United States v. Microsoft Corporation; Public Comments; Notice (MTC-00029649 - MTC-00030631)

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MTC-00029649

Wayne Stringer

1270 205th St

Fort Seott, KS 66701

January 26, 2002

Attorney Renata Hesse

Department of Justice, Antitrust Arty

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington. DC 20530

Dear Attorney Hesse.

I strongly encourage your support in accepting the proposed

settlement in the Microsoft antitrust suit "Microsoft. has

simply provided a product that meets a market demand at a price the

consumer is willing to pay. If anything, their competitors have used

similar tactics to grow their own business--in a sense. keeping

the marketplace fair.

The unfairness lies in Microsoft's competitors using the marts

to accomplish what they couldn't do in the marketplace. ??'s Larry

Ellison has very publicly decreed their he will unseat Microsoft as

the number one player in the software industry, and he will do

anything to accomplish that goal I sincerely object to this move to

replace the free market system with court manipulation.

With all due respect. I hope you object as welt.

I encourage yore full acceptance and approval of the settlement.

I truly believe it addresses all involved and allows Microsoft and

the industry to move forward on a positive, note.

Sincerely,

Wayne Stringer

January 27, 2002, 11:40 pm

Antitrust Division

U.S. Dept. of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington DC, 20530-001

To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing to exercise my right under the Tunney Act to voice

my strong disapproval of the current proposed settlement of the

Microsoft anti-trust trial. The proposed settlement is both weak and

lacking strong enforcement provisions, and is likely to have zero

(or worse) effect on competition within the computer industry, with

continued and increased harm to consumers in the form of fewer

options in the software market and continued increases in the price

of the Microsoft software consumers are forced to buy.

Microsoft was convicted of abuse of monopoly power by one

Federal judge, and the judgment was largely upheld by another seven

Federal justices. In evaluating any proposed settlement, keep

repeating one Important Phrase over and over: "Microsoft is

guilty."

The seven justices of the appeals court ruled that any actions

taken against Microsoft (a) must restore competition to the affected

market, (b) must deprive Microsoft of the "fruits of its

illegal conduct," and (c) must prevent Microsoft from engaging

in similar tactics in the future. The proposed settlement fails on

every one of these.

(A) Restore Competition

Among the many flaws in the proposed settlement is the complete

disregard for the Open Source software movement, which poses the

single greatest competitive threat to Microsoft's monopoly.

Most organizations writing Open Source software are not-for-

profit groups, many without a formal organization status at all.

Section III(J)(2) contains strong language against non-for-profits,

to say nothing of the even less-formal groups of people working on

projects.

Section III(D) also contains provisions which exclude all but

commercially-oriented concerns.

To restore competition the settlement must make allowances for

Open Source organizations--whether formal not-for-profit

organizations or informal, loosely associated groups of

developers--to gain access to the same information and

privileges afforded commercial concerns.

(B) Deprivation of Ill-Gotten Gains

Nowhere in the proposed settlement is there any provision to

deprive Microsoft of the gains deriving from their illegal conduct.

Go back to the Important Phrase: "Microsoft is guilty."

In most systems of justice, we punish the guilty. But the current

proposal offers nothing in the way of punishment, only changes in

future behavior.

Currently Microsoft has cash holdings in excess of US$40

billion, and increases that by more than US$1 billion each month. A

monetary fine large enough to have an impact on them would be a

minimum of US$5 billion.

Even a fine that large would be a minimal punishment.

Microsoft's cash stockpile is used, frequently and repeatedly, to

bludgeon competitors, buy or force their way into new markets, or

simply purchase customers, with the long-term intent to lock people

and organizations into proprietary software on which they can set

the price. Taking a "mere" US$5 billion from their

stockpile will have zero effect on this practice.

For that reason, Microsoft's cash stockpile must be further

reduced. In addition to the monetary fine, Microsoft should be

forced to pay shareholders a cash dividend in any quarter in which

they post a profit and hold cash reserves in excess of US$10

billion. The dividend should be substantial enough to lower

Microsoft's cash holdings by US$1 billion, or 10%, whichever is

greater.

(C) Prevention of Future Illegal Conduct

The current proposed settlement allows Microsoft to effectively

choose two of the three individuals who would provide oversight of

Microsoft's conduct and resolve disputes. The proposed settlement

also requires the committee to work in secret, and individuals

serving on the committee would be barred from making public or

testifying about anything they learn.

This structure virtually guarantees that Microsoft will be

"overseen" by a do-nothing committee with virtually zero

desire or ability to either correct Microsoft abuses, or even call

attention to them.

Instead of the current proposal, a five-person committee should

be selected. Microsoft may appoint one person, but will have no

influence over any of the other four. For the four, two should be

appointed by the Federal court of jurisdiction, one should be

appointed by the U.S. Department of Justice, and one should be

appointed by the U.S. Senate. At least two of the appointees should

have technical experience and be competent to evaluate technical

proposals and arguments by themselves, without the filters which

assistants would bring.

These are hardly the only thoughtful and reasonable suggestions

you will no doubt receive regarding the proposed settlement of this

anti-trust case. And these are hardly the only suggestions which

should be adopted if the settlement is to prove effective. But all

of them are essential to that aim, and adopt them you must,

Thank you for your time and the opportunity to comment.

Respectfully,

Michael A. Alderete

569 Haight Street

San Francisco, CA 94117

(415) 861-5758

michael @ alderete.com

MTC-00029652

Ms. Renata Hesse

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street, NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse:

I am writing in supp ort of the consent decree for the Microsoft

settlement. Microsoft has show itself to be an innovator and a

company whose products make lives better for he average American.

This lawsuit is bad for consumers and ba?? for the economy.

By supper ting the consent degree, you will put an end to a

lawsuit theft has become more political than substantive. The Bush

administration priorities have been amazingly out of step and out of

touch with the American public Hopefully they will at least get this

one right and settle the suit. The I maybe we can all move on to a

healthy economy and a healthy debate concerning the future of our

nation.

Thank you.

Sincerely

Tim Allison Executive Board Member

CA Democratic Party

Title for identification purposes only. This letter reflects the

solely the opin on of the signer.

MTC-00029653

January 25, 2002

Renata hesse

Trial Attorney, Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street, NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse,

The Microsoft Lawsuit Is Bad for Business and Bad for Consumers.

For many, the idea of attacking one of the most successful

companies in American history, and its CEO Bill Gates, sounds like

fun. But the Department of Justice's pursuit of Microsoft is no

laughing matter, having cost American taxpayers well over $35

million in litigation so far and the meter is still running.

The reality is that this lawsuit does nothing to benefit

consummers. It does however benefit Microsoft's competitors, who

after spending millions of dollars lobbying the Department of

Justice to file this suit want a return on their investment. Also,

it benefits the lawyers who have made a fortune on both

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sides of this issue... and the Attorneys General and bureaucrats who

are making political hay, back home by demonizing Microsoft. The

real beneficiaries are the powerful anti-Microsoft forces not

consumers.

The Cost To Businesses and Consumers in Just Too High.

Rather than protecting consumers, drastic remedies such as

breaking up Microsoft would be a disaster for consumers and

businesses. The integration and standardization Windows brought us

has been a boon for the public as well as for our economic

productivity. What Bill Gates understood, much to his

competitors" chagrin, was that consumers- people who use

computers, not live computers--want an affordable and reliable

system that works with and understands other systems.

Government intervention into the world of high tech programming

and design sets a dangerous and potially disastrous precedent.

Dictating to Microsoft what technology it can develop will decrease

the effectiveness of existing products or meet the expanding needs

of users could cripple the technological innovation that has been

the hallmark of hour high tech, internet economy.

One could argue in fact that the genesis of the huge decline in

the Nasdaq, which so far has resulted in more than $2 trillion of

lost wealth, is primarily the result of the government's sustained

attack on Microsoft's right to innovate. After all, today Microsoft,

tomorrow Intel.

Over the past 10 years, Microsoft has lowered its prices,

created a better product, and invested enormous sums of money in

research and development. This doesn't sound like monopolistic

behavior by any standard.

The government's pursuit of Microsoft has cost the American

taxpayer over $35 million so far with devastating results for state

and private pension funds, and small investors, all over the

country, [illigible] state pension funds have lost $144.2 billion.

Here in California, since the March, 2000, break down of mediation

on the case, Public Employee Retirement System funds have dropped

more than $59 billion while the State Teacher Retirement fund lost

$15 billion.

We hope the consent decree is adopted and the federal lawsuit is

dropped. If not, it may be time to [illegible] our elected

representatives to do the right thing and allow Microsoft to

continue its history of investment, innovation and improvement The

American economy depends on it.

Sincerely

Joe [illegible]

Executive Director, SBCTA

214 East Victoria Street,

Santa Barbara, California 93101

Tel: 805.965.9415

Fax: 565-7915

email: info @ sbcta.org www.sbcta.org

MTC-00029654

January 9, 2002

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D S??et NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse,

As a member of the North Carolina General Assembly, I have

always sought to make government a cooperative partner of business

and industry. After all, business and industry creates jobs that

enhance the lives of countless North Carolinians.

For several years, I have witnessed the federal government's

pursuit of a lawsuit against Microsoft, one of the most successful

companies in the history of American business. This suit has cost

the taxpayers upwards of $30 million over the past years.

I request that Judge Kollar Kotelly approve the settlement that

the Department of Justice and Microsoft have both agreed upon. In

addition, I am pleased to say that my state, North Carolina, has

also signed the agreement and decided to settle.

In spite of the fact that nine state attorneys general plan to

prolong their cases against Microsoft, I believe the federal case

should be settled.

Sincerely,

Jeffrey L. Barnhart

State Representative

MTC-00029655

January 23, 2002

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street, NW suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse,

As a business executive who travels to Chicago on business from

my home in Greensboro nearly every week, I know how important

Microsoft's business technology is to American business, In fact, I

find Microsoft's products to be bery helpful when I travel abroad on

business as well.

I realize that not everyone travels to the extent that I do, but

I would imagine that most people who work In business do rely on

Microsoft products to a great extent. And shouldn't they?

Microsoft's products are universally recognized as the industry

leader and they've improved communication for American businesses,

schools and government.

Virtually everyone uses Microsoft's products, Executives,

attorneys, entrepreneurs, educators and government officials know

that Microsoft is the universal leader in technological innovation

They all have great confidence In Microsoft's products to get the

job done.

I read recently that Microsoft and the federal government agreed

to settle the antitrust lawsuit they've been engaged in for a number

of years. That's good news for businesses, families, the stock

market and the American economy, our economy needs a shot in the arm

at this point in time, and I believe that this settlement will

provide it, I request that Judge Kollar-Kotelly approve this

settlement. Thank you for your consideration of my comments.

Sincerely,

Kumar Lakhavani

Senior Manager

HR Dynamics Global Practice

MTC-00029656

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse:

As a member of the Greenville City Council, I am concerned about

the off??er that the Microsoft anti??rust lawsuit is having on both

the business and educational institutions in our city. I am a newly

elected member of the council, a member who ran in order to create a

more efficient government for our ??tizens. I am also concerned that

the government operates efficiently.

The American people have a twofold desire in regard to the

Microsoft suit, as I see it. First, they want the federal government

to work to create a more positive business climate for all

Americans. Government needs to use its power to encourage private

investment, innovation and job growth, Second, it is the moral

responsibility of the federal government to use taxpayers' funds

wisely.

The government's work in fostering a strong coonomy is

par??licularly timely right now. After all, the unemployment rate is

up, the stock market is down, and consumer spending is off. We've

got to get back on track. I can think of no more positive action for

the federal government to take than for its courts to approve the

settlement in the Microsoft case.

Also, Americans today are paying taxes to the federal government

at the highest rate per capita in over fifty years. It is the

government's responsibility to see to it that these funds are used

responsibly for the benefit and general welfare of the American

people. The Microsoft lawsuit has cost the American people $30

million to prosecute. It's time to and this litigious spending.

Thank goodness both parties want the suit to end. They have come

to art amicable settlement. I urge Judge Kollar-Kotelly to approve

the settlement.

Sincerely,

Ray Craft

Council Member

MTC-00029657

January 18, 2002

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Departnent of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse:

As a business leader who has served as Chairman of the American

Furniture against Microsoft is close to ending. Virtually all of the

executives in business and industry that I am in contact with want

to see the case settled.

Our society has become more litigious than ever. Litigation

costs business money... and can cost employees their jobs That's why

l believe that we ought to move beyond this ease. There are so many

societal problems for us to contend with no the least of which is

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our ourrent economic recession. We need to focus on growth, and we

aced the government to be a true partner in that effort.

The company that I own uses Microsoft products every day. t find

them to be useful in making my business more efficient.

En??epreneurial life is much different from the legal profession. If

I am not constantly looking for now niches in which to make a

profit, my business will lag. Microsoft products have made my

business more productive, and I think it's time to settle this

lawsuit so that Microsoft can focus all its resources on creating

new products to benefit businesses like mine.

Microsoft and the federal government are in agreement On the

settlement, I strongly urge Judge Kollar-Kotelly to quickly approve

the settlement Let's set me economy moving again.

Sincerely,

J. Ray Shufelt

CEO

MTC-00029658

Beth Saine

Lincoln County Commissioner

1760 Whispering Pines Drive

Lincolnton, NC 28092

704.735,3297

January 18, 2002

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Divisions Department of Justice

60l D Strut NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Fax: 202-616-9937

As a member of the Lincoln County Commission, I am pleased that

the United States Justice Department is settling with Microsoft.

Technology is so important to the future of counties like ours all

across America, and this settlement will enhance all facets of the

tech industry in the coming years.

Our neighbors in Mecklenburg County have had many advantages

over Lincoln County, and other counties in the past. Charlotte is

the nation's mega banking centaur. That attracts business, and with

it comes a substantial local fax base. I'm not saying that money is

everything, but huge counties have had a traditional advantage over

smaller ones in the past. As a result, they have had an easier time

funding essential county services, such as school improvements.

Technology quite simply levels the playing field for average-sized

counties across America.

When someone togs on to the internet, it doesn't matter if

they're sitting in Raleigh or Hanging Dog, their access to

information is the same, and their ability to profit from the

proliferation of information is the same, The tech industry needs a

shot in the arm so that it can continue aiding America's counties in

o significant way. Fore this reason, I'd like to request that Judge

Keller Kotelly approves the settlement that Microsoft and the

federal government have reached. It will benefit Lincoln County, and

counties like ours across America,

Regards,

Beth Saine

MTC-00029659

North Carolina Federation of College Republicans

BOX 16160

SULLIVAN HALL

NCSU

Raleigh, NC 27607

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601D Street, N-W Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse,

As one of the younger members of the North Carolina Republican

Party's Central Committee, I have a strong interest in how

government interacts with technology so the economy is strengthened

in the future. As Chairman of the North Carolina Federation of

College Republicans, I want to formally ask that Judge Kollar

Kotelly approve the landmark settlement between the federal

government and Microsoft. Here's why:

I do not believe that Microsoft has done any harm to even one

single consumer. And without consumer harm, what reason exists to

bring an antitrust case? None. Face this fact: the future is in high

tech jobs. Also, every industry is going high tech. Imagine the

damage done by the federal government suing the technology

industry's leading company. It discourages young people from being

innovative. It discourages them from becoming entrepreneurs. Our

Republic will only survive is maintain a strong free market system.

And our market system can only thrive if companies continue to be

innovative. I hope the settlement is finalized soon, so that

American business can operate at its full capacity again soon.

Thank you for your consideration of my comments.

