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People v. Stayner

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IN THE SUPREME COURT OF

CALIFORNIA

THE PEOPLE,

Plaintiff and Respondent,

v.

CARY ANTHONY STAYNER,

Defendant and Appellant.

S112146

Santa Clara County Superior Court

210694

April 30, 2026

Chief Justice Guerrero authored the opinion of the Court, in

which Justices Corrigan, Liu, Kruger, Groban, and Adams*

concurred.

Justice Evans filed a concurring and dissenting opinion.

*

Associate Justice of the Court of Appeal, Second Appellate

District, Division Three, assigned by the Chief Justice pursuant

to article VI, section 6 of the California Constitution.

PEOPLE v. STAYNER

S112146

Opinion of the Court by Guerrero, C. J.

This case is an automatic appeal from a judgment of death.

(Pen. Code,1 § 1239, subd. (b).) Defendant Cary Anthony

Stayner used a ruse to enter the motel room of Carole Sund, her

15-year-old daughter Juli Sund, and their 16-year-old family

friend Silvina Pelosso.2 Once inside the room, defendant

brandished a gun and used duct tape to bind Carole and the

girls. He murdered Carole by strangling her and murdered

Silvina by strangling and suffocating her. Then, over the course

of several hours, he repeatedly sexually assaulted Juli, after

which he kidnapped her, sexually assaulted her again, and then

murdered her by slitting her throat. About five months later,

defendant kidnapped, murdered, and decapitated Joie

Armstrong. Defendant confessed to his crimes in a detailed

recorded interview. The facts of the Armstrong murder, which

occurred inside Yosemite National Park (Yosemite) and was

prosecuted by federal authorities, were presented during the

penalty phase.

After a jury trial, defendant was convicted of the murders

of Carole, Juli, and Silvina (§ 187, subd. (a)) and of kidnapping

Juli (§ 207). As to the three murder counts, the jury found true

allegations that defendant personally used a deadly and

1

Unspecified statutory references are to the Penal Code.

2

Because several victims and witnesses share the same last

names, we occasionally refer to them by their first names.

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dangerous weapon (former § 12022, subd. (b)(1)) and personally

used a firearm in the commission of the crimes (former

§§ 12022.5, subd. (a)(1), 12022.53, subd. (b)). The jury found

true five special circumstances: Multiple murders (§ 190.2,

subd. (a)(3)); kidnapping murder as to Juli (id., subd. (a)(17)(B));

attempted rape murder as to Juli (id., subd. (a)(17)(C)); forcible

oral copulation murder as to Juli (id., subd. (a)(17)(F)); and

burglary murder (id., subd. (a)(17)(G)). The jury found not true

an alleged robbery-murder special circumstance. (Id., subd.

(a)(17)(A).)

In a separate sanity phase trial, the jury found defendant

to be sane at the time of the offenses, and in a separate penalty

phase trial, the jury set the penalty at death. The trial court

denied defendant’s motion for a new trial and his motion to

modify the sentence and imposed a sentence of death with a

consecutive prison term of 45 years.

We affirm the judgment in its entirety.

I. FACTS

A. Guilt Phase

1. Prosecution case

a. The disappearance of Carole, Juli, and Silvina

In February 1999, Carole Sund lived in Eureka with her

husband Jens, their 15-year-old daughter Juli, and their three

younger children. Carole planned a vacation with Juli and

Silvina, a 16-year-old family friend from Argentina who was

staying with them.

On February 12, 1999, Carole, Juli, and Silvina flew to

San Francisco, and Carole rented a red Pontiac Grand Prix from

Avis Car Rental. They planned to attend Juli’s cheerleading

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competition in Stockton, drive to Yosemite for a two-night stay

at the Cedar Lodge, and return to San Francisco to meet up with

Jens and the other children for a trip to Arizona.

On February 14, 1999, Carole, Juli, and Silvina checked

into room 509 at the Cedar Lodge in El Portal. Juli and Silvina

rented a VCR and some VCR tapes. The clerk recalled

discussing the movie Jerry Maguire (Tristar Pictures 1996) with

them. Defendant was a maintenance worker at the Cedar Lodge

and lived in an apartment above the restaurant and bar.

Tracy M. was also staying at the Cedar Lodge with family

and friends, including Tracy M.’s 15- and 12-year-old daughters

and their two friends. On February 14, the four girls went to

the motel’s indoor pool and spa and saw defendant hanging out

in the spa area.

On the morning of February 16, a Cedar Lodge manager

called room 509 because the guests had not checked out. No one

answered. Later, a housekeeper looked inside the room and saw

wet towels on the bathroom floor and beds that looked “almost

like [they were] made up” but appeared to be “in a tiny bit of

disarray.” A pink blanket and a pillow were missing from the

closet.

When Carole and the girls were not at the San Francisco

International Airport on February 16 for their planned meetup,

Jens was not surprised because his plane had arrived four hours

late. He caught the next plane to Phoenix, Arizona. When he

did not hear from Carole by February 17, he filed a missing

person report.

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b. Investigation of Sund-Pelosso murders

i. Initial investigation

A Mariposa County Sheriff’s Deputy received the missing

person report and went to Cedar Lodge. She examined room 509

and did not see any damage to the door or windows. The

curtains were closed, and one bed sheet was missing. There

were some Danish pastry rolls, an apple, and tomato juice in the

room. Wet towels were heaped on the bathroom floor.

On February 19, a middle school student discovered a

wallet while walking to school in Modesto. The wallet contained

Carole’s driver’s license and credit cards.

On February 20, another Mariposa County Sheriff’s

Deputy processed room 509 for evidence and collected latent

fingerprints. One pillow was missing a pillowcase, and one bed

was missing its top sheet. On the floor, there were small pieces

of cloth and what appeared to be a garment label.

On March 3, 1999, FBI Special Agent Anthony Alston

interviewed defendant at Cedar Lodge. Defendant said he

returned to Cedar Lodge on Valentine’s Day weekend after

going out of town to visit friends. He said he had not seen the

missing individuals or their car.

ii. Discovery of Carole and Silvina’s bodies

The afternoon of March 18, 1999, a witness saw a

thoroughly burnt car on a remote dirt road. He could not tell

the color of the car but saw that it was red near the front license

plate, which had fallen off. He took the license plate home and

called police.

The next morning, FBI Special Agent Chris Hopkins went

to the scene and discovered the bodies of Carole and Silvina in

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the trunk of the car. A pathologist testified that the victims died

before the fire began. The victims’ bones were damaged by heat

and showed no damage from a bullet or a cutting tool.

Strangulation could not be ruled out as the possible cause of

death.

Agents investigated the burnt car and surrounding areas

and found a rope, a black purse, a green fanny pack, a camera

case with a camera, an Avis Car Rental key, and Juli’s shoes.

Inside the purse was Carole’s credit card, a second camera, and

a receipt from Cedar Lodge. Photographs developed from the

cameras showed the victims at a cheerleading contest and in

Yosemite. Arson expert FBI Agent Timothy Huff determined

the fire was intentionally set weeks before its discovery on

March 18.

iii. Discovery of Juli’s body

On March 24, 1999, Special Agent Alston, who had

interviewed defendant at Cedar Lodge, received a letter at the

FBI’s Modesto field office. The letter included a map of the Vista

Point area on the Don Pedro Reservoir and included the words

“We had fun with this one,” “Vista Point,” and “Don Pedro.”

Defendant’s right thumbprint was found on the stamp. An FBI

document examiner discovered indentations on the letter that

depicted a heart and the words “Victor,” “Johnny,” “Forever,”

and several X’s.

On March 25, 1999, FBI agents searched the area depicted

on the map and discovered Juli’s body. There was a piece of duct

tape attached to her left ankle. An autopsy revealed the cause

of death was a six-and-a-quarter-inch incision to her neck. The

pathologist testified that Juli’s vulva was shaved but that she

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could not determine whether Juli had been sexually assaulted

because her body was decomposed.

c. Defendant’s statement

On July 24, 1999, FBI agents, thinking defendant might

have some information about the murder of Joie Armstrong,

located him at a resort in Wilton. Defendant agreed to be

interviewed at the FBI office in Sacramento, waived his rights

under Miranda v. Arizona (1966) 384 U.S. 436 (Miranda), and

was interviewed in Sacramento. Defendant’s interview was

audio recorded and relevant portions were played for the jury.

Defendant said he had always had obsessive-compulsive

sexual feelings but that in late 1998, it “just got to the point”

where he decided to act on them. He began fantasizing about

killing his girlfriend, raping and killing her eight- and 11-year-

old daughters, and burning their house to avoid detection. He

had considered acting on this fantasy as recently as two days

before the interview, even going over to his girlfriend’s house but

discovering that her daughters were away.

On the weekend of February 13 to 14, 1999, defendant put

together a crime “kit” including a roll of black duct tape, a knife,

and some rope. On February 14, he saw four girls at the Cedar

Lodge pool who would have been his victims, but a man was

staying with them. The next day, defendant visited his

girlfriend and her daughters but decided not to kill them in part

because there was a man staying on the property. At 9:00 p.m.,

he returned to Cedar Lodge and peered into a room next to

where a red Pontiac Grand Prix was parked. He saw a woman

(Carole) and two girls (Juli and Silvina). He “didn’t see a man

in the room, so they were vulnerable. Easy prey.” He got his

crime “kit,” gloves, and a gun from his room.

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On the “[s]pur of the moment,” he thought of a plan — to

knock on the doors of several empty nearby rooms, loudly say

“[m]aintenance,” walk in, wait a few seconds, and slam the door,

“to just kinda desensitize them to the knock on their door.”

When he knocked on the victims’ door, Carole looked out the

window. Defendant told her he needed to check inside for a

possible water leak. Carole did not want to let him in. He said,

“[O]kay, no problem ma’am I’ll just . . . go get the manager,” and

told her they would have to move to another room. Carole asked

why they had to move, and defendant said they would not have

to if he could check inside. Carole let him in.

Defendant went into the bathroom and pretended to check

for a leak. As he came out of the bathroom, he pulled out the

gun. The girls were watching the movie Jerry Maguire.

Defendant pointed the gun at Carole and said he needed money

and the keys to the car. Then he bound everyone, covered their

mouths with duct tape, and led Juli and Silvina into the

bathroom. Defendant wet some towels, “[t]ryin’ to make it look

like they had been there all night [¶] . . . [¶] [a]nd into the

morning.”

Defendant then cut a piece of rope, sat on Carole’s back,

and “nonchalantly strangled her to death.” He “had no feeling”

as he “just performed the task.” He wrapped Carole’s body in a

sheet and put her in the trunk of the Pontiac.

Defendant returned to the room and removed the girls’

clothes, cutting their shirts off with his knife, causing bits of

cloth to fall on the carpet. Defendant orally copulated Juli, made

her orally copulate him, and attempted to rape her. He took

Silvina into the bathroom and strangled and suffocated her.

Then he continued his sexual assault of Juli for several hours.

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At one point, Juli asked to go to the bathroom. Defendant

did not want Juli to see Silvina and “freak out,” so he took her

next door to room 510. Defendant forced Juli to shave her pubic

area because he wanted to fulfill his fantasy of having sex with

a prepubescent girl. He then orally copulated her again. As it

got closer to morning, he knew he had to leave. He tied Juli up,

left her in room 510 with the phone disconnected, and returned

to room 509. Wearing gloves, he packed the victims’ belongings

in their suitcases and put the suitcases, Carole’s purse, and

Silvina’s body in the Pontiac. He left behind some Danish

pastries and tomato juice.

Defendant returned to room 510 with a pink blanket from

room 509, put it around Juli’s shoulders, walked her out to the

Pontiac, and had her sit in the passenger seat. He drove to the

front office to drop off the motel keys and was “amaz[ed]” to find

Juli still sitting in the car when he returned.

As defendant drove away from Cedar Lodge, he wished he

“had a place to take [Juli]” and “keep her” because he “liked her

a lot.” But he also “knew . . . all the time” that he was going to

kill her. He pulled into the Vista Point parking lot at the Don

Pedro Reservoir and carried Juli down a path “like a groom

carrying a bride over the threshold.” He kissed and hugged her,

told her he wished he could keep her, and made her orally

copulate him again. He also told her that back in the room, she

had a good chance to get away because there were no bullets in

his gun. Then, defendant told her he loved her and slit her

throat with a knife three times. He cut the duct tape off her

hands and covered her body with branches and loose brush.

Defendant went back to the car, opened the trunk, cut the

bindings off Carole and Silvina, and took their clothes off to

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prevent authorities from learning they were killed in their

nightclothes. He put the bedsheet, clothing, and duct tape into

a pillowcase and closed the trunk. He threw the knife and the

roll of duct tape down the hill and drove away. He saw a vehicle

driving into the parking lot and tried to hide his face. He drove

around and threw the pillowcase containing the sheet, clothes,

and duct tape in a dumpster. He parked the car and wiped it

down to remove fingerprints. He threw away Carole’s purse, the

rope, a cosmetic bag, and some shoes in various places.

Defendant walked toward Sierra Village but returned to

the car after realizing he forgot to wipe down one part of the car.

He missed the bus because of the delay, so he used $180 of the

$200 he had taken from Carole’s purse to take a taxi to

Yosemite. He then caught a bus to Cedar Lodge. That night, he

returned to room 509 and replaced a pillowcase that had some

blood on it, made up the beds with clean sheets (but forgot one

sheet), and cleaned some blood spots from the bathtub.

On February 18, defendant returned to the Pontiac late at

night to burn it. He scratched the message “we have Sarah” into

the car (Juli had told defendant that her name was Sarah)

because he wanted authorities to think that more than one

person committed the crimes, and that “Sarah” was still alive.

Defendant also took Carole’s wallet from her purse. He poured

gasoline over the back seat, threw a match on it, ran up the hill,

and heard an explosion. He then drove to Modesto and threw

Carole’s wallet out the window as “another ploy to throw them

off.”

At some point after he burned the Pontiac, defendant

returned to the Don Pedro Reservoir where he had left Juli’s

body and retrieved the pink blanket. He put the blanket in a

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plastic bag, drove to Coulterville, and threw the bag down a hill.

He wrote the letter with the map showing the location of Juli’s

body and left an imprint on the letter of the following words,

“just another ploy to throw you guys off,” because he wanted

Juli’s body to be found. Defendant said he was ready to speak

to the FBI agents because it was “time for the killing to stop.”

d. Further investigation

On July 25, the day after his confession, defendant

accompanied the agents to several locations and told them what

they would find. For example, he directed them to the white bag

containing the pink blanket and to Vista Point, where he had

thrown the duct tape and knife. No knife was found at Vista

Point at that time (it was found later), but the end of the duct

tape roll that was found matched a piece of tape that was

recovered from Juli’s ankle.

About the same time, a taxi driver called the FBI to report

that she recognized defendant’s photograph on television

because she had driven him from Sierra Village to Yosemite on

February 16. According to the taxi driver, defendant refused to

give his name or workplace at the park entrance. He paid the

park entrance fee and cab fare with cash he took from a

backpack he was carrying.

2. Defense case

a. Forensic evidence

FBI Agent Jacob Holmes testified that latent fingerprints

he found on items recovered from the site of Juli’s murder and

in room 509 did not belong to defendant. An FBI document

examiner testified there was not enough of a sample to

determine whether the handwriting on the letter and envelope

sent to the FBI belonged to defendant.

