same, rejecting argument that the DOT is “‘obsolete’ and not reliable”
How later courts described this case
- same, rejecting argument that the DOT is “‘obsolete’ and not reliable”
- holding that reliance on VE’s DOT- based testimony, though it contained “a seemingly antiquated reference to typewriters,” was proper: “VE testimony may become unreliable on account of a conflict with the DOT . . . but not on account of its compliance with the DOT.”
- confining the relevant analysis to “whether substantial evidence supports the conclusion that the[ at-issue] jobs exist in substantial numbers”
- labeling the DOT an enduring source of “reliable job information”
Written by the judges who cited it.
The opinion
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF OHIO
EASTERN DIVISION
LESA MAXINE ROBBERTS,
Plaintiff,
Civil Action 2:18-cv-00541
v. Chief Magistrate Judge Elizabeth P. Deavers
COMMISSIONER OF SOCIAL SECURITY,
Defendant.
OPINION AND ORDER
Plaintiff, Lesa Maxine Robberts (“Plaintiff”), brings this action under 42 U.S.C. § 405(g)
for review of a final decision of the Commissioner of Social Security (“Commissioner”) denying
her application for Social Security Disability Insurance benefits (“SSDI”) and Supplemental
Security Income benefits (“SSI”). This matter is before the Court for consideration of Plaintiff’s
Statement of Errors (ECF No. 15), the Commissioner’s Memorandum in Opposition (ECF No.
20), Plaintiff’s Reply (ECF No. 21), and the administrative record (ECF No. 10). For the
following reasons, Plaintiff’s Statement of Errors is OVERRULED and the Commissioner’s
decision is AFFIRMED.
I. BACKGROUND
Plaintiff applied for disability benefits and supplemental security income in November
2014. (R. at 230-40.) Plaintiff’s claim was denied initially and upon reconsideration. (R. at 11.)
Upon request, a hearing was held on March 29, 2017, in which Plaintiff, represented by counsel,
appeared and testified. (R. at 56–92.) A vocational expert also appeared and testified at the
hearing. (Id.) On July 18, 2017, Administrative Law Judge Jeffrey Hartranft (“the ALJ”) issued
a decision finding that Plaintiff was not disabled at any time after January 15, 2014, the alleged
onset date. (R. at 11–32.) On April 5, 2018, the Appeals Council denied Plaintiff’s request for
review and adopted the ALJ’s decision as the Commissioner’s final decision. (R. at 1–4.)
Plaintiff then timely commenced the instant action. (ECF No. 5.)
II. RELEVANT HEARING TESTIMONY1
Lynne Kaufman testified as the vocational expert (“VE”) at the March 2017 hearing. (R.
at 82–92.) Plaintiff’s attorney stipulated to the VE’s qualifications. (R. at 82–83.) The VE
described Plaintiff’s past work as a phlebotomist under the Dictionary of Occupational Titles
(“DOT”) code 079.364-022. (R. at 83.) She testified that it is considered a light job and semi-
skilled with a specific vocational preparation of three (3). (Id.) The VE further testified that
Plaintiff had one job where she had to lift patients, which the VE estimated to be “heavy to very
heavy.” (R. at 83–84.) The VE testified that Plaintiff described another job at the blood bank
which would be heavy and semi-skilled, specific vocational preparation of four (4), DOT
022.387-058, in the medium strength range. (R. at 84.) As to Plaintiff’s past work as an
inspector/packer, the VE testified the DOT considers that as a light job and unskilled, specific
vocational preparation of two (2), under DOT code 559.687-074. (Id.)
The VE testified that for Plaintiff’s work as a stock clerk the job would be considered
heavy strength, semi-skilled, specific vocational preparation of four (4), DOT code 299.367-014,
but estimated Plaintiff’s performance as light. (Id.) The VE indicated that Plaintiff worked as a
warehouse worker, which would be “under laborer, stores” and is considered a medium strength
1 Given Plaintiff’s single contention of error that the ALJ erred in relying on the VE’s testimony
to fulfill his Step 5 burden without fully addressing Plaintiff’s post-hearing objections to the
testimony, only the VE’s testimony from the hearing is relevant to the Court’s analysis.
job and unskilled, specific vocational preparation of two (2), DOT code 922.687-058. (R. at 84–
85.) The VE also indicated that Plaintiff did a lot of temp jobs in that category including one that
would be categorized under “clerk, typist,” which is a sedentary job, semi-skilled, specific
vocational preparation of four (4), DOT code 214.382-014. (R. at 85.)
The ALJ asked the VE to assume Plaintiff is capable of working at the light exertional
level, that she could frequently climb ramps and stairs, could occasionally climb ladders, ropes,
or scaffolds, would be capable of frequent stooping, kneeling, crouching, and crawling, would
need to avoid workplace hazards such as uncontrolled heights and machinery, would be capable
of simple, routine, and repetitive tasks involving only simple work-related decisions and few if
any workplace changes, and would be capable of occasional interaction with the general public,
coworkers, and supervisors. (Id.) Assuming those limitations, the VE testified that Plaintiff
could perform her past work of “inspector, packer” but not the other jobs, which would be semi-
skilled, because of the simple, repetitive limitation. (Id.)
The ALJ asked the VE to assume a hypothetical individual with Plaintiff’s educational
and vocational background, along with the previously described restrictions. (R. at 85–86.)
