Kennedy there is broadbased confusion among the lower courts
as to the proper Establishment Clause
test (or tests) to apply. ................................... 6
III.
Given the overlap between the Religion
Clauses, Mahmoud clarifies the types of
coercive pressures that impermissibly
advance religious views that conflict
with the private beliefs of students and
their parents ................................................... 9
CONCLUSION ......................................................... 12
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TABLE OF AUTHORITIES
Cases:
Agostini v. Felton,
521 U.S. 203 (1997) ...................................... 4, 5, 7-9
American Legion v. American Humanist Ass’n,
588 U.S. 29 (2019) ...................................................5
Edwards v. Aguillard,
482 U.S. 578 (1987) ...................................... 1-10, 12
Epperson v. Arkansas,
393 U.S. 97 (1968) ....................................................5
Espinoza v. Montana Dept. of Revenue,
591 U.S. 464 (2020) ..................................................2
Firewalker-Fields v. Lee,
58 F.4th 104 (4th Cir. 2023) ....................................9
Hilsenrath v. Sch. Dist. of Chathams,
136 F.4th 484 (3d Cir. 2025) ...................... 4, 5, 7-10
Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran
Church & Sch. v. EEOC,
565 U.S. 171 (2012) ................................................10
Kennedy v. Bremerton Sch. Dist.,
597 U.S. 507 (2022) .................................. 1, 2, 4, 6-9
Lee v. Weisman,
505 U.S. 577 (1992) .................................... 1, 2, 4-12
Lemon v. Kurtzman,
411 U.S. 192 (1973) .......................................... 4, 6-9
Mahmoud v. Taylor,
606 U.S. 522 (2025) .................................... 1, 3, 9-12
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Morse v. Frederick,
551 U.S. 393 (2007) ..................................................2
Our Lady of Guadalupe Sch. v Morrissey-Berru,
591 U.S. 732 (2020) ..................................................1
Roake v. Brumley,
141 F.4th 614 (5th Cir. 2025) ..................................8
Roake v. Brumley,
154 F.4th 329 (5th Cir. 2025) ..................................8
Sch. Dist. of Abington Twp. v. Schempp,
374 U.S. 203 (1963) ..............................................2, 7
Shurtleff v. City of Boston,
596 U.S. 243 (2022) .............................................. 4-7
Stone v. Graham,
449 U.S. 39 (1980) ....................................................6
Town of Greece v. Galloway,
572 U.S. 565 (2014) .............................................. 5-7
Wisconsin v. Yoder,
406 U.S. 205 (1972) ..........................................10, 12
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ARGUMENT
The petition squarely presents an important
question that affects public schools and their students
across the Nation—whether, in the wake of Kennedy
v. Bremerton Sch. Dist., 597 U.S. 507 (2022), lessons
that proselytize or promote a specific religion violate
the Establishment Clause under Lee v. Weisman, 505
U.S. 577 (1992) and Edwards v. Aguillard, 482 U.S.
578 (1987) by advancing religious viewpoints that
contravene the religious beliefs of children and their
parents. Pet. at i-ii. Yet the Respondents never
address this critical issue, relying on cases that do not
involve public school students and minimizing the
implications of Mahmoud v. Taylor, 606 U.S. 522
(2025) on the government’s “duty to guard and respect
that sphere of inviolable conscience and belief” that
the Religion Clauses protect in the school setting.
Lee, 505 U.S. at 592.
I. Specifying the proper test for Establishment
Clause claims relating to school lessons that
proselytize or advance a specific religion
over others is critically important to ensure
that schools do not coerce children in ways
that undermine their religious beliefs.
This Court has repeatedly recognized that
“[r]eligious education is vital to many faiths practiced
in the United States.” Our Lady of Guadalupe Sch. v
Morrissey-Berru, 591 U.S. 732, 754 (2020). For many
believers, “the religious education of children is not
merely a preferred practice but rather a religious
obligation.” Mahmoud, 606 U.S. at 547. While some
parents “direct ‘the religious upbringing’ of their
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children” by “sending [them] to religious schools,”
Espinoza v. Montana Dept. of Revenue, 591 U.S. 464,
486 (2020) (citation omitted), financial concerns make
it so that many parents “have no choice but to send
their children to a public school.” Morse v. Frederick,
551 U.S. 393, 424 (2007) (Alito, J., concurring). For
these parents, it is all the more important that this
“Court has been particularly vigilant in monitoring
compliance with the Establishment Clause in
elementary and secondary schools.” Edwards, 482
U.S. at 583.