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b. Character evidence

Several Cedar Lodge employees testified they did not

believe defendant was a violent person or the kind of person who

would prey on women or children. The owners of a glass shop at

which defendant worked from 1993 to 1995, a glass shop

employee, and the employee’s fiancée all testified that defendant

was not violent or aggressive toward women.

c. Evidence of defendant’s inability to form the

requisite mental state for murder

One morning in July 1995, one of the glass shop owners

took defendant to the county hospital after defendant was found

red-faced and teary-eyed, with bloody knuckles from punching

plywood. A few weeks before this incident, defendant was

agitated and shaking as he told a fellow employee’s fiancée that

he had always had dreams involving blood, women, and murder,

but had recently become incapable of controlling his feelings and

could not distinguish his dreams from reality. Shortly before

the murders, a guest at the Cedar Lodge saw defendant walking

around mumbling to himself.

On March 3, 1999, when Special Agent Alston interviewed

defendant as part of the investigation, the conversation ended

with a brief discussion of defendant’s brother Steven. Defendant

was “solemn” as he talked about how Steven was abducted as a

child, subsequently reunited with his family, and later died in a

motor vehicle accident.

On July 25, 1999, when defendant went with FBI agents

to the crime scenes, he was cooperative and did not try to

negotiate any benefit in exchange. At one point, Special Agent

Kenneth Hittmeier noticed defendant wipe tears or sweat from

the side of his face.

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Dr. Jose Arturo Silva, a forensic psychiatrist, testified that

defendant’s father had a history of pedophilia and exhibitionism

and that his mother had a history of depression and mild

autism. His extended family had various psychotic illnesses and

disorders. There was evidence that defendant may have

suffered a perinatal injury to his brain. According to Dr. Silva,

defendant had low emotional intelligence and poor social

judgment, consistent with autism, as evidenced by his attempt

to negotiate with FBI agents for a monetary award and access

to child pornography in prison. Defendant lacked empathy,

tended to see others as inanimate objects, had recurrent dreams

of disembodied heads, a preoccupation with Bigfoot and the

prophecies of Nostradamus, and he had a feeling that his actions

were in fulfillment of a special personal destiny. These

symptoms supported a diagnosis of personality disorder not

otherwise specified with schizoid, schizotypal, antisocial, and

narcissistic features. Dr. Silva also diagnosed defendant with

pedophilia, voyeurism, hebephilia with features of sexual

sadism, and paraphilia not otherwise specified, and anxiety

disorder not otherwise specified, with obsessive-compulsive

features. He believed defendant was suffering from severe

mental disorders at the time of the crimes.

Dr. Ruben Gur, a neuropsychologist who oversaw

defendant’s brain MRI, observed abnormalities that reflected

defendant’s poor emotional processing and difficulty

distinguishing between thoughts and reality. Dr. Joseph Wu,

who performed a PET scan of defendant’s brain, testified that

his findings suggested a traumatic brain injury, consistent with

schizophrenia, bipolar depression, or obsessive-compulsive

disorder, and psychotic symptoms. Dr. Monte Buchsbaum

agreed with Dr. Wu’s findings.

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3. Prosecution case in rebuttal

Dr. Alan Waxman questioned the reliability of Dr. Wu’s

PET scan machine and criticized the various methodology used

by Drs. Wu and Buchsbaum. Based on his own evaluation,

Dr. Waxman opined that defendant’s scan showed no

abnormalities.

4. Defense surrebuttal

Dr. Frank Wood, an expert in PET scan technology,

disagreed with Dr. Waxman that there were no abnormalities in

defendant’s brain. He testified that Dr. Wu’s methodology was

reliable, and he questioned Dr. Waxman’s qualifications to

testify as an expert.

5. Verdict

Having heard the foregoing evidence, the jury returned a

verdict convicting defendant of three murders and one

kidnapping, with true findings on enhancement allegations and

five special circumstance allegations.

B. Sanity Phase

1. Defense case

a. Evidence of hallucinations and headaches

Cedar Lodge coworker Elvia D., who knew defendant since

1997, testified about defendant telling her he had visions.

Becky T., a former neighbor who saw defendant almost every

day between 1979 and 1986, testified that defendant told her

about his headaches. Both witnesses testified that they believed

defendant was not the type of person who would sexually or

violently assault someone.

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b. Expert psychiatric evidence

Dr. Lynn Alison McInnes, a psychiatry and human

genetics expert, testified that at the time of the crimes,

defendant was suffering from intrusive, uncontrollable thoughts

and psychosis, making him unable to unambiguously know the

nature and quality of his acts. She explained that various

disorders ran in defendant’s family and that his dysfunctional

family life and early childhood traumas — including the

abduction of his brother Steven, a threatened suicide by

defendant’s father, an uncle’s molestation of defendant, Steven’s

return to the family home and his untimely death caused by a

drunk driver, defendant’s father’s molestation of defendant’s

sisters — likely contributed to his mental disorders. In addition,

when defendant was 29 years old, an uncle with whom he was

living was murdered. Defendant attempted suicide on the first

anniversary of his uncle’s death. In the months leading up to

the crimes, defendant believed he was receiving messages about

an upcoming apocalypse. This, along with the fact that

defendant was walking around mumbling to himself at Cedar

Lodge the day before the murders, showed he was in a psychotic

state.

2. Prosecution case

Forensic psychiatrist Dr. Park Dietz opined that at the

time of his crimes, defendant understood the nature and quality

of his acts and knew his acts were wrong. Dr. Dietz based his

conclusion on defendant’s methodical and careful actions,

including preparing a crime kit, concealing his fingerprints,

choosing victims with no male companion, using a ruse to enter

the victims’ room, cleaning the crime scene, killing Juli in a

remote location, burning the Pontiac, and misleading

investigators. Dr. Dietz opined “[t]here [was] nothing about

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what [defendant] was doing that he didn’t understand.” Indeed,

defendant expressly admitted to Dr. Dietz that he knew at the

time of his crimes that his actions were both illegal and wrong.

Having heard the foregoing evidence, the jury returned a

verdict finding that defendant was sane at the time of the

offenses.

C. Penalty Phase

1. Prosecution case

The prosecution relied on two aggravating factors: (1) the

nature and circumstances of the crime, including evidence

regarding the impact the crime had on the victims and their

families; and (2) defendant’s other violent criminal activity,

including, most particularly, the murder of Joie Armstrong.

a. Victim impact evidence

Raquel, Silvina’s mother, testified that she met Carole

when Carole was an exchange student in Argentina in 1973.

They were like sisters and remained friends over the years. The

Sunds visited them in Argentina when Juli was one year old.

Silvina did well in school, loved the outdoors, was a competitive

roller-skater, and had a great relationship with her family.

Silvina went to visit the Sunds in December 1998 and planned

to return to Argentina in March 1999.

When Raquel and her husband learned of Silvina’s

disappearance, they flew to the United States and remained

there until the FBI found Silvina’s remains. Raquel had

counseling, but the murder was hard on her marriage, and they

also lost their business because they were emotionally unable to

handle the work. Raquel missed playing, reading, and telling

jokes with Silvina.

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Silvina’s father, Jose, testified that Silvina was tenacious

and adventurous. She earned good grades to convince him to

give his permission for her to go to the United States to visit the

Sunds. It was the first time he and Raquel had let Silvina go

anywhere by herself. When he learned about Silvina’s

disappearance, he felt a heavy pain in his chest. When he

learned the FBI had discovered her body, he decided to throw

himself in front of a train, but his other daughter called,

interrupting his plan. He believed that Silvina, despite being

dead, had caused his other daughter to call him at that moment,

saving his life. Losing Silvina hurt him “down to [his] soul.”

Carole C., Carole Sund’s mother, testified that Carole was

outgoing and was the family organizer for gatherings. They

lived near one another and were very close. Carole, who adopted

three children after she had Juli, taught parenting classes, was

active in adoption organizations, and was a court-appointed

special advocate for abused and neglected children. Juli, who

was Carol C.’s first grandchild, was outgoing, kind, and

thoughtful.

After Carole and the girls disappeared, Carol C. waited by

the phone while her husband was in Yosemite. The discovery of

Carole and Silvina’s charred bodies was “devastating” — “[y]ou

don’t know how you’re going to survive.” For the next 10 days,

they were “desperately hoping” that Juli might still be alive, but

when they found Juli’s body, “You give up. This big hole is going

to be in your life forever.”

Francis C., Carole Sund’s father, testified that he went to

Yosemite to help with the search after hearing about the

disappearance of Carole and the girls. He broke down after the

burned car was found, but they held out hope that Juli was alive,

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until Juli’s body was found. Carole was very special to him. She

was a daredevil who loved the outdoors, and Juli was a lot like

Carole. Juli had two wishes, to own and drive a car and to have

a boyfriend; she would never have either.

b. Murder of Joie Armstrong

i. Investigation of the Armstrong murder

In July 1999, Joie Armstrong, who worked as an

instructor at the Yosemite Institute, was murdered in the

Foresta area of Yosemite.

On July 21, at around 6:30 p.m., Armstrong called her

boss’s wife, Suzanna M., and said she was going to bring over

some equipment. Suzanna M. waited about an hour, but

Armstrong never arrived, so she went to Armstrong’s cabin in

Foresta to pick up the equipment. Armstrong’s white pickup

truck was there, and the two front doors to the cabin were open.

Suzanna M. knocked, then poked her head in and called for

Armstrong but got no answer. Suzanna M. thought this was

odd, but she did not think anything was wrong and went home.

The next day, Suzanna M.’s husband told her Armstrong did not

show up to work.

On July 21, Armstrong was supposed to visit her friend in

Marin County at about 10:00 p.m. Armstrong never arrived,

and her friend called the police at about midnight.

At 7:20 p.m. on July 21, a witness saw a blue-and-white

International Scout near Foresta. The next morning, he saw the

same vehicle parked nearby, this time with a man near it.

Between 10:00 and 10:30 p.m. on July 21, Yosemite Park

Ranger Don Ramsey was driving toward El Portal when he saw

defendant standing next to a blue-and-white International

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Scout with his thumb out. Ramsey stopped and defendant said

he was having car trouble. Ramsey drove defendant to his

Cedar Lodge home. Defendant seemed normal during the drive

and carried on a “lucid and cogent” conversation.

The next morning, Yosemite Park Ranger Mark Harvey

received a missing person report concerning Armstrong. He

took two trips to Armstrong’s cabin and saw Armstrong’s truck

parked out front both times. On his first trip, he found both

front doors to the cabin open. He knocked on the doors and

called inside, but there was no answer. On his second trip, he

examined the truck and noticed luggage in the back. He checked

inside the house and saw signs that someone had been packing

a day pack. Harvey sought assistance from Yosemite National

Park’s search and rescue office. On the afternoon of July 22, the

search team discovered Armstrong’s body in a nearby creek.

An FBI Special Agent who was called to the scene saw

Armstrong’s body near the bank of the creek, partially

submerged and headless. An hour or two after the body was

found, Armstrong’s head was found about 40 feet away. The

agent also found shoe prints and tire tracks in front of

Armstrong’s house and near Armstrong’s truck. He and his

team recorded the prints with plaster castings.

A pathologist who conducted an autopsy testified that

there were abrasions and bruises all over Armstrong’s body,

incisions on her arm and hand that may have been defensive

wounds, and a large abrasion on the left side of her face. The

cause of death was exsanguination of most of the blood in the

body after suffering a deep cut across the throat. The wounds

to the neck were consistent with a person slitting Armstrong’s

throat and then decapitating her.

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On July 22, the same evening Armstrong’s body was

found, a National Park Service special agent saw defendant

driving a blue International Scout, hailed him, and told him he

was investigating a missing person report. Defendant agreed to

be interviewed at the station. During the interview, defendant

mentioned his International Scout was unique and he was the

only one in the Yosemite area who drove a vehicle like it. He

said he had car trouble the previous night and a park ranger

had given him a ride to Cedar Lodge where he worked. He

denied his vehicle was in the Foresta area the night before.

A Cedar Lodge employee and resident testified that on the

evening of July 22, defendant sold him a VCR and television for

a very low price. He paid defendant only a portion of the price

for the items, and he never saw defendant at Cedar Lodge again.

Defendant’s supervisor testified that defendant did not

usually miss work, but he did not show up on July 23 and never

returned to work. On July 23, defendant also closed his credit

union account.

ii. Defendant’s confession to the Armstrong

murder

As discussed above, FBI agents located defendant in

Wilton on July 24, 1999, and interviewed him in Sacramento.

The interview was audio recorded and transcribed, and the

prosecution played the relevant portion of the recording for the

jury. In defendant’s statement, he admitted that on the day of

the Armstrong murder, he went to Foresta carrying duct tape, a

large knife, and a .22 caliber handgun in his backpack. He was

walking near the creek because he had previously seen Bigfoot

there.

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Defendant saw Armstrong and “it clicked” when he

discovered she was alone. He pointed his gun at her and forced

her into the house, duct-taped her hands behind her back, and

gagged her. He intended to take her to an isolated area and

sexually assault her. He walked her outside and put her in his

truck as she fought him. Defendant had driven only a few

hundred yards when Armstrong jumped out through the

window and ran. Defendant caught her and slit her throat

twice. She went limp.

Defendant dragged Armstrong’s body, left it on the bank

of the creek, and returned to his truck but went back to

decapitate her and hide her body under some dry reeds. He

considered keeping the head as a trophy but, instead, placed it

in the creek. He said: “I don’t black out and do things, you know.

[¶] . . . [¶] I know what’s wrong, what’s right.” He said he

“[m]ost definitely” knew what he did was wrong, but “it’s kinda

like just a job, it’s something you have to do.”

iii. Further investigation

On July 25, 1999, the day after defendant gave the

foregoing recorded audio statement, he accompanied FBI agents

to the Armstrong crime scene and showed them where the knife

was located. On July 28, agents searched defendant’s vehicle

and found a roll of duct tape and a backpack. Inside the

backpack was a gun, a book about a serial killer, and a plastic

package of sunflower seeds with the corner torn off. The end of

the duct tape roll found in the car matched pieces of duct tape

found at the crime scene. The torn part of the sunflower seed

package matched a piece of plastic found at the crime scene.

The shoe prints found at the scene of the murder matched

the sandals defendant was wearing at his July 24 interview.

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The tire tracks found were consistent with the mismatched tires

on defendant’s International Scout.

2. Defense case

Defendant argued that his mental disorders, exacerbated

by his difficult childhood, mitigated his crimes. He also

presented evidence of his good character, his remorse, and the

likelihood he would adjust to prison in a positive way.

a. Evidence of defendant’s dysfunctional family

background

Defendant’s paternal aunt and cousin testified about the

stress in defendant’s family after Steven was abducted and how

upset defendant was after his uncle was murdered. The aunt

testified she loved defendant and wanted him to live.

Sandra A., who used to interact daily with defendant’s

family, testified that defendant’s mother neglected her children.

Defendant’s close friend testified that defendant was visibly

emotional when he told her he had discovered his uncle’s body.

Several witnesses testified about the effect Steven’s

abduction had on the family. One witness testified that

defendant prayed for Steven and cried when he talked about

him. After the abduction, defendant’s parents were so focused

on finding Steven that they neglected the other children.

According to several witnesses, defendant was excited

when Steven came home, but the attention Steven received from

the media and their parents was hard on defendant. When

Steven died in a motor vehicle accident, defendant was

heartbroken, cried, and seemed “absolutely numb.”

