declining plaintiff’s request to shift travel costs to defendant and ordering that deposition be conducted via written questions pursuant to Rule 31
How later courts described this case
- declining plaintiff’s request to shift travel costs to defendant and ordering that deposition be conducted via written questions pursuant to Rule 31
- “A district court has wide discretion to establish the time and place of 10 depositions.”
- noting that “case law indicates that it will be presumed that the defendant will be examined at his residence or place of business or employment”
- “Factors guiding the [c]ourt’s discretion include the cost, convenience, and litigation efficiency of the designated location.”
Written by the judges who cited it.
The opinion
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8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
9 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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11 PRUCO LIFE INSURANCE Case No.: 3:18-cv-02280-DMS-AHG
COMPANY,
12 ORDER DENYING MOTIONS FOR
Plaintiff, PROTECTIVE ORDER
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REGARDING THE DEPOSITIONS
v.
14 OF JASON VOELKER AND
CALIFORNIA ENERGY MICKEY NICHOLSON
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DEVELOPMENT INC., et al.,
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Defendants.
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19 I. BACKGROUND
20 On October 18, 2021, the Court issued an Order Setting Firm Dates for Certain
21 Outstanding Depositions. ECF No. 300. In that Order, the Court set firm dates for the
22 depositions of several witnesses in the case, including parties Mickey Nicholson and Jason
23 Voelker. Id. at 2. The Court specified that Mr. Voelker would be deposed both in his
24 individual capacity and in his capacity as the 30(b)(6) representative of California Energy
25 Development, Inc. (“CEDI”). Id. The Court further set a deadline of October 27, 2021 for
26 any party who wished to request that his/its deposition take place outside the Southern
27 District of California—without a stipulation to that effect by all parties—to “submit legal
28 authority by email to the Court” in support. Id. at 3.
1 In response, counsel for CEDI submitted an informal motion seeking a protective
2 order pursuant to Rule 26(c)(1), requesting that the deposition of Mr. Voelker be taken
3 remotely or outside the Southern District of California. CEDI’s motion is attached hereto
4 as Exhibit A. Life Advance, LLC (“Life Advance”) submitted a response in opposition to
5 CEDI’s request on October 28, 2021, also via email to the Court. Life Advance’s
6 Opposition to CEDI’s motion is attached hereto as Exhibit B.
7 Additionally, Mickey Nicholson submitted an informal brief to the Court via email
8 on October 27, 2021, requesting that his deposition be conducted remotely. Mr.
9 Nicholson’s informal motion is attached hereto as Exhibit C. The Court ordered Life
10 Advance to lodge a response to Mr. Nicholson’s request with Court via email by noon on
11 October 29, 2021 (ECF No. 306), and Life Advance did so. Life Advance’s Opposition to
12 Mr. Nicholson’s motion is attached hereto as Exhibit D.
13 During the same timeframe, on October 26, 2021, the Court scheduled a discovery
14 conference for October 28, 2021 to discuss Pruco Life Insurance Company’s (“Pruco”)
15 Motion to Quash Deposition Subpoena of Kelly D. Fair (“Motion to Quash”). ECF No.
16 304. Following the discussion of the Motion to Quash, the Court excused counsel for Pruco
17 and allowed the remaining parties to be heard regarding the deposition-related disputes.
18 Having considered the parties’ arguments during the hearing, as well as the briefs
19 submitted informally to the Court regarding the deposition dispute, the Court DENIES the
20 request that Mr. Voelker be deposed outside of the Southern District of California, and
21 further DENIES the requests to allow Mr. Nicholson and Mr. Voelker to be deposed
22 remotely. Both Mr. Nicholson and Mr. Voelker are ORDERED to appear for their
23 depositions in person in the Southern District of California, as noticed, for the reasons that
24 follow.
25 II. LEGAL STANDARD
26 Rule 30 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure sets forth the procedures for
27 depositions. As a general rule, the deposition of a party may be set wherever the deposing
28 party designates, subject to the power of the court to grant a protective order. Lord v.
1 Flanagan, No. 13cv26-BU-DLC-JCL, 2014 WL 51655, at *2 (D. Mont. Jan. 7, 2014); see
2 S.E.C. v. Banc de Binary, No. 13cv993-RCJ-VCF, 2014 WL 1030862, at *3 (D. Nev. Mar.
3 14, 2014) (noting that Rule 30(b)(1) requires “‘[a] party who wants to depose a person by
4 oral questions [to] state the time and place of the deposition,’” and explaining that
5 “[g]enerally, this means that the examining party may unilaterally choose a deposition’s
6 location”). “[T]he court has a wide discretion in selecting the place of examination.” Lord,
7 2014 WL 51655, at *2 (quoting 8A C. WRIGHT & A. MILLER, FEDERAL PRACTICE AND
8 PROCEDURE § 2112 (3d ed. 2010)); see also Hyde & Drath v. Baker, 24 F.3d 1162, 1166
9 (9th Cir. 1994) (“A district court has wide discretion to establish the time and place of
10 depositions.”). Under Rule 30, “[t]he parties may stipulate—or the court may on motion
11 order—that a deposition be taken by telephone or other remote means,” such as video
12 conferencing. Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(b)(4); see Banc de Binary, 2014 WL 1030862, at *10
13 (‘other remote means’ includes videoconferencing).
14 Rule 26(c)(1), in turn, governs protective orders. A court may grant a protective
15 order “‘to regulate the terms, conditions, time or place of discovery.’” Cadent Ltd. v. 3M
16 Unitek Corp., 232 F.R.D. 625, 629 (C.D. Cal. 2005) (quoting Pro Billiards Tour Ass’n,
17 Inc. v R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., 187 F.R.D. 229, 230 (M.D.N.C. 1999)). Under that rule,
18 “[t]he court may, for good cause, issue an order to protect a party or person from
19 annoyance, embarrassment, oppression, or undue burden or expense[.]” Fed. R. Civ. P.
20 26(c)(1). In order to make the requisite showing of good cause, “the party seeking
21 protection bears the burden of showing specific prejudice or harm will result if no
22 protective order is granted.” Phillips ex rel. Estates of Byrd v. General Motors Corp., 307
23 F.3d 1206, 1210–11 (9th Cir. 2002); WebSideStory, Inc. v. NetRatings, Inc., No. 06cv408-
24 WQH-AJB, 2007 WL 1120567, at *1–*2 (S.D. Cal. Mar. 22, 2007) (“To establish good
25 cause, the moving party must make a clear showing of a particular and specific need for
26 the order.”). The court has broad discretion in deciding “when a protective order is
27 appropriate and what degree of protection is required.” Seattle Times Co. v. Rhinehart, 467
28 U.S. 20, 36 (1984); see Phillips, 307 F.3d at 1211–12.
1 III. DISCUSSION
2 A. CEDI’s Motion for Protective Order regarding Mr. Voelker’s Deposition
3 The Court finds that CEDI has failed to meet the Rule 26(c)(1) “good cause”
4 standard to warrant a protective order requiring Mr. Voelker’s deposition to take place
5 outside of the Southern District of California, or alternatively, that it take place remotely.
6 Specifically, CEDI requests that the Court issue a protective order requiring Life Advance
7 to take Mr. Voelker’s deposition(s) in the Northern District of California, where Mr.