Not surprisingly, given the “complementary
purposes” of the Religion Clauses, Kennedy, 597 U.S.
at 533, this broad protection of the religious beliefs of
parents and children flows from both the
Establishment and Free Exercises Clauses. Sch. Dist.
of Abington Twp. v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203, 217 (1963)
(describing
“[t]he
interrelationship
of
the
Establishment and the Free Exercise Clauses”). The
Free Exercise Clause safeguards “the rights of parents
to direct ‘the religious upbringing’ of their children.”
Espinoza, 591 U.S. at 486 (citation omitted). Under
Edwards, the Establishment Clause protects the
same right of religious belief for parents and their
children. 482 U.S. at 584 (“Families entrust public
schools with the education of their children, but
condition their trust on the understanding that the
classroom will not purposely be used to advance
religious views that may conflict with the private
beliefs of the student and his or her family.”). And Lee
confirms that under the Establishment Clause the
State has a “duty to guard and respect that sphere of
inviolable conscience and belief which is the mark of a
free people.” 505 U.S. at 592.
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According to the District, there is no
Establishment Clause problem here because “[t]his
Court has long held that public schools may use
religious texts and teachings as part of an objective
secular program of education without violating [the
Establishment Clause].”
Brief in Opposition of
Respondent Board of Education of the School District
of the Chathams (“Response”) at 13.1 Contrary to the
District’s claim, this case raises a different and
unsettled issue: whether lessons that proselytize or
promote a religion that conflicts with a parent’s or
child’s religious beliefs violate the Establishment
Clause. Neither the Third Circuit nor the District
addressed this critical issue.2
1 The District’s suggestion that students were not required to
watch the “Intro to Islam” video, Response at 7-8, is
irreconcilable with the sworn testimony of their own officials.
Students were assigned the PowerPoints discussing Islam, and
the “Intro To Islam” slide directed students to “Watch this
video.” JA 416. In fact, part of the assignment directed students:
“[a]s you watch this video clip, write down words that describe
Islam as presented by this video.” Id. The Superintendent
acknowledged C.H. watched the videos because they were
assigned, JA 343-44, and that the content of the proselytizing
video JA 435 was not a factual presentation. JA 335-39, 368-69.
Google Classroom material was treated the same as in-class
work. JA 441 (WCG Class Materials/Resources); JA 424 (MENA
test guide); JA 322 (LaSusa Dep. 30:14-24); JA 381 (LaSusa/30b6
Dep 32:12-15); JA 171-172 (Maher Dep. 30:12-22, 34:5-18).
This Court granted review in Mahmoud even though the
LGBTQ+ curricular material was part of an objective, secular
literature program. Here, as in Mahmoud, the effect of lessons
that “advance religious views” and “conflict with the private
beliefs of the student and his or her family” is a critical national
issue. Edwards, 482 U.S. at 584.
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Having identified the wrong issue, the panel
compounded the problem by applying the wrong
Establishment Clause precedents, ignoring the cases
decided in the special context of public schools. In that
setting, Establishment Clause claims are governed by
Lee and Edwards, not Kennedy and Shurtleff v. City of
Boston, 596 U.S. 243 (2022). Yet neither the panel nor
the District mention, let alone discuss, Lee’s and
Edwards’s recognition that the Establishment Clause
prevents schools from “advanc[ing] religious views
that may conflict with the private beliefs of the
student and his or her family.” Edwards, 482 U.S. at
584.