Defendant’s oldest sister testified she had mixed feelings

about defendant but that he was very important to her parents.

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Another sister testified that she loved defendant but they had a

difficult family life. Defendant’s youngest sister testified that

they were a happy family, and that defendant played with her

disabled son and made him happy. Defendant’s parents

testified that they loved defendant, visited him in jail

frequently, and wanted him to live.

b. Evidence of defendant’s mental health problems

Numerous witnesses testified about defendant’s

compulsive hair-pulling, troubling dreams, headaches,

psychiatric problems, and obsession with Bigfoot.

Dr. Silva evaluated defendant’s life history and testified in

detail about the various stressors he faced at different periods

in his life. He believed that, at the time of all four murders,

defendant was suffering from pervasive developmental disorder,

obsessive-compulsive disorder, various paraphilias, and a post-

traumatic-type stress disorder, which had a significant impact

on his ability to control himself. Dr. Silva did not think

defendant lost his ability to distinguish right from wrong.

Dr. Fred Berlin, an expert on sexual disorders, believed

that defendant was in recent years “beginning to lose touch with

reality,” that he was under extreme mental or emotional

disturbance at the time of his crimes, and that he acted under

extreme duress “pushing on him towards engaging in [criminal]

activities.”

c. Character evidence

Numerous witnesses, including relatives, church friends,

school friends, teachers, and coworkers, described defendant,

using terms such as quiet, nice, kind, good, fun, introverted, a

loner, shy, respectful, a gentleman, honorable, well-mannered,

considerate, and polite. Some witnesses testified about the ways

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in which defendant was supportive and helpful. Others testified

that defendant was a loner in school but was a talented

cartoonist for the school newspaper and yearbook and was not

violent or aggressive toward anyone.

d. Remorse

During his interview in Sacramento on July 24, defendant

made some statements suggesting he felt remorse about his

crimes. The defense played the audio recording of these portions

of the interview for the jury. Defendant was also cooperative

and helpful during the walk-through of the crime scenes. He

wrote an apology letter to Juli and cried when talking about her.

A federal public defender who met with defendant about

the Armstrong murder testified that defendant cried as he

discussed his crimes. Defendant pleaded guilty to the

Armstrong murder and wrote a statement expressing remorse.

At sentencing, defendant apologized to Armstrong’s family

members. He wrote to the woman who had turned him in to the

authorities after recognizing his photograph on television,

telling her he held nothing against her.

e. Positive prison adjustment

Officers from the jails in Mariposa County, Fresno County,

and Santa Clara County testified that defendant was a polite,

respectful, and cooperative prisoner who caused no trouble when

being transported to and from court.

Psychology professor Dr. Craig Haney testified as an

expert on prison adjustment. He believed defendant’s potential

for positive prison adjustment was excellent due to various

factors including his law-abiding behavior during much of his

life, his artistic ability, his willingness to accept responsibility

for his crimes, and his behavior while in jail.

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Having heard the foregoing evidence, the jury returned a

verdict of death.

II. DISCUSSION

A. Motion to Suppress Extrajudicial Statements

Before trial, defendant moved to suppress his extrajudicial

statements, including the statements he made to the FBI on

July 24 and 25, 1999. He argued the statements were obtained

in violation of his Miranda rights and were coerced and

therefore not voluntary.

At an evidentiary hearing, FBI Special Agent Rinek

testified that he and his colleagues located defendant at a resort

in Wilton on July 24, 1999. When they approached defendant,

he stood up and put his hands on his head. The agents

handcuffed defendant for safety reasons, told him he was not

under arrest, and said they wanted to interview him about a

recent, high-profile murder. Defendant agreed to be interviewed

at the FBI office in Sacramento. Defendant was then placed in

the front passenger seat of an FBI vehicle, with Rinek in the

driver’s seat. While Rinek was waiting for permission to depart,

he advised defendant of his Miranda rights. Rinek recorded

defendant’s answer, “I prefer not to talk now.”

During the 90-minute drive to Sacramento, Rinek and

defendant engaged in casual conversation. They also talked

about some of Rinek’s past cases and about defendant’s brother’s

abduction. They did not discuss any of the crimes under

investigation. Once the group arrived in Sacramento, agents

again advised defendant of his Miranda rights, and defendant

waived those rights and gave a detailed confession. Defendant’s

confession was video recorded, and the recording was admitted

as evidence and played at the suppression hearing.

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1. Miranda claim

a. Trial court ruling

The trial court denied defendant’s motion to suppress.

The court first found that because defendant was handcuffed

and seated in an FBI vehicle, he was in custody for Miranda

purposes when he spoke to Rinek in Wilton. Next, the court

considered whether Rinek’s conversation with defendant during

the ride to Sacramento violated defendant’s Miranda rights.

The court noted that Rinek gave a Miranda advisement in the

car and that defendant did not invoke his Miranda rights when

he responded, “I prefer not to talk now.” The court found that

Rinek read from an advice-of-rights form and wrote down

exactly what defendant said, including the word “now.”

“Consequently, because there is no evidence to the contrary, the

court finds that [defendant] did say, ‘I prefer not to talk now,’

simply meaning that [he] did not want to be interviewed [in

Wilton] but preferred to be interviewed at the FBI headquarters

in Sacramento.”

The court further found that Rinek — who testified he had

no specific information about the Armstrong murder and did not

know the facts of the Sund-Pelosso case — did not ask about the

murders during the car ride. Instead, they talked about

backpacking, hiking, movies, and other generic things. Rinek

also spoke with defendant about the impact of his brother’s

abduction on the family. Because it appeared defendant had not

dealt well with the issues surrounding his brother, Rinek offered

him counseling services. The court ruled that this “simple give-

and-take conversation” did not constitute an interrogation in

violation of defendant’s Miranda rights.

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The court next considered whether defendant’s Miranda

rights were violated during the interview in Sacramento. The

court summarized the circumstances, including the fact that

agents reread defendant his Miranda rights and had him sign a

waiver form, formally waiving those rights. After signing the

waiver form, defendant said he wished to be interviewed by

Rinek and proceeded to confess to his crimes.

The court found: “There is no evidence that he did not

understand his Miranda rights. There is no evidence that Agent

Rinek employed any coercive tactic to obtain incriminating

statements. [¶] . . . [N]othing in the court’s view occurred in the

90-minute car ride which would have tainted the defendant’s

waiver in Sacramento. The facts tend to show that [defendant]

fully cooperated with the FBI agents from the outset and

expressed his willingness to speak to them. In short, defendant

waived his Miranda rights knowingly, voluntarily and

intelligently at the FBI headquarters in Sacramento.”

b. Analysis

Defendant contends the FBI violated his Miranda rights,

and therefore the trial court should have suppressed the

statements he made to the FBI.

i. Defendant was in custody for purposes of

Miranda

Defendant first argues that, irrespective of the agents’

assurances that he was not under arrest and was free to leave,

he was effectively in custody when he was first handcuffed at

the resort in Wilton. Notably, the trial court agreed with

defendant (and the People conceded below) that at least as of the

moment he was placed in handcuffs inside an FBI vehicle in

Wilton, he was in custody for Miranda purposes.

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On appeal, the People contest the trial court’s in-custody

determination, arguing that defendant was handcuffed solely

for safety purposes and was told he could choose (1) whether he

would be interviewed at all and (2) the location of the interview.

We agree with the trial court that under the objective

circumstances — which included telling defendant the FBI

wanted to interview him about a high-profile murder, putting

defendant in handcuffs, and placing him inside an FBI vehicle

next to an FBI agent — a reasonable person would believe

defendant was “deprived of his freedom of action in [a]

significant way.” (Miranda, supra, 384 U.S. at p. 444; see

Stansbury v. California (1994) 511 U.S. 318, 323.) Thus,

defendant was in custody while sitting in the FBI vehicle, during

the ride to Sacramento, and while in Sacramento.

ii. Asserted invocation of rights

Defendant contends Rinek violated his Miranda rights by

talking with him during the car ride because he invoked his

Miranda rights and because the conversation tainted his

subsequent waiver of rights in Sacramento.

In reviewing Miranda claims, we “accept the trial court’s

resolution of disputed facts and inferences, and its evaluations

of credibility, if they are substantially supported. [Citations.]

However, we must independently determine from the

undisputed facts, and those properly found by the trial court,

whether the challenged statement was illegally obtained.”

(People v. Boyer (1989) 48 Cal.3d 247, 263 (Boyer); accord, People

v. Hoyt (2020) 8 Cal.5th 892, 931.) We review Miranda claims

under federal constitutional standards (People v. Sims (1993)

5 Cal.4th 405, 440) and assess any errors under the beyond a

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reasonable doubt standard of Chapman v. California (1967)

386 U.S. 18 (Chapman).

An invocation of Miranda rights must be unambiguous.

(See Berghuis v. Thompkins (2010) 560 U.S. 370, 382.) Here,

after first being read his Miranda rights, defendant responded,

“I prefer not to talk now” (italics added).3 This response, placed

in context, left the door open to speaking with police later, after

they arrived in Sacramento. (See People v. Riva (2003)

112 Cal.App.4th 981, 994 (Riva) [a defendant’s “statement he

did not want to talk anymore ‘right now’ clearly indicated he

might be willing to talk in the future”].) In other words, if

defendant invoked his Miranda rights at all, by its terms this

invocation barred interrogation for no longer than the duration

of the car ride to Sacramento.4

Yet we need not decide whether defendant’s statement, “I

prefer not to talk now,” sufficed to foreclose any interrogation

during that limited time frame. Even assuming it did,

3

Defendant argues that we should not rely on Rinek’s

“uncorroborated” testimony regarding his response to the

Miranda advisement. Defendant’s arguments essentially ask us

to reweigh the evidence, which we cannot do. (See People v.

Lindberg (2008) 45 Cal.4th 1, 27.) Further, the trial court’s

finding of what defendant said is supported by substantial

evidence, that is, by Rinek’s testimony and by a

contemporaneous notation Rinek made on the advice-of-rights

form.

4

The People argue that “I prefer not to talk now”

constituted defendant’s waiver of his Miranda rights because

those words are best interpreted as a reaffirmation of

defendant’s expressed willingness to be interviewed in

Sacramento. We disagree. Defendant’s apparent willingness to

talk at a later time does not constitute a clear waiver of his

Miranda rights at the time he entered the car with Rinek.

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defendant made no incriminating statements to Rinek during

the car ride. Indeed, Rinek did not ask defendant anything

about the Sund-Pelosso murders. In short, the prosecution did

not use anything defendant told Rinek during the car ride to

Sacramento to establish defendant’s guilt, and, notably,

defendant does not point to any statement he made in the car to

Rinek that prejudiced him.

Further, it does not appear that the conversation was part

of a strategy designed to wear defendant down emotionally, thus

making him more willing to confess. (See People v. Gurule

(2002) 28 Cal.4th 557, 602 (Gurule) [no evidence the officers’

“small talk overbore defendant’s free will”]; cf. Smith v. Illinois

(1984) 469 U.S. 91, 98 [noting the risk that authorities might

“wear down the accused and persuade him to incriminate

himself notwithstanding his earlier request for counsel’s

assistance”].)

People v. Honeycutt (1977) 20 Cal.3d 150 (Honeycutt), on

which defendant relies, is distinguishable. There, the police

detective had known the defendant for about 10 years. (Id. at

p. 158.) Without giving Miranda warnings, the detective talked

with the defendant about the homicide victim in the case the

detective was investigating. (Ibid.) The detective observed the

defendant “ ‘was softening up’ ” and continued the conversation

until the defendant indicated a willingness to discuss the

homicide. (Ibid.) Only at that point was the defendant advised

of his Miranda rights. (Id. at p. 159.) On this record, we

concluded (in dictum since we had already determined on

unrelated grounds that the judgment must be reversed) that the

officer employed a “conversation-warning-interrogation

sequence . . . intended to elicit a confession” and that the

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statements should have been suppressed. (Ibid.; see id. at

p. 161.)

No analogous “clever softening-up of a defendant” was

employed here. (Honeycutt, supra, 20 Cal.3d at p. 160.) First,

unlike Honeycutt, defendant was read his Miranda rights before

the conversation took place. Second, here, unlike Honeycutt, the

casual conversation did not include a discussion of any of the

crime victims. Finally, although discussing Steven’s abduction

may have made defendant emotional, there is no indication that

Rinek was deliberately pursuing a “conversation-warning-

interrogation sequence . . . intended to elicit a confession.” (Id.

at p. 159.) As Rinek testified, he did not expect to be conducting

defendant’s interview once the group arrived in Sacramento,

and their conversation “was a friendly exchange between two

people that were kind of thrust together.”

Moreover, the conversation about Steven’s abduction was

just one of many things discussed during the long drive, it was

unrelated to the four murders, and it was not likely to lead to an

incriminating response (see Rhode Island v. Innis (1980)

446 U.S. 291, 301). Because of the widespread publicity

surrounding the abduction, it was also a natural subject of

discussion, as can be seen from the fact that the same subject

came up when Special Agent Alston interviewed defendant as a

potential witness, long before he was considered a suspect.

There is no indication that Rinek’s inquiry about the abduction

was different from Alston’s inquiry, or that it was part of a

softening up strategy analogous to the facts of Honeycutt.

Hence, the dictum in Honeycutt does not support defendant’s

argument.

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Nor is this case like Brewer v. Williams (1977) 430 U.S.

387, where the defendant, who was a suspect in a child

abduction, was given Miranda warnings and his lawyer assured

him the police would not interrogate him while transporting him

to the police station where the lawyer was waiting for him. (Id.

at pp. 390–391.) While transporting the defendant, a detective

urged the defendant to disclose the location of the victim’s body

so that the victim could have a “ ‘Christian burial.’ ” (Id. at

p. 393.) The high court concluded the conversation was an

interrogation in violation of the defendant’s federal

constitutional right to counsel. (Id. at pp. 401, 406.) Here,

Rinek did not ask defendant about any of the victims, nor did he

ask defendant to lead him to evidence related to those crimes.

The comparison to Brewer is inapt.

For the foregoing reasons, even assuming an effective

invocation, we find no prejudicial error. (Chapman, supra,

386 U.S. at p. 24.)

iii. Waiver of Miranda rights preceding

questioning in Sacramento

As noted, defendant’s initial response after being read his

Miranda rights was consistent with a preference to be

interviewed in Sacramento. Therefore, after defendant arrived

in Sacramento, the officers were permitted to ask again whether

he would be willing to waive his rights and give a statement.

(See Riva, supra, 112 Cal.App.4th at p. 994.) In Sacramento,

and prior to any questioning about the crimes, defendant was

again advised of his Miranda rights, and he voluntarily waived

them and signed the waiver form. He then asked to speak alone

with Rinek. Because the confession followed a voluntary waiver

by defendant of his Miranda rights (see People v. Combs (2004)

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34 Cal.4th 821, 845), we conclude the trial court did not err in

denying defendant’s Miranda claim.5

2. Undue coercion

a. Trial court ruling

Concerning the question of voluntariness, the trial court

found no evidence that Rinek or any other agent “utilized any

form of coercion, promises of leniency, or deception in order to

obtain the statement from [defendant].” The court found that

the fact that defendant was “on the verge of crying” in the

interview room did not make his confession involuntary. The

court watched the confession video and reviewed the transcript

and found that although some interrogation techniques were

used, “nothing occurred to negate the finding that the

defendant’s statement was a product of his free will and choice.”

b. Analysis

Defendant argues his statement to the FBI was the

product of coercive interrogation techniques. We disagree.

