Amicus Curiae Brief — Jason Wolford, et al., Petitioners v. Anne E. Lopez, Attorney General of Hawaii
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No. 24-1046
In the
Supreme Court of the United States
JASON WOLFORD, ET AL.,
Petitioners,
v.
ANNE E. LOPEZ, ATTORNEY GENERAL OF HAWAII,
Respondent.
ON WRIT OF CERTIORARI
TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
BRIEF OF AMICI CURIAE CLAYTON
CRAMER, CALIFORNIA RIFLE & PISTOL
ASSOCIATION, AND SECOND AMENDMENT
LAW CENTER IN SUPPORT OF PETITIONERS
C.D. Michel
Counsel of Record
Anna M. Barvir
MICHEL & ASSOCIATES, P.C.
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cmichel@michellawyers.com
Donald Kilmer
LAW OFFICES OF DONALD A.
KILMER, APC
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Caldwell, Idaho 83607
don@dklawoffice.com
Counsel for Amici Curiae
November 24, 2025
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Page
TABLE OF AUTHORITIES ....................................
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AMICI CURIAE STATEMENT OF INTEREST
1
SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT .................................
4
ARGUMENT ...............................................................
6
I. Post-Bruen Litigation Has Shifted Toward
Battles of Expert Historians, Reviving the Very
Interest Balancing that Heller Rejected and
Enabling Judicial Manipulation ...........................
6
II. The Government Strategies in Wolford, May,
and Carralero Illustrate the Expert Witness
Problem in Second Amendment Litigation ..........
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A. Historians’ opinions on the legal
interpretations of ancient laws should be
inadmissible. ...................................................
12
B. The historical inquiry must be limited to
actual laws and the societal problems they
addressed. ........................................................
14
III. The Court Should Reaffirm That Interpretation
of Historical Law Is a Judicial Function, Not an
Academic One ......................................................
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CONCLUSION ..............................................................
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TABLE OF AUTHORITIES
Page(s)
Cases
B&L Prods., Inc. v. Newsom,
104 F.4th 108 (9th Cir. 2024)...........................
8
B&L Prods., Inc. v. Newsom,
145 S. Ct. 1958 (2025) ......................................
8
Commodores Entm’t Corp. v. McClary,
879 F.3d 1114 (11th Cir. 2018) ........................
13
Chovan v. United States,
574 U.S. 979 (2014) ..........................................
7
Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharms., Inc.,
509 U.S. 579 (1993) ..........................................
11
District of Columbia v. Heller,
554 U.S. 570 (2008) ....................... 1, 4-8, 13, 15, 20
Jackson v. City & Cnty. of San Francisco,
746 F.3d 953 (9th Cir. 2014) ............................
8
Jackson v. City & Cnty. of San Francisco,
576 U.S. 1013 (2015) .......................................
8
Konigsberg v. State Bar of Cal.,
366 U.S. 36 (1961) ............................................
5
May v. Bonta,
709 F. Supp. 3d 940 (C.D. Cal. 2023) ... 2, 10-12, 15
McDonald v. City of Chicago,
561 U.S. 742 (2010) ............................... 1, 4, 5, 7, 13
N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n, Inc. v. Bruen,
597 U.S. 1 (2022) ......................... 4-10, 12-19, 22, 23
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TABLE OF AUTHORITIES - Continued
Silvester v. Becerra,
583 U.S. 1139 (2018) ........................................
6, 8
Silvester v. Harris,
843 F.3d 816 (9th Cir. 2016) ............................
8
Teixeira v. Cnty. of Alameda,
873 F.3d 670 (9th Cir. 2017) ............................
7, 8
Teixeira v. Alameda Cnty.,
584 U.S. 977 (2018) .........................................
8
Tennant v. Peoria & P.U. Ry. Co.,
321 U.S. 29 (1944) ............................................
11
United States v. Chovan,
735 F.3d 1127 (9th Cir. 2013) ..........................
7
United States v. Herring,
955 F.2d 703 (11th Cir. 1992) ..........................
13
United States v. Rahimi,
602 U.S. 680 (2024) ..........................................
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Constitutional Provisions
U.S. Const. amend. II .............. 1-11, 15-17, 20, 21, 23
U.S. Const. amend. VII ........................................