Assuming those limitations, the VE testified the individual could perform work in light packing
jobs, for example DOT code 920.687-166, which she estimated had about 8,000 options in Ohio
and about 175,000 options nationally. (R. at 86.) The VE also testified that the individual could
perform work in some sorting positions, for example DOT code 222.687-014, which she
estimated had about 6,000 options in Ohio and about 120,000 options nationally. (Id.) The VE
further testified that the individual could perform work in some marker jobs, for example DOT
code 209.587-034, which she estimated had about 4,000 options in Ohio and about 90,000
options nationally. (Id.)
The ALJ then asked the VE to add the limitation that the hypothetical could work in
positions that do not require strict production quotas or fast-paced work such as on an assembly
line. (Id.) The VE testified that with that limitation Plaintiff’s past work would be eliminated.
(Id.) She further testified that as far as the other jobs, she would give about a 25% reduction on
the numbers for this restriction. (Id.) The ALJ then asked the VE to assume, for either of the
first two hypotheticals, that the hypothetical individual would need to be able to use a cane for
prolonged ambulation but could carry up to the exertional levels in the hand not using the cane.
(R. at 86–87.) The VE testified that with this restriction she would put Plaintiff in a more
sedentary strength range, and examples of sedentary jobs that she could perform would be some
inspector positions such as DOT code 726.684-110, which she estimated would have about 2,500
options in Ohio and about 25,000 options nationally. (R. at 87.) The VE also testified that there
would be some table worker positions available to Plaintiff, for example DOT code 739.687-182,
which she estimated had about 2,000 options in Ohio and about 35,000 options nationally. (Id.)
Furthermore, the VE testified that Plaintiff could look at some assembler work, such as DOT
code 713.687-018, which she estimated had about 2,500 options in Ohio and about 60,000
options nationally. (Id.)
The ALJ then added to any of the previous hypotheticals the limitation that because of
pain, anxiety, side effects of medication, or any other reason, the hypothetical individual would
be off-task 10% of the workday in addition to the normal breaks on an ongoing basis. (Id.) The
VE testified that this limitation, in combination with the other restrictions, would be work
preclusive. (R. at 88.) The ALJ then added to the first three hypotheticals the restriction that the
individual’s supervisor or lead worker would need to check every hour to see if the individual
was properly performing their job and on-task. (Id.) The VE testified that this restriction “really
exceeds customary tolerances in the sense of close supervision, so [she did not] think it’s really
reflective of competitive work.” (Id.) Regarding the tolerance for absenteeism in unskilled
work, the VE testified that she uses the standard of not more than one day per month if ongoing
or repetitive, and anything in excess would be work preclusive. (Id.)
Plaintiff’s counsel asked the VE if frequent redirection would be considered the same
thing as checking in every hour. (Id.) The VE testified that “it could be included as part of
that[.]” (Id.) Plaintiff’s counsel then asked the VE if a requirement of frequent redirection
would be prohibitive of work to which VE responded that “I think that’s again not reflective of
competitive. It’s more like a supported employment or you know situation.” (R. at 89.)
Plaintiff’s counsel asked the VE if a restriction was added to any of the hypotheticals that the
individual would be unable to carry out detailed written and oral instructions, would the
restriction preclude the individual from work or change any of the potential positions. (Id.) The
VE testified that she “would tend to put the ability to handle detailed written or oral instructions
at least in a more semi-skilled rather than unskilled” and that “once it gets to detailed then I think
you know you’re moving to a more skilled job.” (Id.)
The VE testified that she reviewed the “E exhibits” in preparing for her testimony, that
her job numbers were current job numbers, and that she considered Plaintiff’s testimony in
identifying the past work. (R. at 89–90.) The VE further testified that in drawing conclusions
for making adjustments for the reduced numbers of jobs available she used a variety of
resources, including information from the US Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics
Occupational Outlook Handbook, her own research on all the Ohio labor market information,
and SkillTRAN. (R. at 90.) The VE also testified that she believed her testimony was consistent
with the DOT but there were several issues not addressed in the DOT so she looked to other
resources to develop an answer. (R. at 90–91.)
III. RELEVANT RECORD EVIDENCE
On April 12, 2017, prior to the ALJ’s administrative decision, Plaintiff submitted a Post-
Hearing Memorandum of Law and Objections to the Vocational Witness’ Testimony and
supporting exhibits to the ALJ. (R. at 324–84.) In the memorandum, Plaintiff asserts that “a
number of inconsistencies arose during the vocational testimony, and must be resolved pursuant
to SSR 00-4p.” (R. at 324.) Plaintiff indicated several objections:
We object: to any purported expert testimony from Ms. Kaufman regarding job
incidence in the local, regional or national economy as the record in this matter on
its face fails to show any qualifications through training, education or experience
that would establish the necessary expertise to give opinions on the number of jobs
that exist in the local, regional or national economy.
We object: to the vocational witness’ testimony regarding job incidence in that said
testimony is unfounded, unsupported, unreliable and conjured from whole cloth.
. . .
We object: to the vocational witness’ testimony as the jobs offered at hearing are
no longer performed at the unskilled level pursuant to current labor market data.
. . .
We object: to the positions offered by the vocational witness in response to the
hypothetical residual functional capacity assessment, as this opinion is not reliable
and is not supported by substantial evidence because current labor market research
and reliable sources of job information dictate that these positions would require
more than occasional interaction with coworkers and supervisors.
. . .