“It long has been held that the due process clause of the

Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

makes inadmissible any involuntary statement obtained by a

law enforcement officer from a criminal suspect by coercion.”

(People v. Neal (2003) 31 Cal.4th 63, 79.) “[T]he terms ‘coerced’

and ‘involuntary’ confessions . . . refer to confessions obtained by

5

Defendant was also advised of his Miranda rights several

times the next day, when accompanying FBI agents to the

various crime scenes to locate evidence. Defendant does not

raise a distinct claim regarding those advisements and the

inculpatory extrajudicial statements that followed them.

Instead, he argues the July 25 waivers were tainted by the

events of July 24, 1999.

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physical or psychological coercion, by promises of leniency or

benefit, or when the ‘totality of circumstances’ indicates the

confession was not a product of the defendant’s ‘free and rational

choice.’ ” (People v. Cahill (1993) 5 Cal.4th 478, 482, fn. 1.)

“Voluntariness does not turn on any one fact, no matter how

apparently significant, but rather on the ‘totality of [the]

circumstances.’ ” (Neal, at p. 79.) When a defendant challenges

the voluntariness of a confession, the reviewing court applies an

independent standard of review (id. at p. 80), but the trial

court’s factual findings regarding the circumstances

surrounding the confession will be upheld if supported by

substantial evidence (People v. Massie (1998) 19 Cal.4th 550,

576).

Defendant argues that the FBI agents — particularly,

Rinek6 — used subtle psychological techniques to wear him

down and lure him into confessing, and that such techniques

were so overbearing that his confession cannot be considered

voluntary. Defendant notes that, even before they were in the

FBI vehicle, Rinek asked him about his brother’s abduction.

Rinek continued to ask about the abduction during the ride to

Sacramento and presented himself as being experienced in the

field of child abduction offenses. Ultimately, defendant’s eyes

teared up. Rinek then used defendant’s emotional reaction as

an excuse for discussing the importance of “closure” for crime

victims, and he offered counseling to defendant so he could have

that “closure.” Defendant argues that Rinek tried to present

himself as an ally and set up an argument that defendant’s

6

Special Agent John Boles participated intermittently in

defendant’s interrogation.

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victims also needed closure which only defendant’s confession

could provide.

When the FBI agents and defendant arrived in

Sacramento, and after the second Miranda advisement,

defendant told Rinek that he was the victim of sexual

molestation when he was 11 years old. Rinek reassured

defendant that he was fundamentally a good person whose

actions were explainable based on all the problems he had faced.

When defendant revealed that his internal mental world was

“like a tennis match,” constantly volleying between thoughts of

“world peace” and thoughts of “kill[ing] every person on the face

of the earth,” Rinek told defendant that he has “taken control”

and “[t]oday is the beginning of the rest of your life.” He assured

defendant that it was not his fault that he had been abused.

Rinek added: “[D]on’t you think it’s time that we dealt with it

now and get rid of these demons . . . ? Doesn’t mean you’re a bad

person, it just means you’re a troubled person. Now, if you’ve

done bad things and you feel that society will ask you to pay for

those bad things, maybe that’ll happen, but in the end, . . . we’ll

both know we did what we thought was right, and we took

control and that’s the bottom line.”

Defendant asserts Rinek also exploited his emotional

vulnerability during the Sacramento interview by repeatedly

urging him to disclose the details of his crimes, assuring him

that doing so was the right thing to do and would make him feel

better. For example, Rinek told defendant: “Do you realize that

I don’t think you’re a bad person and that even after all that

stuff you told me, I don’t feel any differently about you.” He

added that defendant was “gonna feel a lot of relief” “when we’re

done.” When defendant conceded that his chest hurt, Rinek

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assured him that he was going to feel “good” and “peaceful,

probably a feeling you haven’t had in a long time.”

Then, after defendant predicted he would be sentenced to

death, Rinek reassured him, saying: “I’ll be there for you as long

as it goes, as far as it goes, because I believe in you. I’d like you

to stop for a moment, Cary, and think about the fact that you’re

giving life, you’re giving life back, and you appear to me to be a

person that cares about that. You’re going to restore life that’s

been taken.” Defendant argues Rinek minimized the

wrongfulness of defendant’s actions, saying: “I don’t think

there’s a person out there that can listen to what you’ve been

through in your life and not have some feeling of sorrow and

understanding for you. I personally believed when I met you

and we were riding in the car that you were an explosive, pent-

up ball of emotion, or you were a psychopath. I’m quite relieved

to know you’re not a psychopath and that you’re a good person.”

Rinek said defendant was a “good person” who was made to do

bad things by “things happening in you that you can’t control,”

and that he was “doing the hardest, bravest thing in your life,

and I’m honored that you trusted me to do this with.”

Rinek also said, “We’ll make sure that you’re not living

with Bubba,” which defendant interprets as a promise of safe

housing in prison in exchange for his confession. Rinek also

said: “I’m gonna try and look after your family for ya. . . . You

remember what I said about your family in the car? They were

victims, too, and they’re about to be victimized again, aren’t

they?”

Finally, Rinek said: “So do you realize here that you’re

holding the welfare of a lot of people in your hands, and when I

told you you have a gift to give, that’s the gift. If you give the

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gift to me or me and [Special Agent Boles] and allow us to

distribute what you’ve given us to bring people the closure and

the peace that you’ve never had to experience, then you’re

doing — you’re being a hero.” Rinek explained that a coward is

someone who does the right thing out of fear or to gain a benefit,

whereas a hero is someone who does the right thing simply

because it is right.

Defendant asserts these statements, by placing extreme

psychological pressure on him, led to an involuntary confession.

We disagree. “The courts have prohibited only those

psychological ploys which, under all the circumstances, are so

coercive that they tend to produce a statement that is both

involuntary and unreliable.” (People v. Ray (1996) 13 Cal.4th

313, 340 (Ray).) Urging a witness to confess by winning the

witness’s trust and appealing to the witness’s sense of morality

are not practices likely to produce an involuntary and unreliable

confession. Nor are investigators prohibited from expressing

compassion for someone they are interrogating, and they are

permitted to remind the subject of an interrogation of the

emotional and psychological benefits of confessing. “ ‘In terms

of assessing inducements assertedly offered to a suspect,

“ ‘[w]hen the benefit pointed out by the police . . . is merely that

which flows naturally from a truthful and honest course of

conduct,’ the subsequent statement will not be considered

involuntarily made.” ’ ” (People v. Tully (2012) 54 Cal.4th 952,

993 (Tully).)

Defendant argues the FBI agents used promises of various

rewards to coerce his confession. Defendant focuses on Rinek’s

offer to obtain counseling for him and his assurance that

defendant would not be housed with anyone who was hostile

toward him. These assurances do not establish the sort of

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coercion that would render the confession involuntary. The offer

to get counseling was not a promise made in exchange for a

confession. Indeed, at the time Rinek made the offer during the

car ride to Sacramento, defendant had not suggested he was

involved in the crimes. Although the FBI agents believed

defendant might be involved in the Armstrong murder and

might be dangerous, Rinek did not know whether defendant was

to be interviewed as a witness or as a suspect.

Likewise, any offer to obtain safe housing for defendant

was not conditioned on defendant’s confession or offered as a

reward for his confession. Although an offer of benefits in

exchange for a confession can be implied in some circumstances,

nothing about the offers made here suggests that they induced

defendant to confess. The other interrogation techniques —

expressing interest in defendant’s personal struggles,

presenting themselves as an ally, appealing to defendant’s sense

of morality, and reminding defendant of the relief he would feel

after confessing — did not render the confession involuntary or

unreliable. Significantly, defendant said he was willing to be

interviewed, the interview was not unduly prolonged or

confrontational, he was assured he was not under arrest, he was

offered food, drink, and breaks, and he declined treatment for

his chest pain, implying the pain was emotional, not physical.

Defendant compares this case to People v. Hogan (1982)

31 Cal.3d 815, where this court condemned police questioning

that “repeatedly suggested to [the defendant] that he was

unquestionably guilty and that he suffered from mental illness.”

(Id. at p. 843.) In addition, the defendant in Hogan was “sobbing

and crying” during the police interview, “vomiting at times,” and

police used “manufactured evidence of his guilt” to wear down

his “will to resist.” (Id. at p. 842.) Nothing like that occurred

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here. Investigators in this case did not repeatedly accuse

defendant of being guilty; rather, defendant readily admitted

his guilt. The FBI agents merely encouraged defendant to tell

the details of his crimes and thus to unburden his conscience,

and defendant did so. In addition, Rinek never suggested to

defendant that he was mentally ill; instead, he expressed

understanding regarding defendant’s difficult past and offered

to obtain counseling for him.

In sum, the trial court did not err in finding defendant’s

confession to be voluntary and in denying defendant’s

suppression motion on that ground. Accordingly, we find no

violation of defendant’s state or federal constitutional rights.

3. Exclusion of expert testimony regarding

interrogation techniques

In a related argument, defendant contends the trial court

erred by refusing to hear the testimony of Dr. Richard A. Leo,

an expert in interrogation techniques. The defense sought to

offer Dr. Leo’s testimony in support of its motion to suppress

defendant’s confession. At the hearing on the admissibility of

this testimony, defendant argued the evidence rebutted Rinek’s

testimony that he did not employ any special interrogation

techniques when interviewing defendant. The trial court

determined the professor’s expert opinion was not relevant and

would not assist the court because the court had watched the

video and read the transcript, and “[i]f somebody is simply going

to tell me that this is an investigative technique [¶] . . . [¶] . . .

th[at] type of testimony would not assist the court.”

Defendant contends the trial court’s ruling deprived him

of a fair trial and a fair appeal, in violation of multiple

constitutional provisions. We conclude the court acted within

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its discretion in declining to hear defendant’s expert evidence.

(See People v. McDowell (2012) 54 Cal.4th 395, 425–426

(McDowell) [describing abuse of discretion standard of review].)

The determination whether a recorded confession is voluntary

or coerced is one that courts can, and often do, make without the

assistance of expert testimony.

In condemning the trial court’s adoption of what he

characterizes as a “per se rule of exclusion,” defendant relies on

People v. Linton (2013) 56 Cal.4th 1146, but the case is not

helpful for defendant’s position. In Linton, the defendant sought

to present Dr. Leo’s testimony regarding interrogation

techniques to a jury to assist it in evaluating the truthfulness of

the defendant’s admissions. (Id. at pp. 1179–1181.) This court

held that the trial court did not abuse its discretion by excluding

the evidence under Evidence Code section 352. (Linton, at

pp. 1180–1182). In reaching this conclusion, we explained that

“the trial court . . . did not exclude the testimony of Dr. Leo

based on a conclusion that this type of expert testimony was

inadmissible per se” and instead had simply regarded it as

unhelpful in light of the specific facts before it. (Id. at p. 1183.)

Here, defendant sought to admit the testimony of Dr. Leo

that he identified “a number of very well established

interrogation ploys” that were used during defendant’s

interrogation. However, like the trial court in Linton, the court

determined that Dr. Leo’s opinion would not be helpful

considering the evidence before it. Indeed, without the expert’s

testimony, the court found “that there were interrogation

techniques employed during the course of [defendant’s]

interview.” Thus, the trial court in the instant matter did not

exercise a per se rule of exclusion. It merely determined that

Dr. Leo’s testimony would not be useful. And the court had

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discretion to decide whether expert testimony would assist it in

resolving the voluntariness question, and we defer to its exercise

of that discretion. (See McDowell, supra, 54 Cal.4th at pp. 425–

426.)

Moreover, despite the court’s finding that interrogation

techniques were used in interviewing defendant, it nevertheless

concluded those techniques did not render defendant’s

confession involuntary.

Accordingly, the trial court did not abuse its discretion in

refusing to hear the testimony of Dr. Leo, and for the same

reason, the court did not violate defendant’s state or federal

constitutional rights.

B. Arrest Without Probable Cause

Defendant also moved to suppress his confessions

pursuant to section 1538.5, alleging that his arrest in Wilton

was unsupported by probable cause, and that his subsequent

confession was therefore the fruit of an unlawful arrest. The

trial court denied the motion without holding an evidentiary

hearing, relying on a stipulation by the parties to the facts

stated in the parties’ moving papers. These stipulated facts

generally correspond to the facts described in part I.C.1.b.i.,

ante, regarding the evidence gathered during the investigation

of the Armstrong murder. But the stipulated facts did not

include the fact that defendant closed his credit union account.

In addition, the stipulated facts noted that the tire treads on

defendant’s International Scout vehicle reflected two different

tire brands and were consistent with the mixed-brand tire

tracks found at Armstrong’s house. Finally, the stipulated facts

conceded that defendant was expressly told he was not under

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arrest, a status that changed only after defendant gave his

confession.

1. Trial court ruling

The trial court determined that defendant was not under

arrest when he was detained in Wilton, and that he voluntarily

agreed to travel to Sacramento with the FBI agents. The court

also said that even assuming defendant was under de facto

arrest, the stipulated facts constituted probable cause to arrest

him in connection with the Armstrong murder. The court

explained: “[T]he last contact that was had with Joie Armstrong

was on July 21st at approximately 6:30 [p.m.] when apparently

there was some contact with her in this area of Yosemite

National Park, Foresta. [¶] . . . Now, on the same evening,

July 21st, a park [employee] . . . told authorities that he had

seen a white over light blue International Scout in the area of

Armstrong’s home at approximately 7:30, which would be

approximately one hour after she was last heard from. [¶]

Another park employee . . . told authorities he had picked up a

hitchhiker on the same evening, July 21st, between

approximately ten and 10:30 on Highway 140 outside the park

and approximately three miles from the Foresta scene where

Ms. Armstrong was found. [¶] The ranger told the investigators

that the male hitchhiker was standing out by a white over light

blue International Scout which he said had broken down, and

that agent or ranger agreed to drive the unidentified hitchhiker

to Cedar Lodge, where he lived.

“Now, the next evening was July 22nd. . . . [T]he

defendant . . . then came to the Yosemite ranger station to be

interviewed. [¶] And during the interview, the defendant

denied that he was ever in the area of Foresta on July 21st, the

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day before. But apparently he said he had had mechanical

difficulties with his International Scout while traveling on

Highway 140 several times that day, that he had owned that

particular vehicle for approximately ten years, that it was

somewhat unique. He was the only person who drove it. He

admitted that his Scout had broken down coming out of

Yosemite Valley on July 21st, and he admitted that he was given

a ride by the ranger to his residence at the Cedar Lodge. And

prior to leaving that interview on the 22nd, he told the

authorities, ‘If you have any further questions for me, you can

contact me at Cedar Lodge on the 23rd,’ which was the next day.

“Now, during the time that [defendant] was being

interviewed on the 22nd at the ranger Yosemite station, agents

took photographs of tires of his vehicle. And the next day on the

23rd they were compared to the tire sketches that were made of

the four tire tracks located at the Foresta crime scene. The

agent found that the defendant’s tires, including the mixed set

of [tire] brands on the vehicle, were consistent with the tracks

found at Foresta. Based upon that, the agents from the FBI —

and this is a reasonable conclusion — wanted to relocate and

contact the defendant at Cedar Lodge to further interview him.