8 Voelker resides and where CEDI has its principal place of business. In the alternative,
9 CEDI requests that the Court allow Mr. Voelker’s deposition to proceed remotely.
10 In its brief, CEDI argues that “the bar is set very low” to meet the good cause
11 requirement of Rule 26 where the noticed location of the deposition is not in the district
12 where the defendant lives or has its principal place of business. In support of this
13 proposition, CEDI cites to SEC v. Aly, 320 F.R.D. 116, 118 (S.D.N.Y. 2017). However,
14 the Aly case does not support CEDI’s argument that the bar is “very low.” Indeed, the case
15 cuts against CEDI’s argument in at least one significant way, because it explains that “[t]he
16 presumption that a deposition should take place where a defendant resides is based in part
17 on the assumption that the plaintiff exercised choice as to the forum of the lawsuit, and
18 thus the presumption is weakest where the plaintiff was constrained to file suit in a
19 particular forum.” Id. (emphasis added). Here, not one of the three parties involved in the
20 dispute—CEDI, Mr. Voelker, and Life Advance—is the plaintiff in this action. Instead, all
21 three are interpleader defendants who were haled into Court by Plaintiff Pruco due to their
22 competing claims to the policy proceeds at issue in this interpleader action. Therefore, as
23 explained in the very case upon which CEDI relies, the presumption is not applicable
24 where, as here, the party who noticed the deposition is not a plaintiff who chose the forum
25 of the lawsuit.1
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1 A second reason the Aly case is inapposite is that the deponent there “declared under
2 penalty of perjuy that he has assets only of approximately $1,000,” making travel from
3 Pakistan to New York a “prohibitive burden to him.” 320 F.R.D. at 118-19. Taking into
4 account the deponent’s minimal resources, as described in a sworn affidavit under penalty
5 of perjury, the failure of the deposing party to refute the affidavit, and the fact that the
6 deponent’s passport had expired and he had no visa to enter the United States, the Court
7 determined that it would be unduly burdensome to force the deponent to travel to New
8 York or another country for his deposition. Id. at 119. However, even then, the Court did
9 not require the deposing party to travel to the deponent’s place of residence in Pakistan,
10 instead ordering that the deposition take place remotely. Id. at 119-120.
11 CEDI has made no similar showing of undue burden here. Indeed, CEDI’s counsel
12 Benjamin Gale submitted his own estimates of his and Mr. Voelker’s deposition-related
13 expenses, totaling $2,250 (attached to Exhibit A). $1,500 of the anticipated expenses are
14 reported as “Gale’s lost hourly billings @ $375/hr x 4 hrs.” Other reported expenses
15 include $500 for air fare for Mr. Gale and Mr. Voelker, $150 for a rental car, and $100 for
16 meals. Setting aside the unusual proposition that the Court should consider Mr. Gale’s
17 purported inability to bill CEDI for his travel to attend depositions in connection with this
18 litigation, more significantly, CEDI has failed to show why such expenses are “undue.”
19 Notably, CEDI and Mr. Voelker are not only interpleader defendants in this action, but
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California Secretary of State website continue to show that California Energy
23 Development, Inc. is a dissolved corporation with its principal address at 8400 Miramar
Road, San Diego, California, 92126. The Statement of Information for CEDI filed on
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July 19, 2016 lists the location of the principal executive office as San Diego. Additionally,
25 minutes from the special meeting of the shareholders of CEDI held on September 29, 2020,
when a new Board of Directors was elected, show that the meeting took place at 141 North
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Magnolia Avenue, El Cajon, CA, 92020, which is also located in this district. ECF No.
27 193-2. There is no evidence before the Court that the corporation has ever been
incorporated or held its principal place of business in the San Francisco area, as Mr.
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1 they have also each brought cross-claims against Life Advance. ECF No. 209, 240, 241.
2 Maintaining and defending claims in a lawsuit will necessarily entail certain costs and
3 expenses. The question under Rule 26(c)(1) is not whether there is any cost to travel to
4 appear for a deposition noticed by an opposing party in litigation, but whether the burden
5 of the cost is undue. CEDI and Mr. Voelker have failed to make such a showing here.
6 Additionally, the Court notes that the CEDI shareholder meeting minutes show that
7 Mr. Voelker has traveled to this district in connection with CEDI business in the past. Mr.
8 Voelker has also traveled to this district to attend the Early Neutral Evaluation Conference
9 in this matter. ECF No. 125. And, as Life Advance points out in its opposition, CEDI chose
10 to designate Mr. Voelker as its 30(b)(6) representative in this action. CEDI has thus failed
11 to meet its burden of showing a “particular and specific need” for a protective order
12 requiring that the deposition take place elsewhere or by remote means. See WebSideStory,
13 2007 WL 1120567, at *1-*2.
14 Moreover, the Court finds that the circumstances of this case demand that
15 depositions take place in person. There is an exceedingly high level of distrust among all
16 parties, as evidenced by the near-constant stream of accusations of bad faith and dishonest
17 conduct the Court has faced from all sides. The credibility of the parties is also a key
18 substantive issue in this case. For that reason, the Court is not inclined to permit key
19 witnesses such as Mr. Voelker to appear by videoconference. See, e.g., Gersh v. Anglin,
20 No. CV-17-50-M-DCL-JCL, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 162473, at *4–*5 (D. Mont. Apr. 5,
21 2019) (denying request for defendant’s deposition to proceed by videoconference, because
22 “[a]s the named defendant, Anglin will also likely serve as a key witness and his credibility
23 will presumably be a central issue. Plaintiff cites several cases recognizing that a deposition
24 by remote means may be insufficient where, as here, the deponent is a key witness whose
25 testimony and credibility are central to the case. [] This Court agrees that [p]laintiff would
26 be prejudiced if Anglin is not required to appear for an in-person deposition.”); Natural-
27 Immunogenics Corp. v. Newport Trial Grp., No. 15cv2034-JVS-JCGx, 2017 WL
28 10562990, at *6 (C.D. Cal. Aug. 14, 2017) (denying motion for protective order permitting
1 depositions to proceed by videoconference, in part because “the Quintos are key witnesses
2 in this case. They are [plaintiff]’s principals; they decided to bring this litigation, and they
3 have been actively involved in making litigation decisions, as their counsel have
4 represented. Thus, it is fair to say that their testimony will be controversial, and the tenor
5 of the interactions between the parties and counsel during the depositions may be tense.
6 Videoconference depositions are not suitable for such controversial situations,” since
7 counsel would be unable to ascertain if anyone is listening in or coaching the witness); see
8 cf. Egan v. Royal Kona Resort, No. 17-322-DKW-KJM, 2018 WL 1528779, at *2 (D. Haw.
9 Mar. 28, 2018) (“Although the Court will always encourage parties to consider remote
10 depositions—particularly if the depositions do not involve key witnesses—the Court
11 agrees with Royal Kona’s concerns about the practical limitations on such depositions.
12 Here, where the depositions concern the named Plaintiffs who will be key trial witnesses,
13 the Court agrees that forcing video or telephonic depositions would unfairly prejudice
14 Royal Kona’s case evaluation and preparation.”); United States v. Approximately $57,378
15 in U.S. Currency, No. C-08-5023-MMC-BZ, 2010 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 121022, at *3–*4
16 (N.D. Cal. Oct. 27, 2010) (denying request for defendant’s deposition to proceed by
17 videoconference, because “a deposition by telephone or video conference would be
18 prejudicial to the Government’s case. This is primarily because the Government will use
19 Sims’ deposition to examine her credibility. To do this, the Government needs an in-person
20 opportunity to observe Sims’ demeanor, ask follow-up questions, and confront Sims with
21 prior inconsistent statements she has made.”); Clinton v. Cal. Dep’t of Corr., No. CIV-S-
22 05-1600-LKK-CMK-P, 2008 WL 5068586, at *2 (E.D. Cal. Nov. 25, 2008) (declining to
23 order remote deposition of plaintiff because a remote deposition would “place [defendant]
24 at a disadvantage by not allowing defense counsel to adequately observe plaintiff’s
25 demeanor to prepare for trial”).