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Rules
Fed. Rule Civ. Proc. 52 ........................................
6
Fed. R. Evid. 702 ..................................................
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TABLE OF AUTHORITIES - Continued
Other Authorities
Cramer, Clayton, Bellesiles’ Arming America
Redux: Does the Gunning of America Rewrite
American History to Suit Modern Sensibilities?
41 S. Ill. Univ. L. J. (2017) ...............................
1
Kilmer, Donald, Navigating the Breyer Patch,
14 Geo. J.L. & Pub. Pol’y (2016) ......................
8
Radin, Max, The Law and You (1948) ............. 19, 20
Scalia, Antonin & Bryan A. Garner,
Reading Law: The Interpretation of Legal
Texts (2012)................................................ 19, 20, 22
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AMICI CURIAE STATEMENT OF INTEREST1
Amicus Clayton Cramer teaches history at the
College of Western Idaho. He has published books and
scholarly articles on the history of weapon regulation
and Second Amendment rights in the early republic.
His work has been cited by this Court in District of
Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 588 (2008), and
McDonald v. City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 742, 773 n.21,
776 n.25, 780, 933 (2010); see also id. at 773 n.21, 776
n.25, 780 (Breyer, Ginsburg & Sotomayor, JJ.,
dissenting).
Mr. Cramer’s exposure of academic fraud related
to Second Amendment research is recounted in his
article, Bellesiles’ Arming America Redux: Does the
Gunning of America Rewrite American History to Suit
Modern Sensibilities? 41 S. Ill. Univ. L. J. 403 (2017).
His interest in this case is to ask that this Court
clarify what kind of “expert” opinion evidence is
admissible when adjudicating Second Amendment
claims, to prevent the misuse of academically
questionable expert opinion testimony by lower courts
in Second Amendment cases.
Founded in 1875, California Rifle & Pistol
Association, Incorporated (CRPA), is a nonprofit
organization that seeks to defend the Second
Amendment and advance laws that protect the rights
of individual citizens. CRPA works to preserve the
rights of gun ownership, including the right to self1 No counsel for a party, nor any party, made a monetary
contribution to fund this brief. No person other than the amicus
parties, its members or counsel, made a monetary contribution
intended to fund the preparation or submission of this brief.
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defense, the right to hunt, and the right to keep and
bear arms. CRPA is also dedicated to promoting
shooting sports, providing education, training, and
competition for adult and junior shooters. In service of
these ends, CRPA regularly participates as a party or
amicus in firearm-related litigation.
CRPA is a plaintiff in May v. Bonta, 709
F. Supp. 3d 940 (C.D. Cal. 2023), a case that was
consolidated with the case at bar when both were
before the Ninth Circuit. In May, however, the circuit
court reached a different result on the question that
was granted review by this Court. Now on remand,
May is pending in the district court but has been
consolidated with the related case Carralero v. Bonta,
Case No. 8:23-cv-01798 (C.D. Cal.), and stayed
pending the outcome of this case. Before the case was
stayed, however, the parties were engaged in
substantial expert discovery related to the 13 expert
witnesses disclosed by California. In response, and as
a precaution to make a record for review, CRPA had
to devote its limited resources to hiring Mr. Cramer as
a rebuttal trial expert. This litigation tactic by
government defendants with deep pockets adds
unnecessary time and expense to Second Amendment
litigation.
Second Amendment Law Center, Inc. (2ALC) is a
nonprofit corporation in Henderson, Nevada. 2ALC
defends the individual rights to keep and bear arms
as envisioned by the Founders. 2ALC also educates
the public about the social utility of firearm ownership
and provides accurate historical, criminological, and
technical information to policymakers, judges, and the
public.
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Through this amicus brief, CRPA and 2ALC hope
to encourage the Court to provide greater guidance to
lower courts to prevent the misuse of expert opinion
testimony in Second Amendment cases. They also ask
the Court to seize the opportunity this case presents
to reiterate that the constitutional inquiry in such
cases should be based on the text of the amendment,
its historical public meaning, and this Court’s
decisional law—and not the contemporary opinions of
the academy and trial court judges.