Sincerely,

Matthew Adams

State Chairman

MTC-00029660

Wake Forest Town Commission

January 11,2002

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse:

As a member of the Wake Forest Board of Commissioners, I am all

too aware of the high cost of government despite the fad that our

citizens and businesses endure terrible economic conditions in our

state. Out town needs revenue from increased business activity, not

higher property taxes. It seems to me that all our local industries

will be enhanced when the settlement of the Microsoft lawsuit is

completed.

As you can tell, I am adamantly opposed to higher taxes in

whatever form and work hard to ensure that tax money is spent

wisely. But, the fact is, in our growing community, we have services

that need to be paid for by government. The best way for our town to

generate additional revenue is to increase business activity in Wake

Forest. That is why I was happy to see that the federal government's

case against Microsoft had come to a settlement agreement in the

court of Judge Kollar-Kotelly, I know that this case has cost the

taxpayers of this nation $30 million, not to mention lesser sums in

the t 8 states that also brought the original lawsuits. More

significantly, it has hurt business, and local revenues, in our town

and towns across America.

I am pleased that North Carolina is one state that decided to

agree with the settlement and now no more state tax money will be

expended. I hope to see the same thing happen in the federal case as

well. That is why t am strongly urging the judge to agree to the

settlement in this case.

Sincerely,

Chris Malone

Town Commissioner

401 Owen Avenue--Woke Forest, NC 27587

MTC-00029661

January 25, 2002

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200 Washington, DC 20530 Fax:

202-616-9937

Dear Ms. Hesse:

Microsoft's products are the greatest in the technology

industry, and that is the major reason that they are regarded as a

leader m the American economy. Given that fact, it is no wonder that

when the federal court announced that Microsoft would be broken up,

the stock market came to a screeching halt, and tumbled down from

record highs.

I am very encouraged that Microsoft and the federal government

have agreed to a settlement in the antitrust case. I believe that

this is good for the economy, the government and other societal

institutions, which increasing rely on industry to invent new

products to make their operations more effective.

The settlement provides for more oversight into Microsoft's

operations, and a more competitive playing field for all companies

in the industry. That's welcome news for everyone who demands

consumer choice. It will also send the right signal to investors

that the government is prepared to work in a cooperative effort to

spur economic growth and job creation.

I request that Judge Kollar Kotelly will approve the settlement,

so that the Justice Department can conserve resources for more

pressing legal matters. Additionally, closure in this matter would

send a message that government is prepared to work with the American

business in taking constructive steps toward a brighter future for

all Americans.

Thank you,

Trustee

Rowan-Cabarrus Community College

MTC-00029662

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Fax: 202-616-9937

Dear Ms. Hesse:

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As a young business executive, I am relieved that the federal

government and Microsoft, which have been engaged in a protracted

antitrust lawsuit, have arrived at a settlement arrangement that is

amicable to both sides. Settling this case as soon as possible is

important to the technology industry, as well as many other

important segments of the economy.

In the business world, companies look at industry leaders for

innovation, and they often try to emulate the corporate

giants" successful business strategies. This partially

explains why the tach sector of the economy has been in a tailspin

for an extended period of time. When the antitrust suit is finally

ended once and for all, a dark cloud will be lifted from the entire

industry. The American economy, and to some extent, the world

economy has never been more interconnected. Each change within one

economical sector creates a ripple throughout the rest of the

economy. A major shift in one sector results in a sea change across

the board of leading economic indicators.

I work in the mortgage banking industry, a business that is

highly sensitive to the state of the national economy. While ending

the Microsoft litigation will not alone create record revenues for

our industry, I feel certain that it would boost consumer

confidence, and encourage investments in many types of business

enterprises.

Finally, I am excited about the future of technological

innovation in the workplace. Microsoft has led the way in this

regard, and finalizing the settlement will help the company refocus

on developing new and exciting products. That means a more

productive workplace in the future.

I request that Judge Kollar Kotelly approves the settlement.

Sincerely,

Stewart

MTC-00029663

January 24, 2002

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Fax: 202-616-9937

Dear Ms. Hesse:

As a long-term care specialist, I am concerned that the tumble

that the sock market has suffered is draining the finances of our

nation's elderly. We've got to get the nation's economy back on

track. The government needs to focus on ways to spur economic growth

like never before. In less than ten short years, the baby boom

generation will begin to reach retirement age. A record number of

seniors will inundate our nation's hospitals, nursing homes and

assisted living facilities. These people will need savings not for

luxury items, but to cover living expenses associated with aging.

Our nation's greatest generation, for the most part, worked at

one company for their entire working career. Their pensions are

largely vested in stocks. When the stock market is unstable, their

financial situation, and living conditions, become unstable as well.

The baby boom generation are less likely to have worked in one

company, and are less likely to have saved for a retirement. They

are, however, more likely to have invested a substantial portion, or

all, of their savings in the stock market. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE

STRENGTHEN THE ECONOMY IN ORDER TO BOLSTER THESE SAVINGS.

I request that Judge Kollar Kotelly approves the

settlementbetween Microsoft and the federal government. This lawsuit

has been proven to have caused much of the turmoil within the

economy in general, and the stock market in particular. Our nation's

retirees need security, and deserve governmental cooperation.

Sincerely,

Douglas McCabe Russell

MTC-00029664

GEORGE W. LITTLE & ASSOCIATES, INC.

INSURANCE CONSULTANTS--BROKERS

January 22, 2002

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Fax: 202-616-9937

Dear Ms, Hesse:

I have been involved in business, industry and economic

development for over thirty years. Over that period of time, I have

come to understand that a quality education system, a solid public

infrastructure and a strong flee market system are the keys to

economic development in North Carolina and across America.

Virtually every societal institution which is vital to economic

development has benefited from the proliferation of technological

advances in the past decade. Leading the way in innovative

technology is Microsoft. Their products have benefited businesses by

saving countless hours of time and making communications between

businesses seamless. Microsoft's benefits to the education system

are tremendous, Research, class instruction and other benefits have

been realized through application of these useful tools.

Governmental institutions also rely on Microsoft to maximize their

efficiency and serve, the public in a responsive manner.

For these reasons, I am gratified that federal government and

the Microsoft have agreed to a settlement in their antitrust case,

Microsoft will be able to focus its energies once again on research

and development, while the government is granted unprecedented

oversight into Microsoft's operations. Under this settlement,

economic development wins, and so do the American people.

I hope time Judge Kollar Kotelly will approve the settlement.

Sincerely,

MTC-00029665

January 23, 2002

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Fax: 202-616-9937

Dear Ms. Hesse:

I write to express my desire that the government will act in a

cooperative manner with Microsoft and similar business interests in

developing a mutually beneficial relationship. I am convinced that

now is the time to end the federal government's litigation against

Microsoft. Microsoft and the federal government have agreed to

settle the suit. The public is yearning for an economic recovery.

Congress is debating an economic stimulus package. With these facts

in mind, I am quite confident that we should move beyond the

Microsoft case and work to get our stagnant economy moving again.

As an attorney, I realize that antitrust law is an important

component of maintaining a competitive marketplace. However, company

innovation and product improvements are as well, and since both

parties have agreed to settle the lawsuit, I believe that it would

be advantageous for everyone if Microsoft can get back to doing what

it does best: researching and developing useful technological tools

for the American workplace and the American home.

The settlement guarantees that other companies will have market

access. Every new Microsoft operating system will have to include a

mechanism that enables end users to remove or re-enable Microsoft s

middleware products. While end users can already remove Microsoft

middleware from Windows XP, this settlement would make it even

easier for users to change middleware products.

I hope that Judge Kollar Kotelly approves the settlement.

Regards,

Phillip J. Strach

Attorney

MTC-00029666

Professor Eric Brodin

P.O. Box 209

Bules Creek, NC 27506

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse:

During my career as a columnist and professor. I have written

over 3,000 articles for various publications such as the Dana Daily

Record, the Coastal Piedmont leader and other Journals, newspapers

and magazines in twenty countries. I feel compelled to write to you

on a hot contemporary issue: the pending settlement of the federal

government's antitrust case against Microsoft.

I live in a university community. In the past ten years. I have

seen a technological explosion on campus that has revolutionized

learning processes and intellectual research. I have found the

technological advancements of the newspaper to be beneficial in my

work as a columnist. The technological advancements to which I refer

are in no small measure due to the entrepreneurial success of Bill

Gates and Microsoft. After all, Microsoft has developed products

that have aided the process of word processing immeassurably,

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as well as improved columnists" ability to transmit data.

I served as the Endowed Chair of the Landry-Fetterman School of

Business at Campbell University from 1980 until 1983. During my

tenure, I did my utmost to promote the notion that our societal

liberty is largely dependent upon the foundation of the free

enterpriss system. I fully realize that antitrust laws are needed in

order to foster a competitive marketplace, however if a

corporation's business practices do not result in harm to the

conssumer, the government should not interfere. I have seen no

evidence that Microsoft's business practices have harmed consumers

in any way. On the contrary, I believe that Microsoft has benefited

the American consumers greatly.

I urge Judge Kollar-Kotelly to approve the proposed settlement

of the lawsuit. It's time to allow the free market system to

determine the corporate winners and losers in our great land.

Sincerely,

Professor Eric Brodin

MTC-00029667

Steve Tyndall

PO Box 33358 Raleigh, NC 27636

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Fax: 202-616-9937

Dear Ms. Hesse:

The business of America is business, according to President

Woodrow Wilson. That statement has held true for the entire duration

of our nation's young life Whenever business is good, we say that

"times are good" in America. When business is off, we

say that we're going through a "tough time". ! regret to

say that I believe that tough times are currently upon us and our

economy needs for business to get back on track. In some areas, the

government can play an active role in restoring consumer confidence,

and strengthening investor resolve.

The stock market is in limbo. Investors are in a period of

uncertainty that began when the federal government announced that

Microsoft would be dissolved into a series of small companies. The

tech sector of the economy, which had been largely separated from

government, and looked to Microsoft for leadership, became a very

unstable place for investors and employees to be that day. We need

to recapture the magic of the 1990s economy by putting the Microsoft

lawsuit behind us once and for all.

The federal government and Microsoft are in agreement on the

terms of the settlement. All that remains is for Judge Kollar

Kotelly to approve the settlement. I hope and pray the settlement

will be approved. A renewed spirit of entrepreneurial innovation

will be started on that momentous occasion.

I am honored to live in the Unites States of America, a country

in which we have a fair and impartial judicial system. The trial has

run its course. The verdict is in. Both parties want to settle, in

order to save the American people and the American economy

irreparable harm. It's time to move forward.

I request that Judge Kollar Kotelly will approve the settlement.

Senior Tactical Management Specialist Planner John Deere Corporation

MTC-00029668

Scott Lampe

Former Treasurer, N.C. Republican Party

3707 Waterton Leas Court

Charlotte, NC 28269

January 21, 2002

Dent Ms. Hesse:

I believe that the United States of America has the highest

standard of living of any country in the world. I am certain that

our prosperity is a direct result of the free enterprise system that

enables our economy to flourish. I enjoy following current events,

end participating in the political process when I believe that my

participation is needed.

The federal government's lawsuit against Microsoft is a prime

example of an issue that has stirred my passions and evoked my

interest in the public good, From the outset of the lawsuit, I have

worried about the suit's impact on the American economy as a whole.

I noticed that the entire stock market began its slide at the point

which the federal government annoyed Microsoft's breakup.

Microsoft's, innovation has been beneficial for industrial and

educational institution across America. I strongly believe that the

government ought to be as supportive as possible of all companies

that are vital to American enterprise and American jobs. It's

important to families that their tax dollars be used to strengthen,

not weaken, the economy. That's why I believe that the proposed

settlement between Microsoft and the federal government is a

positive development for America. The settlement provides for like

access and monitoring of Microsoft. In essence, everybody wins...

business, industry, the government, and most importantly, the

American people.

I hope that Judge Kollar Kotelly will approve the settlement.

Thank you,

Scott Lampe

MTC-00029669

January 18, 2002.

Ms. Renata B. Hesse

Antitrust Division

U.S. Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530-0001

Dear Ms. Hesse:

I am encouraging you to accept the Microsoft settlement. It is

fair! For three years, I've been reading about the litigation,

lobbyists, lawyer's fees and millions of dollars in taxpayers monies

spent.

It's time to have less regulation in technology and to have more

competition in the market. As a consumer, I want affordable, high

quality products that Microsoft creates. This settlement will allow

the company to again focus on leading in technology rather than

fighting for survival in the face of litigation.

Thank you for considering my input as you deliberate this

decision.

Liberty Carty

620 S Highland Dr

Andover, KS 67002

Journalism major, Butler County Community College Member, Kansas

Republican State Committee President, Buffer County Republican

Assembly

MTC-00029670

Gerald R. Slifka

2028 Winston Place

Waterloo IA 50701

January 27, 2002

Renata Hesse Trial Attorney

Antitrust Division

U.S. Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Attorney Hesse:

I am writing to urge the court to accept the settlement proposal

of the Microsoft anti-trust case. As a consumer I have witnessed the

value of our constantly advancing technology on a daily basis. Like

most Americans I am at the same time thrilled and overwhelmed by the

new products that are available. These have gone along way toward

helping work and live more efficiently. I work in the printing

industry and can tell you first hand that technology has had a

significant impact on how this industry operates. The quality of our

work improved to a great extent while the product turnaround time

has been significantly reduced

We are living in a time of financial uncertainty in this

country. We must do whatever we can to regain stability in the stock

markets and the job market. Ending the government's case against one

of our leading companies will help lead our county to continued

prosperity.

Please accept the settlement before you.

Sincerely,

Gerald R. Slifka

MTC-00029671

January 16, 2002 Ms.

Renata Hesse, Antitrust Division

U.S. Department of Justice

601 D Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse,

I appreciate that my ideas as a livestock business owner can be

shared regarding the Microsoft antitrust ease.

It is important that the Federal Courts recognize the benefits

of competition in business and technology. The Anti-trust laws were

written over 100 years ago to protect consumers. In this day and

age, it seems, some of Microsoft's competitors want to use them as a

safe-guard from competition. A better use of the government's legal

power would be an examination of the vertical integration of

agricultural conglomerates.

I personally agree with settlement and hope that you will accept

it to bring closure to this litigation that is costing us so much in

time and tax dollars.

Sincerely,

Vernon Suhn, Owner

Suhn Cattle Company

RR2, Box 67

Eureka, Kansas 670445-9428

(620) .583-5923

MTC-00029672

January 22, 2002

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Judge Kolar Kottely

U.S. Department of Justice,

Antitrust Division

601 D Street, N. W., Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear judge Kottely:

As an educator, with 37 years of experience, I have followed the

Microsoft antitrust suit with much interest and would like to

express a major concern regarding the timely disposition of this

matter.

I believe the principle parties of this suit have come to a fair

settlement for all concerned. However, the nine remaining attorneys

general and the District of Columbia need to put aside their

individual grievances and settle in the interest of consumers as

well as the technology industry which so greatly affects the growth

of our economy. It disappoints me that the Attorney General of

Kansas is one of the parties who have resisted settlement.

I am encouraged that this settlement has the prospects of more

healthy competition in the software industry as well as the

increasing the availability of a variety of software to consumers. I

sincerely hope you will actively work toward approving the

settlement of this case as soon as possible.

Sincerely,

Kent Austin, Speech Pathologist/Audiologist

2520 Coronado Ct.

Emporia, Kansas 66801

MTC-00029673

Patricia Piester

12122 willow Lane, #1124

Overland Park, KS 66213

January 21, 2002

Judge Kolar Kottely

U.S. Department of Justice, Antitrust Division

Attention: Renata Hesse

601 D Street, NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Judge Kottely,

The Federal government has been pursuing its case against

Microsoft for 3 years and has spent $30 million of the hard-earned

taxpayer's dollars in an effort to protect the consumer against

Microsoft's perceived unfair business practices. The result has been

confusion and no clear answers.