26 B. Mr. Nicholson’s Motion for Protective Order
27 Mr. Nicholson has also requested that his deposition proceed by remote means. See
28 Exhibit C attached hereto.
1 Mr. Nicholson’s request is driven by the fact that he is the sole caretaker for his
2 mother, who suffers from a number of medical problems and is especially vulnerable to
3 COVID-19. Mr. Nicholson is concerned about exposing his mother to COVID-19 and
4 about being away from his mother in case of an emergency.
5 While the Court is more sympathetic to Mr. Nicholson’s arguments regarding his
6 request to have his deposition take place remotely, ultimately, the Court will deny the
7 request for the same reasons explained above with respect to Mr. Voelker’s deposition.
8 Like Mr. Voelker, Mr. Nicholson is also a key witness in this case whose credibility is at
9 issue, and who has brought affirmative cross-claims for relief against Life Advance. As
10 Life Advance points out in its Opposition, “discovery and other proceedings in this case
11 [have] been wrought with disputes and antagonistic, illegal activities” such that “[t]he
12 potential for technology problems, sound problems and interruptions will only exacerbate
13 those issues.” As outlined in more detail in its discussion of Mr. Voelker’s request above,
14 the Court is further swayed by Life Advance’s argument that “[e]xperienced litigation
15 attorneys read body language and find ways to engage witnesses in ways that are not
16 available in a virtual setting.” See also, e.g., Approximately $57,378 in U.S. Currency, 2010
17 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 121022, at *3–*4 (N.D. Cal. Oct. 27, 2010); Johnson v. Sager, No. C11-
18 1117-RSM-JPD, 2012 WL 213471, at *2 (W.D. Wash. Jan. 24, 2012) (granting a remote
19 deposition, but acknowledging that counsel’s “inability to see defendants and to judge their
20 personal demeanors constitutes an important consideration in the decision to permit a
21 [remote] deposition, particularly because [the deposing party] contends that defendants
22 have acted dishonestly and with discriminatory intent.”); Anguile v. Gerhart, No. CIV.A
23 93-934 (HLS), 1993 WL 414665, at *3 (D.N.J. Oct. 7, 1993) (“[T]he court agrees with the
24 defendant that counsel’s ability to see the plaintiff and judge her demeanor is important in
25 this case where the plaintiff is the key witness to most of the relevant facts . . . .”)
26 The Court also agrees with Life Advance that the need to question Mr. Nicholson
27 regarding many documents during the deposition also counsels in favor of an in-person
28 deposition, as sorting through voluminous documents remotely is “time consuming and
1 || difficult.” Further, Mr. Voelker’s place of residence is in El Cajon, California, which is
2 31.4 miles from the location of the noticed deposition at counsel for Life Advance’s
3 || office. As Life Advance points out in its opposition, Mr. Nicholson has recently appeared
4 person in this Court for Show Cause hearings on August 9 and October 12, 2021. ECF
5 || Nos. 284, 296. He also appeared in person at the CEDI shareholders meeting on September
6 || 26, 2020, when COVID-19 vaccinations were not publicly available. ECF No. 193-2.
7 Nonetheless, the Court takes seriously the very real threat of the ongoing COVID-
8 ||19 pandemic. However, in its wide discretion and considering the importance of Mr.
9 || Nicholson’s testimony and Life Advance’s ability to assess his credibility in person, the
10 || Court finds on balance that the threat is sufficiently mitigated by the fact that Life Advance
11 guaranteed that counsel, counsel’s staff, and the short-hand reporter are all fully
12 || vaccinated. Thus, although Mr. Nicholson’s request poses a closer question for the Court,
13 Court will deny the request in its discretion.
14 IV. CONCLUSION
15 For the foregoing reasons, CEDI’s and Mickey Nicholson’s informal motions for
16 || protective order, requesting that the depositions of Mr. Nicholson and Mr. Voelker take
17 || place out-of-district and/or remotely, are DENIED. As set forth in the Court’s prior Order
18 || Setting Firm Dates for Certain Outstanding Depositions (ECF No. 300), the depositions of
19 Nicholson and Mr. Voelker will take place in person in the Southern District of
20 || California.
21 IT IS SO ORDERED.
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23 | Dated: October 29, 2021 Hitaorable feet H. Goddard
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LEGAL AUTHORITY WHY DEPOSTION OF JASON VOELKER SHOULD TAKE PLACE OUTSIDE THE SOUTHERN
DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA and MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER BASED THEREON
In its order of October 18, 2021, this court offered each of the parties the opportunity to
request that his/its deposition take place outside the Southern District of California if the parties were
unwilling to enter into a stipulation to that effect. The court instructed the party making the request to
submit legal authority by email to the Court and to serve it on the other parties.
California Energy Development Inc. (CEDI) has been unable to persuade Life Advance to
stipulate to take the deposition of Jason Voelker remotely or outside the Southern District and is
therefore submitting these legal authorities in support of its request for court assistance. CEDI is
thereby accepting the court’s invitation to move the court for a protective order pursuant to Rule
26(c)(1) that would establish terms for Mr. Voelker’s deposition that are consistent with current law.
CEDI’s counsel Benjamin Gale hereby certifies that the statements made in the attached email
regarding his attempts to meet and confer with counsel for Life Advance LLC are true and correct and
that there was been no acceptable response to Mr. Gale’s attempts to meet and confer on this issue.
As set forth below, the nearly uniform position of the federal courts is that if, as here, travel-
related expenses for depositions are significant and one-sided, a party deponent may move the court to
have the deposition taken at a less costly and more convenient location or to have the opposing party
pay all or some of the expenses associated with conducting the deposition at the noticed location.
The burden is on CEDI to show that Voelker’s and CEDI’s expense and inconvenience are good
cause for the relief requested, but the cases show that, where the noticed location of the deposition is
not at the defendant’s home or business, the bar is set very low. See SEC v. Aly, 320 F.R.D. 116, 118
(S.D.N.Y. 2017). To determine whether good cause exists, courts typically begin with the question of
whether the deposition has been set at the presumptive location developed through case law. Usually
the courts go no further than to satisfy themselves on this question.
The deposition of the agent of a defendant corporation should presumptively take place at the
corporation’s principal place of business or where the witness works or resides. See Salter v. Upjohn Co.,
593 F.2d 649, 651 (5th Cir. 1979) (“It is well settled that the deposition of a corporation by its agents and
officers should ordinarily be taken at its principal place of business, especially when, as in this case, the
corporation is the defendant.”). In U.S. ex rel. Barko v. Halliburton Co. (D.D.C. 2010) 270 F.R.D. 26, 29
the court ruled there was no basis to deviate from the general rule that a corporate deposition of
defendant occur in the defendant’s principal place of business, even though that was in Amman,
Jordan. In so ruling, the court rejected plaintiff’s unsupported assertion that the deposition may require
judicial intervention and plaintiff’s equitable argument that conducting a deposition in Jordan “puts a
greater burden on the plaintiff than would be on the defendant if the deposition were conducted in the
United States.” Id. The court further found “no basis” to grant plaintiff’s request to shift plaintiff’s extra
costs associated with conducting the deposition in Jordan to defendant. Id.