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SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT
This Court’s decision in Heller resolved a major
substantive issue relating to the Second Amendment’s
place in our constellation of rights. But it also sparked
a backlash of procedural and analytical controversies
in its place. The Heller court’s use of text and original
public meaning, so clear to some, was a point of
departure for others. During the post-Heller period,
circuit courts invented two-step threshold tests, multitiered levels-of-scrutiny frameworks, and a curious
new interest in en banc adjudications. This quasirebellion in the lower courts resulted in Second
Amendment claims being treated like a second-class
right, subject to the judicial interest-balancing tests
that this Court said were verboten. Heller, 554 U.S. at
634-36.
There is a reason New York State Rifle & Pistol
Ass’n, Inc. v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1 (2022) reads almost
like a remedial lesson directed to the recalcitrant
lower courts. The Bruen Court took great pains to
point out that it was merely applying in 2022 what it
had already decided in Heller in 2008 and in
McDonald in 2010. Bruen, 597 U.S. at 18-25. Then, as
a precaution to head off any more judicial mischief in
the lower courts, the decision provided a crystal-clear
methodology for future cases:
[If] the Second Amendment’s plain text
covers an individual’s conduct, the
Constitution presumptively protects that
conduct. To justify its regulation, the
government may not simply posit that
the regulation promotes an important
interest. Rather, the government must
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demonstrate that the regulation is
consistent with this Nation’s historical
tradition of firearm regulation. Only if a
firearm regulation is consistent with this
Nation’s historical tradition may a court
conclude that the individual’s conduct
falls outside the Second Amendment’s
“unqualified command.”
Id. at 17 (quoting Konigsberg v. State Bar of Cal., 366
U.S. 36, 50, n.10 (1961)).
Alas, lawyers being lawyers (and judges being
lawyers in robes), anyone who had been predisposed
to creatively ignore the methodology announced in
Heller and McDonald through legal sophistry might
also be predisposed to read more into Bruen than is
plainly there. Hence, the Court’s insistence that the
government prove its modern firearm “regulation is
consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition,”
Bruen, 597 U.S. at 17, is currently being treated as a
license for retroactive Brandeis Briefs masquerading
as government defendants’ expert testimony.
Furthermore, this Court’s suggestion that a “more
nuanced approach” to this inquiry may be necessary
in “cases implicating unprecedented societal concerns
or dramatic technological changes,” id. at 27, has only
had the effect of incentivizing government defendants
to nudge all fact patterns into a “nuanced approach.”
This, in practice, has become just another label for the
sort of judicial interest balancing the Court rejected in
Heller.
Worse, such government expert testimony, if
deemed more credible than the challengers’ experts,
risks obtaining the safe harbor of adjudicated facts
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established by a trial court, entitled to only clear error
review by any appellate court. See Fed. Rule Civ. Proc.
52(a)(6); Silvester v. Becerra, 583 U.S. 1139, 1140
(2018) (Thomas, J., dissenting). And if upheld on
appeal, these “adjudicated facts” relating to historical
interpretations of founding-era gun laws will have the
effect of bootstrapping expert opinions (whether
biased or not) into legal precedent and thus binding on
subsequent inquiries.
An online search of the terms “expert” and “Second
Amendment” yields more than 70 post-Bruen districtand circuit-court cases in the pipeline—all attempting
to apply the doctrine articulated in that case.
Certainly, not all of them warrant a battle of experts.
The purpose of this brief is to ask that the Court
address the problem before it gains (even more)
momentum in other cases and circuits. Amici ask this
Court to lay down a bright-line rule on when (if ever)
it is appropriate for courts to consider expert
testimony under the rules articulated in Bruen.
ARGUMENT
I.
Post-Bruen Litigation Has Shifted Toward
Battles of Expert Historians, Reviving the
Very Interest Balancing that Heller
Rejected
and
Enabling
Judicial
Manipulation
In Heller, this Court articulated a straightforward
analytical approach for adjudicating Second
Amendment claims. This Court’s instructions were
fairly and clearly expressed and required fidelity to
the constitutional text and original public meaning of
that text. Heller, 554 U.S. at 576-78. The opinion also
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authorized a historical analysis of non-controversial
“facts” to ensure that the textual interpretation was
congruent with how Americans understood and
subsequently exercised their Second Amendment
rights. Id. at 579-600. The Heller Court even
countenanced a parallel analysis of state constitutions
with Second Amendment analogues as part of a public
meaning checksum on the “right to keep and bear
arms.” Id. at 601-03. Nothing in Heller suggested that
courts should weigh competing expert historical
narratives or resort to interest balancing.