The Court of Appeals effectively put an end to this case by

throwing out a break-up plan instituted by a lower court. This move

was clearly in the right direction. We should follow their lead by

putting an end to this case. Nothing good will come from dragging it

out any longer at an even greater cost to taxpayers and consumers.

Instead, we must see action now in order to spur the American

economic recovery we need, especially for our ailing technology

industry.

Please support the proposed settlement in this case.

Thank you for considering my opinion on this case.

Sincerely,

Patricia Piester

MTC-00029674

January 25, 2001

Renate Hesse

Antitrust Division,

Department of Justice

Fax (202) 616-9937

To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing to express my support for the Department of Justice

settlement in your case against Microsoft. I understand that you are

close to a settlement and have asked for public input about this

issue.

Our tax dollars are spread thin as well our governmental

resources. Enough time and money has been spent on this case to come

up with the current settlement. The settlement is impartial and the

punishment fits the wrong.

My concern at this time is "who" will actually

benefit from continuing this case against Microsoft, I believe it

will be Microsoft's competitors and not consumers. The current

settlement creates a stronger technology industry and consumers will

be the overall winners. The case against Microsoft stands as an

obstruction to progress. We are going through a war and economic

recession. Refusing to settle and extending the campaign against

Microsoft is technically out-of-date and just another reason for the

country slow down. It is time to get back to work.

Thank you for your time and your efforts to settle US v.

Microsoft as soon as possible.

Sincerely,

Jaye Stretesky

P.O. Box 2553

South Lake Tahoe, CA 96158

MTC-00029675

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney; Antitrust

U.S. Department of Justice

601 "D" Street NW

Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse:

It has come to my attention that the Department of Justice has

brokered a settlement with Microsoft that could end the government's

anti-trust case against this company. I am very supportive of this.

I live in Kansas where our own Attorney General Carla Stovall

has been. a leading advocate for the breaking up of Microsoft and

has refused to join. the settlement of this case. I am very

disappointed that the Attorney General who was elected to protect my

interests continues to pursue this case.

The basis for this suit has always been a mystery to me.

Microsoft creates great products that people want to purchase.

Because the company is in tune with American consumers and is very

innovated they have grown tremendously. This growth has benefited us

through lower prices, a growing technology industry and a previously

skyrocketing NASDAQ. If Attorney Generals like my own were really

interested in protecting the public good they would join this

settlement. Besides, it appears to me that those who sought to

punish Microsoft are getting much of what they want in this

agreement.

I urge you to accept this settlement.

Sincerely,

MTC-00029676

To: c/o Renata Hesse, Trial Attorney

Date: Sun Jan 27 21:39:18 CST 2002

Pages (including cover): 4

From: Rick Voland

Comments: Please oppose the proposed settlement in United States v.

Microsoft Corporation.

2120 University Ave., Apt. 210

Madison, WI 53705-2343

January 27, 2002

Renata Hesse, Trial Attorney

Suite 1200, Antitrust Division

Department of Justice

602 D Street NW

Washington, DC 20530

fax (202) 616-9937

Dear Renata Hesse,

Thank you for this opportunity to comment on the United States

v. Microsoft Corporation; Revised Proposed Final Judgement and

Competitive Impact Statement. I write as an advanced user. I am not

a programmer, but I rely on computers for my work and am very much

concerned about preserving diversity, choice, and quality in

computer software.

I am concerned about the power of Microsoft to coerce its

competition. Microsoft paid money to both Corel and Apple when each

company was desperate and Microsoft could control the terms. I am

also concerned that Microsoft forces computer manufacturers to

bundle Microsoft applications with the result that computer buyers

now assume that Microsoft applications are part of Windows and are

included at no cost. The settlement proposed by the Department of

Justice would not cover either of these situations even thougt1

riley are clear examples of the power of Microsoft to coerce its

competitors into less competitive postures.

In Apple Computer's 10K annual report for the fiscal year ended

Sepbember 30, 2000 is the statement of an agreement between Apple

Computer and Microsoft. "Microsoft purchased 150,000 shares of

Apple...preferred stock...for $150 million [p. 52]. Apple in turn

agreed to limit computer production, and thus competed less against

Microsoft.

In August 1997, the Company and Microsoft Corporation entered

into patent cross licensing and technology agreements. In addition,

for a period of five years from August 1997, and subject to certain

limitations related to the number of Macintosh computers sold by the

Company, Microsoft will make future versions of its Microsoft Office

and Internet Explorer products for the Mac OS. Although Microsoft

has announced its intention to do so, these agreements do not

require Microsoft to produce future versions of its products that

are optimized to run on Mac OS X. The Company will bundle the

Internet Explorer product with Mac OS system software releases and

make that product the default Internet browser for such Mac OS

releases. [p. 24, "SUPPORT FROM THIRDPARTY SOFTWARE

DEVELOPERS," emphasis added] The same document discusses Apple

Computer's continued dependence on CPU chips from Motorola

[INVENTORY AND SUPPLY, pp. 22-23]. Apple Computer's new

operating system, now known as Mac OS X, derives from Nextstep and

Openstep purchased with NEXT, Inc. Both Nextstep and Openstep run

well on CPU chips by Intel

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or Motorola. I am writing this letter on an Intel PC minting

Openstep 4.2. Even the bridging version between Openstep and Mac OS

X (a developer-only release known as Rhapsody) ran on both Intel and

Motorola CPU chips.

This cross-platform technology would have left Apple Computer

far more flexible and competitive as Motorola continues to have

manufacturing problems that leave Apple Computer with more marketing

problems (the megahertz gap) and a more hazy future. Motorola chips

currently cannot achieve the same clock speeds (megahertz) as CPU

chips from Intel, AMD, etc. Consumers often choose computers on the

basis of clock speeds, so they tend to discount Apple computers even

though the Motorola chips accomplish more work than Intel chips for

the same clock speed (the megahertz myth). Apple Computer has been

aware of this situation for several years.

The statement that Apple Computer agreed to limit its production

is not about Apple limiting its production of the Apple computers

using Motorola chips. Apple agreed at that time to stop development

of Mac OS X for Intel which would have been a far more serious

competitor to Microsoft. A consumer could buy an inexpensive PC and

replace the Windows operating system with Mac OS X for Intel. Mac OS

X is derived from Unix and is known for great stability. Also, Mac

OS X has special software development tools that would attract

developers because individuals could complete aggressively with far

larger software colt)orations. Mac OS X for Intel would have allowed

Apple Computer to move from selling hardware (Macintosh Computers)

and proceed to selling software only (Mac OS X) in the same way as

NEXT, Inc. moved from selling hardware and software to selling

software only. The investment by Microsoft in Apple was incidental.

Apple Computer's real concern was that Microsoft threatened to cease

development of Microsoft Office for Macintosh, leaving Apple

Computer without a strong word processor and office suite. In

return, Apple Computer agreed to make Microsoft Internet Explorer

the default web browser, instead of Netscape. Macintosh computers

don't use Windows, but they largely still depend on Microsoft

Office, and Microsoft maintains a hold. Microsoft played one rival

(Apple Computer) against Netscape, another rival.

In press release dated October 2, 2000, Corel, Inc. announced

that Microsoft agrees to buy 24 million shares of Corel preferred

stock at US $135 million. Corel now owns and develops WordPerfect, a

competitor to Microsoft Word. WordPerfect was once a dominant word

processor, but is now far in the minority. The DoJ Microsoft trial

included evidence that Microsoft shipped flawed versions of the

Windows 95 operating system to WordPerfect developers in order to

leave WordPerfect a flawed product that could not easily compete

with Microsoft Word. Also, Microsoft cultivates bundling agreements

where PC manufacturers include Microsoft Word and other components

of Microsoft Office with Windows computers so that consumers do not

even think of purchasing WordPerfect. Then, when they upgrade their

software, they continue to purchase Microsoft Word and do not

consider WordPerfect. This agreement with Corel, has Microsoft

offering .NET, a sort of networking server technology, to Corel. It

is interesting that Corel now offers all its graphics products in

versions optimized for the new Mac OS X, and advertises its

cooperation with Apple. At the same time, it has ceased development

of WordPerfect for Macintosh. WordPerfect for Linux exists and could

be easily ported to the new Unix-based Mac OS X. This agreement

between Microsoft and Corel looks like an agreement to dissuade

Corel from continuing to compete agressively with Microsoft Word.

Isn't perception an important part of this case?

Microsoft bundles many small applications with Windows that

leave fewer opportunities for third-party competitors. Windows now

includes image editing software that took away opportunties from

Kodak. Kodak negotiated some new opportunties. Kodak now offers

little support for Macintosh computers. The larger number of Windows

computers is not a true measure of the market here. A large

proportion of the images on the Internet were created with Macintosh

computers. The graphics and desktop publishing industries still rely

heavily on Macintosh computers, yet Kodak digital cameras offer far

less support for Macintosh computers than for Windows computers.

Microsoft is now offering very inexpensive versions of its

software to schools at prices far below even academic prices. Here

at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Microsoft Office is

available at $25-30 for a fully functional suite, and

Microsoft Windows 2000 at a similar price. In return, Microsoft

often pressures schools to replace their server software with

Microsoft products. These prices are attractive because they offer a

product students want at an attractive price, but they leave server

operators subject to pressures unrelated to product quality. Also,

end users may find themselves with fewer opportunties because

Microsoft server products do not interoperate well with non-

Microsoft products. Microsoft has a history of adopting Internet

standards and then releasing an "enhanced" version that

only works with Windows computers. By the way, the DoJ uses an

opensource product (OpenBSD) downloaded from Canada

(www.openbsd.org) for its most sensitive communications that require

the ultimate in security.

The proposed agreement (final judgement) between the US

Department of Justice and Microsoft does not provide protections for

Apple Computer or for developers of Linux and other opensource

software (e.g., FreeBSD) that would compete with Microsoft products.

Linux, FreeBSD, and Hewlett-Packard servers would face unfair

competition as I describe in the previous paragraph. The DoJ

proposal does not address these concerns. Please separate the

Microsoft operating system and application (e.g., Word) divisions.

Titus, I favor a breakup of Microsoft into at least two parts.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,

Rick Voland

MTC-00029677

MINDI COOK

4824 SW 98h Ter

Augusta KS 67010

January 21, 2002

Renata Hesse, Esq.

U.S. Department of Justice

Anti-trust Division

601 "D" Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse:

I was truly glad to learn that the court was conducting a

comment period during which I might write to express my views

regarding the lawsuit currently being waged against Microsoft. I

have been opposed to this lawsuit for quite some time for many

reasons, including its high cost to American taxpayers, its apparent

negative effect on the technological industry and general economy,

and its attempts to over-monitor the business activities of an

American company. If I could see that Microsoft was, in any way.

threatening our free marketplace and driving up consumer costs, I

might feel differently about the matter. But I see no indication

that Microsoft has hurt the tech industry in any way. It makes me

wonder who and what is really driving the campaign against Microsoft

and I resent having to pay for a lawsuit that most likely serves the

interests of Microsoft's competitors--not the American public.

We, the American people, need to have the court decide this

matter in a manner that truly serves our needs -not the needs of a

big business. In light of that fact, I ask the court to please

accept the settlement proposed by President Bush's team and end this

lawsuit as soon as possible.

Sincerely,

Mindi Cook

MTC-00029678

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2825 Ya??cy St. SW

Seattle, WA 98126

January 26, 2002

Attorney General John Ashcroft

US Department of Justice

950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Mr. Ashcroft,

I am writing you today to express my opinion in regards to the

US vs. Microsoft settlement. I support Microsoft in this dispute and

I believe this litigation is costly and will have adverse effects on

consumers. I support the settlement that was reached in November and

would like to see a permanent resolution to this dispute.

The settlement that was reached is reasonable and far more than

sufficient to deal with the issues of this lawsuit Under this

agreement, Microsoft must grant the same rights to all of the twenty

major computer makers who want to install Windows on their machines,

no matter how the companies configure the platform.

I think this witch hunt to try and make Microsoft the villain is

going to have a detrimental effect on the business climate for now

and the future. Please pick another battle .... like national

security.

We are facing a lagging economy presently. We must do all we can

to boost and stimulate our economy, Stifling Microsoft will not

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accomplish this. Letting them go back to Washington State to develop

more software will. Please support this settlement and allow

Microsoft to get back to business.

MTC-00029679

Renata B. Hesse, Trial Attorney

Suite 1200,

Antitrust Division

U.S. Department of Justice

601 D Street NW

Washington, DC 20530-0001

Via Fax @ 202-307-1545

The undersigned is opposed to the proposed settlement in the

Microsoft antitrust trial because the settlement does not fully

redress the actions committed by Microsoft, nor substantially

inhibit their ability to commit similar actions in the future, or

most importantly, attempt to restore competition to this important

market.

Furthermore, there are concerns regarding the fact that none of

the provisions within the settlement effectively address Microsoft's

abuse of its monopoly position in the operating system market. Even

non-educated, non-technical citizens can recognize the absurdity and

inequity of the requirement that consumers pay for a Microsoft OS on

a new PC--whether it is wanted or not--and yet this most

basic issue has never been addressed.

Perhaps most appalling is that the proposed settlement does

nothing to address Microsoft's previous misdeeds. Software piracy or

violations of the DMCA result in million of dollars in fines and

potential incarceration, yet no penalties are stipulated in this

settlement? it is equally disheartening that there are no provisions

to address future abuses instead the settlement, from a technical

perspective, appears to bolster Microsoft's expanding control of the

Internet and other related areas, Letting the US government publicly

reward criminal behavior simply makes a mockery of the law.

Microsoft's monopolistic practices cause the public to bear

increased costs and deny them products and innovation that would

otherwise be created because of competition. Consequently it is

incomprehensible that obvious cost free measures, such as a

requirement for the inclusion of Linux and dual-booting on all OEM

PC's, is not even considered.

The finding that Microsoft was (and is) an abusive monopoly must

be followed by specific, well-defined measures to address past

practices and compensate those harmed by the abuses, In addition,

substantial penalties and measurable sanctions are required to

prevent future monopolistic abuses. Based on past history, it is

even more crucial that strong constraints be placed on Microsoft to

mitigate their proven propensity for illegal and unethical

activities. The proposed settlement is clearly inadequate to serve

its function and calls into question the United State's Judicial

System's ability to appropriately perform its purpose. As such, it

is respectfully requested that the entire matter be reconsidered in

a public courtroom.

MTC-00029680

Elsie Zeurcher

1556 SW Santa Fe Lake Road

Towanda, KS 67144

January 24, 2002

Ms. Renata Hesse

Anti-trust Division

Department of Justice

601 "D" Street NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse:

I understand that the Department of Justice is currently

conducting a comment period during which members of the American

public may express their opinions regarding the Microsoft anti-trust

settlement proposed by the Bush administration. I am grateful to

have this opportunity to voice my thoughts and would like to thank

you in advance for your consideration of my views on this matter.

I firmly believe that the court should approve the settlement

which I understand Microsoft has already agreed to accept. At this

time in our nation, saving resources for homeland defense and taking

steps to strengthen our economy should be at the top of the

government's priority list. If the court agrees to the Microsoft

settlement, thus ending this expensive and troublesome lawsuit, it

will be appropriately addressing both of those pressing needs by:

(1) freeing up resources for defense and (2) allowing one of our

nation's most productive companies, Microsoft, to continue to

generate health activity in the marketplace.

Please consider carefully the realities that face the United

States today and approve the Microsoft anti-trust settlement. Thank

you again for your consideration.