And they were advised that he was not there, that he had failed

to appear for work. [¶] The manager indicated that [defendant]

had never failed to appear for work for at least a year and a half.

Another employee they spoke to said he never failed to appear

for work for at least three years, and they were also told that the

night before, which is the night . . . of the interview at the ranger

station wherein he spoke with the agents, that night he had

been selling some of his personal property, to wit: a television

set and a VCR.

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“Now, based upon those facts, the issue is are those facts

sufficient for a temporary detention, or are they sufficient for a

detention which might be prolonged over and above a temporary

detention by further investigation? And are they sufficient[,] in

fact probable cause[,] to issue an arrest warrant or to make an

on-view arrest based on probable cause? [¶] . . . [¶] In the

court’s view this custody is akin at the very minimum to a

detention for further investigation. And this happens all the

time in the field where people are detained for further

investigation as to a robbery, a burglary, a murder, a rape, and

they are brought from one location to another location for

purposes of an in-field identification for purposes of an

interview. [¶] . . . [¶] Now, it is true that a detention can

become a de facto arrest. I will say in this particular case that

if I were a magistrate or a judge and the FBI or police officials

had come to me with an affidavit in support of an arrest

warrant, and the affidavit in question recited the facts that I

recited for the record, in my view those facts would be sufficient

probable cause to issue a warrant for his arrest. [¶] . . . [¶] The

court finds that even if it would be held that this was more than

a temporary detention for investigation, that in the court’s view

there was sufficient probable cause to arrest the defendant. For

that reason the motion to suppress his statement as a product

of an illegal detention or arrest is ordered denied.”

2. Analysis

a. De facto arrest

When defendant was first handcuffed in Wilton, and again

while he was being interviewed, FBI agents told him he was not

under arrest and was free to leave. Defendant sat in the front

seat of the FBI vehicle, not in the back seat where arrestees

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would typically be placed. But defendant asserts that once he

was handcuffed, he was under de facto arrest because he was

not at liberty to go about his business. (See Kaupp v. Texas

(2003) 538 U.S. 626, 629 [“A seizure of the person . . . occurs

when, ‘taking into account all of the circumstances surrounding

the encounter, the police conduct would “have communicated to

a reasonable person that he was not at liberty to ignore the

police presence and go about his business” ’ ”]; see also Boyer,

supra, 48 Cal.3d at pp. 267–268.) Like the trial court, we need

not decide whether defendant was under de facto arrest, because

the stipulated facts provided probable cause for the FBI agents

to arrest defendant as soon as they contacted him.

b. Probable cause

“When the seizure of a person amounts to an arrest, it

must be supported by an arrest warrant or by probable cause.

[Citation.] Probable cause exists when the facts known to the

arresting officer would persuade someone of ‘reasonable caution’

that the person to be arrested has committed a crime. [Citation.]

‘[P]robable cause is a fluid concept — turning on the assessment

of probabilities in particular factual contexts. . . .’ [Citation.] It

is incapable of precise definition. [Citation.] ‘ “The substance of

all the definitions of probable cause is a reasonable ground for

belief of guilt,” ’ and that belief must be ‘particularized with

respect to the person to be . . . seized.’ ” (People v. Celis (2004)

33 Cal.4th 667, 673 (Celis).) The trial court’s application of the

law to the facts of the case is subject to independent review.

(People v. Woods (1999) 21 Cal.4th 668, 673–674; People v. Price

(1991) 1 Cal.4th 324, 409.)

We conclude the probable cause standard is met here in

light of the following circumstances: (1) Armstrong was

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murdered in a very remote location, in a small community of

rustic cabins accessible only by a windy one-lane service road;

(2) a witness saw a vehicle matching defendant’s unique blue

and white International Scout parked in the same area about an

hour after the murder occurred; (3) defendant admitted to

hitchhiking a few miles from where the murder occurred, about

four hours after the murder; (4) the tire treads on defendant’s

International Scout came from two different tire brands and

were consistent with the mixed-brand tire tracks found at the

murder scene; (5) on the same evening defendant was

interviewed by park rangers about Armstrong’s murder, he sold

valuable personal items at low prices; and (6) the day after this

same interview, defendant did not show up for work despite

reports that he had never before failed to do so.

Those facts are enough to provide a reasonable ground for

believing that defendant was involved in the murder of

Armstrong and guilty of a crime. They suggest he was parked

at Armstrong’s remote house near the time she was murdered

and that he fled with no intent to return after being questioned

by park rangers. (See People v. Mims (1992) 9 Cal.App.4th 1244,

1249 [“An inference that an individual is engaging or has just

engaged in criminal conduct may be drawn where that

individual, knowing that police are approaching, flees or

engages in other activity indicative of an effort to avoid

apprehension or police contact”]; In re Rafael V. (1982)

132 Cal.App.3d 977, 983 [“flight can constitute evidence of

consciousness of guilt which can be coupled with other relevant

facts in determining probable cause”].) Here, the pieces of

circumstantial evidence implicating defendant are mutually

reinforcing, and taken together, they are sufficient to give the

FBI agents probable cause to arrest defendant as soon as they

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contacted him in Wilton.7 And because the agents had probable

cause to arrest defendant, doing so by way of a de facto arrest

did not violate his state or federal constitutional rights.

All the cases defendant cites involved situations in which

the police possessed less inculpatory evidence than the police

possessed in this case. (See Hayes v. Florida (1985) 470 U.S.

811, 812 [the defendant and 30 to 40 other men “generally fit

the description of the assailant,” and the pattern on the soles of

his shoes matched shoe prints found near the victim’s porch];

Boyer, supra, 48 Cal.3d at p. 263, fn. 6 [“police suspicions rested

principally on the ‘long shot’ suggestion of [another suspect] that

[the] defendant might be the killer because he had done

gardening work for the [victims], owed them money, often

carried a sheath knife, was violent when drunk, and had

suddenly begun calling [the other suspect] after being out of

touch for several months”]; People v. Gonzalez (1998)

64 Cal.App.4th 432, 438–440 [two men, one Black and one

Hispanic, had robbed a liquor store; the defendant was

7

Defendant suggests that the three FBI agents who first

contacted him in Wilton may not have been informed of the

evidence implicating him and that those agents had no basis for

making an arrest. (See Celis, supra, 33 Cal.4th at p. 673

[“Probable cause exists when the facts known to the arresting

officer would persuade” (italics added)].) The stipulated facts

suggest that at least Hittmeier, who was the supervisor, and

probably Boles, were informed about the Armstrong murder and

investigation. Indeed, Boles, who handcuffed defendant, had

requested assistance from the county sheriff’s department,

describing defendant as “a possible [section] 187 [murder]

suspect.” Rinek, who drove to Wilton in a separate vehicle with

defendant and testified he did not know whether defendant was

to be interviewed as a witness or a suspect, may not have had

the same information as the other agents.

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Hispanic, and nine days after the robbery, he was riding as a

passenger in a car linked to the robbery].)

C. Jury Selection Issues

Defendant argues the court improperly granted

prosecution challenges for cause and improperly denied defense

challenges for cause. We disagree.

1. Legal principles

A criminal defendant has the right to an impartial jury.

(Cal. Const., art. I, § 16; U.S. Const., 6th & 14th Amends.) But

in a capital case, a prospective juror’s abstract views about the

death penalty, whether in support or opposition, do not

necessarily indicate that the prospective juror is partial or

biased, for a person might disagree with a particular law but

still be able to put those views aside and apply the law in a

specific case in an impartial manner. “A [person] who opposes

the death penalty, no less than one who favors it, can make the

discretionary judgment entrusted to him by the State and can

thus obey the oath he takes as a juror.” (Witherspoon v. Illinois

(1968) 391 U.S. 510, 519.) Accordingly, “[a] trial court should

only dismiss a prospective juror for cause if the prospective

juror’s views on the death penalty would ‘ “prevent or

substantially impair” ’ that person from performing the duties

of a juror.” (People v. Silveria and Travis (2020) 10 Cal.5th 195,

246 (Silveria and Travis).) The prospective juror’s bias “need

not be demonstrated with unmistakable clarity”; rather, “the

trial court need only be left with a definite impression that the

prospective juror is unable or unwilling to faithfully and

impartially follow the law.” (People v. Thompson (2016)

1 Cal.5th 1043, 1066.)

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“In reviewing the trial court’s determination, we apply a

‘rule of deference’ [citation] based on the trial court’s ability to

assess the demeanor and credibility of the prospective witness.”

(People v. Capistrano (2014) 59 Cal.4th 830, 859 (Capistrano).)

“During voir dire, jurors commonly supply conflicting or

equivocal responses to questions directed at their potential bias

or incapacity to serve. When such conflicting or equivocal

answers are given, the trial court, through its observation of the

juror’s demeanor as well as through its evaluation of the juror’s

verbal responses, is best suited to reach a conclusion regarding

the juror’s actual state of mind. [Citation.] ‘ “ ‘There is no

requirement that a prospective juror’s bias against the death

penalty be proven with unmistakable clarity. [Citations.]

Rather, it is sufficient that the trial judge is left with the definite

impression that a prospective juror would be unable to faithfully

and impartially apply the law in the case before the juror.’ ” ’

[Citation.] . . . ‘Thus, when there is ambiguity in the prospective

juror’s statements, “the trial court, aided as it undoubtedly [is]

by its assessment of [the venireman’s] demeanor, [is] entitled to

resolve it in favor of the State.” ’ ” (People v. Jones (2012)

54 Cal.4th 1, 41; see People v. Mataele (2022) 13 Cal.5th 372,

395 (Mataele).)8 We affirm if substantial evidence supports the

trial judge’s determination. (People v. Baker (2021) 10 Cal.5th

1044, 1085–1086; People v. Amezcua and Flores (2019) 6 Cal.5th

886, 906; People v. Spencer (2018) 5 Cal.5th 642, 660–661.)

8

We decline defendant’s request that we reconsider our

holdings regarding appellate court deference to the trial court’s

determination.

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2. Prosecution challenges for cause

a. Prospective Juror Linda A.

Prospective juror Linda A. indicated on her juror

questionnaire that she was “[a]lways against” the death penalty

and her religious beliefs might “[s]omewhat” impact her decision

as a juror in a death case. The court asked her: “[I]n all cases

where you might be asked to make that decision, death or life in

prison without the possibility of parole, because of your religious

beliefs [would you] automatically vote against the death penalty

and vote to impose life in prison without the possibility of

parole?” Linda A. answered: “I would vote that way.” The court

asked: “Would it be automatic?” Linda A. answered: “Yes.” The

court then asked: “[C]an you ever imagine yourself in a case of

this type where somebody is charged with three counts of

murder, with numerous special circumstances alleged to be true,

can you ever imagine yourself voting for death?” Linda A.

answered: “I don’t believe so.” The court continued: “Would

that again be automatic that you would vote for life in prison

without the possibility of parole?” Linda A. answered: “Yes.”

The court asked whether that was because of her religious belief,

and she answered: “Yes.”

Defense counsel asked Linda A. whether her personal

beliefs were so strong that they would prevent her from

following the law. Linda A. said: “The law, no.” Defense counsel

then said: “All we need is to know whether or not you could go

into this case open to both penalties without committing yes,

you’d always do this, you’d always do that.” Linda A. answered:

“I can’t say absolutely that I would not or could not be

swayed. . . . [¶] . . . [¶] I wouldn’t want to. I’ll put it that way.”

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During the prosecutor’s questioning, Linda A. reiterated

that she was against the death penalty and did “not have the

moral right to take another person’s life.” She stated that

“[t]aking a life is immoral and it’s barbaric.” When asked

whether she could fairly consider the death penalty rather than

life in prison without the possibility of parole, she said: “I can’t

honestly say I wouldn’t go with the majority [¶] . . . [¶] . . .

because I wouldn’t want to be the only one on the jury to say ‘no’

if it turned out that they were all staring at me in the end.” The

prosecutor reminded her that the parties are entitled to her

personal view without concern for the views of other jurors. She

then said: “[S]ay, for instance, the evidence showed that he was

totally guilty and that he did these crimes, having not been in

that situation, having not seen that type of evidence, if it

happened right this moment, I would probably say I don’t

believe in the death penalty. Having seen all the evidence later,

I don’t know.”

The prosecutor challenged Linda A. for cause, and the

court excused her, stating that “her state of mind” was that she

would not consider the death penalty “based on biblical and

moral reasons” and that the court was “convinced” based on its

own questioning of Linda A. that “her views on capital

punishment would prevent or substantially impair the

performance of her duties as a juror in accordance with the

instructions and her oath.”

We conclude the court did not err in dismissing Linda A.

for cause. Linda A. stated twice that she would automatically

vote against the death penalty, in favor of life in prison, due to

her religious beliefs. However, she also told defense counsel that

she could “follow[] the law” despite her personal beliefs.

Further, she told defense counsel that she “wouldn’t want to” be

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swayed by other jurors to vote for the death penalty. Later,

Linda A. reiterated she was against the death penalty because

“taking a life is immoral and it’s barbaric.” Considering the

ambiguous responses Linda A. provided, the trial court was in

the best situation to assess her credibility. (See Mataele, supra,

13 Cal.5th at p. 395; People v. Jones, supra, 54 Cal.4th at p. 41.)

In such situations, when the prospective juror’s comments are

equivocal or conflicting, the trial court’s determination of that

person’s state of mind is binding. (People v. Clark (2011)

52 Cal.4th 856, 895 (Clark).) Against this background, the

record supports the court’s decision to excuse Linda A. for cause.

b. Prospective Juror Ellen R.

Prospective juror Ellen R. indicated on her juror

questionnaire that she was opposed to the death penalty. In

response to defense counsel’s questioning, she stated she was

90 percent against the death penalty but would be open to it in

an “extreme case” such as “Hitler” or a person who “committed

continual murders.” She said she would “keep[] [her] mind open

to both death and life until after [she had] heard all the

evidence.”

The court asked Ellen R. if she would automatically vote

for life in prison, and she responded: “That’s a hard one. I don’t

know. I would — I would say I would tend to go for life versus

death [¶] . . . [¶] as a general rule.” Ellen R. said she was

inclined not to vote for death for someone like defendant on the

ground that he was insane. The court asked if she could see

herself voting for death in a case like this, and she answered,

“No.” She added: “Given the information or the circumstances

of the deaths, I would, in my personal opinion, . . . feel that if

this person did these things, he would not be legally of sound

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mind. I don’t think anyone could commit those crimes and be

sane.” The court then asked: “[B]ased upon your state of mind,

your background, your philosophy, your feelings about the

penalty, in a case of this type . . . , [suppose] you found the

defendant is guilty, you found him to be legally sane at the time,

you’ve heard the evidence presented to you by the defense, by

the People as it bears upon this issue of penalty or punishment,

could you, as an individual, vote death?” Ellen R. answered:

“Yes.”

Next, when questioned by the prosecution, Ellen R. agreed

that based on the crimes alleged in this case, she would not want

the case to reach the penalty phase, and she would “have a

tendency to want to find [defendant] insane in the sanity phase

of trial.” In addition, when asked whether, aside from extreme

cases like that of Hitler, she could envision the type of crime that

would warrant the death penalty, she said: “No. . . . [I]f

someone kills someone, I don’t think justice is to kill the person

in return.”