Lower courts, however, did just that. After
incorporation was resolved in McDonald, many courts
adopted a hybrid, tiered-scrutiny framework that
departed sharply from Heller’s textual and historical
approach. Under this framework, they would first
examine whether the regulated conduct was within
the scope of the Second Amendment—a threshold
inquiry functionally equivalent to a separate standing
analysis reserved for Second Amendment cases. If the
claim survived this inquiry, courts would then select a
level of scrutiny based on their own free-standing
assessment of how severely the challenged law
burdened what they deemed the “core” of the right to
keep and bear arms. But the result was preordained:
Courts almost always selected intermediate scrutiny
and then subjected Second Amendment claims to the
very interest-balancing approach rejected in Heller.
554 U.S. at 634-36.
In the Ninth Circuit, this evolved into the
“meaningful constraint” test. This pre-Bruen test was
first articulated in United States v. Chovan, 735 F.3d
1127 (9th Cir. 2013), cert. denied, Chovan v. United
States, 574 U.S. 979 (2014). It was extended in
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Teixeira v. County of Alameda, 873 F.3d 670 (9th Cir.
2017) (en banc), cert. denied, Teixeira v. Alameda
Cnty., 584 U.S. 977 (2018). It was employed in Jackson
v. City & County of San Francisco, 746 F.3d 953 (9th
Cir. 2014), cert. denied, Jackson v. City & Cnty. of San
Francisco, 576 U.S. 1013 (2015) (with a dissental by
Justices Scalia and Thomas), and used again in
Silvester v. Harris, 843 F.3d 816 (9th Cir. 2016), cert.
denied, Silvester v. Becerra, 583 U.S. 1139 (2018) (with
a dissental by Justice Thomas). Even after Bruen, the
Ninth Circuit has continued to invoke this framework
to uphold firearm restrictions in cases like B&L
Productions, Inc. v. Newsom, 104 F.4th 108 (9th Cir.
2024), cert. denied, B&L Prods., Inc. v. Newsom, 145
S. Ct. 1958 (2025).
The sheer complexity of the (unfavorable) special
treatment meted out to Second Amendment claims
between 2008 and 2022 practically invited judicial
mischief. As Kilmer warned in Navigating the Breyer
Patch, 14 Geo. J.L. & Pub. Pol’y 101 (2016), such an
approach
could
effectively
convert
Second
Amendment practice into complex litigation—
requiring extensive discovery, motion practice, expert
testimony, and trial work to present and impeach
expert testimony. Attempting to adjudicate
fundamental rights in this complex manner
predictably favors the government, creating precisely
the sort of government-empowered outcomes that
Justice Breyer advocated for in his dissent in Heller.
As noted above regarding the B&L Productions
case denied certiorari earlier this year, the sheer
stubbornness that circuit courts will exert to retain
judge-empowering procedures for adjudicating Second
Amendment cases continues unabated. And it will
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likely continue in any feigned attempt to clothe
judicial interest balancing as a mere credibility
contest between competing historians under a fauxBruen analysis. In other words, the abuse of historical
analysis under Bruen allows judges to select the
historian whose theory aligns best with the outcome
under an intermediate scrutiny analysis. Meet the
new test, same as the old test.
Although Bruen was supposed to eliminate the
opportunity for such judicial mischief, it has
unintentionally spawned a new set of difficulties for
plaintiffs in Second Amendment challenges. Now,
rather than having to produce or rebut criminological
studies, crime statistics, prosecution and conviction
rates, firearm marketing data, and firearm sales data,
plaintiffs must be prepared for deep-pocketed
governments to marshal teams of historians. Each
expert will offer an opinion on a range of topics—from
historical analogues to modern libraries, museums,
banks, zoos, and parks. They will assert that the
absence of historical firearms regulations in a given
setting is merely an artifact of historical
anachronism—an argument used to funnel virtually
any case into the “nuanced approach” that Bruen
instructs is reserved for cases “implicating
unprecedented societal concerns or dramatic
technological changes.” 597 U.S. at 27. And when
every case gets shoe-horned into that approach, every
case becomes susceptible to a new briar patch of
judicial interest-balancing tests cloaked as scholastic
debate.