Best regards,

Elsie Zeurcher

MTC-00029681

Jim Morrill

2220 Casement Road

Manhattan, KS 66502-6628

January 21, 2002

Renata Hesse, Esq.

Trial Attorney, Anti-trust Division

Department of Justice

601 "D" Street NW, Ste. 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse:

I would like to thank the court for inviting the views and

opinions of individual United States citizens regarding the

Microsoft anti-trust lawsuit and proposed settlement, it seems only

right that those of us on the front lines, paying taxes and

supporting the economy, should have a voice in this matter.

Free trade is a cornerstone of American capitalism and I believe

that the court has been attempting to protect our free trade through

its pursuit of Microsoft. However, in spite of all good intentions,

the court's efforts appear to have damaged free trade and enterprise

instead of protecting it. As a result of the court's actions,

Microsoft, one of our nation's most productive business giants, has

been forced to pour untold resources into defendin9 itself against

an ever-changing, never-ending lawsuit that has yet to establish

that the company has harmed the marketplace in any way. In fact, as

a result of Microsoft's commitment to improving technology, average

American consumers now have access to affordable computer products

that were out of reach to them only a decade ago. In the interest of

free trade, the court should allow such a company to continue to

generate products and business without undue interference.

Additionally, as the court makes its decision regarding the

Microsoft settlement. I ask that it consider the amount of taxpayer

money it will save by ending this expensive litigation. Too man.,,,

hard-earned dollars have already been thrown at this dubious case.

Acceptance of the proposed settlement will stop the bleeding and

save American citizens further needless cost. I ask the court to

make the decision that will truly protect free trade and best

benefit the American public. Accept the settlement and end the

Microsoft anti-trust case quickly.

Respectfully,

Jim Morrill

MTC-00029682

Logan Overman

632 Tara Court ?? Wichita ?? KS ?? 67206

Renata Hesse

Trial Attorney

US Department of Justice

601 D Street, N-W Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Attorney Hesse:

As an avid consumer of new technology products I am writing to

express to you my support for the settlement of the Microsoft anti-

trust lawsuit. There are many arguments why the case against

Microsoft was an ill-founded decision. However, I feel the economic

reasons are the most compelling.

The whole premise of the government's case has been that

Microsoft was responsible for significant consumer harm. It is quite

apparent this is not the case. Microsoft is the leading choice among

consumers because they find its products to be of superior quality.

Yet the government has spent millions of dollars prosecuting a case

that the public does not support. The cost to the taxpayer has been

staggering

The damage this case has caused to our nation's financial well-

being goes beyond the wasting of public funds. This case and the

government's threat of break-up have served as a deterrent to

investment in the computer and communications industry. There are

many contributing factors to the major decline of the NASDAQ,

however, the threat of serious government intervention in our

nation's fastest growing industry only added to the problem.

In an effort to end this case, DOJ and Microsoft negotiators

have found enough common ground to reach a settlement. Based on my

knowledge of the agreement this settlement is a solid one. Microsoft

will be held responsible for portions of the complaint upheld in

court and an independent commission will monitor its compliance with

the provisions of the settlement.

The settlement of this case is a good indication that companies

like Microsoft will be free to compete and grow in our open market.

Both our economy and consumers will benefit.

Sincerely,

Logan Overman

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MTC-00029683

Kristen Boulware

Renata Hesse, Antitrust Division

Public Comment

U.S. Department of Justice

601 D Street, NW, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Ms. Hesse,

Finally, Microsoft and the U.S. DOJ have agreed upon a

settlement of the marathon-style anti-trust suit against the

company. I think that having nine states sign on to the deal proves

its value.

From what I have read and heard about the proposed settlement

that is pending your approval, it goes a long way toward what the

DOJ wanted to accomplish, but does not completely tie Microsoft's

hands in a way that they cannot compete. To me this makes great

sense as a worthy compromise.

I am hopeful the judge will approve this settlement and allow

all the case's participants to go back to doing business as they

should.

Thank you.

Kristen Boulware

11780 West 118th Terrace

Overland Park, KS 66210

MTC-00029684

Ms. Renata Hesse

U.S. Department of Justice, Anti-trust

601 D Street Northwest, Suite 1200

Washington, DC 20530

Ms. Hesse:

I am writing to express my support for the Microsoft antitrust

settlement propsed by President Bush and his administration.

While I appreciate the Department of Justice's concerns

regarding the effects Microsoft creates in our marketplace, I

believe the facts all point to this conclusion: Microsoft is not a

threat to free trade. I believe the real threat in this matter lies

in the exorbitant cost of continuing to pursue Microsoft in court.

I ask the court to please approve the proposed Microsoft

settlement and put an end to this lawsuit.

404 Traders Ave

Fall River, KS 67047

MTC-00029685

Scalio, Inc.

Tel: (425)889-8553

Fax: (425)889-9303

6119 114th AVE NE

Kirkland, WA 98033

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Ramon G. Pantin

From: "Ramon G. Pantin"

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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:59 PM

Attach: commenls-040.html

Subject: Microsoft Settlement

Dear Department of Justice representative,

Attached is an HTML document with my comments about the

settlement proposed. I have included my background and contact

information in that document.

Please feel free to contact me at:

rgp @ scalio.com

or at home at:

425-889-1043

if you have trouble with the attached documents.

Sincerily,

Ramon G. Pantin

Introduction

My name is Ramon G. Pantin, I have been in involved in

commercial Operating System development since 1989. I have worked on

the design and implementation of a large variety of Operating

Systems and system software (operating system components) including

chronologically:

. IBM's AIX 3. I, AIX 3.2, AIX 4.1 and AIX 5.x UNIX operating

systems for their RS/6000 product line (recently renamed eServer

pSeries) as a consultant.

. Tandem's NonStop UX UNIX operating system for fault tolerant

systems (as an employee of Tandem Computers).

. IBM's now defunct WorkPlace OS desktop operating system

(successor to their OS/2 product) ) (as a consultant and later as an

employee).

. Microsoft's Windows NT4.0 and Windows 2000 (employed by

Microsoft).

. ICCOS (a now defunct operating system) (employed at TagoSoft,

Inc.)

. FreeBSD UNIX operating system (at TagoSoft, Inc and consulting

for Shawn Systems, Inc).

. SUN's Network Filesystem V3 for Windows NT (as a consultant)

. SUN's PC/SKIP product for Windows NT (as a consultan0

. Impactdata/Megadrive/Data Direct Networks CDNA shared storage

SAN file system (as a consultant and later as an employee)

. At Scalio, Inc developping storage management software for

both Windows 2000 and UNIX systems.

. IBM's AIX 5.x UNIX operating systems for their RS/6000 product

line (recently renamed eServer pSeries) as a consultant to Veritas

Software making changes to AIX as part of an IBM/Veritas

relationship.

I have also taught operating systems design classes at

Universidad Simon Bolivar (Venezuela) in 1989 and professional

system software classes, both for UNIX and Windows NT. I consider

myself eminently well versed as a software enginner with 12 years of

hands on operating system design and development.

The issues herein are of great importance to me and the industry

that I am a participant of. I appreciate the opportunity to comment

about the proposed settlement.

Below is a long list of comments. Each comment's name is of the

form "Comment X.Y" where X is the major section of the

proposed settlement within which the commented terms are discussed,

and Y is simply a sequential number of the comments that I have

written and it is actually independent of the acutal comment

numbering within the proposed settlement itself. Each comment

includes the appropriate reference to text in question within the

proposed settlement document.

I am available for comment and clarification in any and all

issues hereing, preferrably thorugh email, please contact me at:

Ramon G. Pantin

rgp @ scalio.com or at:

Ramon G. Pantin

6119 114th AVE NE

Kirkland WA 98033

Sincerily,

Ramon Pantin

January 26th, 2002

Comment III.1

Section III.A reads:

"A. Microsoft shall not retaliate against an OEM by

altering Microsoft's commercial relations with that OEM, or by

withholding newly introduced forms of non-monetary Consideration

(including but not limited to new versions of existing forms of non-

monetary Consideration) from that OEM, because it is known to

Microsoft that the OEM is or is contemplating:" There are 3

problems with this section:

1. It allows Microsoft to withhold existing forms of non-

monetary Consideration, because it only prevents witholding newly

introduced forms;

2. Monetary considerations are explicitly excluded, they

shouldn't be excluded.

3. Microsoft knowledge is irrelevant and hard to establish, that

text only contributes to the ambiguity of this section. Section

III.A should be not be constrained or qualified in these ways. It

should be replaced with this text:

A. Microsoft shall not retaliate against an OEM by altering

Microsoft's commercial relations with that OEM, or by withholding

any forms of Consideration from that OEM, because the OEM is or is

contemplating:" Comment III.2

Section III.A.I reads:

"1. developing, distributing, promoting, using, selling,

or licensing any software that competes with Microsoft Platform

Software or any product or service that distributes or promotes any

Non-Microsoft Middleware;"

There are 2 problems in this section:

1. Microsoft in the past has retaliated against OEMs that market

products that compete against Microsoft products, not just Microsoft

Platform Software. For example, Microsoft retaliated against IBM

when IBM decided to pro-install its SmartSuite product (a product

that competes directly with Microsoft Office) on its PCs, see

Findings of Fact, paragraph 122 which reads: "... Then, on

July 20, 1995, just three days after IBM announced its intention to

pro. install SmartSuite on its PCs, a Microsoft executive informed

his counterpart at the IBM PC Company that Microsoft was terminating

further negotiations with IBM for a license to Windows 95. Microsoft

also refused to release to the PC Company the Windows 95

"golden master" code. The PC Company needed the code for

its product planning and development, and IBM executives knew that

Microsoft had released it to IBM's OEM competitors on July 17

...."

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2. The words "any software that competes" allow for

retaliation against the development, distribution, promotion, use,

sell, or licensing of any technology that competes against Microsoft

technologies. Examples of such technologies, include but are not

limited to: technical standards, open or proprietary protocols,

services, hardware products, etc. Section III.A1 should be not be

constrained or qualified in these ways. The existing Section III.A.1

should be left as part of the text and a new paragraph should be

added to the list. Thus Section III.A.4 (a new paragraph) should be:

"4. developing, distributing, promoting, using, selling,

or licensing any technology or product that competes with any

Microsoft product, technology or service;" Comment III.3

Section III.A.2 reads:

"2. shipping a Personal Computer that (a) includes both a

Windows Operating System Product and a non-Microsoft Operating

System, or (b) will boot with more than one Operating System;

or" Microsoft currently forbids OEMs, or it imposes Market

Development Agreement penalities or it withholds Consideration from

OEMs when they offer for sell Personal Computers without a Microsoft

Operating System. Because of the earlier consent decree imposed on

Microsoft, instead of requiring that every Personal Computer include

a Microsoft Operatin System, Microsoft requires that for each model

of Personal Computer offered by the OEM that each Personal Computer

of that model be sold with a Microsoft Operating System. If this

isn't done, Market Development Agreement penalties or Considerations

are withheld from the OEM. Theoretically, the OEM is free to offer a

model of Personal Computers for which it expects to sell such a high

fraction of them without a Microsoft Operating System, that offering

them in that way doesn't cause harm or competitive disadvantage to

the OEM. In reality, node of the models of Personal Computers are

expected to sell in any large enough percentage without a Microsoft

Operating System, thus the OEM ends up paying for a Microsoft

Operating System for each Personal Computer for each model that it

offers, thus it is forced to always pay for a Microsoft Operating

System.

Microsoft, additionally requires that the end user of the

Personal Computer accept a license agreement, and the it indicates

that if the license agreement is not accepted, that the Microsoft

Operating System product should not be used and that the Personal

Computer manufacturer should be contacted for a refund.

Because of Microsoft per unit per model royalty imposition on

the OEM, the OEM has no incentive to provide such a refund to the

end user and these requests are largely ignored by the OEMs thus

resulting in end users that desire to purchase a Personal Computer

to pay for a software licesnse for a Microsoft Operating System,

even if they never use such a software. Given Microsoft's creativity

in constraining OEMs in their business decisions, a broad based term

should also be included. For example, Microsoft could

technologically constraint the GEM from supporting non-Microsoft

Operating Systems, for example by Microsoft imposing on the GEM

technological standards that must be used in the Personal Computer

design and because of intellectual property reasons the use of these

standards prevent non-Microsoft Operating Systems from functioning

on the Personal Computer (for example because Microsoft might have

patents on the technology).

Section III.A.2 should be augmented with these subclauses to

allow consumer to purchase Personal Computers without a Microsoft

Operating System:

"2. shipping a Personal Computer that (a) includes both a

Windows Operating System Product and a non-Microsoft Operating

System, or (b) will boot with more than one Operating System, or (c)

does not include any Operating System of any kind, or (d) includes a

Windows Operating System Product and provides for the removal of the

Windows Operating System Product during the startup of the Personal

Computer, as long as the Windows Operating System has not been used

by the consumer, and allows for a refund to be issued to the

comsumer for the price of the operating system, or (e) in any way

supports or provides non-Microsoft Operating Systems; or"

Comment III.4

Section III.A by virtue of enumerating the activities that the

GEM "is or is contemplating" allows Microsoft to

retaliate for any activities not explicitly enumerated in this list

(III.A.1, III.A.2, III.A.3, etc). A broad term should be added that

prevents Microsoft from any other cause for retaliation. Section

III.A.5 should be added (Section III.A.4 was proposed to be added

above in Comment III.2):

5. engaging in any lawful activity by any means by itself or in

cooperation with any party.

Comment III.5

Section III.A in the fith paragraph (the paragraph under

III.A.3) reads in its last two sentences: "Microsoft shall not

terminate a Covered OEM's license for a Windows Operating System

Product without having first given the Covered GEM written notice of

the reasons for the proposed termination and not less than thirty

days" opportunity to cure. Notwithstanding the foregoing,

Microsoft shall have no obligation to provide such a termination

notice and opportunity to cure to any Covered GEM that has received

two or more such notices during the term of its Windows Operating

System Product license."

There are three problems with these sentences:

The time period of thirty days for cure is extremely short and

would lead to unnecessary hardship on the OEM because of product

distribution considerations (channel, distribution, resellers) that

might require a constly product recall to be able to cure in thirty

days. A period of at least 90 days is more appropriate. It is

interesting to notice how terminating a Covered OEMs license and

thus putting the OEM immediately out of the Personal Computer

business is codified into this consent decree, when any restraint on

Microsoft's illegal monopolistic behaviour requires (so far) years

of litigation and continued complaints about how

"draconian" such measures are.

2. The non-obligation to provide a termination notice can be

used by Microsoft as a means of retaliation by not enforcing

contractual terms on some OEMs while enforcing them on others, thus

easily allowing for just two such notices to cure to be used as

retaliatory means. The number of notices should be a function of

time, for example 2 notices per year.

3. Microsoft should be required to enforce contractual terms in

a non-discriminatory way across all OEMs, it should not be allowed

to selectively enforce contractual terms because it would provide an

easy retaliatory tool against the OEMs. Additionally, Microsoft must

show that if it makes efforts to enforce certain terms, then it must

enforce all terms across all OEM with equal effort, dilligence and

strength.

4. The notion of termination notices, per se, is problematic,

because termination notices might not even correspond to actual OEM

behaviour but to misunderstanding between the parties or Microsoft's

desires for retaliation against the OEM. Any such termination notice

should be submitted to the Technical Committee for technical

consideration, the Microsoft Internal Compliance Officer, and to all

the Plaintiffs; together with detailed documentation of the non-

discriminatotry enforcement by Microsoft of these and any other

contractual terms across all Covered OEMs. This communication is

important because it ensures that the antitrues enforcement parties

are involved from the start when any such notice is given. Comment

III.6

Section III.A, last paragraph reads:

"Nothing in this provision shall prohibit Microsoft from

providing Consideration to any OEM with respect to any Microsoft

product or service where that Consideration is commensurate with the

absolute level or amount of that OEM's development, distribution,

promotion, or licensing of that Microsoft product or service."