The prosecution challenged Ellen R. for cause, and the

court excused her, stating “she’s been fairly unequivocal in the

sense that she strongly opposes the death penalty. . . . [¶] I

think she’s committed to a position almost to the point where

she doesn’t almost want to even face the prospect and where she

might in fact consider penalty or punishment in the sanity phase

just to preclude her from having to make that decision. . . . I

think she is substantially impaired as to this penalty issue.

So, . . . the challenge for cause will be granted.”

We conclude the court did not err in excusing Ellen R. for

cause. Ellen R. was consistent in saying that she was 90 percent

opposed to the death penalty and would vote for it only in an

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“extreme case” such as “Hitler” or a person who “committed

continual murders.” She also said she would be inclined to find

defendant insane at the sanity phase in part to avoid voting in

favor of death. Although Ellen R. also said that if she “found the

defendant is guilty, [and if she] found him to be legally sane at

the time,” she “could” “vote death,” her answer must be placed

in the context of her statements that (1) she would find

defendant to be insane in order to avoid having to vote for death,

and (2) she would only vote for death in an “extreme case” such

as “Hitler” or a person who “committed continual murders.” At

best, Ellen R.’s responses were equivocal and conflicting, much

like Linda A.’s responses. In such circumstances, we defer to

the trial court’s determination of that potential juror’s state of

mind. (See Clark, supra, 52 Cal.4th at p. 895.) Thus, we

conclude the record supports the court’s decision to excuse

Ellen R. for cause.

c. Prospective Juror Rebecca M.

On her juror questionnaire, prospective juror Rebecca M.

said: “I believe I don’t have the right to take someone’s life.”

She also checked the box saying she was “[a]lways against” the

death penalty and “will advocate for life without possibility of

parole in the case of multiple murders.” During questioning by

the court, Rebecca M. said that “for personal reasons and for

religious reasons” she didn’t “believe in the death penalty.”

When asked if she “would . . . automatically vote against the

death penalty,” she said: “I would vote for [the] death penalty

as a last resort. I think I would automatically vote for life

without parole.” The court then reviewed the basic structure of

a capital trial and asked her whether she “would . . .

automatically vote against the death penalty and really not

listen to what the People might offer.” She responded: “I think

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I may be inclined to vote for life without parole.” When asked

the same question yet again, she said: “I would go by the

evidence and what the court and what the law says.” The court

then told her the penalty would be her decision, not the court’s,

to make, and she said: “I think that based on the evidence and

everything, I would vote for . . . life without parole.” She added:

“I do not think I have the right to take anybody’s life.”

When questioned by defense counsel, Rebecca M.

confirmed she preferred life imprisonment and “would consider

[the] death penalty as a last resort.” When counsel asked if that

meant she could consider the death penalty, she said: “I could

consider it, yes.” When questioned by the prosecution, she said:

“If I vote [for] death, I will have to — it will take a toll on me

emotionally — [a] long-term effect on me.”

The prosecution challenged Rebecca M. for cause, and the

court excused her, stating, “I don’t even think this is close.” The

court believed it was “clear . . . that she has an inability

emotionally, and perhaps religiously, to ever consider

realistically imposing the death penalty. And consequently, I

think she is impaired. The challenge for cause is granted.”

We conclude the court did not err. Rebecca M. could

“consider” imposing the death penalty and would be willing to

vote for it as a “last resort,” but she was (1) “[a]lways against”

it, (2) would suffer a long-term, emotional toll from casting a

vote for death, and (3) thought she “would automatically vote for

life without parole.” It is apparent from these responses that

Rebecca M. would not be able to put aside her personal views

and decide the penalty question based solely on the evidence

presented in court. The record supports the court’s decision to

excuse Rebecca M. for cause.

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d. Prospective Juror Paul S.

Prospective juror Paul S. indicated on his juror

questionnaire that he was “[a]lways against” the death penalty

and that the death penalty was imposed “[t]oo often,” but he also

wrote: “I’m completely capable of following the laws of the State

of California and render[ing] any verdict appropriate.” In

response to the court’s questioning, he said he was not in favor

of the death penalty “[a]s an abstract notion.” He added: “I

haven’t got to a point in my life yet where I could be party to

killing somebody for anything. I mean, punishment is one thing;

but in my mind, I look at it as vindictive, not so much as

punishment. You know, I understand there [are] bad people in

this world, and I want them kept away from me, but I don’t feel

it’s necessary to kill them.” Paul S. said he would not make a

decision “automatically,” but when asked whether he “could . . .

ever envision [himself] . . . saying, ‘I vote death,’ ” he answered:

“I don’t think I can envision myself saying that.” He reiterated

that he “could follow the law,” and when asked whether he could

“vote death” after hearing the evidence and concluding that “this

case merits the most serious penalty that can be imposed,” he

answered: “Yes.”

In response to defense counsel’s questions, Paul S. said: “I

think I can . . . listen to evidence and testimony and make a

decision that is impartial.” In response to questioning by the

prosecution, Paul S. said: “The judge earlier said that if all

these scenarios take place, and [if] you get to the end and you

determine that the most stiffest penalty is determined, and the

death penalty is the most — that’s the legal determination.”

The prosecution asked, “[W]ouldn’t you always want to go L-

WOP [life without parole] if it’s merely your choice?” Paul S.

answered: “I guess to answer your question, I am not sure. I

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know that my beliefs are anti death penalty.” Asked whether

his beliefs would interfere with his “ability to realistically

consider [the] death penalty in a case like this,” Paul. S.

responded: “I would hope that they wouldn’t, but I cannot

answer that question, honestly.”

The court described the case and asked: “In a case of this

type, would you always vote against the death penalty?” Paul S.

answered: “You know, my gut reaction is I would, yes.” After

the court again explained what it needed to know, Paul S. said:

“As I sit here today, knowing what I know about this case, that

the case proceeds to the penalty phase, I can’t envision myself

voting for the death penalty.”

The prosecution challenged Paul S. for cause, and the

court excused him, stating, “Now, there is a classic example as

to the fact you don’t [make] any headway. We could be with him

all afternoon, and we wouldn’t make any headway. The last

answer he gave is good enough for me under the law that is a

disqualifying answer, and under the law he was substantially

impaired.” After further discussion, the court stated that it

believed, based on Paul S.’s responses as a whole, that he was

“impaired” in that he “would not in any circumstance impose the

death penalty.”

The court did not err in dismissing Paul S. for cause.

Paul S. made a few statements that, taken in isolation,

suggested he could put his views in opposition to the death

penalty aside and evaluate defendant’s case based on the

evidence and the law. However, he also made clear that he

strongly favored a penalty of life in prison over death, and

although he “hope[d]” his beliefs would not interfere in his

ability to consider the death penalty, he said he could “honestly”

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not “answer that question.” He twice said he could not see

himself voting for death. Even defense counsel commented:

“[U]pon further questioning, I could probably get him to say he

didn’t really mean what he said to the court in the last answer.

We could go on and on.” In this sense, Paul S.’s responses

coincide with the high court’s observation that “many veniremen

simply cannot be asked enough questions to reach the point

where their bias has been made ‘unmistakably clear’; these

veniremen may not know how they will react when faced with

imposing the death sentence, or may be unable to articulate, or

may wish to hide their true feelings.” (Wainwright v. Witt (1985)

469 U.S. 412, 424–425.) “Even when the record contains

equivocal or ambiguous responses, ‘there will be situations

where the trial judge is left with the definite impression that a

prospective juror would be unable to faithfully and impartially

apply the law.’ ” (People v. Erskine (2019) 7 Cal.5th 279, 299,

quoting Witt, at pp. 425–426.) Paul S. was just such a

prospective juror, and the record supports the court’s decision to

excuse him for cause.

3. Defense challenges for cause

Before we address defendant’s arguments that the trial

court erred in denying his challenges for cause to jurors and

prospective jurors, we note a recurring feature in these for-cause

challenges. Specifically, defense counsel asked prospective

jurors to assume they had found defendant guilty of the charges

at issue in this case, and — without knowledge of mitigating

facts or instruction on the law — to state whether they would

lean in favor of the death penalty. When asked to opine in the

abstract about the appropriateness of the death penalty for

someone who committed three murders — with two of the

victims being children, including one child who was repeatedly

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sexually assaulted and kidnapped — many prospective jurors

responded they would lean in favor of death. The defense

challenges for cause were all based, at least in part, on the

prospective juror’s response to this standard line of questioning,

with defense counsel arguing that defendant could not have a

fair penalty phase trial if the members of the jury leaned in favor

of death before the trial even began.

If we were to accept defendant’s argument that jurors are

disqualified in such circumstances, it could have incongruous

consequences: the more shocking the facts the jurors are asked

to assume in a capital case, the more likely they would be to lean

toward the death penalty — particularly when they are

presented with no mitigating facts or instructions to guide them.

As discussed below, rather than placing undue weight on

the prospective jurors’ initial responses to defense counsel’s

question alone, the trial court properly considered the entire

context of the voir dire process and each prospective juror’s

response to a variety of questions before deciding whether to

grant a request to strike someone for cause.

a. Juror No. 2

On his juror questionnaire, Juror No. 2 stated that he

moderately favored the death penalty and could vote for it in a

case like this one, but he would first have to consider the facts.

During questioning by the court, Juror No. 2 confirmed that he

“believe[d] in certain cases there is a valid reason for the death

penalty.” The court then summarized the specific charges

against defendant and asked whether Juror No. 2 would

“automatically” vote for death. Juror No. 2 responded that he

would want to hear the evidence before deciding. He would

consider evidence offered by the defense in mitigation and could

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“possibly” “vote either way.” He explained: “I would be [leaning]

towards a death penalty based upon what I’ve heard. But,

again, there could be evidence or something presented to me

that could possibly change my mind.”

Juror No. 2 had checked the box for “Yes” in response to

the juror questionnaire question whether, in a case with general

facts like those present here, he would “always vote for or

against the death penalty without regard to the strength or

weakness of the aggravating and mitigating circumstances.”

When the court inquired about that response, Juror No. 2 said

that the response was incorrect. He did not agree with that

statement; he said, “I would not always vote for the death

penalty on this.”

In response to defense counsel’s questioning, Juror No. 2

said he did not have a religious belief about the death penalty

and would make his penalty decision based on “whether I think

in my own heart whether he deserved it or whether he did not

deserve it.” Based solely on what he had heard so far about the

case, he was “leaning a lot” toward the death penalty, but he

noted he had not yet heard any evidence. He could not easily

erase from his mind his sense that the death penalty was

appropriate, but he added: “I think the main thing in my mind

is to take what’s given to us in the court and kind of try and

decide from what evidence is presented . . . .” He conceded that

if everything alleged about defendant turned out to be true, the

defense would “kind of have to convince [him] not to impose the

death penalty.” He added, however, that it was possible for him

to be convinced. If the charges against defendant were all true,

Juror No. 2 was leaning “pretty far” toward the death penalty,

but he “wouldn’t be able to say right now that [defendant] should

have the death penalty for sure.”

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In response to questioning by the prosecution, Juror No. 2

said he would listen to the defense’s mitigating evidence and

would not “hesitate” to impose the penalty of life in prison if the

evidence persuaded him that the death penalty was not

appropriate. When asked by the court whether he would

respond so emotionally to victim impact evidence that he would

lose his objectivity, he said he “would take that into

consideration” but did not think his emotions would prevent him

from evaluating all the evidence.

The court rejected the defense’s challenge for cause,

stating that although Juror No. 2 strongly favored the death

penalty in general and in this case, “he indicated that he could,

in fact, be receptive to the evidence, listen to both sides, listen

to the evidence as it pertains to both penalties, evaluate it, give

it due consideration. He indicated in the case of this type he

could vote for life in prison without the possibility of parole if he

felt it was appropriate” and would not automatically vote for the

death penalty.

We conclude the court did not err. Given the charges in

this case, it not surprising, nor by itself disqualifying, that a

prospective juror who supported the use of the death penalty in

the abstract, who had been asked to assume that the charges in

the present case were all true, and who had not heard any

mitigating evidence or instructions regarding the law, would at

least preliminarily lean in favor of death. Importantly, the trial

court did not believe Juror No. 2’s preliminary leaning, which

many people might have had considering the nature of the

crimes at issue, disqualified Juror No. 2 in light of his

representation that he had the ability to remain open minded

and to decide the case based on the evidence and the law. When

pressed by the defense, Juror No. 2 confirmed that he could be

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convinced to vote in favor of life in prison if the mitigating

evidence presented by the defense persuaded him. Thus, the

record supports the court’s ruling.

Defendant contends that Juror No. 2 should have been

excused based on People v. Boyette (2002) 29 Cal.4th 381, 418

(Boyette), where we held the court erred in denying a for-cause

challenge. The prospective juror in that case “admitted he

would not follow [the court’s] instruction to assume that a

sentence of life in prison with no possibility of parole meant the

prisoner would never be released.” (Ibid.) Nothing like that

occurred here. Therefore, defendant’s comparison of this case to

Boyette is unpersuasive.

b. Juror No. 5

In response to questioning by the court, Juror No. 5 said

that, depending on the evidence, he was capable of voting either

for death or for life in prison without the possibility of parole,

and that he could keep an open mind until he had heard all the

evidence. The court asked about his seemingly contradictory

answers on his juror questionnaire. There, he indicated he was

“[a]lways against” the death penalty in a case involving special

circumstances like those alleged here, but he also indicated that

the death penalty “should be allowed” and was imposed “[t]oo

seldom.” Juror No. 5 explained that he had misunderstood the

question and should instead have checked the box indicating he

“[s]trongly favor[ed]” the death penalty. However, he said he

would not automatically vote for the death penalty and would

consider all evidence relevant to the penalty decision.

During questioning by defense counsel, Juror No. 5

conceded that in a case involving multiple murders, he would

have to be shown evidence that convinced him to vote for life in

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prison over death; however, he also said he would not make up

his mind until after hearing all the evidence.

Juror No. 5’s responses in court also suggested that some

of his juror questionnaire responses were inaccurate because he

was confused about the questions; for example, he understood

the term “special circumstances” in the colloquial sense,

meaning he thought the insanity of a defendant was a “special

circumstance.” When he stated in the questionnaire that his

“mind would be made up” after the guilt and sanity phases, it

appears he was unaware that the defense would present

additional mitigating evidence after the guilt and sanity trials.

In response to questioning by the prosecution, Juror No. 5

reiterated that he would consider all the evidence before making

up his mind as to the appropriate penalty, and that he would

not automatically vote for either penalty.

The court sought to clarify Juror No. 5’s answer to defense

counsel’s questioning. The court asked Juror No. 5 to imagine a

situation in which, after a trial, he had found defendant guilty

of all the charges and allegations, and, after another trial, he

had found defendant to be sane. The court then asked Juror

No. 5 whether, in that situation, he would say, “I’m voting for

death,” or whether he would consider the evidence offered at the

penalty phase trial before deciding the question of penalty.

Juror No. 5 responded that he would consider the evidence and

would consider voting for either penalty.