We object: to the vocational testimony that the jobs of Table Worker (DOT:
739.687-182) and Final Assembler (DOT: 713.687-018) could be performed within
the hypothetical residual functional capacity assessment.
. . .
We object: to an unfavorable decision being issued in the instant matter prior to
affording the claimant the opportunity to address the aforementioned evidentiary
and vocational inconsistencies at a supplemental hearing. (See HALLEX I-2-6-
56).
(R. at 324, 329–31.)
IV. ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION
On July 18, 2017, the ALJ issued his decision. (R. at 11–32.) At step one of the
sequential evaluation process,2 the ALJ found that Plaintiff had not engaged in substantial
gainful activity since January 15, 2014, the alleged onset date. (R. at 17.) The ALJ found that
Plaintiff has the following severe impairments: degenerative disc disease of the spine; coronary
artery disease (“CAD”); a depressive disorder; an anxiety disorder; and a history of substance
abuse. (Id.) The ALJ further found that Plaintiff did not have an impairment or combination of
impairments that meets or medically equals the severity of one of the listed impairments in 20
C.F.R. Part 404, Subpart P, Appendix 1. (R. at 18.)
2 Social Security Regulations require ALJs to resolve a disability claim through a five-step
sequential evaluation of the evidence. See 20 C.F.R. §416.920(a)(4). Although a dispositive
finding at any step terminates the ALJ’s review, see Colvin v. Barnhart, 475 F.3d 727, 730 (6th
Cir. 2007), if fully considered, the sequential review considers and answers five questions:
1. Is the claimant engaged in substantial gainful activity?
2. Does the claimant suffer from one or more severe impairments?
3. Do the claimant’s severe impairments, alone or in combination, meet or
equal the criteria of an impairment set forth in the Commissioner’s Listing of
Impairments, 20 C.F.R. Subpart P, Appendix 1?
4. Considering the claimant’s residual functional capacity, can the claimant
perform his or her past relevant work?
5. Considering the claimant’s age, education, past work experience, and residual
functional capacity, can the claimant perform other work available in the national
economy?
See 20 C.F.R. §416.920(a)(4); see also Henley v. Astrue, 573 F.3d 263, 264 (6th Cir. 2009); Foster
v. Halter, 279 F.3d 348, 354 (6th Cir. 2001).
At step four of the sequential process, the ALJ set forth Plaintiff’s residual functional
capacity (“RFC”) as follows:
[Plaintiff] has the residual functional capacity to perform light work as defined in
20 CFR 404.1567(b) and 416.967(b) except [Plaintiff] could frequently climb
ramps and stairs and occasionally climb ladders, ropes, and scaffolds. [Plaintiff]
could frequently stoop, kneel, crouch, and crawl. She should avoid workplace
hazards, such as unprotected heights and machinery. [Plaintiff] would be capable
of performing simple, routine, repetitive tasks, involving only simple work related
decisions, and with few, if any workplace changes. She could have occasional
interaction with the general public, coworkers, and supervisors. Further, [Plaintiff]
could work in a setting without strict production quotas, such as on an assembly
line.
(R. at 19.)
The ALJ concluded that Plaintiff is unable to perform any past relevant work. (R. at 30.)
The ALJ found that considering Plaintiff’s age, education, work experience, and RFC, there are
jobs that exist in significant numbers in the national economy that Plaintiff can perform. (R. at
31.) He therefore concluded that Plaintiff was not disabled under the Social Security Act from
January 15, 2014, through the date of the administrative decision. (R. at 32.)
V. STANDARD OF REVIEW
When reviewing a case under the Social Security Act, the Court “must affirm the
Commissioner’s decision if it ‘is supported by substantial evidence and was made pursuant to
proper legal standards.’” Rabbers v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., 582 F.3d 647, 651 (6th Cir. 2009)
(quoting Rogers v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., 486 F.3d 234, 241 (6th Cir. 2007)); see also 42 U.S.C. §
405(g) (“[t]he findings of the Commissioner of Social Security as to any fact, if supported by
substantial evidence, shall be conclusive . . . .”). Under this standard, “substantial evidence is
defined as ‘more than a scintilla of evidence but less than a preponderance; it is such relevant
evidence as a reasonable mind might accept as adequate to support a conclusion.’” Rogers, 486
F.3d at 241 (quoting Cutlip v. Sec’y of Health & Hum. Servs., 25 F.3d 284, 286 (6th Cir. 1994)).
Although the substantial evidence standard is deferential, it is not trivial. The Court must
“‘take into account whatever in the record fairly detracts from [the] weight’” of the
Commissioner’s decision. TNS, Inc. v. NLRB, 296 F.3d 384, 395 (6th Cir. 2002) (quoting
Universal Camera Corp. v. NLRB, 340 U.S. 474, 487 (1951)). Nevertheless, “if substantial
evidence supports the ALJ’s decision, this Court defers to that finding ‘even if there is
substantial evidence in the record that would have supported an opposite conclusion.’” Blakley
v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., 581 F.3d 399, 406 (6th Cir. 2009) (quoting Key v. Callahan, 109 F.3d
270, 273 (6th Cir. 1997)).
Finally, even if the ALJ’s decision meets the substantial evidence standard, “‘a decision
of the Commissioner will not be upheld where the [Social Security Administration] fails to
follow its own regulations and where that error prejudices a claimant on the merits or deprives
the claimant of a substantial right.’” Rabbers, 582 F.3d at 651 (quoting Bowen v. Comm’r of
Soc. Sec., 478 F.3d 742, 746 (6th Cir. 2007)).