The Ninth Circuit’s decision below exemplifies the
problem. The court held that “[f]or places that have
existed since the Founding,” the government need
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only “identify historical regulations similar in number
and timeframe” to those this Court “cited as
justification for designating other places as sensitive.”
Petit.App.29a. “For places that are newer,” the Ninth
Circuit held that courts must accept analogues even if
the Founding generation never regulated such places
because “it is illogical to expect a government to
regulate a place before it existed in its modern form.”
Petit.App.29a. Under the Ninth Circuit’s approach,
“historical regulations need not be a close match”; they
“need only evince a principle underpinning our
Nation’s historical tradition of regulating firearms in
places relevantly similar to those covered by the
challenged law.” Petit.App.30a (citing United States v.
Rahimi, 602 U.S. 680, 692 (2024)). This inquiry turns
on whether the constitutionality of those historical
laws was disputed—a factor that courts can
manipulate with ease, given the sparse litigation
records of the Founding era.
This is not Bruen’s text-and-history analysis. It is
judicial interest balancing, wearing the carcass of
Bruen’s text, history, and tradition analysis. And it is
only made plausible by the government’s use of
retroactive Brandeis Briefs masquerading as expert
opinion testimony by competing historians.
II.
The Government Strategies in Wolford,
May, and Carralero Illustrate the Expert
Witness Problem in Second Amendment
Litigation
Amicus Clayton Cramer submitted rebuttal
testimony in Wolford, May, and Carralero, addressing
the extensive expert reports offered by the
governments in opposition to the preliminary
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injunction motions in those cases. Mr. Cramer’s expert
report in Wolford was a response to two experts called
by the state of Hawaii, and is set forth in Joint
Appendix I, starting at page 321a. The expert reports
submitted as testimony through declarations that Mr.
Cramer was tasked with rebutting in the Wolford case
can be found in Joint Appendix G, starting at page
243a (Saul Cornell) and Joint Appendix H, starting at
page 293a (Dr. Brennan Gardner Rivas). In the May
and Carralero cases, now pending in the district court
but stayed pending the outcome of this case, Mr.
Cramer was similarly retained to rebut more than a
dozen expert reports submitted by California in those
cases.
Unless this Court establishes standards governing
the admissibility of historical expert testimony in
Second Amendment litigation, the dozen-plus
opinions of these experts will likely become part of the
evidentiary record in these cases. Even an evidentiary
hearing under the federal rules, applying Daubert v.
Merrell Dow Pharms., Inc., 509 U.S. 579 (1993)
resolves only the admissibility of opinion testimony,
leaving the issue of credibility unresolved.
Furthermore, the scientific framework of Daubert may
not even lend itself very well to adjudicating the
reliability of “facts” developed by “experts” from the
humanities.
One final point bears examination. Traditionally,
credibility determinations are left to the deliberation
of juries. U.S. Const. amend. VII. See also Tennant v.
Peoria & P.U. Ry. Co., 321 U.S. 29, 35 (1944). The
prospect of juries adjudicating fundamental
constitutional rights based on dueling historians’
narratives—each offering competing views about how
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closely a modern gun law resembles a founding-era
rule, regulation, or statute—should give the Court
pause. The situation is not improved by having judges
make the call based on such evidence.
While the Ninth Circuit relied on only two
historical statutes to resolve the interlocutory issue
now before this Court, the remaining issues in
Wolford, May, and Carralero must still proceed to trial
and final judgment. When they do, Hawaii and
California will again rely not only on the text of
historical laws but on extensive expert opinions
attempting to compare modern public spaces—
including banks, zoos, parking lots, public transit,
taverns, playgrounds, museums, parks, libraries,
beaches, and hospitals—to their supposed foundingera counterparts. Without clear limits, these expertdriven comparisons will convert Bruen’s text-andhistory method into a sprawling contest of historical
theories, with fundamental rights turning on whose
historian seems more persuasive to a judge or jury.
A. Historians’
opinions
on
the
legal
interpretations of ancient laws should be
inadmissible.