The defense challenged Juror No. 5 for cause, and the

court rejected the challenge. The court noted that Juror No. 5,

who indicated that he was born overseas on his juror

questionnaire, had worked in highly technical jobs in the United

States for 18 years, and his English language skills were

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adequate to allow him to serve as a juror. The court then said:

“I think there was a question as to whether or not he fully

understood some of these questions when he answered the

questionnaire, which I find not to be unusual. It’s common with

a lot of our prospective jurors. I think that he does strongly favor

the death penalty. That, again, does not mean there is a valid

basis for a challenge for legal cause. It simply is telling you his

state of mind that he does strongly favor the death penalty in a

case of this type. But he reiterated more than once that he

would consider the evidence as it might pertain to life in prison

without the possibility of parole, will listen to it, consider it,

evaluate it; if he felt it was appropriate, he could vote for it, and

he would not make a decision in this case until he heard all the

evidence. [¶] For that reason, the challenge for cause is denied.”

We conclude the court did not err. Juror No. 5 strongly

favored the death penalty in a case like the present one, but as

we have explained, it is neither surprising, nor is it, by itself,

disqualifying, for a prospective juror to preliminarily lean in

favor of the death penalty when asked, in the abstract, about the

appropriateness of the death penalty for a person who

committed three murders, two of the victims being children,

including one child he repeatedly sexually assaulted and

kidnapped. Importantly, Juror No. 5 made clear he would not

decide the question of penalty until he had heard all the

evidence.

Juror No. 5 said he would have to be shown evidence that

convinced him to vote for life in prison over death, but he said

this in the context of a discussion of a case where there were

three murders, and without having heard any mitigating

evidence or instruction on the law. In fact, he apparently had

not understood that the defense would present additional

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mitigating evidence after the guilt and sanity trials. Although

Juror No. 5 gave some inconsistent answers on the

questionnaire and during voir dire, he clarified those

inconsistences when asked to do so, making clear he would

decide the penalty issue only after hearing the evidence, and

that he was willing to consider both penalties. As such, the

record supports the court’s decision to deny the defense’s

challenge.

c. Defense challenge to Juror No. 12

Before individual voir dire began, the court admonished

all the prospective jurors that they should not discuss the case

even with their immediate family. Juror No. 12, however,

acknowledged to her husband — a sergeant in the San Jose

Police Department, specializing in violent crimes — that she

was being considered for the jury in the present case. Her

husband reacted with concern about Juror No. 12’s health (she

had been diagnosed with lupus and suffered from occasional

migraine headaches). Juror No. 12 informed the court clerk that

her husband asked her what case she was on and expressed

concern that she was not healthy enough to be a juror in the

case.

During voir dire, the court asked Juror No. 12 how she felt

about her husband’s concerns, and she said she wanted to

continue as a prospective juror. The court admonished her

again, saying: “Okay, that’s fine. I will caution you, however,

you did talk to your husband and tell him the case. And if you

are selected and you remain with us after today, you can’t talk

about anything we did here today, the questions I might ask or

counsel’s. You can’t talk to him about it, or [to] anybody else.”

Juror No. 12 responded: “That’s correct; I understand.” She

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also assured the court that she could set aside what she knew

about the case from news sources and personal conversations,

and reach a verdict based solely on the evidence presented in the

courtroom and the court’s instructions on the law.

Defendant asked that Juror No. 12 be excused for cause,

asserting the conversation violated the court’s admonition not

to discuss the case with anyone, and further asserting that Juror

No. 12 would be tempted to discuss the case with her husband

because of his profession. The court denied defendant’s request,

stating Juror No. 12 was conscientious and objective. The court

said that Juror No. 12’s husband had most probably been the

one who raised the subject, knowing about this case from his

work and wondering whether she was being considered for the

case. His inquiry would have put her in the position of either

lying (by answering “no”) or remaining silent (which would have

been taken as a “yes”). Instead, she admitted she was being

considered for this case. The court added that Juror No. 12 did

not technically violate the court’s admonition because she did

not discuss the case; rather, she only confirmed the identity of

the case. The court concluded: “I think she can be objective,

fair, and impartial to both the People and the defendant.”

Therefore, the court denied defendant’s for-cause challenge, and

Juror No. 12 served on defendant’s jury.

Defendant argues the court erred by not excusing Juror

No. 12, and he further argues he was unable to use a peremptory

challenge to remove the juror because he had exhausted his

peremptory challenges, and the court had denied his request for

more. He also asserts the error infringed upon several of his

state and federal constitutional rights.

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We find no error. The fact that Juror No. 12 acknowledged

to her husband that she was being considered for the jury in this

case did not establish a violation of the court’s admonition, nor

did it establish that she was biased. Juror No. 12 did not consult

her husband regarding any details of the case. Rather, she

merely revealed to him what case she had been assigned to as a

potential juror. In addition, the court questioned her about the

conversation and about her knowledge of the case from other

sources and confirmed she would not discuss the case with

anyone. And the court expressly determined that Juror No. 12

could impartially perform her duties as a juror. Accordingly,

defendant’s claim of error is without merit, including his claim

that the court should have granted the defense more peremptory

challenges, thus enabling the defense to remove Juror No. 12.

For the same reason, the ruling did not violate his state or

federal constitutional rights.

d. Jurors who ultimately did not sit on the jury

Defendant argues the court erred in denying the defense’s

challenge for cause as to eight other prospective jurors,

including one alternate juror, but these jurors, unlike Jurors

Nos. 2, 5, and 12, ultimately did not sit on defendant’s jury.

Thus, with respect to these eight prospective jurors, even if the

court erred in denying the defense’s challenge for cause,

defendant still needs to establish prejudice. (Boyette, supra,

29 Cal.4th at p. 419.) Defendant attempts to do so by arguing

he was forced to use peremptory challenges to remove these

jurors, causing him to exhaust his peremptory challenges, and

he further argues the court denied his request for additional

peremptory challenges. But even if the court’s rulings forced

defendant to exhaust his peremptory challenges, he must still

show that any error resulted in a jury that was not impartial.

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Hence, he must show that one of the sitting jurors should have

been removed for cause. (See People v. Black (2014) 58 Cal.4th

912, 921 [“the fact that defendant requested additional

peremptory challenges that the court did not grant him does not

support his claim, because he has failed to show that an

incompetent juror sat on his case” (italics omitted)].)

As we have explained, defendant’s for-cause challenges to

Jurors Nos. 2, 5, and 12 are without merit. Accordingly, as to

each of the eight prospective jurors who did not sit on the jury,

even assuming, without deciding, that the court erred in

denying the defense’s for-cause challenges, any error would be

harmless. However, in light of defendant’s claim that the trial

court was biased during voir dire, we address the merits of

defendant’s claims of error regarding defendant’s denied for-

cause challenges of the eight prospective jurors.

i. Prospective Juror Mary N.

Prospective juror Mary N. indicated on her juror

questionnaire that she was in favor of the death penalty,

although not in a case in which there was lingering doubt about

the defendant’s guilt. She thought the death penalty was

appropriate for premeditated violent murders, especially with

child victims, and she “would probably consider the death

penalty to be appropriate” in a case involving multiple murders

with special circumstances. She checked the box saying she

“[s]trongly favor[ed]” the death penalty in a case involving the

specific special circumstances alleged here, but she also

indicated that in a case involving charges like those alleged

here, she would not “always” vote one way or the other. She

wrote: “It would depend on circumstances such as mental

health and pre-meditation.”

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In response to questioning by the court, Mary N. agreed

that she strongly favored the death penalty in an appropriate

case but would “not automatically” vote for death. She would

listen to the evidence presented at the penalty phase and keep

an open mind. If defendant was found guilty and all the special

circumstances were found to be true, then going into the penalty

phase, her preliminary view would be that the death penalty

was appropriate. But the penalty trial would still be needed

because she would not vote for the death penalty until she had

heard all the evidence.

The court asked Mary N. about her comment on the juror

questionnaire that she was “for” the death penalty “if there

[was] absolutely no question of guilt.” She confirmed she

believed this but also said she would still listen to and consider,

with an open mind, the evidence the defense had to offer in favor

of life in prison, perhaps being persuaded by it. She affirmed

she could vote for either death or life in prison, depending on

what the evidence showed and could give defendant a fair trial.

Defense counsel asked Mary N. whether she truly felt she

could give defendant a “fair shot” assuming she had already

found him guilty. Mary N. said she thought she could but was

not sure until she heard the evidence. When asked whether a

sex crime committed against her mother would influence her,

Mary N. said she did not know but thought she could “keep it

separate . . . because they’re separate people.” Asked if she had

doubts whether she could keep them separate, she said “sitting

here” she did not doubt it, but she did not know how the evidence

would affect her.

Defense counsel then asked about evidence of childhood

trauma, and Mary N. confirmed her juror questionnaire

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comment that she would not give such evidence any weight at

all. In her questionnaire answers, she explained: “Because I

know of people who had terribly abusive childhoods that grew

up to be wonderful, responsible people.” In response to counsel’s

questioning, she said: “To me, you are responsible for your

actions, and you are accountable for them, and your childhood

isn’t any excuse.” When asked if she would, at least, consider

childhood trauma evidence, she clarified that such evidence

“wouldn’t weigh heavily,” and she said: “I would consider

anything I heard, but I don’t think it would . . . sway me that

much one way or another.” Asked if she would “really” consider

it in the sense of “evaluating it,” she said: “I believe I would

honestly, you know, consider anything I heard. But I, in

general, I could not believe that a bad childhood absolves

somebody for their actions.”

Mary N. next reaffirmed her questionnaire answer in

which she said that she strongly favored the death penalty in a

murder case involving the special circumstances alleged here,

and although she said that she would make her decision based

on the evidence presented at the penalty phase, the “burden of

proof” (her phrase) would fall on the defense to persuade her

that death was not the appropriate penalty.

The prosecutor explained that neither party has the

burden of proof at the penalty phase and explained the weighing

of aggravating and mitigating factors. Mary N. said she

understood and could follow the law, that she had an open mind,

and she would give the defense a “fair shake.”

The trial court rejected the defense’s challenge of Mary N.

for cause, stating: “[Th]e juror must evidence a willingness to

consider the evidence presented . . . , whatever it might be,

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factors in aggravation, the factors in mitigation, . . . and give it

whatever weight they find it to be entitled, keep an open mind.

The law is not such where the defense has a right to inquire if

we present this mitigation, would you consider it, if we present

that mitigation, would you consider it, et cetera, et cetera. All

the law requires is that the juror maintain an open mind and be

willing to listen to the evidence presented and give it whatever

weight they find it to be entitled.” “So I don’t believe under the

law that this gives rise to a challenge for legal cause. . . . [I]t’s

denied.”

The court did not err. It is neither surprising nor, by itself,

disqualifying that a prospective juror who supports the death

penalty in the abstract would strongly favor the death penalty

in a case involving multiple murders, sex crimes against

children, kidnapping, and burglary — especially if the

prospective juror is asked to give an opinion without having

heard any specific evidence, including mitigating evidence, and

without any instruction on the law. Nor is it disqualifying for a

prospective juror to report, again without instruction on the law,

that certain categories of evidence would not weigh heavily in

the juror’s consideration. The parties to a criminal case are not

entitled as a matter of legal right to have only those jurors who

are likely to be impressed by their evidence. Here, the most

relevant points are that (1) Mary N. would not “automatically”

vote for death or for life without the possibility of parole, (2) she

was willing to keep an open mind until she had heard and

considered all the evidence, (3) she was willing to follow the law,

and (4) she was able to be fair and impartial. These answers,

taken together, adequately support the trial court’s

determination as to Mary N.’s state of mind. The court did not

err in denying the challenge for cause.

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ii. Prospective Juror G.O.

On her juror questionnaire, prospective juror G.O.

indicated she “believe[d] in the death penalty when warranted”

and “[s]trongly favor[ed]” the death penalty in a case involving

special circumstances like those alleged here, but that “all

evidence must be weighed before coming to any conclusions,”

including evidence related to “the defendant’s background,

upbringing, and mental health issues.” The court asked G.O.

about her views on the death penalty, and she answered that

she strongly favored the death penalty “if it’s warranted.” She

explained: “It depends on the crime. It depends on the

circumstances. It depends on the person. It depends on their

state of mind.” The court asked her to clarify her comment on

the juror questionnaire in which she said: “I feel that a person

who is convicted of a capital crime should receive the death

penalty.” She stated those were her “general feelings” but that

she would not “automatically vote” for the death penalty, and

she would not decide the question of penalty until she had heard

all the evidence.

Defense counsel questioned G.O. about a juror

questionnaire comment in which she indicated that for a

remorseful person, the penalty of life without the possibility of

parole was appropriate because such a person would be “alive in

prison thinking about the crime they committed for the rest of

their life.” In response to defense counsel’s questioning, she

explained that the death penalty was more appropriate for

“someone who will never ever change.” When asked how she felt

about the death penalty in a case like the one before the court,

assuming all the charges turned out to be true, G.O. said that

she could not answer because she would have to hear the penalty

phase evidence before deciding. When asked about her

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questionnaire answer in which she stated that she strongly

favored the death penalty in a murder case involving special

circumstances like those alleged here, she said: “I would say

most of the time, yes, I do favor the death penalty. But there

always may be that one or two times, or few times, where maybe

it’s not warranted. And that’s why you have to listen to the

information that’s presented to you and then make that

judgment.” She said she would not enter the penalty phase with

a presumption in favor of the death penalty. Instead, she would

want to hear the evidence and would be able to vote for life in

prison without the possibility of parole “if warranted.”

The defense challenged G.O. for cause, based on the fact

that she checked the box on her juror questionnaire saying she

“[s]trongly favor[ed]” the death penalty in a case like this one.

The court rejected the challenge, saying: “I believe based upon

the examination of Miss [O.] and her answers to the questions,

her explanation as to why she answered in the fashion she did,

indicates to the court, in the court’s discretion as to her state of

mind, that she could be . . . completely objective, fair and

impartial to the People and to the defendant; that she could

consider both penalties if the matter were ever to get into a

penalty phase trial; and that she would keep an open mind

about that, consider the evidence that is presented, and in that

fashion attempt to reach what she feels is an appropriate and

just verdict.”

We conclude the court did not err. G.O. made clear she

would remain open minded until she had heard all the evidence

presented at the penalty phase. She rejected defense counsel’s

suggestion that she would enter the penalty phase with a

presumption in favor of the death penalty. She said: “No. I

know nothing about [defendant], so I would be making a

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judgment against him or about him where I have no information

to make that judgment on.” She did concede that, in a case like

this one, she favored the death penalty, but as already

explained, that is neither surprising nor, by itself, disqualifying.

In addition, she made equally clear that she might vote for life

in prison and that she would make that decision based on the

evidence. Here, the critical point is that the trial court

evaluated G.O.’s state of mind and determined “she could be . . .

completely objective, fair and impartial to the People and to the

defendant,” and that she could “consider the evidence that is

presented, and in that fashion attempt to reach what she feels

is an appropriate and just verdict” as to penalty. The record

supports that determination. Accordingly, the court did not err

in denying the defense’s challenge.

iii. Prospective Juror Joseph R.

Prospective juror Joseph R. strongly favored the death

penalty in a case involving multiple murders with the special

circumstances charged in this case. He would not automatically

vote for one penalty or the other, but he commented that “they

would have to be pretty convincing circumstances.” It appears

he meant that the mitigating circumstances would have to be

“pretty convincing” to warrant a vote for life in prison given the

facts of the case as revealed in voir dire.