VI. ANALYSIS
Plaintiff asserts one contention of error. Plaintiff contends that the ALJ erred in relying
on vocational expert testimony to fulfill his Step 5 burden without fully addressing the objections
to the vocational expert’s testimony. (ECF No. 15, at pg. 1.) Specifically, Plaintiff focuses on
two objections that she asserts the ALJ failed to properly address: “(1) the ALJ’s stated
limitations (in the hypothetical assumption and in his ultimate RFC finding) that Plaintiff can
occasionally interact with supervisors and coworkers is work preclusive, and (2) that up-to-date
and reliable (and administratively noticed) vocational sources demonstrate that the jobs
identified by the vocational expert, while correctly described as unskilled jobs in the DOT, which
was last updated over 30 years ago are no longer unskilled jobs.” (Id. at pg. 4.)
The ALJ made the following findings regarding Plaintiff’s post-hearing memorandum
and objections:
The undersigned, at hearing, at the request of the claimant’s attorney, held the
record open for 2 weeks for additional post hearing evidence and discussion. The
undersigned read and considered the post hearing brief evidenced at Exhibit B14E.
Within the brief, the attorney objected to the testimony from the vocational expert
regarding job incidence in the local, regional, or national economy; objects to the
vocational testimony of the job incidence, as she alleges the expert’s testimony is
unfounded, unreliable, and unsupported; objects to the testimony as to the jobs
offered at hearing, reporting they are no longer performed at the level assessed;
objects to the positions offered by the vocational expert in response to the
hypothetical residual functional capacity assessment; objects to the notion that the
jobs of Table Worker and Final Assembler could be performed within the assessed
hypothetical; and objects to an unfavorable decision. Here, for the reasons
discussed below the undersigned overrules the objections contained in the brief.
First, despite the arguments made within this post-hearing documents, it should be
noted, the attorney, on the record at the claimant’s hearing, stipulated to Ms.
Kaufman’s qualifications. The attorney found no reason to assert Ms. Kaufman
was not qualified as a vocational expert. Secondly, the undersigned finds the
attorney’s posed argument is unfounded as Ms. Kaufman is a certified rehabilitation
counselor (CRC); professional counselor (PC); and a certified case manager (CCM)
(Exhibit B11E). Further, Ms. Kaufman has experienced [sic] as a qualified
rehabilitation provider for the Bureau of Worker’s Compensation and was a
certified rehabilitation counselor for the Department of Labor (Exhibit B11E).
Additionally, she has further experience as a fellow on the American Board of
Vocational Experts, as well as prior experience as a vocational and fund evaluator
for permanent and total disability and disability for the Ohio Police and Fire
(Exhibit B11E). She has an undergraduate degree from the Queens College, City
University, as well as a Master’s degree in counseling (Exhibit B11E). Further, she
completed 90 credit hours and residency toward a Ph.D. in Rehabilitation
Counseling at the Ohio State University (Exhibit B11E). Ms. Kaufman has
significant and relevant vocational experience working as a Vocational
Rehabilitation Counselor; Industrial Rehabilitation Consultant; and a Job
Placement Specialist since 1979 (Exhibit B11E).
The brief contained discussion of the use of SkillTran. Regarding such discussion,
the undersigned finds the Social Security Regulations do not provide an exhaustive
list of vocational references. Each vocational references [sic] provided in the list
of administrative notice of job data is merely an example. Precedent supports an
Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) can rely on evidence such as the testimony of a
vocational expert and the Dictionary of Occupational Titles. The ALJ is not
confined to using one sole publication or method and Social Security rules and
regulations support [that an] ALJ may take administrative notice of reliable job
information available from various governmental publications such as the DOT,
published by the Department of Labor. 20 CFR 404.1566(d). Further, valid legal
precedent contends the ALJ may use the services of a vocational expert to assist in
determining whether a claimant’s work skills can be used in other work, and, if so,
the specific occupations in which they can be used. 20 CFR 404.1455(e); Beinlich,
345 Fed. Appx. At 168. Here, the undersigned has chosen to justly ascertain
reliable vocational information from more than one source; however, he relies
heavily upon the vocational expert’s hearing testimony. The undersigned’s actions
are not in conflict with Social Security rules and regulations or current legal
precedent.
In terms of the arguments regarding the provided job numbers[, the] undersigned
finds the provided numbers are accepted. As found by the United States Sixth
Circuit Court of Appeals, “[t]his court has held repeatedly that the testimony of a
vocational expert identifying specific jobs available in the economy that an
individual with the claimant’s limitation could perform can constitute substantial
evidence supporting an [Administrative Law Judge’s] finding at step 5 that the
claimant can perform other work.” (Wilson v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., 378 F.3d 541,
549 (6th Cir. 2004) citing Wright v. Comm’r Soc. Sec., 321 F.3d 611, 616 (6th Cir.
2003); Sias v. Sec’y of Health & Human Servs., 861 F.2d 475, 481 (6th Cir. 1988)).