These issues should be addressed:

1. Such Consideration should be offered to all Covered OEMs in a

non-discriminatory basis.

2. The Consideration should be objectively measured according to

established accounting practices.

3. The Technical Committee, the Microsoft Internal Compliance

Officer, and all Plaintiffs should be informed and provided a copy

of any and all such agreements and be allowed to requests additional

documentation and conduct interviews related to the agreement.

Comment III.7

Section III.B, first paragraph reads:

"B. Microsoft's provision of Windows Operating System

Products to Covered OEMs shall be pursuant to uniform license

agreements with uniform terms and conditions. Without limiting the

foregoing, Microsoft shall charge each Covered OEM the applicable

royalty for Windows Operating System Products as set forth on a

schedule, to be established by Microsoft and published on a web site

accessible to the Plaintiffs and all Covered OEMs, that provides for

uniform royalties for Windows Operating System Products, except

that:" Issues:

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1. In the first sentence, where it reads "... with uniform

terms and conditions." it should read:" .... with

uniform terms and conditions and Considerations."

Considerations established outside or after the license agreement

has been entered should be communicated to the OEMs in a uniform

manner. All agreements and Considerations should be provided to the

Technical Committe, the Microsoft Internal Compliance Officer, and

all Plaintiffs and these parties must be allowed to requests

additional documentation and conduct interviews related to the

agreements and Considerations.

2. Microsoft in the past has discriminated against OEMs and

other Personal Computer manufacturers (for example Apple) by

threatening to not make Microsoft products available on those

manufacturers computers, for example Microsoft Office cancellation

for Apple's Macintosh systems. Additionally, Microsoft has used the

OEM prices of these non-Operating System products as a means to

discriminate against OEMs. The prices and the offering of any

Microsoft product to any Covered OEM for bundling with a Personal

Computer should be nondiscriminatory and subject to uniform license

agreements.

3. Volume discounts of groups of Microsoft Operating System

Products and Microsoft non-Operating System Products should not be

allowed, because it might lead to exclusion from the market of

products that competed against the Microsoft non-Operating System

Products. For example, group discounts for a bundle of Microsoft

Windows XP and Microsoft Office; or Microsoft Windows XP and

Microsoft Word (or Microsoft Excell, etc); or Microsoft Windows XP

and Microsoft Works; must not be allowed.

Comment III.8

Section III.C reads:

"C. Microsoft shall not restrict by agreement any OEM

licensee from exercising any of the following options or

alternatives:"

This should read:

C. Microsoft shall not restrict by agreement or any other means

any OEM licensee from exercising any of the following options or

alternatives:

For example, Microsoft could, through verbal or written

communication, or through the quality of service that it provides

the OEM restrict the OEM, or threaten the OEM from exercising the

alternatives. Microsoft has in the past retaliated against OEMs,

particularly IBM and Gateway, as is described in detail in the

Findings of Fact through means other than agreements. For example by

witholding IBM participation in marketting programs, or threatening

Gateway with sofware audits.

Comment III.9

Section III.C.1 and others enumerate:

"icons, shortcuts, or menu entries" this list should

be: icons, shortcuts, folders, appliactions, explorer hierarchies or

menu entries

Comment III.10

Section III.C.1 ends in "with respect to non-Microsoft and

Microsoft products." This should be changed to read:

"with respect to non-Microsoft and Microsoft products or

technologies that offer similar types of functionality." For

example, the technology might be provided by a network service and

not by a product installed in the Personal Computer, how the

technology is provided should not be a reason for allowing Microsoft

to retaliate or discriminate.

Comment III.11

In general, section III.C.1 and throughout the document, it is

assumed that the only way to allow applications or software

facilities to be used is through "icons, shortcuts, or menu

entries", when in reality, applications/middleware can also be

activated by associating it with particular types of data, and when

such types of data are accessed, the application associated with it

is activated. For example, when a file with a given extension is

accessed, or when a URL is accessed over the interact, the type of

the data is determined and the application associated with that type

of data is activated. It is vital that such associations be allowed

in a non-discriminatory basis between Microsoft and non-Microsoft

technologies. For example, when a Internet audio URL is accessed,

the media player associated with the data type is invoked to cause

the audio to be decoded and played. It is not unsusual for multiple

competing technologies, such as Microsoft Media Player, Real

Networks and Apple's Quicktime media players to be capable of

supporting the same data types, thus the preservation of the setting

chosen by the user is important. Discrimination in this area has

occurred in the past against both Apple's Quicktime and Real

Network's Real Player. The document should be updated throughout to

take into account this form of application activation through data

type and file name extension associations.

Comment III.12

Section III.C.2 reads:

"2. Distributing or promoting Non-Microsoft Middleware by

installing and displaying on the desktop shortcuts of any size or

shape so long as such shortcuts do not impair the functionality of

the user interface."

The term shortcuts should be replaced with icons, because many

types of items can be shown on the desktop and these are not limited

to shortcuts. For example, applications, files, folders, etc.

Comment III.13

Section III.C.3 reads:

"3. Launching automatically, at the conclusion of the

initial boot sequence or subsequent boot sequences, or upon

connections to or disconnections from the Interact, any Non-

Microsoft Middleware if a Microsoft Middleware Product that provides

similar functionality would otherwise be launched automatically at

that time, provided that any such Non-Microsoft Middleware displays

on the desktop no user interface or a user interface of similar size

and shape to the user interface displayed by the corresponding

Microsoft Middleware Product." Issues:

1. The qualification: "if a Microsoft Middleware Product

that provides similar functionality would otherwise be launched

automatically at that time" is simply a form of restraint of

trade. Microsoft usually doesn't lead in innovation, it follows,

copies and bundles other's innovations into its products. It is

unreasonable to require that Microsoft launch some software at a

particular time to allow others to launch their software at that

time. Usually some third party or OEM will developped these concepts

and only later (much later sometimes) Microsoft will copy the

concepts and include them in their versions of such functionality.

The qualification should be removed.

2. The second qualification is also very unresonable, here

Microsoft again thinks that it can dictate or retrain through its

actions (or lack thereof the innovations of others. The

qualification reads: "provided that any such Non-Microsoft

Middleware displays on the desktop no user interface or a user

interface of similar size and shape to the user interface displayed

by the corresponding Microsoft Middleware Product." Again, it

is ludicrous that competing ISVs or OEMs be reatrained to only mimic

Microsoft's actions when usually innovation happens the other way

around. This qualification should be removed. Why should microsoft

care about the size of the user interface? If the OEM creates a user

interface that is too small, or narrow, or large, it doesn't cause

any harm to Microsoft, only to the OEM in user dissatisfaction and

support costs (none of which are Microsoft's concern given that it

doesn't bare any of those costs, and given Microsoft's treatment of

Hewlett Packard with respect to startup sequnce shells, it has shown

that it doesn't care about those OEM costs).

3. The qualification "if a Microsoft Middleware Product

that provides similar functionality" also allows for Microsoft

restraint of other's innovations, the definition of Microsoft

Middleware Product is particularly weak and full of escape clauses.

The qualification should not be present at all.

4. The time qualification and enumeration of the circumstances

and times under which launching can occur "at the conclusion

of the initial boot sequence or subsequent boot sequences, or upon

connections to or disconnections from the Internet" should

also be removed. There are many reasons why lounching might be

desireable at other times.

5. Launching of should not be restricted to "Non-Microsoft

Middleware", any software should be allowed to be launched.

Section III.C.3 should read:

3. Launching automatically, at the conclusion of the initial

boot sequence or subsequent boot sequences, or upon connections to

or disconnections from the Interact, or at any other time, any Non-

Microsoft software is allowed without this being subject to any

restraint from Microsoft. Mechanisms (APIs, Protocols, Facilities,

etc) present in a Microsoft Operating System that aids launching of

Microsoft software at particular times should be documented and

allowed to be accessed by non-Microsoft software without restraint.

It should be noted that the original Section III.C.3 precludes

the implementation of IAP sign up sequences, OEM shells, end user

tutorials that are desired to be lounched at the initial and

subsequent boot sequences. For example the OEM might present an IAP

sign up sequence until such a time when the user as made such a

selection or when the

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user as indicated that it doesn't want to asked again in subsequent

sign up sequences. The reason the Section III.C.3 precludes even the

implementation in the initial boot sequence is because Microsoft can

remove their own facilities from startup or from displaying a user

interface, thus forcing the OEM to remove their facilities. Freedom

of innovation and choice by the OEMs cannot be at the mercy of

Microsoft's actions. For example, Microsoft might move such

facilities to the second boot sequence and it might require that the

system reboot after an initial boot sequence process, the OEMs would

then not have the freedom to provide their facilities in the second

boot sequence.

Comment III.14

Section III.C.4 reads:

"4. Offering users the option of launching other Operating

Systems from the Basic Input/Output System or a non-Microsoft boot-

loader or similar program that launches prior to the start of the

Windows Operating System Product."

This section should be augmented in this way:

4. Offering users the option of (a) launching other Operating

Systems from the Basic Input/Output System; or (b) launching other

Operating Systems from a non-Microsoft boot-loader or similar

program that launches prior to the start of the Windows Operating

System Product.; or (c) choosing to make a non-Microsoft boot-loader

the default boot loader in the system; or (d) choosing to allow the

end user to interactively direct the Basic Input/Output System or a

non-Microsoft boot-loader or any other facility to remove a

Microsoft Windows Operating System and to provide the Personal

Computer owner to receive a refund for the cost of the Microsoft

Windows Operating System from the OEM; or (e) to select a default

Operating System that is a non-Microsoft Operating System, for

example by allowing the default Operating System to start without

user intervention after a timeout period; or (I3 any other form of

restraint that might cause an OEM to not preload non-Microsoft

Operating systems in theft Personal Computers (for example by having

the Microsoft Operating System corrupt the disk occupied used by

such non-Microsoft Operating Systems, or from denying supprt to OEMs

for such product configurations, etc)..

Given the nature of existing restraints by Microsoft in this

area, these additional clauses allow for less restraint by Microsoft

on the OEMs actions.

Comment III.15

Section III.D reads:

"D. Starting at the earlier of the release of Service Pack

1 for Windows XP or 12 months after the submission of this Final

Judgment to the Court, Microsoft shall disclose to ISVs, IHVs, IAPs,

ICPs, and OEMs, for the sole purpose of interoperating with a

Windows Operating System Product, via the Microsoft Developer

Network ("MSDN") or similar mechanisms, the APIs and

related Documentation that are used by Microsoft Middleware to

interoperate with a Windows Operating System Product. In the case of

a new major version of Microsoft Middleware, the disclosures

required by this Section III.D shall occur no later than the last

major beta test release of that Microsoft Middleware. In the case of

a new version of a Windows Operating System Product, the obligations

imposed by this Section III.D shall occur in a Timely Manner."

Issues:

1. The text "via the Microsoft Developer Network

("MSDN") or similar mechanisms" allows Microsoft

not to use the MSDN program which is broadly available and non-

discriminatory, and allows instead for Microsoft to extract other

agreements and conditions from the interested parties. The intent

should by "via the Microsoft Developer Network

("MSDN") or successor developer program (if the MSDN

program is discontinued or replaced by a new developer program, but

such a program should be equally broadly available and equally

nondiscriminatory as the MSDN program was on the earliest date the

proposed consent decree was filled with the Court by Microsoft and

the Plaintiffs)."

2. The text "APIs and related Documentation" should

be extended to include "APIs, related Documentation,

Protocols, File Formats, Data Formats, Certification/Validation

Component Signatures, and any other technological mechanism".

3. The text "that are used by Microsoft Middleware to

interoperate with a Windows Operating System Product ", given

the loose definition and the escape clauses that Microsoft can

invoke in that definition, and given that Microsoft also markets a

wide variety of non-Middleware software and hardware, the text

should be corrected to require full disclosure of the use by these

software and hardware products of Microsoft Operating System

facilities. The proposed text is shown below.

4. The requirement that disclosure only occur in the case of a

new major version of Microsoft Middleware allows Microsoft an easy

exit from their documentation requirements. Microsoft has stated in

fron of the District Court (Judge Jackson) that a sandwich would be

part of the Operating System if they so dictated, clearly Microsoft

cannot be trusted to name a release major or non-major, because to

Microsoft it would be whatever they desire at such a time.

Furthermore the mechanism of Major and first Minor point release

numbers is highly ambiguous and maleable, certain Microsoft products

don't even have a version number (Windows XP, Microsot .Net). In any

case, whether a product release is major or minor should not be an

excuse for non-diclosure, a small bug fix release wouldn't have many

changes on interface use, so its documentation requirements would be

proportional to the effort spent in the release development. If this

restriction is not removed, facilities would remain undocumented,

simply because Microsoft doesn't use them initially in their so

called major release but instead only uses them initially in a minor

release; or even more easily by making every release a minor

release. Microsoft has shown in the earlier Consent Decree entered

with the D.O.J. that it will take advantage in any ambiguity.

The new section should thus read:

D. Starting at the earlier of the release of Service Pack 1 for

Windows XP or 12 months after the submission of this Final Judgment

to the Court, Microsoft shall disclose to ISVs, IHVs, IAPs, ICPs,

and OEMs, for the sole purpose of interoperating with a Windows

Operating System Product, via the Microsoft Developer Network

("MSDN") or successor developer program (if the MSDN

program is discontinued or replaced by a new developer program, but

such a program should be equally broadly available and equally non-

discriminatory as the MSDN program was on the earliest date the

proposed consent decree was filled with the Court by Microsoft and

the Plaintiffs), the APIs, related Documentation, Protocols, File

Formats, Data Formats, Certification/Validation Component Signatures

(and Microsoft shall not restraint or deny such signature facilities

or enablements, and any other technological mechanism that are used

by Microsoft Middleware, Microsoft Application, Microsoft Hardware

Products, or by newly introduced Microsoft Operating System features

(that are similar to existing facilities available from third

parties in the market) to intemperate with a Windows Operating

System Product. In the case of a any new version of Microsoft

Middleware or Microsoft Operating Systems, or Microsoft Application,

the disclosures required by this Section III.D shall occur no later

than the last major beta test release of that Microsoft Middleware.

In the case of a new version of a Windows Operating System Product,

the obligations imposed by this Section III.D shall occur in a

Timely Manner.

Comment III.16

Section III.E should be augmented where it reads "on

reasonable and non-discriminatory tcrms" to read "on

reasonable, non-discriminatory and non-royalty bearing terms."

The imposition of per unit royalties as a condition to grant access

to any Communication Protocol would allow Microsoft to exclude

competitors from the market.

Comment III.17

Section III.E reads:

"E. Starting nine months after the submission of this

proposed Final Judgment to the Court, Microsoft shall make available

for use by third parties, for the sole purpose of interoperating

with a Windows Operating System Product, on reasonable and

nondiscriminatory terms (consistent with Section III.I), any

Communications Protocol that is, on or after the date this Final

Judgment is submitted to the Court, (i) implemented in a Windows

Operating System Product installed on a client computer, and (ii)

used to interoperate natively (i.e., without the addition of

software code to the client operating system product) with a

Microsoft server operating system product."