The same presumption applies to individual defendants. In absence of exceptional or unusual
circumstances, if a deponent resides at a substantial distance from deposing party’s location, the
deposing party is required to take the deposition where the deponent resides, even if the deponent is a
party. See Farquhar v. Shelden, 116 F.R.D. 70, 72 (E.D. Mich. 1987) (noting that “case law indicates that
it will be presumed that the defendant will be examined at his residence or place of business or
employment”).
Because Voelker is required to appear at the deposition as a representative of CEDI, most courts
would hold that the deposition must be held where Voelker and CEDI do business. See Salter v. Upjohn
Co., 593 F.2d at 651, supra; Thomas v. Intern. Business Machs., 48 F.3d 478, 483 (10th Cir. 1995)
McArthur v. Rock Woodfired Pizza & Spirits, 318 F.R.D. 136 (W.D. Wash. 2016); Six West Retail
Acquisition v. Sony Theatre Management Corp. 203 F.R.D. 98, 107--108 (S.D.N.Y. 2001); and other cases
cited in 8A Wright & Miller, Fed. Prac. & Proc. § 2112 (3d ed.). Voelker’s and CEDI’s current place of
business is the San Francisco Bay area. See Declaration Of Jason Voelker In Support Of Protective Order
To Allow Deposition To Take Place Outside The Southern District Of California filed herewith at p.1.
The location of the deponent’s attorneys is also a relevant consideration. See Haymes v.
Columbia Pictures Corp., 16 F.R.D. 118, 123 (S.D.N.Y.1954) cited in Farquhar v. Shelden, supra. Here the
deponent’s attorney (Benjamin Gale) resides and works in the San Francisco Bay area.
There is no equitable reason to vary from the standard rule, because no legitimate special
circumstances exist to require the deponent and his counsel to bear the cost of going to San Diego for
deposition. Unlike a plaintiff, a defendant does not get to decide where a case will be heard. The usual
rule is that the lack of choice of forum is reason enough to require the deposition to be taken where the
deponent resides. See Farquhar v. Shelden supra, citing Salter v. Upjohn Co., supra; General Leasing Co.
v.Lawrence Photo–Graphic Supply, Inc., 84 F.R.D. 130, 131 (W.D. Mo. 1979) citing 8A Wright & Miller,
supra.
Although there appears to be no published decision dealing with this issue in the case of an
interpleader defendant, there is no justification for treating an interpleader defendant differently from
any other kind of defendant. Like the defendant in an ordinary civil case, an interpleader defendant has
no say in the selection of the forum for the case. This is true even where, as here, the defendant has
filed a cross-claim against the deposing party, because a defendant has no alternative as to where to file
its cross claim. See Rapoca Energy Co., L.P. v. Amci Export Corp., 199 F.R.D. 191 (W.D. Va. 2001) as cited
in 8A Wright & Miller, supra.
Also, it is improper for Life Advance to compel Voelker to go from the Bay Area to San Diego for
a deposition as a percipient witness, given that Life Advance has also noticed his deposition as a
representative of CEDI, which must be held in the Bay Area. (See the authorities cited above.) When a
party seeks to depose an individual both as a percipient witness and as a representative of a
corporation, courts almost invariably require that the two depositions be combined into one. See Order
Establishing Deposition Protocol in In re National Prescription Opiate Litigation (ND OH 2018) Case No.
1:17-MD-2804 at p. 12 (attached); Order Regarding Deposition Protocol in In Re: Fresh And Process
Potatoes Antitrust Litigation (D ID 2013) Case No. 4:10-MD-2186-BLW, at p. 5 (attached); see also
Pretrial Order No.9 on Fact Deposition Discovery in In re Flouroquinolone Products Liability Litigation (D
MN 2015) MDL No. 15-2642 (JRT) at p. 12 (also attached)
Cost, convenience, and efficiency support requiring one, and only one, videoconference
deposition of Voelker or, alternatively, the sharing of costs incurred by the deponent and his counsel.
But even if Life Advance could claim that a Zoom deposition would be costly (which it is not), a claim of
financial hardship, taken alone, would not demonstrate exceptional or compelling circumstances to
overcome the presumption under this rule. See General Leasing Co. v. Lawrence Photo-Graphic
Supply, supra cited in Wright & Miller, supra, in support of the following principle: “In absence of
exceptional or unusual circumstances, when a deponent resides at a substantial distance from deposing
party’s residence, deposing party should be required to take the deposition at location in the vicinity in
which deponent resides, even if deponent is a party; a claim of financial hardship, taken alone, does not
demonstrate exceptional or compelling circumstances under this rule.”
In 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court approved an amendment to Rule 26 that codified the courts’
inherent authority to shift discovery costs. Specifically, the amendment states that when entering a
protective order to protect a party or person from, among other things, “undue burden or expense,” the
court may specify the “time and place or the allocation of expenses, for the disclosure or
discovery[.]” Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(c)(1)(B) (emphasis added). As in the document discovery context, the
particular facts of the case determine whether the court will exercise its discretion to shift costs to the
requesting party for the deposition. See Oxbow Carbon & Minerals LLC v. Union P. R.R. Co., 322 F.R.D. 1,
10-11 (D.D.C. 2017); Wright & Miller, supra (“the court has a wide discretion in selecting the place of
examination and in attaching conditions concerning the payment of expenses,” which depend on the
particular facts of the case). See also Cadent Ltd. v. 3M Unitek Corp., 232 F.R.D. 625, 630 (C.D. Cal.
2005), acknowledging that the party taking the deposition should pay travel costs, but allowing a sharing
of costs because of the significant savings to defendants.
Where costs may not fairly be imposed on either party, courts have discretion to order a
deposition by other means. As one court put it, a court “may be as inventive as the necessities of a
particular case require.” DePetro v. Exxon Inc., 118 F.R.D. 523, 525 (M.D. Ala. 1988). For example, in
Hernandez v. Hendrix Produce, Inc., a court in the Southern District of Georgia ordered plaintiffs, migrant
workers residing in rural Mexico, to pay $1,000 to defendant produce company to cover the expense of
web-based video depositions of workers where internet depositions would save workers $15,000 in
expenses traveling from Mexico for in-person depositions in Georgia. 297 F.R.D. 538, 540-41 (S.D. Ga.
2014). In SEC v. Aly, a court in the Southern District of New York departed from the general rule that a
defendant should be deposed where he resides after concluding a deposition in either New
York, Pakistan, or another country would not eliminate an undue burden for one of the parties. 320
F.R.D. 116, 118-19 (S.D.N.Y. 2017). Instead, the court ordered that the deposition be conducted by
videoconference, which is “frequently a preferred solution to mitigate the burden of a deposition
location inconvenient to one or both sides.” Id. at 119; see also Robinson v. Tracy, 16 F.R.D. 113, 115 (D.
Mo. 1954) (declining plaintiff’s request to shift travel costs to defendant and ordering that deposition be
conducted via written questions pursuant to Rule 31). Here, as a solution to avoid excessive costs, the
court can order a remote deposition by Zoom.