Furthermore, the undersigned can rely on evidence including the testimony of the
vocational expert and the DOT as “[t]he [Administrative Law Judge] takes
administrative notice of reliable job information available from various
governmental publications such as the DOT, published by the Department of
Labor.” (Kyle v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., 609 F.3d 847, 855(6th Cir. 2010) citing 20
C.F.R. § 404.l566(d); Beinlich v. Comm’r of Soc Sec., No. 08-4500, 2009 WL
2877930, at *4, 345 Fed. Appx. 163, 168 (6th Cir. 2009, unpublished)). In light of
these holdings, the representative’s arguments are without legal merit. Here, the
vocational expert’s testimony is based not only on the information contained in the
DOT, but also her vocational rehabilitation education and years of professional
experience. Therefore, in light of the assessed residual functional capacity, the
undersigned accepts the vocational expert’s testimony and finds that there is
substantial evidence to support that there are jobs existing in the national economy
of significant numbers that the claimant could perform.
On the record, at hearing, the claimant’s attorney cross-examined the vocational
expert and thus had the opportunity to obtain more detail or clarification about the
vocational positions. It was expected the attorney was going to have preconceived
objection to the vocational expert testimony, as the representative noted in the
prehearing brief that they wanted to keep the record open for vocational objections
for 30 days after the hearing. There is reason to assume, the attorney had obtained
all of the factual information she used in her written post-hearing arguments at the
time of the hearing. In fact, the submission of the post hearing brief, appears to be
correlated/associated with other formal appeals, as specific Exhibits A-G were
formally presented. The attorney objected to job numbers; however, points of
contention such as the invalidity of the job numbers were never raised on the record
at hearing. By not making or raising the arguments on the record at hearing, the
undersigned finds the attorney waived the right to make any farther argument
regarding the vocational expert’s testimony. This conclusion is supported by the
Sixth Circuit’s explanation in Beinlich v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., 345 Fed. Appx. 163
(6th Cir. 2009), holding “the ALJ is under no obligation to investigate the accuracy
of the VE’s testimony beyond the inquiry mandated by SSR 00-4p. This obligation
falls to the plaintiff’s counsel, who had the opportunity to cross-examine the VE
and bring out any conflicts with the DOT. The fact that plaintiff’s counsel did not
do so is not grounds for relief.” Id. at 168-69. Here, despite cross-examining the
vocational expert, the attorney never questioned the expert’s proposed job numbers,
use of Skilltran, or referenced any inconsistency in job number findings. However,
even if an inconsistency did exist between plaintiff’s residual functional capacity
and the occupational requirements of the positions identified by the vocational
expert, the Sixth Circuit, in the Lindsley decision makes clear, the ALJ is under no
obligation to investigate the accuracy of the VE’s testimony beyond the inquiry
mandated by SSR 00-4p. Lindsley v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., 560 F.3d 601, 606 (6th
Cir. 2009) (holding that the ALJ fulfilled his duties when he asked the vocational
expert whether there was any “discrepancy between your opinions and the DOT
standards,” even if the VE did not disclose a conflict); see also Beinlich, 345 Fed.
Appx. At 168-69 (“Even if there were an inconsistency, the plaintiff has not pointed
to any authority that the ALJ erred in his findings based on the VE’s testimony,
which went unchallenged by the plaintiff until after the ALJ issued his decision.”).
Here, the ALJ specifically inquired at 12:05:04 PM on the date of the hearing, per
the hearing transcript whether the expert’s testimony was consistent with the DOT.
The expert clearly responded in part her testimony was consistent with the DOT,
but indicated where conflict existed, she looked to other resources and her
experience to develop her provided answers. It should he noted such process is
consistent with SSR 00-4p.
In summary, the ALJ specifically allowed the claimant’s attorney to cross examine
the vocational expert. It appears, considering both the pre and post hearing briefs
together, that the attorney had the post hearing objection materials at her disposal
at the time of the hearing and made a personal choice, opting not to discuss them
on the record. Thus, she failed to satisfy her requirements under the regulations.
Further, considering both the pre and post hearing briefs, it appears the attorney
was prepared to raise her objections on the record, as she expected such vocational
issues, [at] the hearing onset (Exhibit B12E). The undersigned finds the arguments
outlined and alleged by the attorney at Exhibit B14E unpersuasive and affords them
little weight. Further, it should be noted the undersigned finds the post-hearing
documents were submitted in an attempt to circumvent the established legal
processes and procedures and the undersigned’s findings are supported by relevant
Sixth Circuit precedent.
(R. at 12–14.)
Plaintiff argues that the ALJ failed to address some of her objections and invokes a
provision of the Hearings, Appeals and Litigation Law Manual of the Social Security
Administration (“HALLEX”) in support of her argument. (ECF No. 15, at pg. 11–12.) This
argument fails on multiple levels. The ALJ addressed and “overruled” Plaintiff’s post-hearing
objections. (R. at 12–14.) Importantly, “HALLEX is an internal guidance tool” that does not
have the force of law. Keehl v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., No. 1:18-cv-281, 2018 WL 4352155, at *3
(W.D. Mich. Sept. 12, 2018) (citing Estep v. Astrue, No. 2:11-cv-17, 2013 WL 212643, at *11
(M.D. Tenn. Jan. 18, 2013). Indeed, “HALLEX does not impose judicially enforceable duties on
either the ALJ or this [C]ourt.” Morris v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., No. 1:11-cv-154, 2012 WL
4953118, at *12 (W.D. Mich. Oct. 17, 2012); see also Smith v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., No. 17-
12056, 2018 WL 3750971, at *13 (E.D. Mich. July 16, 2018) (“[T]he failure to comply with
HALLEX, by itself, does not provide grounds for remand by a reviewing court.”).