There are many issues with this section:

1. Communication Protocols can be used for communication between

two or more personal computers running a Windows Operating System

Product installed on client computers. For example a client computer

can share a disk drive so that its file are accessed to other client

computers, such functionality doesn't require a Microsoft server

operating system product. The ability to interoperate natively

should not be

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restricted to the Communication Protocols used to interoperate

natively with a Microsoft server operating system product, for

example a competing non-server client operating system might require

to implement these protocols to be competitive. For example, both

Apple's MacOS X client operating system and client versions of the

GNU/Linux operating systems contain incomplete implementations of

the file sharing protocols used by Windows Operating System ).

Section III.E shall apply equally to both client and server

operating systems to allow them interoperate natively with Windows

Operating System Products installed on client computers.

2. To circumvent the provisions in Section III.E Microsoft could

do this in future (major or minor) releases of its Personal Computer

Operating System Products: (a) do not include software that

implements future revisions of a Communications Protocol with the

Windows Operating System Product installed on a client computer; and

(b) request from the Microsoft server operating system product the

software that the client requies at first boot, each boot, or at

under other circumstances. Thus Microsoft would have circumvented

the requirements stated in Section III.E because there would be

"addition of software code to the client operating system

product" (which Section III.E.ii requires that it be

"without the addition of software code to the client operating

system product"). By Microsoft implementing a new protocol

(which it would not have trouble documenting to 3rd parties) that

the client computer's Windows Operating System Product would use to

request these addional software codes from a Microsoft server

operating system product the circumvention would have been achieved.

Thus by removing the existing components that implement existing

Communications Protocols all kinds of Communications Protocols would

thus be allowed to remain undocument in future releases of a Windows

Operating System Product by Microsoft, thus denying the purpose of

allowing native interoperability between other operating systems and

Windows Operating System Products. Microsoft, through privave key

signin and public key signature validation, Microsoft would be able

to sign these software components to ensure their origins

(Microsoft) and that they have not ben tampered, thus allowing every

Communications Protocols to remain undocumented, including security

protocols, filesystem protocols, transaction management protocols,

etc. The intent of Section III.E is good because it is pro-

competitive, but the actual terms easily allow Microsoft to

circumvent that intent. Software is very maleable, terms used to

describe it, such as: "without the addition of software

code" are easily circumvented, for example by slicing the

software and requiting thatthere be "addition of software

code", this can be done easily and transparently (i.e. without

knowledge by end user).

3. The word "implemented" is also used to describe

the software, and can lead to arguments or circumvention from

Microsof with respect to meaning.

4. The description of what is being made available is ambiguous.

Instead of "Microsoft shall make available .... any

Communications Protocol", it should be stated clearly what is

being made available. A description of what should be made available

is shown in the proposed revision to Section III.E below.

Section III.E should be replaced with:

E. Starting nine months after the submission of this proposed

Final Judgment to the Court, Microsoft shall make available for use

by third parties, for the sole purpose of interoperating with a

Windows Operating System Product, on reasonable (without an up front

fee and royalty free) and non-discriminatory terms (consistent with

Section III.I), technical implementations for any Communications

Protocol that is, on or after the date this Final Judgment is

submitted to the Court, utilized by a Windows Operating System

Product nstalled on a client computer to interoperate with (i) a

Microsoft server operating system product, or (ii) a Windows

Operating System Product. The means through which any such

Communications Protocol shall be made available shall include:

(a) a non-fee based and non-royalty based patent license to any

and all patents required by an implementation of fully featured,

high performance, and interoperable client or server operating

system product components that implement the Communication Protocols

in question. The patent license can be limited to be for the sole

purpose of interoperating with Windows Operating System Products

installed on a client computers; and

(b) a non-fee based and non-royalty based license to implement

the Communications Protocol in client and server operating system

product components that are fully featured, high performance, and

interoperable with Windows Operating System Products installed on a

client computers. The protocol license can be limited to be for the

sole purpose of interoperating with Windows Operating System

Products installed on a client computers; and

(c) a technical discussion forum (mail list, newsgroup or web

site) through which Microsoft will provide in a nondiscriminatory

basis non-fee based technical support to ISVs that require support

related to the Communications Protocol. Microsoft shall make its

best efforts to provide such technical support. Microsoft shall

provide subject to the Communication Protocol license the

Communications Protocol specifications which shall be:

(d) the precise and complete set of specifications of the

Communication Protocols (and their predecessors), such that based on

it a competent third party software developper would be capable of

implementing fully featured, high performance, and interoperable

operating system product components that implement the Communication

Protocols in question (without the need to perform any reverse

engineering of any kind); or In the abscence of such a precise and

complete set of specifications as described in Section III.E.a

(above), or at Microsoft's choosing or by direction of the

Technicall Committee, Microsoft shall provide instead:

(e) any and all specifications that Microsoft has of the

Communication Protocols (and their predecessors); and the complete

source code and build procedures of all the relevant client side

components and implementations (for each Microsoft Windows Operating

System Product) of the Communications Protocol in a form that these

components can be compiled (i.e. translated from source code form

into binary form) and linked (translated from object form into a

binary executable form) by the third party to produce the exact same

binaries of the native components in the Windows Operating System

Product that implement the Communication Protocols. The license

under which these component's source codes and build procedures

would be provided to the third party would be only for reference and

use only within the third parties premises for the sole purpose of

implementing fully featured, high performance, and interoperable

operating system product components that implement the

Communications Protocol in question. No redistribution rights of any

kind (in binary or source form) are required to be given to the

third party.

Additionally:

(f) Microsoft shall continuously and proactively provide updates

to the third party such that the third party can continue to

implement fully featured, high performance, and interoperable

operating system product components that implement the Communication

Protocols in question as the corresponding Microsoft Windows

Operating System Products implement new patents, versions or

features of the Communications Protocol. These updates should be

provided irrespective of how major or minor is the Microsoft Windows

Operating System Product update that makes use of the Communications

Protocol changes or patents. Microsoft shall provide these through

addendums:

(i) to the licenses described in Sections III.E.a and III.E.b to

cover new patents or protocol revisions or versions as appropriate;

and

(ii) the specifications and implementations described or

provided in Sections III.E.d and III.E.e as appropriate

Comment III.18

Section III.F.1.a reads:

"a. developing, using, distributing, promoting or

supporting any software that competes with Microsoft Platform

Software or any software that runs on any software that competes

with Microsoft Platform Software, or" Microsoft has shown that

it retaliates against OEMs when they support now-Microsoft software

in general, not just Microsoft Platform Software, for example the

retaliation against IBM because of IBM's intent to bundle SmartSuite

with their Personal Computers as can be seen in the Findings of

Fact.

Section III.F.1.a should be expanded to read:

a. developing, using, distributing, promoting or supporting any

software that competes with Microsoft Platform Software, Microsoft

Operating Systems, Microsoft Application Software, Microsoft

Hardware or any other Microsoft supported technologies or any

software that runs on any software

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that competes with Microsoft Platform Software, Microsoft Operatin

Systems, Microsoft Application Software, Microsoft Hardware or any

other Microsoft supported technologies; or

Comment III.19

Section III.F.2 reads:

"2. Microsoft shall not enter into any agreement relating

to a Windows Operating System Product that conditions the grant of

any Consideration on an ISV's refraining from developing, using,

distributing, or promoting any software that competes with Microsoft

Platform Software or any software that runs on any software that

competes with Microsoft Platform Software, except that Microsoft may

enter into agreements that place limitations on an ISV's

development, use, distribution or promotion of any such software if

those limitations are reasonably necessary to and of reasonable

scope and duration in relation to a bona fide contractual obligation

of the ISV to use, distribute or promote any Microsoft software or

to develop software for, or in conjunction with, Microsoft."

Issues:

1. Again, Microsoft retaliates against OEMs (IBM) to product

Microsoft products other than its Operating Systems.

2. Allowing Microsoft to enter into agreements that "place

any limitations on ISV's development, use, distribution or promotion

of any such software" is an open ended means under which

Microsoft can cause ISV's to act in manners that Microsoft desires.

For example, Microsoft might extend the MSDN agreements with limited

sublicensing of Microsoft patent pools and extract in exchange

agreements from all 1SVs in the market to limit their development,

use, distribution or promotion of any other software. The litigation

to ensure that those limitations are not "reasonably necessary

to and of reasonable scope" would probably take another 4

years of litigation. The Plaintiffs must remember that one of

Microsoft's options at any time is to relly on the ambiguities of

these terms and use them to realize their means, given that it has

been shown that Microsoft has monopoly power int he x86 compatible

Personal Computer market its retaliatory means must be reduced as

much as possible.

Section III.F.2 should read:

2. Microsoft shall not enter into any agreement relating to a

Windows Operating System Product, Microsoft Application Software,

Microsoft Hardware or any other Microsoft supported technologies,

that conditions the grant of any Consideration on an ISV's

refraining from developing, using, distributing, or promoting any

software that competes with Microsoft Platform Software, Microsoft

Operatin Systems, Microsoft Application Software, Microsoft Hardware

or any other Microsoft supported technologies or any software that

runs on any software that competes with Microsoft Platform Software.

Microsoft may not enter into any agreements that place limitations

on an ISV's development, use, distribution or promotion of any such

software for any reason.

Microsoft has more than enough resources to all the software

development that it requires, if it has to felly on outside parties

to do software development, it must do so without placing

limitations.

Comment III.20

Section III.G.1 reads:

"G. Microsoft shall not enter into any agreement with:

1. any IAP, ICP, ISV, IHV or OEM that grants Consideration on

the condition that such entity distributes, promotes, uses, or

supports, exclusively or in a fixed percentage, any Microsoft

Platform Software, except that Microsoft may enter into agreements

in which such an entity agrees to distribute, promote, use or

support Microsoft Platform Software in a fixed percentage whenever

Microsoft in good faith obtains a representation that it is

commercially practicable for the entity to provide equal or greater

distribution, promotion, use or support for software that competes

with Microsoft Platform Software, or"

These are the issues:

1. The text: "except that Microsoft may enter into

agreements in which such an entity agrees to distribute, promote,

use or support Microsoft Platform Software in a fixed percentage

whenever Microsoft in good faith obtains a representation that it is

commercially practicable for the entity to provide equal or greater

distribution, promotion, use or support for software that competes

with Microsoft Platform Software" allows Microsoft to extract

agreements from these parties under which at least, by assuring

itself of a 50% distribution, promotion or usage share it guarantees

that no competitors technology can be bradly available on a large

fraction of Personal Computers so that it can become a platform for

cross-platform software. For example by ensuring that 50% of new

Personal Computers don't include such software, Microsoft can ensure

that such software doesn't obtain critical mass as a platform.

2. These kinds of allowances, given Microsoft's behavior, only

serve to codify Microsoft's right to extinguish competition. It

codifies the right and means through which Microsoft can cut other

parties "air supply".

3. By restricting these terms to "Microsoft Platform

Software" it allows Microsoft to enter other kinds of

agreements in which the means to kill innovation and drive others

off the market is by developping non-Platform Software, for example

by developping Applications, giving them for free and forcing these

parties to distribute them at 50% usage share. The whole exception

should be removed and Section III.G.1 should read: G. Microsoft

shall not enter into any agreement with:

1. any IAP, ICP, ISV, IHV or OEM that grants Consideration on

the condition that such entity distributes, promotes, uses, or

supports, exclusively or in a fixed percentage, any Microsoft

Platform Software, Microsoft Operatin Systems, Microsoft Application

Software, Microsoft Hardware or any other Microsoft supported

technologies, or Furthermore, the agreement that Microsoft might

enter might require that the OEM doesn't distribute certain non-

Microsoft Sofware without actually requiring the distribution of

Microsoft technologies. Thus a new clause should be added, Section

III.G.3:

3. any IAP, ICP, ISV, IHV or OEM that grants Consideration on

the condition that such entity refrains in any way or percentage

from distributing, promoting, using, or supporting, any non-

Microsoft software or technologies

Comment III.21

Section III.G.2 reads:

"G. Microsoft shall not enter into any agreement with:

2. any LAP or ICP that grants placement on the desktop or

elsewhere in any Windows Operating System Product to that IAP or ICP

on the condition that the IAP or ICP refrain from distributing,

promoting or using any software that competes with Microsoft

Middleware." Again the restriction is too narrow with respect

to Microsoft's other means of distributing software, it should read:

2. any LAP or ICP that grants placement on the desktop or

elsewhere in any Windows Operating System Product to that IAP or ICP

on the condition that the IAP or ICP refrain from distributing,

promoting or using any software that competes with Microsoft

Middleware, Microsoft Platform Software, Microsoft Operatin Systems,

Microsoft Application Software, Microsoft Hardware or any other

Microsoft supported technologies

Comment III.22

Section III.G contains this, it is the second to last paragraph

in the section: "Nothing in this section shall prohibit

Microsoft from entering into (a) any bona fide joint venture or (b)

any joint development or joint services arrangement with any ISV,

IHV, IAP, ICP, or OEM for a new product, technology or service, or

any material value-add to an existing product, technology or

service, in which both Microsoft and the ISV, IHV, IAP, ICP, or OEM

contribute significant developer or other resources, that prohibits

such entity from competing with the object of the joint venture or

other arrangement for a reasonable period of time." Microsoft

should be allowed to enter into these arrangements, but it should be

allowed to require it to "prohibits such entity from competing

with the object of the joint venture or other arrangement for a

reasonable period of time.". Again, "reasonable period

of time" is ambiguous and open ended, and non-compete clauses

have no pro-competive role other than exclusionary when included in

agreements by a Monopolist such as Microsoft. Joint development or

joint services agreements should not be restricted in this manner.

If an actual separate entity is formed, a joint venture that

includes the incorporation or foundation of a separate independent

legal entity, the entity in question could have non-competition

restrictions placed on it, but not the shareholder companies

themselves (i.e. Microsoft and the other party).

Comment III.23

Section III.G, last paragraph, reads:

This Section does not apply to any agreements in which Microsoft

licenses intellectual property in from a third party. This

statement, is very ambiguous and unqualified. The meaning of

"Microsoft licenses intellectual property in from a third

party" could easily mean that Microsoft products that include

any third party intellectual propery are exempt from the

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section. Most Microsoft products contain third party software,

certainly its operating systems do (for example the Vcritas/Seagate

backup software and the Veritas Volume Manager included in both

Windows XP and Windows 2000; the BSD software included in Windows

2000 and Windows XP; the Mosaic sofware included in all version of

Internet Explorer; the Java software included in Windows 2000 and

Windows XP; the printing drivers and other device drivers from IHVs

included in Windows 2000 and Windows XP; the amount of software

licensed into these products is very large; etc). Additionally,

there can also be other forms of intellectual licenses that apply to

these and other products (for example licenses to use patents of

third parties). If the clause is intended to mean something

different from my interpretation, please explain what it is intended

to mean, and what terms in that sentence ensures that only that

meaning is allowed.

This sentence should be removed completely from this section.

Alternatively, a sentence that says:

Where terms in this section would cause a third party who has

licensed software or any other form of intellectual property to

Microsoft to have its license agreement violated then the specific

terms in this section that would cause such a license breach do not

apply. Unless the third party, at its own discrtion, chooses to

allow the specific violations under an agreement amendment.

Violation of the license agreement means violation to the detriment

of the interest of the third party and not violation to the

detriment of Microsoft's interests. Additionally, Microsoft should

proactively inform the Microsoft Internal Compliance Officer, the

Technical Committee, and the Plaintiffs about the circumstances in

question and provide, as priviledged communication and without

violating the interests of the third party, all information required

for their enforcement activities.