The government’s expert declarations in Wolford
illustrate why courts should exclude historians’
opinions about what founding-era laws “really
meant.” The most problematic parts of these
declarations—those squarely subject to a motion to
strike under the Federal Rules of Evidence—are the
passages offering opinions on how to interpret English
common law and American laws from the relevant
periods. For instance, as Mr. Cramer’s rebuttal
declaration shows, Hawaii’s experts were, in many
places, effectively opining on whether this Court’s
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holdings in Heller, McDonald, and Bruen were
historically accurate. These are not “facts”; they are
legal conclusions that fall outside the proper scope of
expert testimony.
Rule 702 permits a witness with specialized
“knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education”
to offer opinion testimony if that witness’s knowledge
“will help the trier of fact to understand the evidence
or to determine a fact in issue.” The testimony offered
by Hawaii, and addressed by Mr. Cramer, purports to
instruct courts on how to interpret founding-era laws.
To the extent that the State’s “experts” were offering
legal arguments for or against particular
interpretations of historical statutes, their testimony
should be categorically excluded. Interpreting the law
in a federal case is not a matter for expert witnesses;
it is the constitutional duty of judges appointed by the
President and confirmed by the Senate.
Indeed, statutory interpretation is a legal question
for the court, not a factual issue for the trier of fact.
Commodores Entertainment Corp. v. McClary, 879
F.3d 1114, 1129 (11th Cir. 2018). A district court must
thus take “adequate steps to protect against the
danger that [an] expert’s opinion would be accepted as
a legal conclusion.” United States v. Herring, 955 F.2d
703, 709 (11th Cir. 1992). That duty does not change
just because the legal question involves some
historical understanding of the history of firearm
regulation in America.
On this point, the government should be limited to
presenting historical laws from the relevant period
that it claims are “well established and
representative” analogues to the challenged modern
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law. Bruen, 597 U.S. at 29-31. It is then the court’s
duty to determine: (1) whether those proposed
analogues
are
indeed
well-established
and
representative, and (2) whether they are relevantly
similar enough to sustain the modern restriction. Id.
at 28-31. Judges—not experts—are best equipped to
compare modern laws to old ones without resort to
extrinsic aids. This Court should ensure that lower
courts are not tempted to abandon the task of
interpreting historical laws to the competing
testimony of academics and scholars.
After all, Bruen itself never advanced past
pleadings in the district court. There was no discovery,
no battle of the experts, and no diatribes from history
professors speculating about why the Founders
refrained from passing restrictions on public carry
with the regularity or topographic scope coveted by
modern legislatures. Still, this Court had no difficulty
evaluating the historical laws the government
presented without remanding the case for further
development. It simply held that New York’s modern
carry law was not “consistent with this Nation’s
historical tradition of firearm regulation.” Bruen, 597
U.S. at 17, 70-71. It was Justice Breyer’s dissent, not
the majority, that proposed a briar patch of competing
experts. Id. at 83-85.
B. The historical inquiry must be limited to
actual laws and the societal problems they
addressed.
The historical inquiry begins (and ends) with the
laws of the relevant period and the societal problems
they were enacted to address. Testimony from
government experts claiming that “the world has
changed since the founding era, therefore laws from
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that period must be given a nuanced interpretation”
should be declared inadmissible. The public spaces at
issue when Wolford, May, and Carralero return to
their respective district courts—banks, zoos, parking
lots, public transit, taverns, liquor stores, casinos,
stadiums, amusement parks, churches, playgrounds,
museums, parks, libraries, beaches, and hospitals, as
well as the private spaces open to the public at issue
here—do not transform the inquiry into an
architectural or sociological comparison of 1790s and
2025.
Yet Hawaii and California have already tipped
their hand and revealed that their strategy will be just
that: To argue that these spaces have “evolved” so
dramatically from their founding era analogues that
Bruen compels a “more nuanced approach.” And we all
know that, in practice, “nuanced interpretation” is
code for intermediate scrutiny.
Thankfully, Bruen provides a roadmap. None of it
depends on “expert” narratives about how different
colonial taverns were from modern sports bars. The
Court held:
The test that we set forth in Heller and
apply today requires courts to assess
whether modern firearms regulations
are consistent with the Second
Amendment’s
text
and
historical
understanding. In some cases, that
inquiry will be fairly straightforward.