Conclusion. Courts may order a deposition be held other than where the deposing party requests
“when justice requires.” 8A Wright & Miller, supra. To determine whether justice requires setting the
deposition at a location other than the deponent’s home or place of business or attaching conditions,
courts typically focus on cost, convenience, and efficiency. See, e.g., SEC v. Aly, 320 F.R.D. 116, 118
(S.D.N.Y. 2017) (“Factors guiding the [c]ourt’s discretion include the cost, convenience, and litigation
efficiency of the designated location.”). Here, these considerations support finding a way to take
Voelker’s deposition without requiring Voelker and his counsel to incur the expense, inconvenience, lost
time and exposure to Covid-19 involved in travelling 600 miles to San Diego for the deposition,
especially given that no great benefit is gained by Life Advance LLC by compelling the deponent and his
counsel to appear in person.
Respectfully submitted on 10/27/2021.
Law Offices of Benjamin W. Gale
__/s/__________________________________
Benjamin W. Gale, Attorneys for California Energy Development Corporation, Inc.
Benjamin W. Gale, SBN 107985
1
LAW OFFICES OF BENJAMIN W. GALE
2 810 E Street
San Rafael, California 94901
3 Email: bengalelaw@gmail.com
Tel: 415-492-9800; Fax: 415-795-4636
4
5 Attorney for California Energy Development, Inc.
6
7 THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
8 IN AND FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
9
PRUCO LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY, an Case No: 18-CV-2280 DMS AHG
10 Arizona Corporation,
DECLARATION OF JASON VOELKER IN
11
Plaintiff, SUPPORT OF PROTECTIVE ORDER TO
12 ALLOW DEPOSITION TO TAKE PLACE
vs. OUTSIDE THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF
13 CALIFORNIA
CALIFORNIA ENERGY DEVELOPMENT,
14
INC., et al.,
15
Defendants.
16
17 CALIFORNIA ENERGY DEVELOPMENT,
INC., et al.,
18
Cross-Claimant,
19 vs.
20
PRUCO LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY, an
21 Arizona Corporation; TIMOTHY BRYSON, an
individual; MICKEY NICHOLSON, an
22 individual; JOHN J. WALSH, an individual;
EDWARD SPOONER, trustee of the LIVING
23
TRUST OF EDWARD SPOONER; LIFE
24 ADVANCE, LLC, a Nevada limited liability
corporation; and JASON VOELKER, an
25 individual
26
Cross-Defendants.
27
AND RELATED CROSS-CLAIMS
28
1 I, Jason Voelker, hereby declare:
2 1. I am a resident of Marin County, California, and work in the San Francisco Bay Area.
3 I am currently employed by the Contra Costa County Superior Court where I serve as
4 a research librarian in both the Richmond and Martinez Court Branches. I also serve as
5 a contract paralegal for various attorneys in the Bay Area.
6 2. In addition to the above duties, I serve as the Secretary of California Energy
7 Development Inc. (“CEDI”), a dissolved California corporation. The current place of
8 business for CEDI is in San Rafael, California.
9 3. The corporate file is kept by the Law Offices of Benjamin W. Gale, Esq., at 810 E
Street, San Rafael, California. The only business of CEDI at present is conducted
10
through Mr. Gale’s office.
11
4. Life Advance LLC has subpoenaed me to attend a two-day deposition in Southern
12
California in this action.
13
5. The exact location of the deposition is 2163 Newcastle Ave STE 200, Cardiff, CA
14
92007, which, according to my online map, is 488 miles from my home. By road, the
15
total trip would be more than 500 miles each way.
16
6. The subpoena requests that I bring CEDI’s entire corporate file, which I would need to
17
assemble through the Law Offices of Benjamin Gale in San Rafael. I would then need
18
to transport the file to Southern California by plane, and then rent a vehicle to drive to
19
Cardiff to attend the deposition.
20
7. To ensure that I am timely, I would need to likely arrive a day early, obtain a hotel,
21
and then drive to the deposition in the morning.
22
8. Neither CEDI nor I have any funds to pay the costs associated with this trip. CEDI’s
23
former CEO James Roberts misappropriated all of CEDI’s funds before he died, and
24
my checking account balance is currently less than $600. Also, I cannot afford to take
25
more than one day off work and still support my family. My wife does not contribute
26
to family income, as she is fully employed caring for our two daughters.
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1 9. My daughters are both under the age of 3. Due to the current Pandemic, I have
2 extreme trepidation about traveling through airports and long-distance travel, because
3 the US Food and Drug Administration (“FDA”) has not yet approved a vaccine for
4 kids under the age of 5.
5 10. While the FDA has recently recommended Pfizer’s Covid 19-vaccine to children over
6 the age of 5, the FDA still needs to give the vaccine official authorization, and another
7 independent committee to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will
8 issue guidance next week on how shots roll out, but no vaccines are yet available for
9 my daughters.
11. Because of the Pandemic, and because my daughters have yet to be vaccinated, I am
10
hesitant to travel. But, as noted above, I do not currently have the economic means at
11
this time to afford the costs associated with such travel.
12
12. Based upon the above, I am requesting that the Court allow me to attend the
13
deposition via Zoom video conference and submit the requested documents
14
electronically through DropBox, Google Docs, or another electronic document
15
service.
16
13. If the Court determines that I must attend the deposition in person, I would ask that the
17
opposing side pay my related expenses.
18
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the state of California that the foregoing is
19
true and correct and that this declaration was executed in San Rafael, California.
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Dated: 10/27/2021
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/s/
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Jason Voelker
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GALE AND VOLKER DEPOSITION-RELATED EXPENSES
Air fares……………………………………………………………………… $500
Gale’s lost hourly billings @ $375/hr x 4 hrs………..…… 1,500
Rental car…………………………………………………………..……… 150
Per diem meals………………………………………………..………… 100
Total: $2,250
1 Russell M. De Phillips; (CSB #95034)
Roy L. Carlson, Jr.; (CSB #123553)
2 MILBERG & DE PHILLIPS, P.C.
2163 Newcastle Avenue, Suite 200
3 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007-1824
Telephone: (760) 943-7103
4 Facsimile: (760) 943-6750
5 Attorneys for Defendant and Cross-Claimant,
Life Advance, LLC
6
7
8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
9 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
10
11 PRUCO LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY, an Case No. 18cv2280-DMS-AHG
Arizona Corporation,
12 LIFE ADVANCE, LLC’S OPPOSITION TO
Plaintiff, REQUEST FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER TO
13 ALLOW DEPOSITION TO TAKE PLACE
v. OUTSIDE THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF
14 CALIFORNIA
CALIFORNIA ENERGY DEVELOPMENT,
15 INC., a dissolved California Corporation,
TIMOTHY BRYSON, an individual,
16 MICKEY NICHOLSON, an individual, Assigned to HON. DANA M. SABRAW
JOHN J. WALSH, an individual, EDWARD
17 SPOONER, trustee of the LIVING TRUST
OF EDWARD SPOONER, LIFE ADVANCE, DATE: October 28, 2021
18 LLC, a Nevada corporation, JASON TIME: 3:00 p.m.
VOELKER, an individual; AND DOES 2-10, DEPT: 3B
19
Defendant. To be heard by HON. ALLISON H.