Comment III.24

Section III.H.2 (the first such section, there are two such

sections in Section III.H) reads:

"2. Allow end users (via a mechanism readily available

from the desktop or Start menu), OEMs (via standard OEM

preinstallation kits), and Non-Microsoft Middleware Products (via a

mechanism which may, at Microsoft's option, require confirmation

from the end user) to designate a Non-Microsoft Middleware Product

to be invoked in place of that Microsoft Middleware Product (or vice

versa) in any case where the Windows Operating System Product would

otherwise launch the Microsoft Middleware Product in a separate Top-

Level Window and display either (i) all of the user interface

elements or (ii) the Trademark of the Microsoft Middleware

Product."

These are the issues:

The text "require confirmation from the end user"

should include statements that ensure that Microsoft will not act in

a discriminatory or derrogatory manner in those confirmations. For

example, Microsoft should not be allowed to include as part of that

confirmation process: documentation, help, verbal communitation or

any other means discriminatory or derrogatory statements. Examples

of such statemetns are: "By choosing this option, Microsoft

voids the warranty of the product or disclaims its obligation to

provide support. Microsoft has not tested this third party option,

use at your own risk. Use of this option might cause data loss,

corruption, etc." Microsoft has included messages in their

products purposedly to cause third parties to not use non-Microsoft

technology. The Windows 3.0 betas included messages similar to these

when Windows realized that it was running on top of Digital

Research's DR-DOS Operating System (instead of running on top of

Microsoft's MS-DOS).

2. These statements: "launch the Microsoft Middleware

Product in a separate Top-Level Window and display either (i) all of

the user interface elements or (ii) the Trademark of the Microsoft

Middleware Product." allow for Microsoft to easily subvert the

intent by not Trademarking the Microsoft Middleware (while allowing

compound Trademarks suchs as "Windows (R) Stuff'), by only

showing all but one (1) of the user interface elements. The

restriction to a separate Top-Level Window means that by providing

it in a subwindow of an existing window on in a visually separate

top level window that is controlled by a Microsoft non-separate or

independent process, these escape clauses, again provide Microsoft

with a a myriad ways to escape the intent of the clause.

Additionally because of the software maleability the restriction to

only Microsot1 Middleware Products should not apply.

Section III.H.2 (the first such section, there are two such

sections in Section III.H) should read:

2. Allow end users (via a mechanism readily available from the

desktop or Start menu), OEMs (via standard OEM preinstallation

kits), and Non-Microsoft software and technologies (via a mechanism

which may, at Microsoft's option, require confirmation from the end

user in a non-discriminatory and non-derrogatory manner) to

designate a Non-Microsoft software or technologies to be invoked in

place of any Microsoft Middleware, Microsoft Application or any

Microsoft Operating System feature that existed in the market as a

third party product prior to Microsoft's incorpration of such a

feature into its Operating System (or vice versa) in any case where

the Windows Operating System Product would otherwise launch the

Microsoft Middleware Product, Microsoft Applications or any such

Microsoft Operating System.

Comment III.25

Section III.H.3 allows for "(b) seek such confirmation

from the end user for an automatic (as opposed to user-initiated)

alteration of the OEM's configuration until 14 days after the

initial boot up of a new Personal Computer". Such confirmation

must be sought through non-discriminatory and non-derrogatory means

(as outlined in Comment III.23). Additionally such confirmation from

the end user must allow the user to reject the continued request for

this confirmation by providing an easily visible checkbox that

indicates: "would you like to be asked this question again in

the future?" if the user doesn't want this question to be

asked in the future it selects the checkbox and the question is

never asked again (and the current settings remain unchanged).

Comment III.26

Section III.H.3.2 (the second such section, there are two such

sections in Section III.H) reads:

"2. that designated Non-Microsoft Middleware Product fails

to implement a reasonable technical requirement (e.g., a requirement

to be able to host a particular ActiveX control) that is necessary

for valid technical reasons to supply the end user with

functionality consistent with a Windows Operating System Product,

provided that the technical reasons are described in a reasonably

prompt manner to any ISV that requests them."

Issues:

1. The "designated Non-Microsoft Middleware Product"

term should be "designated Non-Microsoft software or

technology".

2. Requirements to host a paricular ActiveX control must require

that Microsoft proactively documents the interfaces of the

particular Active) control, and doesn't prevent through signature or

any other mechanism such hosting by the Non-Micorosft software or

technology.

3. The "provided that the technical reasons are described

in a reasonably prompt manner to any ISV that requests them"

text shold read "Microsoft must pro-actively and broadly

(through the MSDN program and web sites) describe the technical

reasons reasonable manner." Any such "valid technical

reasons" must be communicated to the Technical Committee, the

Microsoft Internal Compliance Officer and the Plaintiffs.

Section III.H.3.2 (the second such section, there are two such

sections in Section III.H) should read:

"2. that designated Non-Microsoft software or technology

fails to implement a reasonable technical requirement (e.g., a

requirement to be able to host a particular ActiveX control) that is

necessary for valid technical reasons to supply the end user with

functionality consistent with a Windows Operating System Product,

provided that the technical reasons and detailed and complete

technical documentation and mechanisms (component signatures) are

described in a reasonably prompt manner to all ISVs through the MSDN

program or its successor. Addionally the valid technical reasons and

any other information relevant to the reasons must be communicated

to the Technical Committee, the Microsoft Internal Compliance

Officer, the Plaintiffs and the ISVs in question."

Comment III.27

The last paragraph of Section III.H.3 reads:

"Microsoft's obligations under this Section III.H as to

any new Windows Operating System Product shall be determined based

on the Microsoft Middleware Products which exist seven months prior

to the last beta test version (i.e., the one immediately preceding

the first release candidate) of that Windows Operating System

Product." Issues:

1. Again this is tied to Microsoft Middleware Prodcuts, it

should be replaced by the broader term.

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2. When a technology "exists" can lead to ambiguity

given that Microsoft might dictate that technology doesn't exist

until it determines (at its sole discretion) that it exists. This

ambiguity is not required.

The last paragraph of Section III.H.3 should be removed

completely. Microsoft can introduce new Microsoft Middleware,

Microsoft Applications, Microsoft Technologies, Microsoft Hardware

at any arbitrary point in time after the release of an Operating

System product. In so far as those Microsoft technologies alter

user's preferences and default system settings, saving and restoring

those settings sould be supported through an Operating System

mechanism and user interface that allows for these settings to be

manipulated.

Comment III.28

The first paragraphs of Section III.I reads:

"I. Microsoft shall offer to license to ISVs, IHVs, IAPs,

ICPs, and OEMs any intellectual property rights owned or licensable

by Microsoft that are required to exercise any of the options or

alternatives expressly provided to them under this Final Judgment,

provided that" The text "shall offer to license"

requires that licensing be offered, it doesn't require that it

actually enter into such license agreements. The text should instead

read:

I. Microsoft shall offer to license, and shall make its best

effort to actually license, to ISVs, IHVs, IAPs, ICPs, and OEMs any

intellectual property rights owned or licensable by Microsoft that

are required to exercise any of the options or alternatives

expressly provided to them under this Final Judgment, provided that

Comment III.29

Section III.I.1 reads:

"1. all terms, including royalties or other payment of

monetary consideration, are reasonable and non-

discriminatory;" Allowing for per unit royalties or

prohibitive up front licensing fees might prevent Microsoft

competitors from actually being able to participate competitibly in

the relevant product markets. This Section III.I.1 should read

instead: "1. all terms, are reasonable and non-discriminatory.

Royalties or other payments of monetary consideration are explicitly

forbidden from the temps when the intellectual property is to be

used only for interoperation with a Microsoft Operating System

product." For example such a license would not require

royalties from a server Operating System to interoperate with a

Microsoft Operating System for Personal Computers, but if the server

Operating System makes use of the licensed intellectual property to

interoperate with non-Microsoft Operating Systems for Personal

Computers, then a royalty might be required by Microsoft.

Comment III.30

Section III.I.2 reads:

"2. the scope of any such license (and the intellectual

property rights licensed thereunder) need be no broader than is

necessary to ensure that an ISV, IHV, IAP, ICP or OEM is able to

exercise the options or alternatives expressly provided under this

Final Judgment (e.g., an ISV's, IHV's, IAP's, ICP's and OEM's option

to promote Non-Microsoft Middleware shall not confer any rights to

any Microsoft intellectual property rights infringed by that Non-

Microsoft Middleware);" XXX

Comment III.31

Section III.I.3 reads:

"an ISV's, IHV's, IAP's, ICP's, or OEM's rights may be

conditioned on its not assigning, transferring or sublicensing its

rights under any license granted under this provision;" Not

allowing the transferring or assignment of these parties rights

under certain circumstances, for example under an acquisition, is

inherently a form of discrimination. Given that the licenses are to

be offered in a non-discriminatory fashion, it is important that

such licenses once offered be available in the future and that the

licensing not be restricted to a given period of time. If subsequent

versions of technology become available, and new licenses are

developped for that technology, the older licenses to the earlier

technology should continue to be offered for the earlier verisions

of the technology.

Comment III.32

The paragraphs immediately after Section III.I.5 reads:

"Beyond the express terms of any license granted by Microsoft

pursuant to this section, this Final Judgment does not, directly or

by implication, estoppel or otherwise, confer any rights, licenses,

covenants or immunities with regard to any Microsoft intellectual

property to anyone."

Comment III.33

Section III.J.2.b reads:

"that the licensee:

(b) has a reasonable business need for the API, Documentation or

Communications Protocol for a planned or shipping product,"

Microsoft shall not unreasonably dispute the licensee's

assertions with respect to III.J.2.b, any individual member of the

Technical Committee through direct communication with the

prospective licensee can make a positive determination about the

III.J.2.b requirement and inform Microsoft about its determination

without any further Microsoft argument, dispute or delay about the

prospective licensee meeting the III.J.2.b requirement (Court

intervention shall not be required).

Section III.J.2.b should read:

(b) has a reasonable business need (as promptly and in a non-

discriminating manner determined by Microsoft or any one individual

member of the Technical Committee), for the API, Documentation or

Communications Protocol for a planned or shipping product

Comment III.33

Section III.J.2.b reads:

"that the licensee:

(c) meets reasonable, objective standards established by

Microsoft for certifying the authenticity and viability of its

business" It should instead read: (c) meets reasonable,

objective and non-discriminatory standards (proposed by Microsoft

and promptly approved by the Technical Committe in consultation with

the Plaintiffs) for certifying the authenticity and viability of its

business, the actual determination of the actual authenticity and

viability of the business can be made by Microsoft or any one member

of the Technical Committee after taking into consideration legal

consultation from the Technical Committee's legal staff

Comment III.34

Section J.2.d reads:

"that the licensee:

(d) agrees to submit, at its own expense, any computer program

using such APIs, Documentation or Communication Protocols to third-

party verification, approved by Microsoft, to test for and ensure

verification and compliance with Microsoft specifications for use of

the API or interface, which specifications shall be related to

proper operation and integrity of the systems and mechanisms

identified in this paragraph."

The issues are:

1. Should be at Microsoft's expense, not the licensee's.

2. Verification should hot be performed by "third-party

verification, approved by Microsoft" if such verification is

required by Microsoft it should be done under staff hired by the

Technical Committee and at Microsoft's expense and not through

unknown for profit relationships and agreements between a third

party and Microsoft. The intent of this section is for "proper

operation and integrity of the systems and mechanisms",

Microsoft should be satisfied with the Technical Committee staff

performing these duties unless its goals are other than those

expressed herein.

3. The text "to test for and ensure verification and

compliance with Microsoft specifications for use of the API or

interface, which specifications shall be related to proper operation

and integrity of the systems and mechanisms identified in this

paragraph" refers to to a "Microsoft specifications for

use of the API or interface", these specifications shall be

made available to the licensee

Section J.2.d should read:

(d) agrees to submit, at Microsoft's expense, any computer

program using such APIs, Documentation or Communication Protocols to

the Technical Committe for verification, to test for and ensure

verification and compliance with Microsoft specifications (which

Microsoft shall make available to the licensee) for use of the API

or interface, which specifications shall be related to proper

operation and integrity of the systems and mechanisms identified in

this paragraph.

Comment IV.1 Section IV.A.2.a reads:

"a. Access during normal office hours to inspect any and

all source code, books, ledgers, accounts, correspondence, memoranda

and other documents and records in the possession, custody, or

control of Microsoft, which may have counsel present, regarding any

matters contained in this Final Judgment."

This should be expanded to include electronic forms of

communication in electronic form, not printed form, because it is

extremely hard to sift through information, such as source code, in

non-electronic form.

Section IV.A.2.a should read:

a. Access during normal office hours to inspect any and all

source code, source code control systems, bug or defect databases,

design documents, build procedures, binary codes, books, ledgers,

electronic ledgers, electronic databases, accounts, correspondence,

memoranda, newsgroups, discussions forums, web sites and other

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documents and records in the possession, custody, or control of

Microsoft, which may have counsel present, regarding any matters

contained in this Final Judgment. Access to electronic forms of

information shall be provided in electronic form and not in only in

printed form.

Comment IV.2

Section IV.B.2 describes "The TC members shall be experts

in software design and programming." section IV.B.2.c reads:

"c. shall perform any other work for Microsoft or any

competitor of Microsoft for two years after the expiration of the

term of his or her service on the TC."

Given that Microsoft competes in almost every software market

conceivable, it is a strecth to request two years of non-compete

agreement from the TC member. Two such years of non-compete could be

provided only if Microsoft provides two such years of salary to the

TC member with a yearly inflationary bonus adjustment per year.

Comment IV.3

Section IV.B.8.iii reads:

"(iii) obtain reasonable access to any systems or

equipment to which Microsoft personnel have access;"

This should reads:

(iii) obtain reasonable access to any systems, services or

equipment to which Microsoft personnel have access; services should

include but not be limited to: authentication, file sharing,

discussion forums, newsgroups, chat channels, source code control

systems, bug/defect database systems, design management systems,

document repositories, web sites, etc.

Comment IV.4

Section IV.D.4.d reads:

"d. No work product, findings or recommendations by the TC

may be admitted in any enforcement proceeding before the Court for

any purpose, and no member of the TC shall testify by deposition, in

court or before any other tribunal regarding any matter related to

this Final Judgment."

This is one of the most egregious terms of the settlement. Given

that the Technical Committee has hardly any actual enforcement

duties, other than monitoring, and the Technical Committee actually

being an impartial participant in the actual history of Microsoft's

interaction with third parties and Microsoft's possible violations

of settlement terms, it is astonishing that this term mandates that

the actual work product of the Technical Committee not be admissible

as evidence of the settlement enforment activities.

Microsoft deifnitely over-reached by requesting this, this shows

Microsoft's true intentions (another 5 years without actual

enforcement plus maybe another 5 of further litigation), Microsoft

should be forced to accept instead the contrary of this term.

It is an interesting legal question if any documents related to

presummed antitrust violations are made the work product of the

Technical Committee, then by IV.D.4.d and those documents being

unadmissible, then what other documents could be used to initiate

Court proceedings by the plaintiffs without any such documents being

alleged by Microsoft as being derived from the TC's unadmissible

work. How could the plaintiffs promptly produce equivalent analysis

without it being under this gag order?

Section IV.D.4.d must read:

"d. All work product, findings or recommendations by the

TC must be admitted in any enforcement proceeding before the Court

for any purpose, and any member of the TC is herein explicitly

allowed to testify by deposition, in court or before any other

tribunal regarding any matter related to this Final Judgment."

If the Plaintiffs are not willing to mandate this rewritten

IV.D.4.d they are engaging in blatant dereliction of duty of the

antitrust enforcement offices and duties that they purport to serve.

Comment IV.5

Section IV.D.4.e reads:

"e. The TC may preserve the anonymity of any third party

complainant where it deems it appropriate to do so upon the request

of the Plaintiffs or the third party, or in its discretion."

It should read instead:

"e. The TC must preserve the anonymity of any third party

complainant upon the request of the Plaintiffs or the third party.

Where the TC deems it appropriate to do so, and it has not ben

requested, by the Plaintiffs or the third party, the TC in its own

discretion it may preserve the anonymity of any third party

complainant."

Comment V.1

Section V.A reads:

"A. Unless this Court grants an extension, this Final

Judgment will expire on the fifth anniversary of the date it is

entered by the Court."

The Final Judgement should last longer than five years. The

actual initial antritrust violations by Microsoft occured more than

five years ago and we are stiI1 without any form of remedy. The

legal system works very slowly. By entering this Final Judgement,

and Microsoft continuing its anticompetitive practices, it would

probably take more than five years to resolve those further

complaints. Given that the orignal D.O.J. vs Microsoft settlement

that related to per computer unit licensing was ambiguous enough

that it ended up being mostly ignored and full antritrust

proceedings were required, it wouldn't surprise me if this agreement

which is even more ambiguous and has many more loopholes means at

Microsoft's disposal to circumvent its intent would not result in

many more years of litigation without any real behaviour change on

Microsoft's part.

Mandating an expiration only after Microsoft no longer has

monopoly power in the market of Operating Systems for Personal

Computers for Intel x86 or x86 compatible systems is more

appropriate. Court proceedings or the under the parties agreement

and Court supervision would be required for the settlement to

expire, Otherwise a period longer than 5 years, at least 12 years

should be mandated.

It must be observed how durable has Microsoft's monopoly been

and that it was initially cemented through antitrust violations for

which a Final Judgement with no teeth got the industry into its

current state: 1.

Since the mid 80s it faced no competition. Through illegal

competitive behaviour, it foreclose the market to then Digital

Research's DR-DOS product (an atlernative to Microsoft's

MSDOS). Microsoft has recently settled a separate antitrus suit by

the current owner of the DRDOS assets (Caldera). These original

violations animated the first consent decreed between D.O.J. and

Microsoft 1995. That consent decree was determined to be ambiguous

by the appellate Court in its allowance of integration, and a full

antitrust lititgation ensued.

2. Even though Microsoft's technology significantly lagged

behind the technical abilities of the systems (for example it took

Microsoft 10 years to produce a quasi 32 bit operating system after

x86 Intel 32 bit capable operating systems became available in the

market) no other competitors could enter the market because

Microsoft moved from per-unit licenses to persystem licenses for

each model of system that the OEM manufactured (and this continued

to exclude other vendors from the market). 3. The one significant

threat that Microsoft has faced to its personal computer operating

system monopoly has been the advent of the Internet with open

standards and as a means for delivering applications from server

computers (either through Java or directly as web applications) or

through middleware based applications that could perform on

Microsoft Operating System based personal computers or personal

computers running other operating systems. This one threat has been

completely erradicated from the market. Microsoft will continue to

exclude Java as a viable Interact based application delivery

mechanisms, because this Final Judgement doesn't mandata the

allowance of interoperability of Sun's Java with Microsoft's

Internet Explorer (the Top Level Window definition is purposedly

design to make this impossible). Dereliction of duty now from the

Plaintiffs would mean that even under the most blatant violations of

antritrust laws and astonishing findings of fact, that Microsoft

would escape with a Final Judgement that is too short and very weak

from many perspectives. 12 years of enforcement seem the minimal

time for market conditions to actually have another opportunity to

arise and for actual market change to actually occur.

Comment V.2

Section V.B reads:

"B. In any enforcement proceeding in which the Court has

found that Microsoft has engaged in a pattern of willful and

systematic violations, the Plaintiffs may apply to the Court for a

one-time extension of this Final Judgment of up to two years,

together with such other relief as the Court may deem

appropriate."

The Plaintiffs in any enforcement proceeding shall not be

limited to only one extension of two years. If the Plaintiffs cannot

request as a remedy to future Microsoft's violations of this

settlement, then it is not clear if the Court can actually mandate a

remedy that is not being requested. Additionally, limiting the

length of the actual extension at this time and as part of this

settlement seems beyond belief given that any enforcement will

require the Court participation because there is no actual real

enforcement (other than monitoring by the Technical Committee with

its work

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product later bein unadmissible as court evidence and without the TC

members being allowed as witnesses).

Section V.B should read:

B. In any enforcement proceeding in which the Court has found

that Microsoft has engaged in a pattern of willful and systematic

violations, the Plaintiffs may apply to the Court for an extension

of this Final Judgment for up to ten years, together with such other

relief as the Court may deem appropriate, which is hereby agreed by

the parties that it is acceptable for it to be of any length as the

Court deems appropriate.

Comment VI.1

Definition VI.A reads;

"A. "Application Programming Interfaces

(APIs)" means the interfaces, including any associated

callback interfaces, that Microsoft Middleware running on a Windows

Operating System Product uses to call upon that Windows Operating

System Product in order to obtain any services from that Windows

Operating System Product."

Issues are:

API refers to the interfaces that are used not only by Microsoft

Middleware uses, but any other software uses. APIs are mostly used

by regular applications, narrowing the definition of APIs to what

Microsoft Middleware uses is a contorted way to allow even more

freedoms of circumvention to Microsoft. For example for Microsoft to

perform anti-competitive practices through undocumented interfaces

that its applications use, but that Microsoft's Middleware doesn't

use, thus excluding those APIs (by definition!) from being covered

by this settlement. Amazingly, this definition proposed to define

API to mean something other than Application Programmin Interface,

do you see the word application? It is not Middleware Programming

Interface! Simply amazing!

Definition VI.A should be replaced by the definition in the

Final Judgement entered by Judge Jackson (definition 7.b):

A. "Application Programming Interfaces (APIs)" means

the interfaces, service provider interfaces, and protocols that

enable a hardware device or an application, Middleware, or server

Operating System to obtain services from (or provide services in

response to requests from) Platform Software in a Personal Computer

and to use, benefit from, and rely on the resources, facilities, and

capabilities of such Platform Software.

If another definition is adopted, it should be explained why it

is different from the one proposed.

Comment VI.2

Definition VI.B reads:

"B. "Communications Protocol" means the set of

rules for information exchange to accomplish predefined tasks

between a Windows Operating System Product and a server operating

system product connected via a network, including, but not limited

to, a local area network, a wide area network or the Internet. These

rules govern the format, semantics, timing, sequencing, and error

control of messages exchanged over a network."

Issues:

1. Given that Communication Protocols relevant to this

settlement (given the proposed changes in other sections) also exist

between two personal computers, the definition should reflect that.

2. The set of tasks between the parties in a protocol doesn't

have to be predefined, there are protocols under which the parties

actually sent pieces of arbitrary code to each other to perform

actions that are arbitrary.

Definition VI.B should read:

"B. "Communications Protocol" means the set of

rules for information exchange to accomplish tasks between a Windows

Operating System Product and another operating system connected via

a network, including, but not limited to, a local area network, a

wide area network or the Internet. These rules govern the format,

semantics, timing, sequencing, and error control of messages

exchanged over a network."

Comment VI.3

Definition VI.J reads:

"J. "Microsoft Middleware" means software code

that

1. Microsoft distributes separately from a Windows Operating

System Product to update that Windows Operating System Product; 2.

is Trademarked;

3. provides the same or substantially similar functionality as a

Microsoft Middleware Product; and

4. includes at least the software code that controls most or all

of the user interface elements of that Microsoft Middleware.

Software code described as part of, and distributed separately

to update, a Microsoft Middleware Product shall not be deemed

Microsoft Middleware unless identified as a new major version of

that Microsoft Middleware Product. A major version shall be

identified by a whole number or by a number with just a single digit

to the right of the decimal point."

This is a very astonishing definition of Middleware, nowhere

does it talk about software that provides APIs to other software

components, which is core to any definition of Middleware. The

definition of Non-Microsoft Middleware (VI.M) does seem appropriate

to what Middleware is. Definition 7.q in Judge Jackson's Final

Judgement should be seen for a reasonable defintion of Middleware:

"'Middleware" means software that operates,

directly or through other software, between an Operating System and

another type of software (such as an application, a server Operating

System, or a database management system) by offering services via

APIs or Communications Interfaces to such other software, and could,

if ported to or interoperable with multiple Operating Systems,

enable software products written for that Middleware to be run on

multiple Operating System Products. Examples of Middleware within

the meaning of this Final Judgment include Internet browsers, e-mail

client software, multimedia viewing software, Office, and the Java

Virtual Machine. Examples of software that are not Middleware within

the meaning of this Final Judgment are disk compression and memory

management."

These notions in the VI.J "Microsoft Middleware"

definition are astonishing:

"2. is Trademarked;" other than to provide Microsoft

another escape clause, this term adds absolutely no value. With this

term as part of the definition, Microsoft can rename some component,

not use an earlier trademark name for it, and voila! it is no longer

Microsoft Middleware.

The notion of what Microsoft Middleware is certainly cannot be

tied to the version number given to it! Something is what it is

whatever the name used to refer to it. Something as arbitrary as a

version number and as easily maleable as a version number certainly

cannot be criteria to be used to determine what it is. Contract

writting 101 should certainly tech any lawyers about this. It is

interesting to pose these questions to the Plaintiffs:

What is the major version number of Office XP? What is the

version number of Internet Explorer. NET? What is the version number

of Outlook Express. NET? What is the version number of Windows XP,

Windows CE, Windows ME, Winodows 95 OSR2? Widonws 95? Microsoft

certainly can change interfaces, protocols, APIs, etc in a major,

minor, service pack, hot fix, or any other packaging of its

software. The names or version numbers of such software should not

be used to determine what is contained by them.

Both of these (VI.J.2 and VI.J last paragrpah) should be removed

from the definition. The term VI.J.4 seems to be there only for the

purpose of allowing Microsoft to slice and recombine its software in

such a way as to ensure that the user interface component be the one

called the "Microsoft Middleware" and not the components

that acutally perfrom the traditional Middleware functionality (see

Jacksons definition above) of providing APIs to other software. It

is very intereseting that Middleware is mostly not about user

interfaces but about providing interfaces to other applications,

applications that felly on the Middleware as a platform. Most

Midleware doesn't have a user interface, if it has one it is

incidental.

The term VI.J.4 should be removed.

After these adjustments, Defintion VI.J should just be:

J. "Microsoft Middleware" means software code that

1. Microsoft distributes separately from a Windows Operating

System Product to update that Windows Operating System Product; and

2. provides the same or substantially similar functionality as a

Microsoft Middleware Product; and

Comment VI.4

Definition VI.K reads:

"K. "Microsoft Middleware Product" means

1. the functionality provided by Interact Explorer, Microsoft's

Java Virtual Machine, Windows Media Player, Windows Messenger,

Outlook Express andtheir successors in a Windows Operating System

Product, and

2. for any functionality that is first licensed, distributed or

sold by Microsoft after the entry of this Final Judgment and that is

part of any Windows Operating System Product

a. Internet browsers, email client software, networked audio/

video client software, instant messaging software or

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b. functionality provided by Microsoft software that

i. is, or in the year preceding the commercial release of any

new Windows Operating System Product was, distributed separately by

Microsoft (or by an entity acquired by Microsoft) from a Windows

Operating System Product;

ii. is similar to the functionality provided by a Non-Microsoft

Middleware Product: and iii. is Trademarked.

Functionality that Microsoft describes or markets as being part

of a Microsoft Middleware Product (such as a service pack, upgrade,

or bug fix for Internet Explorer), or that is a version of a

Microsoft Middleware Product (such as Internet Explorer 5.5), shall

be considered to be part of that Microsoft Middleware

Product."

The first issue with this definition is, what is the connection

between VL.K.2 and the presumably subordinate VI.K.2.a and VI.K.2.b?

The sentence under VI.K.2 seems incomplete, it should end in

something like:

"* * * and that is part of any Windows Operating

System Product, and is either:" Other issues are:

1. Throughout the trial Microsoft and depositions (but not

before litigation was brought into action) would not budge on its

pretense incomprehension of what an Internet Browser is. They would

only talk about browsing technologies but would react stupified to

the notion of Integer Browsers, particularly their own, when they

were referred to as "the browser product." It is amusing

and without any sign of legal thouroughness that the Plaintiffs have

come to agree with Microsoft to a definition that uses the term

"Internet browser" without actually providing a

definition for such a term anywhere in the proposed Final Judgement.

Not even what a Internet Browser is being agreed amongst the parties

in the dereliction of duty that this document embodies.

2. Given that this section includes other disputed terms such as

Internet Explorer, it sould seem to be important to include precise

definitions about what these actual terms mean. Maybe when the

Plaintiffs try to do this together with Microsoft they will realize

that only contorted definitions such as the ones for API, Microsoft

Middleware, Microsoft Middleware Product, etc. are arrived at.

3. Again software can be or stop from being a Microsoft

Middleware Product depending on whether it is trademarked or not

(which to no ones surprise is another contorted and unnatural

definition by itself).

4. VI.K.2.b.i refers to "distributed separately by

Microsoft from a Windows Operating System Product", that term

should be precisely defined to mean what it seems to mean, because

Microsoft having argued in court that a sandwich is part of Windows

if they soley dictate so, then they surely would say that any code

"is distributed as part of a Windows Operating System"

even if the code is sent to the end user m a CD-ROM inside a

sandwich not included in the Windows box, or more complexily and

seriously, if it is sent to the user's system through a the Windows

update process.

5. VI.K.2 seems to require that the functionality be "part

of any Windows Operating System Product" but immediately and

sub-ordinated to that clause it also says VI.K.2.b.i

"distributed separately by Microsoft from a Windows Operating

System Product" which seems to contradict the pre-requisite

governing condition (it has to be both part of and not part of?.),

that would be by necessity the empty set, because something cannot

be both part of something and not part of something; thus redering

the whole contorted VI.K definition sense-less.

06. The final paragraph on VI.K states that:

"Functionality that Microsoft describes or markets as

being part of a Microsoft Middleware Product (such as a service

pack, upgrade, or bug fix for Internet Explorer), or that is a

version of a Microsoft Middleware Product (such as Internet Explorer

5.5), shall be considered to be part of that Microsoft Middleware

Product."

as some form of saving grace for the grotesquely constructed

prior definition. Obviously, since the litigation started, Microsoft

has described everything as part of Windows, so one should not wait

standing for Microsoft to ever again market anything in their

anticompetitive campaigns as not being part of Windows.

Definition VI.K should be replaced by:

"K. "Microsoft Middleware Product" means

1. the functionality provided by Internet Explorer, Microsoft's

Java Virtual Machine, Windows Media Player, Windows Messenger,

Outlook Express and their successors in a Windows Operating System

Product, and

2. any functionality that is first licensed, distributed or sold

by Microsoft before, on, or after the entry of this Final Judgment

and that is later made part of any Windows Operating System Product,

this shold include but not be limited to: Internet browsers, email

client software, networked audio/video client software, instant

messaging software; or

3. functionality provided by Microsoft software that

i. is, or at any time preceding the commercial release of any

new Windows Operating System Product was, distributed separately by

Microsoft (or by an entity acquired by Microsoft) from a Windows

Operating System Product; or

ii. is similar to the functionality provided by a Non-Microsoft

Middleware Product Functionality that Microsoft describes or markets

as being part of a Microsoft Middleware Product (such as a service

pack. upgrade, or bug fix for Interact Explorer), or that is a

version of a Microsoft Middleware Product (such as Internet Explorer

5.5), shall be considered to be part of that Microsoft Middleware

Product."

Additionally, reasonable definitions of what these mean should

be included

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