For instance, when a challenged
regulation addresses a general societal
problem that has persisted since the 18th
century, the lack of a distinctly similar
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historical regulation addressing that
problem is relevant evidence that the
challenged regulation is inconsistent
with the Second Amendment. Likewise,
if earlier generations addressed the
societal problem, but did so through
materially different means, that also
could be evidence that a modern
regulation is unconstitutional. And if
some jurisdictions actually attempted to
enact analogous regulations during this
timeframe, but those proposals were
rejected on constitutional grounds, that
rejection surely would provide some
probative evidence of unconstitutionality.
Bruen, 597 U.S. at 26. Here, the Court instructs lower
courts to analyze founding-era and modern
regulations in the context of the societal problems
these laws seek to address. The analysis is not—as
suggested by the government’s experts—focused on
contrived analogies or dissimilarities to colonial and
modern public spaces. The above passage from Bruen
essentially poses three questions in which historical
analogies are to be employed.
First, does the modern regulation target a societal
problem that has persisted into modern times since
the 18th Century? The question turns not on how a
modern library compares to an 18th-century library,
but rather (1) whether the founding generation
understood that assault, battery, mayhem, and
murder were committed with firearms in public
places? And (2) whether they responded by banning
guns in those places? The answer is “no.”
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Secondly, did the founding generation address this
societal problem, which has persisted since the 18th
century, in a materially different way from the
modern regulation? If the founders addressed the
same societal problem using different tools, that
divergence may matter. But again, the societal
problem is still public violence, while the remedy, via
the Second Amendment, has consistently been
upholding an individual’s right to defend against that
violence. The founders did not enact “gun-free zones”
in public spaces in the hope that violent criminals
would obey them. Modern attempts to do so cannot be
justified by claiming that modern playgrounds and
museums somehow pose new “societal problems.”
Finally, were any analogous regulations from the
founding rendered unconstitutional on other grounds?
Some
historical
regulations—such
as
slave
disarmament laws—were rooted in preventing the
revolt of enslaved people and preserving an
unconstitutional hierarchy. But no one would contend
today that such a revolt would not constitute lawful
self-defense, the raison d’etre of the Second
Amendment. The solution to the “societal problem” of
the conflict between master and slave was not
banning enslaved people from having guns, but
banning slavery, and subsequently all race-based gun
laws.
Nothing in Bruen gives legislatures (and judges)
license to treat modern laws as though they are
presumptively valid simply because modern libraries,
museums, zoos, parks, taverns, hospitals, and sports
venues look different today than they did during the
founding era. Why? Because such an inquiry is exactly
backward.
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The historical inquiry is not to determine whether
modern public spaces resemble their counterparts
from the founding era. It is to determine whether the
“societal problem” the modern law purports to target
has persisted since the 18th century. And that inquiry
is straightforward. Is there still a risk today of being
unarmed in a confrontation with an armed criminal
who will not obey laws against violence in public
spaces? This is the penultimate test on whether
banning firearms in public spaces is constitutional or
not.
It is no surprise that, in a post-Bruen world,
governments hope to steer the analysis to the “more
nuanced approach.” That is where advocates of
expansive gun restriction can make the most hay by
threading the eye of the needle created by Bruen,
obscuring the passage above and overwhelming the
analysis with credentialed pablum. But Bruen bars
this move. Historical analogy requires a comparison of
laws enacted to address shared societal problems; it is
not a license to reinvent intermediate scrutiny under
the guise of historical inquiry.
III.
The Court Should
Reaffirm That
Interpretation of Historical Law Is a
Judicial Function, Not an Academic One
There is obviously a place for experts in the history
of arms laws in America. Amicus like Mr. Cramer
provide invaluable work by conducting archaeological
research to uncover ancient laws that have not been
indexed in modern search engines and legal
databases. But these found statutes, regulations, and
ordinances ultimately must be argued by lawyers and
interpreted by judges. In this way, they are valuable
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consulting experts and, on the rare occasion (e.g.,
interpreting an arcane term that has fallen out of
common usage), as testimonial experts. Such
historians should be encouraged to submit amicus
briefs on any point of law that turns on a historical
fact. But what the government defendants have
sought to do in post-Bruen litigation is push past that
limited role and have their historical experts
commandeer the role reserved for judges—
interpretation of founding era law.