Instead of relying on these school precedents, the
Hilsenrath majority treated Kennedy’s rejection of
Lemon and the endorsement test as license to fashion
a new “hallmarks” test, establishing its own unified
Establishment Clause standard. But Kennedy did not
overturn the numerous precedents that relied upon
Lemon. In fact, Kennedy cited Lee and Edwards
favorably, confirming their continued viability in the
school setting. Yet instead of following Lee and
Edwards, which emphasize the broad protection that
the Establishment Clause provides parents and
children who are concerned about the impact lessons
promoting a particular religion might have on their
“religious beliefs and worship,” Lee, 505 U.S. at 589,
the majority relied on Kennedy and Shurtleff, which
narrowed the government’s ability to invoke the
Establishment Clause to justify muzzling private
religious speech.
That was error. By indiscriminately applying its
hallmarks test to public schools, the Third Circuit
disregarded Agostini v. Felton’s directive to lower
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courts that “if a precedent of this Court has direct
application in a case, yet appears to rest on reasons
rejected in some other line of decisions, the Court of
Appeals should follow the case which directly controls,
leaving to this Court the prerogative of overruling its
own decisions.” 521 U.S. 203, 237 (1997).
Disregarding Agostini, the District contends that
“the benchmarks regarding establishment of religion
[discussed in Town of Greece, American Legion, and
Shurtleff] … apply identically in the public-school
context.”
Response at 11.
Lee and Edwards
demonstrate that this claim is wrong. Given the age
of students coupled with compulsory attendance,
“there are heightened concerns with protecting
freedom of conscience from subtle coercive pressure in
the elementary and secondary public schools.” Lee,
505 U.S. at 592; Edwards, 482 U.S. at 583 (“The Court
has been particularly vigilant in monitoring
compliance with the Establishment Clause in
elementary and secondary schools … [given that
s]tudents in such institutions are impressionable and
their attendance is involuntary.”). Contrary to the
Third Circuit’s and the District’s suggestions, in the
school context neither “direct evidence of coercion” nor
coerced participation in a formal religious exercise is
required for an Establishment Clause violation.
Hilsenrath v. Sch. Dist. of Chathams, 136 F.4th 484,
492 (3d Cir. 2025); Response at 11, 15.
As Epperson v. Arkansas explained, while a
secular study of religion is permissible, “[t]he State
may not adopt programs or practices in its public
schools … which ‘aid or oppose’ any religion.” 393 U.S.
97, 106 (1968). The video lessons on Islam do just
that, “aiding” Islam by proselytizing and expounding
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the virtues of the faith and its rich religious traditions.
Response at 7-8. The videos are also like the Ten
Commandments in Stone v. Graham in that, if the
videos (created by third parties, like UKIslam, see id.
at 8, that sought to promote and spread their Islamic
faith) “are to have any effect at all, it will be to induce
the schoolchildren to read, meditate upon, perhaps to
venerate and obey,” the teachings of Islam. 449 U.S.
39, 42 (1980). This is Hilsenrath’s concern, which
confirms that “families trust … that the classroom will
not purposely be used to advance religious views that
may conflict with the private beliefs of the student and
his or her family,” Edwards, 482 U.S. at 584, even
though no “formal religious exercise was taking place
in C.H.’s WCG class.” Response at 15.
Review is warranted, therefore, because whether
Kennedy and Shurtleff narrow the scope of
Establishment Clause protection under Lee and
Edwards is of great consequence to public schools
across the country as well as to the millions of parents
and children attending those schools.
II. Supreme Court guidance is necessary
because post-Kennedy there is broad-based
confusion among the lower courts as to the
proper Establishment Clause test (or tests) to
apply.
To address Lemon’s demise, Kennedy “instructed
that the Establishment Clause must be interpreted by
‘reference
to
historical
practices
and
understandings.’ ” 597 U.S. at 535 (quoting Town of
Greece v. Galloway, 572 U.S. 565, 576 (2014)) (cleaned
up). Any Establishment Clause line that separates
the constitutional from the unconstitutional must
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“ ‘accord[] with history and faithfully reflect[] the
understanding of the Founding Fathers.’ ” Town of
Greece, 572 U.S. at 577 (quoting Schempp, 374 U.S. at
294 (Brennan, J., concurring)). At the same time,
Agostini requires lower courts to apply precedents
that have “direct application in a case” (Lee and
Edwards) even if those cases “appear[] to rest on
reasons rejected in some other line of decisions”
(Kennedy and Shurtleff). 521 U.S. at 237. Given the
large number of cases decided during the
Lemon/endorsement test era, lower courts have
special need for direction as to the proper
Establishment Clause test to apply in the public
school setting.