Moreover, Plaintiff has not shown that the ALJ violated a legal obligation set out by
HALLEX, which, Plaintiff contends, “embodies the principle of procedural due process found in
the Constitution and the Administrative Procedure Act.” (ECF No. 15, at pg. 12 n .7.) This
Court has previously addressed the same argument in another case:
Plaintiff points to HALLEX § I-2-6-74(B) which provides that at the hearing the
ALJ must ask the claimant’s representative if she has any objections to the VE’s
testimony and if so, must rule on any objections either “on the record during the
hearing, in narrative form as a separate exhibit, or in the body of his or her
decision.” HALLEX § I-2-6-74(B). In this case, Plaintiff did not raise the
objections to the VE’s testimony until after the hearing. As such, this HALLEX
provision does not apply. Because Plaintiff did not raise the objections at the
hearing and because the ALJ specifically addressed her post-hearing objections in
the body of her written decision, Plaintiff has not shown that the ALJ violated any
obligations established by HALLEX. See Horner v. Berryhill, No. 17 C 4823, 2018
WL 1394038, at *2 (N.D. Ill. Mar. 20 2018) (“Because HALLEX does not compel
an ALJ to rule on objections to VE testimony posed after a hearing has ended, the
ALJ’s failure to do so in this case was not erroneous.”); Owens v. Berryhill, 17-cv-
4824, 2018 WL 3303274, at *2 (N.D. Ill. July 5, 2018) (“Here [plaintiff] did not
raise the relevant objections to the VE’s testimony until after the hearing, so the
cited HALLEX provision does not apply.”); Rockholt v. Berryhill, 2018 WL
4462231, at *7 (W.D. Okla., 2018) (collecting cases).
Jones v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., No. 2:17-cv-1062, 2019 WL 2511111, at *8 (S.D. Ohio June 18,
2019).
In her first objection, Plaintiff maintains that the ALJ’s stated limitations that Plaintiff
can only occasionally interact with supervisors and coworkers is work preclusive. (ECF No. 15,
at pg. 4.) Regarding this objection, which Plaintiff asserts the ALJ did not address, the Court
notes that this is not the first time a plaintiff has lodged the argument that an ALJ failed to
address a report from Paula Santagati which he or she had included in a post-hearing
memorandum. Just as other courts have noted about the plaintiffs in their cases, Plaintiff in the
instant matter failed to cross-examine the VE regarding Ms. Santagati’s opinions. Keehl, 2018
WL 4352155 at *4 (citing Kidd v. Berryhill, No. 5:17-cv-420, 2018 WL 3040894, at *4 (E.D.
Ky. June 19, 2018) (Plaintiff “could have extensively cross-examined [the VE] on the topic [s]he
now raises, but [s]he did not.”). Additionally, ALJs have no duty to convene a second hearing to
question a VE that the plaintiff could have raised initially. Kidd, 2018 WL 3040894 at *4. The
Court finds the Keehl and Kidd decisions persuasive and instructive as to many of the issues
raised by Plaintiff here.
As the Keehl court points out “courts have been less than impressed with Ms. Santagati’s
opinions[.]” 2018 WL 4352155, at *4. Indeed, “[s]everal courts have received reports from
Santagati containing identical testimony regarding work-preclusive social limitations, and have
rejected the testimony for its lack of specificity, expertise and knowledge of the case in
question.” Looney v. Berryhill, No. 3:17-cv-450, 2018 WL 3826778, at *12 (E.D. Va. Aug. 10,
2018) (citing cases). The Kidd court explicitly found that “Santagati purports to offer her own
most generalized (and quite radical) ‘vocational opinion’ that, as of October 2015, ‘a limitation
of occasional interaction with coworkers and supervisors precludes all work as the training and
probationary period for any job would require more than occasional interaction with co-workers
and supervisors. . . . Santagati said utterly nothing specific about [plaintiff’s] life, health, ability
to work, or case.” 2018 WL 3040894 at *4 (emphasis in original).3 The Court here agrees that
Ms. Santagati’s opinion is less than impressive and unsubstantiated. More importantly, the Court
finds that Plaintiff waived this objection because she failed to use her opportunity to cross-
examine the VE regarding Ms. Santagati’s opinion during the hearing. See Oneal v. Soc. Sec.
Comm’r, No. 4:17-cv-11380, 2018 WL 5532486, at *4 (E.D. Mich. 2018) (holding that
“[p]laintiff’s failure to object to the VE’s testimony during the hearing waived her right to raise
such issues in district court.”) (citation omitted); McKinney v. Astrue, No. 11-293, 2012 WL
2603659, at *9 (E.D. Ky. July 5, 2012) (finding plaintiff waived his right to cross-exam the VE
by failing to object to the VE’s testimony or even attempt to cross-examine the VE on the issue)
(citation omitted).