In response to questioning by the court, Joseph R. assured

the court that he would be able to listen to the evidence offered

by the defense and consider it, although he added: “It’s really

hard for me now, without hearing anything, to imagine

circumstances that I would consider extenuating; the nature of

the crime is pretty powerful.” The court asked about Joseph R.’s

answer to a question that asked whether he “would . . . be

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willing to consider the defendant’s background, upbringing, and

mental health issues.” In his answer, Joseph R. said he could

consider such evidence “up to a point,” adding: “I still believe in

free will though.” For example, if the defendant had “other

options or other outs, they have a choice as to which way they

want to go,” in which case he “would like to see a real strong

reason” why the defendant should be considered less

blameworthy. He added that although his leaning was in favor

of death, if he “heard a convincing argument,” he “could consider

it.” When asked whether his mind was set in favor of death, he

said: “I don’t know how firmly it’s set, but I’d say there is a bias

that way,” adding, “I don’t know if bias is the right word to use.”

The court asked whether Joseph R. could keep an open

mind and decide the issues based on the evidence, the law, and

deliberations with other jurors, and Joseph R. replied: “I think

I could go either way. I think it’s fair to say that I favor the

death penalty based on the cases I’ve heard until now, but I

believe I could listen to the testimony, the evidence, and the

mitigating-aggravating factors, and make some decision on

that.”

Defense counsel asked Joseph R. about his juror

questionnaire comment that in a case involving multiple

murders with special circumstances like those charged here, the

penalty of life in prison was “pointless without some attempt to

redeem the person.” He added: “I don’t think we are an

enlightened enough society to use this approach.” When asked

about those comments, Joseph R. said: “[A]t the time I

answered that, it may have been a little bit stronger than upon

further reflection.” He explained that in a case involving a

“really heinous” crime, the possibility of rehabilitation was one

of the few reasons to choose life in prison over death, but he did

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not think our prison system offered significant opportunities for

rehabilitation. He added that he favored the death penalty in a

case like the present one and there would need to be a

“convincing reason” to persuade him to vote for life in prison.

When asked by the prosecutor where on a continuum he

stood in terms of favoring or disfavoring the death penalty,

Joseph R. said: “I think it’s a case-by-case sort of situation. But

I think, you know, if you think about horrible things done by

sane people, I think I’m more [of the view] that you have to show

me why something very severe shouldn’t be done. I’m more in

that climate.” Nonetheless, he said he would have an open mind

and consider mitigating evidence and could return a verdict of

life in prison if the evidence warranted that verdict. He did not

feel that his views were so strong that he was unable to fairly

consider the evidence and reach a decision.

The court rejected the defense’s challenge of Joseph R. for

cause, stating: “I think one of the problems is basically this. . . .

And that is, if they make the findings required to get the matter

into a penalty phase trial, [then] they would feel that death

might very well be appropriate. Well, it might be

appropriate. . . . That’s how you get to a penalty phase trial.

Otherwise, there is no penalty phase trial. So [if] a juror were

to say: ‘Yes, if I were to be a juror and make those findings and

find the defendant legally sane, and this gets into a penalty

phase trial, yes, I believe that death may be appropriate.’ Well,

that’s the point of the law. When you get into a penalty phase

trial, it only gets there if they make those findings. And in a

penalty phase trial, death may be appropriate. And life in

prison without the possibility of parole may be appropriate. [¶]

And he indicated, when he concluded, that he could consider

both and give them both due weight and make that

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consideration only and that decision. Clearly, he favors the

death penalty, but that does not mean under the law that there

is a legal challenge for cause. He certainly has given you

information you can use in your process by way of peremptory

challenges, even though this process isn’t deemed to be designed

to aid in that specific area. . . . [¶] But under the law, there is

no case that says if somebody believes that they are in favor of

the death penalty or strongly favors it, that they should be

excused as a juror. Because if that be the case in California, the

majority of people could not sit, because a majority of people in

California . . . are, in fact, in favor of the death penalty.”

We conclude the court did not err. As we have already

explained, it is neither surprising nor, by itself, disqualifying

that a prospective juror who supports the death penalty in the

abstract would strongly favor the death penalty in a case like

this. In addition, we have noted that it is not disqualifying for

a prospective juror to report, again in the abstract, that certain

categories of evidence would not weigh heavily in the juror’s

penalty consideration. Thus, the fact that Joseph R., assuming

the charges to be true, strongly favored the death penalty, is not

a basis for granting a challenge for cause. Likewise, the fact

that Joseph R. thought that “defendant’s background,

upbringing, and mental health issues” were only relevant “up to

a point” is not a basis for granting a challenge for cause. The

record here shows that Joseph R. would not “automatically” vote

for death or for life without the possibility of parole, he was

willing to keep an open mind until he had heard and considered

all the evidence, he could return a verdict of life in prison if

appropriate, as his opinion about the penalties “may have been

a little bit stronger” than it was “upon further reflection,” and

he was able to be fair. These answers, together, adequately

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support the court’s determination as to Joseph R.’s state of

mind. Accordingly, the court did not err in denying the

challenge for cause.

iv. Prospective Juror Wayne G.

In his juror questionnaire, prospective juror Wayne G.

indicated he strongly favored the death penalty in a case like

the present one but said he would need to hear the facts before

deciding. When asked by the court whether he would

“automatically vote” for one penalty or the other, Wayne G.

answered: “I thought I . . . was more pro death penalty. But . . .

it’s something that I’d really have to think about during the

trial.” He then explained he was “kind of leaning” in favor of the

death penalty but did not “know all the circumstances.” He said

he could vote for life in prison without the possibility of parole

if, after hearing the evidence, he thought that penalty was

appropriate. When asked if he could consider the evidence

offered by either side and vote one way or the other, he said: “I

could go either way. I’d have to hear the arguments and

everything.” He added: “I don’t favor one over the other

necessarily.”

Defense counsel asked Wayne G. about his juror

questionnaire comment that he could consider evidence of

childhood trauma but would “have to be totally convinced.”

Wayne G. said that a person who faced childhood trauma and

who has a continuing problem in adulthood should seek help.

He agreed with defense counsel that he would want to see

evidence that the childhood trauma was disabling. Wayne G.

said that the experience of actually being considered for a jury

in a capital case and facing the possibility of having someone’s

life in his hands had changed his views. He had been a “strong

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believer” in the death penalty but now felt, “I’ve got to be

convinced that it’s really necessary.” Defense counsel asked him

about his comment on his juror questionnaire in which he said

the death penalty should be imposed “only if it’s proven without

a doubt that the suspect committed a ‘planned’ & cruel murder

and shows no remorse whatsoever.” He said he might consider

the death penalty in other situations so long as “it was proven

to [him] without a doubt.” Defense counsel next asked about a

case with charges like those in the present case, and the

following colloquy occurred:

“[Defense counsel]: . . . The question is: Would you in that

situation . . . only vote to impose death because of your views on

the death penalty?

“[Wayne G.]: I want to say in my mind I would, but I

know, you know, I don’t want to be so closed-minded. I’ve got

other jurors, and I haven’t heard any of the case or anything.

[¶] . . . [¶] . . . But, you know, just off the top of my head, I would

say yes.”

During questioning by the prosecutor, Wayne G. stated

that he still believed in the death penalty, and although he had

come to question the strength of his conviction, he could “still do

it.” But he would not vote for death in all cases, because he

“would want to listen to everything,” and his desire to hear the

evidence applied even in a case like the present case, having

multiple murder counts and special circumstances. He said he

“would be very heavily leaning towards the death penalty” if the

defendant in such a case was “proven guilty,” but if appropriate,

he could return a verdict of life in prison, and his vote would

depend on the evidence.

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The defense challenged Wayne G. for cause. The court

expressed doubts about the utility of asking prospective jurors

to imagine that defendant is guilty of the charges, with the

special circumstances true, and then asking for an abstract

opinion about whether they favored the death penalty. The

court called back Wayne G. and asked whether he was

committed to one penalty or the other based solely on the

charges and alleged special circumstances, without having

heard any evidence and without having found defendant guilty.

Wayne G. answered: “I’d want to hear the evidence.” The court

denied the challenge for cause, finding Wayne G.’s views would

not prevent or substantially impair his ability to be a juror.

We determine that the court did not err. Wayne G.’s

answers were, at times, inconsistent, and he may not always

have understood what he was being asked, which is not

surprising considering the complexity of the legal issues

involved in selecting a capital jury. He favored the death

penalty for a case like the present one. But the reality that he

might become a juror in a capital case was a sobering experience

for him that led him to feel less strongly in favor of the death

penalty than he previously did. On the one hand, he stated

without ambiguity that he could vote for death if, after hearing

the evidence and deliberating with the other jurors, he felt death

was the appropriate penalty. On the other hand, he said he

could also vote for life in prison, and in choosing which penalty

to vote for, he would want to hear all the evidence.

When defense counsel asked him whether “because of [his]

views on the death penalty,” he would “only vote to impose

death,” Wayne G. answered, “just off the top of my head, I would

say yes.” But he qualified that answer by saying: “I don’t want

to be so closed-minded. I’ve got other jurors, and I haven’t heard

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any of the case or anything.” He also said: “I’ve got to be

convinced that [the death penalty is] really necessary.” And he

repeatedly confirmed that he would base his decision on the

evidence, and that he could vote for either penalty depending on

what the evidence showed.

Moreover, as the court noted, asking prospective jurors

who have heard no evidence — in particular, no mitigating

evidence — to assume the unusually serious charges and

allegations in this case are all true, and then asking them, based

on that assumption and with no instruction on the law, whether

they lean in favor of death is likely to evoke an affirmative

response. In effect, Wayne G. was asked to give an abstract

opinion about what he thought the law ought to be for a case like

the present one. That is not a line of inquiry that is particularly

informative regarding a prospective juror’s qualification to sit

on a jury, and we consider Wayne G.’s answers with that in

mind.

For all these reasons, we conclude that Wayne G.’s voir

dire answers adequately support the court’s determination as to

his state of mind. Accordingly, the court did not err in denying

the challenge for cause.9

v. Prospective Juror Jack. S.

On his juror questionnaire, prospective juror Jack S.

indicated that he strongly favored the death penalty, but that in

a case like the present one, his vote would depend on the facts.

He confirmed this answer in voir dire. The court asked him

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Notably, despite the trial court’s denial of defense’s

request to strike him for cause, the prosecution ultimately

exercised a peremptory challenge on Wayne G.

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whether he would “automatically” vote for the death penalty

without considering the evidence that might be offered by the

defense at the penalty phase, and Jack S. said: “I would have to

weigh the evidence at the time.” He said he would also be able

to vote for life in prison without the possibility of parole. The

court asked Jack S. about the following comment he made on his

juror questionnaire: “If he is convicted of the three murders, he

should get the death penalty.” Jack S. said he meant only “if the

evidence weighed to that.” He added: “I would vote one or the

other [penalty] depending on . . . the testimony or — I don’t

know what you call it — the evidence.” He then confirmed that

he strongly favored the death penalty, assuming the charges in

the present case were true. When asked about his questionnaire

comment that a case like the present one “could be a good cause

for the death penalty” “[a]fter hearing the facts,” he assured the

court that he had no “predisposition . . . that [he] would

automatically vote for it.” He affirmed he would keep an open

mind, hear the evidence, deliberate with other jurors, and vote

for one or the other penalty, as appropriate.

Defense counsel followed up on Jack S.’s questionnaire

comment, and Jack S. explained: “I was thinking, well, if a

person is convicted and all the evidence weighed that the person

did it, you know, . . . cold-bloodedly, you know, I guess you could

go for the death penalty.” Defense counsel asked: “[A]re you

meaning to say . . . that if you personally sat on the case and

listened to the evidence and were convinced beyond a reasonable

doubt that a guy committed three murders and that they were

done maliciously or they were done in the course of a felony like

rape . . . that you personally, because of your strong beliefs about

the death penalty in that situation, would have to impose the

death penalty just because of the way you feel?” When Jack S.

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answered in the affirmative, the court reminded Jack S. that at

a penalty phase trial, guilt would already be determined, and

there would be additional evidence offered, some of it in favor of

life in prison. Jack S. agreed he would listen to the evidence.

When defense counsel again asked the same question, Jack S.

said: “I would have to just weigh the facts.” The court

interrupted again, and Jack S. again confirmed that even if he

found defendant guilty, he would be willing to consider the

evidence offered in the penalty phase, and he would not always

vote for death. Defense counsel then resumed questioning, and

Jack S. answered “yes” to whether he would “be heavily leaning

towards a sentence of death if [he] found somebody beyond a

reasonable doubt had committed these three murders.”

Next, the prosecutor confirmed that Jack S. would not vote

for death in every case but instead would be “open to the facts

and listen to both sides,” and he would not be reluctant to vote

for life in prison, if appropriate, after hearing all the evidence

and applying the law.

The defense challenged Jack S. for cause, and the court

rejected the challenge, stating, “I believe his state of mind is

such where he prefers the death penalty in a case of this type.

That does not disqualify him as a juror. [¶] I believe . . . he will

listen to what’s presented to him as it bears upon the other

penalty, which is life in prison without the possibility of parole,

and he will keep an open mind and not make that decision until

he’s heard all the evidence that bears upon the issue.”

We find that the court did not err. Jack S. strongly favored

the death penalty, assuming the charges in the present case

were true. But as we have already explained, that conclusion is

neither surprising nor, by itself, disqualifying in this case.

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Although Jack S. said at one point that he “would have to

impose the death penalty” if he found defendant guilty, when

the court reminded him that additional evidence would be

offered at the penalty phase, he stated he would listen to that

evidence. More generally, Jack S. repeatedly affirmed he would

not automatically vote in favor of one penalty or the other, that

he would keep an open mind and base his vote on the facts and

the evidence, and that he could, if appropriate, return a verdict

of life in prison. These answers adequately support the court’s

determination as to Jack S.’s state of mind. Thus, the court did

not err in denying the challenge for cause.

vi. Prospective Juror Cynthia Y.

On her juror questionnaire, prospective juror Cynthia Y.

indicated she strongly favored the death penalty in a case like

the present one, but she also said she would listen to the

evidence with an “open mind” and that childhood issues and

mental health issues also needed to be considered. She wrote:

“I have never been responsible for the fate of another human

being and would have to hear every possible fact before I could

make [the penalty] decision.” She also wrote that a murder had

to be “proven beyond any doubt” to warrant the death penalty.

In response to questioning by the court, Cynthia Y. felt

that a person found guilty of murder should get the death

penalty. The court explained there would be no penalty phase

trial unless defendant had already been found guilty.

Cynthia Y. said: “I believe that if a person is mentally sane and

he is found guilty of the counts that he is accused of, that the

death penalty should be applied.” She also agreed it should be

applied “automatically.” After further explanation by the court,

she said she did not understand “what types of things” would be

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told to her at a penalty phase trial. After the court gave a

general description, she said, “I have to claim ignorance here,

since I’ve never gone through an entire case such as this and as

serious as this. And I would definitely be willing to listen to both

sides.” She said that although she strongly favored the death

penalty, she could listen to and evaluate the defense’s evidence

in favor of life in prison and could vote for that penalty, if

appropriate, based on the evidence. She affirmed that she could

give both the People and defendant a fair trial.

When defense counsel asked about her juror questionnaire

comment in which she justified the death penalty based on

concern for the murder victim and the victim’s family,

Cynthia Y. explained: “It’s really hard, because you have to put

yourself in both places. I mean, I have children. If it were my

son on trial, I’d want somebody to be fair. On the other hand, if

it were my son who was dead, I’d want closure.” “So, you know,

I’m willing t

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