Hilsenrath illustrates that need. The majority
adopted a “hallmarks” test, drawing on the “telling
traits” of established churches that Justice Gorsuch
identified in his Shurtleff concurrence. Hilsenrath,
136 F.4th at 491. But the panel majority’s historical
test is in direct tension with Edwards, which
recognized that “[s]uch a historical approach is not
useful in determining the proper roles of church and
state in public schools, since free public education was
virtually nonexistent at the time the Constitution was
adopted.” 482 U.S. at 583 n.4.
Unconvinced, the concurrence ignored Edwards,
rejected the majority’s “hallmarks” test, and
questioned whether “history and tradition” can ever
serve “as freestanding constitutional norms.” Id. at
494 (Phipps, J., concurring in the judgment). In place
of the hallmarks test, Judge Phipps concluded that
“all that is needed is a recognition that teaching on
matters of religion or even encouraging religious belief
or practice in public school does not constitute a ‘law
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respecting an establishment of religion.’ ” Id. at 495.
The concurrence provided no citation for its
“recognition” standard and never explained why
“encouraging religious belief or practice in public
school” would not violate the Establishment Clause
principles set out in Lee and Edwards. Id.
For its part, the District admits that “no one size
fits all test for evaluating Establishment Clause cases
was established in the wake of Lemon,” yet the
Hilsenrath majority suggests Kennedy did just that.
Response at 11.
Other courts, and even the
concurrence, have disagreed with the majority’s
approach.3 And none of these courts has addressed
Agostini. What the actual test or tests are, the
District never says. Instead, the District adds to the
confusion by proposing its own amalgamation of
Establishment Clause principles to conclude that the
proselytizing lessons on Islam are constitutional: “In
fact, no reasonable person, aware of the context of the
world history curriculum being taught, would ever
view the challenged materials as communicating a
message of coercion in a religious activity or
established church.” Response at 18-19. On this view,
the endorsement test (whether a reasonable person
would view the curriculum as communicating a
government message in the given context) combines
with some sort of coercion analysis to limit
Although the Fifth Circuit had denied that Kennedy
established a single hallmarks test, the District embraced that
analysis as rooted in “ ‘a broader tradition’ at the time of the
Founding or incorporation.” Roake v. Brumley, 141 F.4th 614,
646 (5th Cir. 2025); Response at 21. The Fifth Circuit recently
vacated Roake, see Roake v. Brumley, 154 F.4th 329 (5th Cir.
2025), suggesting Circuit-wide uncertainty about the governing
law.
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Establishment Clause violations to cases involving
direct coercion in a religious activity or an established
church. The Establishment Clause right of students
and parents to be free from lessons that promote
religious views in conflict with their own is never
mentioned.
All of this shows that guidance is necessary. If, as
the District contends, the majority’s test “is merely
representative of the foremost historical practices and
understandings of establishing a religion,” Response
at 20, courts need to know, among other things,
(i) what test or tests should be used to replace Lemon,
(ii) Kennedy’s impact on precedents that applied
Lemon, and (iii) how “historical practices and
understandings” affect the coercion analysis in the
public school context. If the hallmarks test is the test,
many questions remain unanswered as the
concurrence and Fourth Circuit have noted.
Hilsenrath, 136 F.4th at 494-95 (Phipps, J.,
concurring); Firewalker-Fields v. Lee, 58 F.4th 104,
121 (4th Cir. 2023). Only this Court can resolve this
widespread confusion by directing lower courts to
follow Agostini and by reaffirming that Lee and
Edwards still apply in the school context.
III. Given the overlap between the Religion
Clauses, Mahmoud clarifies the types of
coercive pressures that impermissibly
advance religious views that conflict with
the private beliefs of students and their
parents.
This Court has recognized that the Free Exercise
and Establishment Clauses have “complementary
purposes” and frequently provide overlapping
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protections for religious groups and individuals.
Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church & Sch.
v. EEOC, 565 U.S. 171, 181 (2012) (describing how
“[b]oth Religion Clauses bar the government from
interfering with the decision of a religious group to fire
one of its ministers”).
This Court’s precedents
involving public school instruction illustrate the point.
Edwards and Lee provide generous Establishment
Clause protection to parents and their children from
state-mandated religious instruction or exercise,
“guard[ing] and respect[ing] that sphere of inviolable
conscience and belief which is the mark of a free
people.” Lee, 505 U.S. at 592. Wisconsin v. Yoder, 406
U.S. 205 (1972) and Mahmoud are to the same effect
in the Free Exercise arena, providing parents and
their children with broad protection from mandated
materials or instruction that contradicts their
religious convictions.
Despite this dual security, the District insists that
Mahmoud has no bearing on this case. The District is
wrong. Both Religion Clauses safeguard parents and
children from even subtle forms of governmental
coercion that arise from lessons that proselytize or
promote a specific religion. Mahmoud’s coercion
analysis, therefore, directly relates to the central issue
here—whether proselytizing videos included in a
larger history unit “advance religious views that may
conflict with the private beliefs of the student and his
or her family.” Edwards, 482 U.S. at 584.
The Third Circuit looked only for evidence of direct
coercion that “ ‘force[s students] to engage in a formal
religious exercise.’ ” Hilsenrath, 136 F.4th at 492
(citation omitted). For its part, the District would
saddle parents with the burden of showing that
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“Respondent’s MENA curriculum” taken as a whole
does not “resemble[] the hallmarks of a religious
establishment, as interpreted through historical
practices and understandings.” Response at 26.
Mahmoud confirms that both requirements are
mistaken. Neither direct coercion nor participation in
a religious exercise/establishment are necessary
under the Religion Clauses.
Furthermore, Mahmoud instructs that the
coercion test, whether invoked in relation to Free
Exercise or Establishment, protects children and
parents (through notice and a chance to opt-out) from
specific lessons that conflict with their faith tradition.
When a secular lesson on a controversial topic (such
as the storybooks in Mahmoud) contradicts a parent’s
or child’s religious beliefs, the Free Exercise Clause is
implicated; when the challenged lesson involves
videos that proselytize and promote a particular faith,
Establishment Clause safeguards are triggered to
protect the “sphere of inviolable conscience and belief
which is the mark of a free people.” Lee, 505 U.S. at
592. In both situations, the lessons “undermine[]”
parents’ “ability to present” their desired religious
views “when the exact opposite message is positively
reinforced in the public school classroom at a very
young age.” 606 U.S. at 552. Thus, given the overlap
between the Religion Clauses, Mahmoud “is an
important precedent of this Court, and it cannot be
breezily dismissed as a special exception” that applies
only to Free Exercise claims. Id. at 558.
Finally, Hilsenrath does not invoke Mahmoud to
surreptitiously assert a Free Exercise claim; rather,
she asks this Court to consider—or at least permit the
Third Circuit to consider—Mahmoud’s impact on the
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coercion analysis in the public school setting.
Mahmoud revitalized Yoder, confirming that the Free
Exercise Clause “protects against policies that impose
more subtle forms of interference with the religious
upbringing of children.” 606 U.S. at 548. Because Lee
and Edwards protect the same right to be free from
even subtly coercive lessons that contradict a family’s
religious beliefs, Mahmoud’s reasoning should apply
to Establishment Clause claims as well. The decision
below erred by manufacturing a tension between the
Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses that does
not exist in the public school setting.
CONCLUSION
For the reasons given above, this Court should
grant the petition for certiorari or, in the alternative,
remand the case for reconsideration in light of
Mahmoud.
Respectfully submitted,
Richard Thompson
Counsel of Record
Thomas More Law Center
24 Frank Lloyd Wright Drive
P.O. Box 393
Ann Arbor, MI 48106
Tel: (734) 827-2001
rthompson@thomasmore.org
November 17, 2025
Michael P. Hrycak
129 Beech Street
Cranford, NJ 07016
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