The Kidd court also addressed Plaintiff’s second argument, that the ALJ failed “to
address challenges based on up-to-date and reliable (and administratively noticed) vocational
sources demonstrate that the jobs identified by the vocational expert, while correctly described as
3 Other courts have also found Ms. Santagati’s opinions extreme and unfounded. See, e.g.,
Rosado v. Berryhill, NO. B-17-77, 2017 WL 7790109, at *9-10 (S.D. Tex. Dec. 4, 2017)
(“Santagati identifies no factual basis beyond her own opinion as to why every single job in
America requires more than occasional interaction with others. As previously noted,
occasional means up to one-third of a workday. SSR 83-10, 1983 WL 31251, at *5. In
Santagati’s opinion, every single job that can possibly be imagined requires interaction with
others for more than 2 hours and 40 minutes in an eight hour workday. Santagati’s opinion is
not sufficiently supported by any evidence. Furthermore, it does not specifically discuss the
interactions that can be expected of a car rental delivery driver or road roller operator, the jobs
actually identified by Johnson and cited by the ALJ.”).
unskilled jobs in the DOT, which was last updated over 30 years ago are no longer unskilled
jobs.” (ECF No. 15, at pg. 4); 2018 WL 3040894 at *6. As in the instant case, the plaintiff in
Kidd would have preferred that the ALJ rely on a particular website, O*NET. (ECF No. 15, at
pg. 4–5); Kidd, 2018 WL 3040894 at *6. Again, the Court notes that Plaintiff failed to raise this
issue at the hearing and has therefore waived it. See Harris v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., No. 1:11-cv-
1290, 2012 WL 4434078, at *3 (N.D. Ohio Sept. 24, 2012) (“The Sixth Circuit, along with other
courts across the country, have generally recognized that a claimant’s failure to object to
testimony offered by a vocational expert, at the time of the administrative proceeding, waives the
claimant’s right to raise such issues in the district court.”) (citations omitted). “The Sixth
Circuit, along with other courts across the county, have generally recognized that a claimant’s
failure to object to testimony offered by a vocational expert, at the time of the administrative
proceeding, waives the claimant’s right to raise such issues in the district court.” Kidd, 2018 WL
3040894 at *6 (citations omitted). Both the Santagati report and O*NET existed at the time of
the hearing. Plaintiff could have presented her arguments regarding both and cross-examined the
VE on her theories at that time, but did not. Id. at *7 (“The Santagati report and the DOT each
existed at the time of the hearing, and [plaintiff] could have presented the theories.”).
Plaintiff cites to Cunningham v. Astrue, 360 F. App’x 606 (6th Cir. 2010) in support of
the proposition that “[n]umerous courts (including recently in this Circuit) have ruled, when
presented with the issue presented here, that an ALJ’s failure to adequately address, or address at
all, objections/challenges to vocational testimony (variously, failure to address challenges based
on up-to-date and reliable job information, objections to non-administratively noticed sources for
job incidence data, and others) is error requiring remand because it undermines the ALJ’s step 5
finding that there is other work the claimant can do, and effectively precludes meaningful
judicial review.” (ECF No. 15, at pg. 12.) The court in Kidd addressed the Cunningham case:
The Court makes a few observations about Cunningham. First, Cunningham “did
not hold,” categorically, “that the DOT is an unreliable or out-of-date source.”
Earls v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., No. 09 CV 1465, 2011 WL 3652435, at *7 (S.D.
Ohio Aug. 19, 2011). “Rather, the court [of appeals] acknowledged that pursuant
to the regulations the DOT is a publication of which the ALJ may take notice.” Id.
Indeed, post-Cunningham, the Sixth Circuit directly held (as stated and described
above), in a published decision: “To establish that work exists in the national
economy, the ALJ can rely on evidence such as the testimony of a VE and the
DOT.” Kyle, 609 F.3d at 855 (labeling the DOT an enduring source of “reliable job
information”) (emphasis added); see also, e.g., Roberts v. Colvin, 946 F. Supp. 2d
646, 662 n.6 (S.D. Tex. 2013) (same, rejecting argument that the DOT is “‘obsolete’
and not reliable”); Biestek, 880 F.3d at 787 (relying on the DOT as an information
source); id. at 789-90 (affirming when the VE “based her testimony on the” DOT).
This is consistent with the Circuit’s pre-Cunningham case law. See, e.g., Lindsley,
560 F.3d at 603. Accordingly, to the extent Cunningham could be read to imply
blanket disapproval of the DOT, Lindsley’s unanimous, prior, published guidance,
as well as Kyle’s unanimous, subsequent, published direction, clearly trump.
Second, despite “the Department of Labor’s adoption of O*NET, the Social
Security Administration still relies on the DOT and only requires the vocational
expert’s testimony to be consistent with the DOT. See SSR 00-4p (“In making
disability determinations, we rely primarily on the DOT (including its companion
publication, the SCO) for information about the requirements of work in the
national economy.”); (“Occupational evidence provided by a VE or VS generally
should be consistent with the occupational information supplied by the DOT.”).”
Daniel v. Colvin, No. 1:14-CV-775, 2015 WL 5530210, at *5 n.4 (S.D. Ohio Sept.
21, 2015); see also, e.g., Purdy v. Berryhill, 887 F.3d 7, 14 n.10 (1st Cir. 2018)
(Souter, J.) (noting that, despite some criticisms of DOT obsolescence, the SSA
“continues to treat the DOT as” reliable). ALJ Kittinger made the same point in
her written decision. R. at 21. Cunningham, further, did not “decide or even
consider whether the vocational expert was precluded from using the DOT to
determine the skill level required to perform a certain occupation.” Daniel, 2015
WL 5530210, at *5 n.4. Instead, Cunningham only addressed using VE testimony
(and, thus, DOT v. O*NET information) “to determine the number of jobs
available in the economy that the claimant could perform with her RFC.” Id.