It is a “false notion that lawyers and judges, not
being historians, are unqualified to do the historical
research that originalism requires.” Antonin Scalia &
Bryan A. Garner, Reading Law: The Interpretation of
Legal Texts 399 (2012). That text goes on:
“Lawyers are . . . necessarily historians .
. . . If they do not take this task seriously,
they will not cease to be historians. They
merely will be bad historians.” Max
Radin, The Law and You 188-89 (1948).
Originalism admittedly requires
lawyers and judges to engage in
historical semantics. It is often charged
that they are ill equipped for the task: “It
is quite true that lawyers are for the
most part extremely bad historians.
They often make up an imaginary
history and use curiously unhistorical
methods.” The leveler of that charge,
Max Radin, cited a British example of a
1939 judicial misinterpretation of
sources dating back to 1215—in a
different language altogether (medieval
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Latin and Law French). The example
serves as a useful admonition. But note
that Radin was an originalist:
We have thus imposed a new
burden on the lawyer on the
bench. Besides all the other
things asked of him, he is also to
be a historian. But there is no
help for it. There is simply no way
by which the law can be made
either simple or easy.
Nor is it a valid refutation of
originalism that “no one can
reconstruct original understanding precisely.” Our charge is to
try.
Id. at 399-400 (footnotes omitted). To illustrate this
point, Reading Law references Heller,
which upheld the individual right to
possess firearms, one of the significant
aspects of the Second Amendment was
that it did not purport to confer a right to
keep and bear arms. It did not say that
“the people shall have the right to keep
and bear arms,” or even that “the
government shall not prevent the people
from keeping and bearing arms,” but
rather that “the right of the people to
keep and bear arms” (implying a
preexisting right) “shall not be
infringed.” This triggered historical
inquiry showing that the right to have
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arms for personal use (including selfdefense) was regarded at the time of the
framing as one of the fundamental rights
of Englishmen. Once the history was
understood, it was difficult to regard the
guarantee of the Second Amendment as
no more than a guarantee of the right to
join a militia. Moreover, the prefatory
clause of the Second Amendment (“A well
regulated militia being necessary for the
defense of a free state”) could not be
logically reconciled with a personal right
to keep and bear arms without the
historical knowledge (possessed by the
framing generation) that the Stuart
kings had destroyed the people’s militia
by disarming those whom they
disfavored. Here the opinion was dealing
with history in a broad sense.
It is reasonable to ask whether
lawyers and judges can adequately
perform historical inquiry of this sort.
Those
who
oppose
originalism
exaggerate the task. In some cases, to be
sure, it is difficult, and originalists will
differ among themselves on the correct
answer. But that is the exception, not the
rule. In most cases—and especially the
most controversial ones—the originalist
answer is entirely clear.…
Today’s lawyers and judges, when
analyzing historical questions, have
more tools than ever before. They can
look to an evergrowing body of
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scholarship produced by the legions of
academic legal historians populating law
and history faculties at our leading
universities. No history faculty of any
note would consider itself complete
without legal experts; and no law faculty
would consider itself complete without
its share of expert historians.
Id. at 400-01. What cannot happen, and what this
Court should make clear, is that expert historians
may not usurp the role of judges. This Court should
ensure that lower court judges seeking to masquerade
a judicial interest-balancing test as a historical
inquiry under Bruen are not defying this Court.
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CONCLUSION
The Ninth Circuit’s effort to smuggle intermediate
scrutiny back into Second Amendment doctrine must
fail. Bruen requires courts to ground their analysis in
text and history—not “expert” speculation. Adhering
to that mandate is essential to preserving the right to
keep and bear arms that the People enshrined.
For these reasons, Amici respectfully ask this
Court to reverse the judgment below and, in so doing,
clarify when, if ever, it is appropriate to rely on expert
opinion in Second Amendment cases.
November 24, 2025
Respectfully submitted,
C.D. Michel
Counsel of Record
Anna M. Barvir
MICHEL & ASSOCIATES, P.C.
180 E. Ocean Blvd., Ste. 200
Long Beach, CA 90802
(562) 216-4453
cmichel@michellawyers.com
Donald Kilmer
LAW OFFICES OF DONALD A.
KILMER, APC
14085 Silver Ridge Road
Caldwell, Idaho 83607
don@dklawoffice.com
Counsel for Amici Curiae
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