20 GODDARD via zoom
21 AND RELATED CROSS-ACTION.
_____________________________________
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24 California Energy Development Inc. (“California Energy”) seeks to have the Court order that
25 the deposition of Jason Voelker (“Voelker”), both as a party witness and as the designated
26 representative of California Energy, be taken remotely or outside the Southern District of
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1 California.1 This comes after both California Energy and Voelker individually failed to appear for
2 their duly noticed depositions. Life Advance, LLC (“Life Advance”) incurred costs in connection
3 with those failures to appear.2
4 The deposition of Voelker was noticed in July and the deposition of California Energy was
5 noticed in September. That California Energy is only now seeking to change the location of the
6 depositions smacks of bad faith. A motion for a protective order could have been served weeks ago
7 that actually gives Life Advance an adequate opportunity to respond to the authorities presented by
8 California Energy.
9 In the statement of legal authority presented by California Energy in support of its request
10 and in the accompanying declaration of Mr. Voelker sent to Life Advance the afternoon of October
11 27, 2021, California Energy incorrectly states that Life Advance has noticed Voelker’s deposition
12 as a representative of California Energy and that Voelker was subpoenaed to attend a two-day
13 deposition (Voelker Declaration at ¶ 4.).
14 Life Advance served a Notice of Taking Deposition of California Energy Development Inc.
15 and Request for Production of Documents subpoena on California Energy under Rule 30(b)(6) of
16 the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure on September 24, 2021. A deposition was noticed for October
17 15, 2021. Life Advance requested that California Energy designate the person or persons most
18 knowledgeable and prepared to testify on behalf of California Energy concerning the following
19 matters:
20 For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the identity of all officers of
California Energy Development Inc.
21
For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the identity of all directors of
22 California Energy Development Inc.
23 For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the identity of all shareholders
24
25 1 It is unclear whether Jason Voelker has filed his own motion to change the location of
26 his deposition as a party witness or whether California Energy’s counsel, Benjamin Gale, is now
representing Mr. Voelker and pursuing a change on his behalf.
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2 Life Advance was not served with an actual motion for a protective order and reserves
28 the right to submit a more complete opposition as it was given less than 24 hours notice of the
1 of California Energy Development Inc.
2 For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the identity of all creditors of
California Energy Development Inc.
3
For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the identity of all employees of
4 California Energy Development Inc.
5 For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the identity of all investors of
California Energy Development Inc.
6
For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the business operations of
7 California Energy Development Inc.
8 For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the relationship between Janson
& Associates Global Consulting and California Energy Development Inc.
9
For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the relationship between US
10 Energy Concepts, Inc. and California Energy Development Inc.
11 For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the relationship between Mickey
Nicholson and California Energy Development Inc.
12
For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the relationship between Texas
13 Energy Concepts, Inc. and California Energy Development Inc.
14 For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the relationship between Centrair
Energy, Inc. and California Energy Development Inc.
15
For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present the amount of compensation
16 earned by Mickey Nicholson from California Energy Development, Inc.
17 For the period from January 1, 2016 to the present, the premiums paid by California
Energy Development Inc. for the Term Elite life insurance policy, Policy No. L9 301
18 242 originally issued by PRUCO LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY on or about
January 23, 2016 (“the Policy”).
19
For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the corporate authority of
20 California Energy Development Inc. to purchase the Policy.
21 For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, the corporate records of
California Energy Development Inc.
22
The corporate authority to file the civil suit in San Diego Superior Court, Case No.
23 37-2016-00015524-CU-BT-CTL.
24 For the period from October 1, 2015 to the present, any consideration received by
California Energy Development Inc. for issuance of any equity security interest in
25 California Energy Development Inc.
26 California Energy apparently has designated Voelker to testify on its behalf. Life Advance
27 did not specifically name Voelker in this Notice and has serious doubts that Voelker has personal
28 knowledge of the areas sought to be discovered. There was no appearance by any representative of
1 California Energy at the noticed deposition on October 15, 2021, and Life Advance incurred $600.85
2 in court reporter costs (attached) plus $150 for attorneys fees.
3 Life Advance served a Notice of Taking Deposition of Jason Paul Voelker and Request for
4 Production of Documents on Voelker on July 15, 2021. The deposition was noticed for October 14,
5 2021. Voelker failed to appear for his deposition on October 14, 2021, and Life Advance incurred
6 $250.00 in court reporter costs (attached) plus $150 for attorneys fees.
7 Now, after failing to appear at two depositions, California Energy seeks to have the re-
8 noticed depositions of California Energy and Voelker taken elsewhere.
9 In the Declaration of Jason Voelker in Support of Motion of Defendant California Energy
10 Developments, Inc., to Set Aside Defaults dated November 6, 2020 (ECF No. 193-2), Mr. Voelker
11 attaches a copy of the Statement of Information for California Energy filed with the Secretary of
12 State on November 9, 2015, as Exhibit 1 to his declaration. The principal executive office and the
13 principal business office are listed as being in San Diego, CA.
14 The Statement of Information for California Energy filed on July 19, 2016, lists the principal
15 executive office as being in San Diego, CA.
16 The website of the California Secretary of State, Business Search - Entity Detail, as of
17 October 27, 2021, lists the address for California Energy as being in San Diego, CA.
18 Voelker now claims that the current place of business of California Energy is in San Rafael,
19 CA. (Voelker declaration at ¶ 2.)
20 In 2014, now retired Magistrate Judge Jan M. Adler of the Southern District of California
21 issued an opinion on the location of depositions for a corporate party. He stated:
22 Ordinarily, the deposition of a party may be noticed wherever the deposing party
designates, subject to the Court's power to grant a protective order." Fausto v.
23 Credigy Services Corp., 251 F.R.D. 427, 429 (N.D. Cal. 2008) (citation and internal
quotations omitted). However, there is a general presumption that the "deposition of
24 a corporation by its agents and officers should ordinarily be taken at its principal
place of business." Aerocrine AB v. Apieron, Inc., 267 F.R.D. 105, 108 (D. Del.
25 2010) (citing 8A C. Wright, A. Miller & R. Marcus, Federal Practice and Procedure
§ 2112 (2d ed. 1994)). This presumption can be overcome upon consideration of the
26 following factors: (1) the location of counsel for the parties in the forum district; (2)
the number of corporate representatives a party is seeking to depose; (3) the
27 likelihood of significant discovery disputes arising which would necessitate
resolution by the forum court; (4) whether the persons sought to be deposed often
28 engage in travel for business purposes; and (5) the equities with regard to the nature
1 of the claim and the parties' relationship. Cadent Ltd. v. 3M Unitek Corp., 232
F.R.D. 625, 628-29 (C.D. Cal. 2005) (citing Armsey v. Medshares Mgmt. Servs.,
2 Inc., 184 F.R.D. 569, 571 (W.D. Va. 1998)). Notwithstanding the general rule,
"corporate defendants are frequently deposed in places other than the location of the
3 principal place of business, especially in the forum where the action is pending, for
the convenience of all parties and in the general interests of judicial economy."
4 Cadent, 232 F.R.D. at 629. Because Imageware does not explain whether it seeks to
conduct the depositions in San Diego or Dallas, in examining the Cadent factors, the
5 Court considers both cities as possible locations for the depositions if they were to
proceed in the United States. Imageware Sys. v. Fulcrum Biometrics, LLC, 2014
6 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 193601, *6 (S.D. Cal. 2014).
7 Life Advance asserts that the last place of business for California Energy was in the Southern
8 District of California and the deposition of California Energy should be taken here.
9 With respect to the factors outlined by Judge Adler, the following are present:
10 1) Location of counsel. Counsel for Life Advance and pro per party Mr. Nicholson are
11 located in San Diego in the forum district. Counsel for California Energy and pro per party Mr.
12 Voelker are in Northern California.
13 2) Number of corporate representatives. California Energy has designated one person for
14 its deposition.
15 3) Likelihood of significant discovery disputes. As the Court acknowledged, there have been
16 plenty of discovery issues in this case.
17 4) Travel for business purposes. In the Declaration of Jason Voelker in Support of Motion
18 of Defendant California Energy Developments, Inc., to Set Aside Defaults dated November 6, 2020
19 (ECF No. 193-2), Mr. Voelker attaches Minutes of Special Meeting of the Shareholders of
20 California Energy Development, a California Corporation, Held on September 29, 2020 at 2:00 p.m.,
21 at the Oceanic Conference Room, 141 North Magnolia Avenue, El Cajon, CA 92020 as Exhibit 11
22 to his declaration. The minutes reflect that Mr. Voelker was present at the meeting, in the Southern
23 District of California. Thus, he has already traveled to the Southern District for business purposes.
24 5) Equities. California Energy designated Voelker. As far as Life Advance knows,
25 California Energy is not doing business and Voelker is not an employee of California Energy but
26 an officer. Voelker would already be present in this District attending his deposition with respect
27 to claims he asserted against Life Advance. California Energy failed to attend its duly noticed
28 deposition and forced Life Advance to incur unnecessary expenses.
1 The claims at issue involve a life insurance policy that was originally acquired by a
2 company doing business in the Southern District and was subsequently acquired by a company
3 doing business in the Southern District, and the Policy proceeds are currently held by the clerk in
4 the Southern District. California Energy, and Voelker, elected to pursue their claims against Life
5 Advance here.3 Those are not simply claims to the Policy as part of the interpleader action, but
6 claims seeking affirmative relief against Life Advance. While the fact that these claims are
7 permissive, standing alone, does not dictate the location of the depositions, it is not unreasonable
8 under all of the circumstances to have the deposition of California Energy conducted here. San
9 Diego is where California Energy did business and where it chose to have a shareholder meeting last
10 year.
11 Judge Anthony J. Battaglia of the Southern District of California issued an opinion when he
12 was a Magistrate Judge in 2009 regarding the location of a party deposition:
13 [T]he Court must weigh the following factors when determining whether to grant a
protective order to a defendant seeking to relocate the deposition to a site closer to
14 the defendant's residence: (1) a special showing of hardship on the part of the
defendant to be deposed; (2) the time and expense required for the plaintiff to travel
15 to the deponent's location to take the deposition; (3) the absence of a U.S. federal
judge in the defendant's location, making it difficult to rule on objections; (4)
16 whether defendant had initiated other lawsuits in the forum where the deposition is
presently noticed; and (5) the location of the plaintiff's and defendant's attorneys. See
17 Hyde & Drath v. Baker, 24 F.3d 1162, 1166 (9th Cir. 1994); Haymes v. Columbia
Pictures Corp., 16 F.R.D. 118, 123 (S.D.N.Y. 1954). Photothera, Inc. v. Oron, 2009
18 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 135857, *5 (S.D. Cal. 2009).
19 There is no special hardship for Mr. Voelker to attend his deposition in the Southern District.
20 Similar to the reasons set forth above for California Energy, the deposition of Voelker should be
21 taken in the Southern District.
22 Counsel for Life Advance has determined that in person depositions are much more effective
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24 3 "A pleading may state as a crossclaim any claim by one party against a coparty if the
claim arises out of the transaction or occurrence that is the subject matter of the original action or
25 of a counterclaim or if the claim relates to any property that is the subject matter of the original
action...." Fed.R.Civ.P. 13(g). "Such cross-claims are permissive rather than mandatory."
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Peterson v. Watt, 666 F.2d 361, 363 (9th Cir. 1982). In other words, crossclaims are not waived
27 if a party fails to assert them and they can be pursued in a separate action. Id. Once Pruco filed
its Second Amended Complaint for Interpleader and named California Energy, Voelker and Life
28 Advance as defendants, they became co-parties and the claims brought against Life Advance by
1 than depositions taken by remote means. The depositions of Mr. Voelker and California Energy are
2 extremely important. As an accommodation to the deponents, Life Advance will waive its right to
3 seek sanctions of $1,150.85 for the failure of Mr. Voelker and California Energy to appear for their
4 duly noticed depositions and pay $500.00 to the deponents to defray their expense for in person
5 deposition in the Southern District.
6 DATED: October 28, 2021 MILBERG & DE PHILLIPS, P.C.
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By: /s/ Russell M. De Phillips
8 Russell M. De Phillips
Attorneys for Defendant and Cross-Claimant
9 Life Advance, LLC
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Subject: Request to attend deposition during pandemic via zoom.
Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 11:49:21 PM
CAUTION - EXTERNAL:
Dear Judge Goddard,
I am is respectfully requesting to attend my deposition via Zoom for health and safety purposes.
As this Court is aware, I serve as a personal caretaker to my mother, who suffers from a number of medical
problems including a broken hip, stage 4 COPD and hypercapnia (CO2 retention), and multiple other medical
impairments. My mother has an autoimmune disorder and is within the vulnerable section of our community who
could be fatally harmed by Covid-19 if I were to bring it home to her.
Throughout a 24-hour period, I assist my mother with eating, bathing and dressing. I cook all the meals and clean
the kitchen afterwards. I also do my mother’s laundry, change linens, collect and sort mail, and take care of
housekeeping duties.
I am solely responsible for caring for my mother and ensuring her day-to-day safety. If I were to expose my mother
to Covid, she likely would not survive its affects.
I am therefore requesting that the court allow me to attend my upcoming deposition via Zoom. This will allow me to
be close to my mother in the event of an emergency and also prevent me from contracting and bringing home
Covid.
The Law Permits Remote Depositions
Courts may authorize remote depositions under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure (“FRCP”) 30(b)(4) and will
consider whether the burden of proposed discovery outweighs the likely benefit under FRCP 26(b)(1). Courts may
also quash a subpoena under FRCP 45(d) where compliance would subject a person to “undue burden.”
Further, various states have relaxed their rules regarding depositions to facilitate remote depositions during
Covid. For example, California has adopted Emergency Rule 11 to allow for waiver of the usual requirement that
deponents be deposed in the physical presence of the deposition officer.
Courts across the nation are authorizing depositions via remote means. See, e.g., Sinceno v. The Riverside
Church in the City of New York, 2020 WL 1302053 (S.D.N.Y. Mar. 18, 2020) (authorizing the taking of all
depositions by remote means in light of COVID-19 concerns); Thomas v. Wallace, Rush, Schmidt, Inc., No. 3:16-
cv-00572, Dkt. 160 (M.D. La. March 18, 2020), ("[g]iven Plaintiff's economic situation and the coronavirus outbreak
. . . [c]onducting Plaintiff's deposition by telephone or videoconference is appropriate"); Velicer v. Falconhead
Capital LLC, 2020 WL 1847773 at *2 (W.D. Wash. Apr. 13, 2020) (refusing to extend discovery deadline,
encouraging the parties to take depositions remotely).
This Court, too, may authorize my remote deposition under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 30(b)(4), and consider
whether the burden of proposed discovery outweighs the likely benefit under Federal Rule of Procedure 26(b)(1).
Courts liberally permit remote depositions and require the party opposing the remote deposition to make a
particularized showing as to why it would be prejudicial. See e.g., Jahr v. IU Intern. Corp., 109 F.R.D. 429, 431
(M.D.N.C. 1986) ("leave to take telephonic depositions should be liberally granted in appropriate cases . . . . Thus,
upon giving a legitimate reason for taking a deposition telephonically . . . the burden is on the opposing party to
establish why the deposition should not be conducted telephonically.").
Here, I am the sole caretaker for my mother. My mother is on constant oxygen and her co2 levels spike if not
properly monitored. I’m not sure if the court is aware of the gravity of the situation, but I have had to fight the
hospital several times in the last year to not pull the plug on my mother. Her medical conditions are severe and
she needs me by her side at this time.
As this court will recall, I previously needed to reschedule appearances in court locally in San Diego and attached
a copy of my mother’s admission paperwork and my visitor's pass reflecting her sudden triage. That was not an an
anomaly. My mother’s condition requires constant vigilance and even now as I write this, I am monitoring my
mother on oxygen.
I am therefore asking this court to allow me to continue sheltering in place during this pandemic and not be
required to drive to Cardiff to attend a 7 hour deposition where I won’t be within reach of my mother.
In many cases, the courts have encouraged the use of remote depositions. For example, in the matter of Jeffrey v.
Samsung Electronics, Case No. 15-cv-02087 (N.D.Ca. Apr 1, 2016), the court reasoned that “remote
videoconference depositions can be an effective and efficient means of reducing costs.” Lopez v. CIT Bank, N.A.,
No. 15-CV-00759 BLF (HRL), 2015 WL 10374104, at *2 (N.D. Cal. Dec. 18, 2015); Guillen v. Bank of Am. Corp.,
No. 10-CV-05825 EJD (PSG), 2011 WL 3939690, at *1 (N.D. Cal. Aug. 31, 2011); Federal Civil Procedure Before
Trial (2015), The Rutter Group, 11:1470, 11-170. Likewise, courts have noted that leave to conduct depositions by
telephone should be liberally granted and that a desire to save money constitutes good cause to depose out-of-
state witnesses through remote means. Guillen, 2011 WL 3939690, at *1; Lopez, 2015 WL 10374104, at *2. In
fact, courts have even held that when the movant desires to conduct depositions remotely, the burden is on the
opposing party to demonstrate how they would be unduly prejudiced. Guillen, 2011 WL 3939690, at *1.”
Now, as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, courts have shown an even greater willingness to allow remote
depositions and remote court reporters.
Court systems across the country clearly recognize the danger of face-to-face interactions in the midst of a
pandemic crisis, and are reacting immediately to allow parties to take depositions remotely. This court, too,
recognized that reality when it ordered the parties to attend the previous settlement conference through Zoom
even over Life Advance’s request to attend in person.
My mother needs me by her side and I do not want to potentially expose her to any hazards as a result of
attending a deposition in Cardiff where I will be stuck in a deposition for nearly 7 hours when my mother may need
my assistance within minutes.
Accordingly, I ask to attend the deposition via Zoom and I cite the above authorities with the hopes that the
opposing side will either stipulate to the Zoom conference or acquiesce because they know it is the right thing to
do under the current circumstances.
Alternatively, I ask the court to issue an order allowing me to attend the deposition remotely given the
circumstances. Other witnesses - Chris Chanowski, Ben Thomas Hamilton, and Erik Porter - were all allowed to
attend via Zoom. They also submitted their documents electronically. Also, Craig Stack and Daniel Miller will be
deposed via Zoom.
Why then would it be prejudicial to allow me to avail myself of the same courtesy shown to all the other witnesses?
Thank you for your consideration your honor.
Sincerely,
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FTroo:m: MCAaSgDgideb C_oenfilaen Gtoddard
Cc: Russell De Phillips; Roy Carlson, Jr.; Benjamin Gale; Jason Voelker; Mickey Nicholson
Subject: Pruco Life Insurance Company v. California Energy Development, Inc.
Date: Friday, October 29, 2021 11:41:05 AM
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Re: Pruco Life Insurance Company v. California Energy Development
USDC, Southern District of California, Case No. 18cv2280-DMS-AHG
Honorable Allison H. Goddard:
Per the Court's Order Following Discovery Conference Regarding Motion to Quash Deposition
Subpoena [ECF No. 306], the following is the Response of Life Advance, LLC to Mickey Nicholson's
Request for Protective Order requiring the deposition of Mickey Nicholson to take place remotely:
Life Advance, LLC Response
Mickey Nicholson, a party who has asserted several claims against Life Advance, has requested that
his long-awaited deposition be taken via Zoom. Life Advance is very mindful of the health and safety
concerns raised by Mr. Nicholson. However, Life Advance opposes the request. Counsel and its staff
are fully vaccinated as is the short-hand reporter. Mr. Nicholson has attended recent court hearings
in person, he was seen recently outside the courthouse without a mask, and he has purportedly
participated in other events in connection with California Energy Development Inc. (“California
Energy”) in person.
Life Advance postponed the scheduled in person deposition of Mr. Nicholson that was set for
October 11, 2021, at 10:00 a.m., at his request because he had an in person court appearance on
October 12, 2021. The Court, in its Order Setting Further Show Cause Hearing Against John Walsh
and Mickey Nicholson and Calling Leon-Qiyam Pogue as the Court’s Own Witness (ECF No. 289), had
required a personal appearance by Mr. Nicholson at the hearing on October 12, 2021. The Order
references another hearing on August 9, 2021, where Mr. Nicholson was required to appear.
In the Declaration of Jason Voelker in Support of Motion of Defendant California Energy
Development, Inc., to Set Aside Defaults dated November 6, 2020 (ECF No. 193-2), Mr. Voelker
attached, as Exhibit 11 to his declaration, Minutes of Special Meeting of the Shareholders of
California Energy Development, a California Corporation, Held on September 29, 2020 at 2:00 p.m.,
at the Oceanic Conference Room, 141 North Magnolia Avenue, El Cajon, CA 92020. The minutes
reflect that Mr. Nicholson was present at the meeting, at a time prior to vaccinations being publicly
available.
Mr. Nicholson is a central party to this litigation. He may or may not produce the documents he has
been requested to produce in advance of his deposition. However, there are several documents Mr.
Nicholson will be questioned about and a remote deposition makes that much more time consuming
and difficult. Moreover, as the Court well knows, discovery and other proceedings in this case has
witness may find it easier to remain obstinate in a virtual deposition since they are not sharing a
table or room with counsel. Experienced litigation attorneys read body language and find ways to
engage witnesses in ways that are not available in a virtual setting.
Unlike in some of the cases cited by Mr. Nicholson, there are no significant cost savings by requiring
that Life Advance take the deposition remotely. Mr. Nicholson’s residence is approximately 25 miles
from the location of the deposition.
Mr. Nicholson also mentions three non-party witnesses whose depositions were taken remotely. The
two depositions taken by Life Advance were done remotely because the deponents were located out
of state. Moreover, they did not produce any documents despite testifying that they may have
responsive documents. The third witness, in a deposition taken by California Energy, resides in the
Southern District and the attorneys taking the depositions are located in the Northern District.
Completely different circumstances.
Counsel for Life Advance has determined that in person depositions are much more effective than
depositions taken by remote means. The deposition of Mr. Nicholson is extremely important and
should be taken in person.
Respectfully,
Maggie Conant
Legal Assistant to Russell M. De Phillips, Esq.
Milberg & De Phillips, P.C.
2163 Newcastle Avenue, Suite 200
Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
Phone: (760) 943-7103
Facsimile: (760) 943-6750
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