(emphasis added); Cunningham, 360 Fed.Appx. at 615 (confining the relevant
analysis to “whether substantial evidence supports the conclusion that the[ at-issue]
jobs exist in substantial numbers”); see also Holleran v. Colvin, No. 13-193-GFVT,
2015 WL 1432966, at *8-9 (E.D. Ky. Mar. 27, 2015) (similarly distinguishing).
Plainly, focused on the social function components of the representative jobs, Kidd
raises no issue in this court concerning the discrete job numerosity inquiry.
Third, many courts have criticized Cunningham’s singular status. See, e.g., Morris
v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., No. 1:16-cv-433, 2017 WL 1159809, at *11 (W.D. Mich.
Mar. 29, 2017) (dissing Cunningham as a lone outlier—“No subsequent Sixth
Circuit decision has . . . questioned the ‘reliability’ of VE testimony in a similar
fashion.”); Belew v. Astrue, No. 2:11-107-DCR, 2012 WL 3027114, at *9 n.5 (E.D.
Ky. July 24, 2012) (same: “Cunningham is an unpublished decision by a divided
panel. No subsequent Sixth Circuit opinion has questioned the reliability of VE
testimony on the grounds of his or her reliance on the DOT.” (citing cases));
Cunningham, 360 Fed.Appx. at 616-17 (Ryan, J., dissenting) (panning the panel
majority for “locat[ing] evidence it thinks ought to have been taken into account by
a better informed, more thoroughly prepared expert witness, and [for] hold[ing] that
the expert’s failure to consider this court’s more favored data effectively nullified
the ‘reliability’ of the expert’s opinion, rendering the entire body of otherwise
‘substantial evidence’ suddenly insubstantial”); see also Gallo v. Comm’r of Soc.
Sec., 449 Fed.Appx. 648, 650 (9th Cir. 2011) (holding that reliance on VE’s DOT-
based testimony, though it contained “a seemingly antiquated reference to
typewriters,” was proper: “VE testimony may become unreliable on account of a
conflict with the DOT . . . but not on account of its compliance with the DOT.”);
Carrier v. Astrue, No. 10-67-GWU, 2011 WL 2694659, at *5 (E.D. Ky. July 12,
2011) (rejecting an argument “that the DOT is an obsolete resource”); Ragland v.
Berryhill, No. 17-C-730, 2018 WL 1757656, at *11 & *11 nn.8-9 (E.D. Wis. Apr.
12, 2018) (recently rejecting a claimant’s O*NET-based argument, involving the
same counsel as this case); Moffit v. Berryhill, No. 17-4015-JWL, 2018 WL
276770, at *6 (D. Kan. Jan. 3, 2018) (same); James v. Colvin, No. 16-470-EWD,
2017 WL 4185479, at *11-12 (M.D. La. Sept. 21, 2017) (same).
The Court adds the observation, while continuing to echo the many already-levied
criticisms, that Cunningham cited no legal authority for its broad musings, instead
principally relying on the panel majority’s “common sense” to reach its
conclusions. See 360 Fed.Appx. at 615. This approach, divorced from prior and
subsequent Sixth Circuit case law, departs from typically deferential, substantial-
evidence review and empties the force from much of Cunningham’s generalized
commentary. See also, e.g., Moffit, 2018 WL 276770, at *6 (noting the “first
finding” of the SSA-commissioned Occupational Information Development
Advisory Panel that “the O*NET in its current form is not suitable for disability
adjudication”); see also Occupational Info. Dev. Advisory Panel, Findings Report
(June 28, 2010), https://www.ssa.gov/oidap/Documents/COMPLETE% 20FINAL-
-Findings% 20Report% 20OIDAP% 20062810.pdf, at 3, 10-11.
2018 WL 3040894 at *7–8 (emphasis in original).
The court in Kidd emphasized that it was not concluding that reliance on O*NET is
precluded in all instances, “but rather that the SSA still considers the DOT reliable, that there is
(at least) debate concerning [the utility of O*NET], and that an ALJ has considerable discretion
when assessing VE testimony (and its underlying bases) for reliability and currency. 2018 WL
3040894 at *9 (citations omitted). The Court adopts this reasoning here.
Regardless, the question is whether substantial evidence supports the ALJ’s Step 5
decision in the instant case. Here, the Court finds that substantial evidence supports the ALJ’s
Step 5 decision. Even is substantial evidence supported a contrary conclusion, the Court will
uphold an administrative decision that is supported by substantial evidence. Jones, 336 F.3d at
475.
The ALJ considered Plaintiff’s extensive post-hearing objections to the VE’s testimony.
(R. at 12–14.) Based on this record, the Court concludes that Plaintiff received a full and fair
hearing. See Burdine v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., No. 1:17-cv-1133, 2019 WL 1349486, at *4 (W.D.
Mich. March 26, 2019) (holding that ALJ considered plaintiff’s post-hearing objections and that
based on the record plaintiff received a full and fair hearing) (citations omitted). Plaintiff’s
contention of error is, therefore, OVERRULED.
VII. CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, the Court concludes that substantial evidence supports the
ALJ’s decision denying benefits. Accordingly, Plaintiff’s Statement of Errors is OVERRULED
and the Commissioner’s decision is AFFIRMED.
IT IS SO ORDERED
Date: August 26, 2019 /s/ Elizabeth A. Preston Deavers_________
ELIZABETH A. PRESTON DEAVERS
CHIEF UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE