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Supreme Cuurt of the United States

OCTOBER TERM, 1973

No. 73-38

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

Appellant,

—V,——

MARINE BANCORPORATION, THE NATIONAL BANK OF

COMMERCE OF SEATTLE, WASHINGTON TRUST BANK,

JAMES E. SMITH, COMPTROLLER

OF THE CURRENCY

ON APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON

INDEX

Page

Docket Entries. 1

Complaint by the United States filed October 22, 1971 ......... 9

raed Answer to the Complaint filed November 22, *

Intervenor's Answer to the Complaint filed December 8, 1971. 24

Defendants’ Answers to Plaintiff'g Interrogatories :

No. 5(A)(2), (3) — 30

.. ³˙1w¹ 5 o·¹ꝗw- eta 44

I iach Äͤſ m 53

w h ¹-w-w- ecards ccs 60

77 ͥ̃ĩ³¹1TĩTm—TmTbC—C 0 cy 75

„„ phien es ceastsseieniaenncencacaetioeceanmsee extchcaabsenhir fas ecezciis 80

TO I crests sieecdessnccantinetecesecsees ctciceeen st. 84

. 87

— » ⁰ ] —⁰¹·¹ͥ²oäÄ˙ʃrĩ 89

a

ii INDEX

Page

Plaintiff's Answers to Intervenor’s Interrogatories (Set.

No. 1):

„... asec enecin scccscs aca: 91

T. Pp ͤͤ 0 7˙ w TA 91

( ·³·¹ cosa. 92

PPP 00õV f! 92

Deposition of Robert F. Buck taken August 16, 1972 93

Buck Deposition Exhibit 111i: 1514

Buck Deposition Exhibit ꝶ2 1516

Buck Deposition Exhibit . 1576

Buck Deposition Exhibit 4* — 1407

Buck Deposition Exhibit . 132

Buck Deposition Exhibit . 1358

Buck Deposition Exhibit 136

Deposition of Maxwell Carlson taken August 16, 1972 137

Carlson Deposition Exhibit 1... 152

Carlson Deposition Exhibit 2*.. ̃ 1273

Carlson Deposition Exhibit. 154

Deposition of Ralph J. Stowell taken August 16, 1972 157

Stowell Deposition Exhibit 1* 00 1432

Stowell Deposition Exhibit 2* 000 1433

Stowell Deposition Exhibit 3* 1393

Stowell Deposition Exhibit 44 1284

Deposition of Frank A. Abersfeller taken August 17, 1972. 195

Abersfeller Deposition Exhibit 1 0. 236

Abersfeller Deposition Exhibit 2"... 1391

Abersfeller Deposition Exhibit 3... 239

Abersfeller Deposition Exhibit 4... 240

Abersfeller Deposition Exhibit 3555. 1279

Deposition of Andrew Price, Jr. taken August 17, 1972 242

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-1* 0 1430

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-2* 00 ! 1429

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-3* 0 . 1428

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-4* 0 “ 1427

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-5* 0 -r 1426

Price Deposition Exhibit -W 13425

Price Deposition Exhibit 177777 1424

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-8* GR 1423

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-9* ß 1422

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-10* 1421

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-111171777ꝝ˖¶ :: 1420

* Deposition Exhibits which correspond to Government Exhibits

are reproduced in the category of Government Exhibits.

—

INDEX

Deposition of Andrew Price, Jr. taken August 17, 1972—Con-

tinued

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-12 . 1419

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-13* _.. 1418

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-144 1417

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-1 1416

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-16* 1415

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-17* 1414

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-18 — 327

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-19 * 1413

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-20 . 1412

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-21* . 1411

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-22* 0. 1410

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-23* 00 1409

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-24* 0 1406

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-25 — 1404

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-2% UwVſ — 1403

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-277 1402

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-2) 1401

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-29 . 1400

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-300 .! 1399

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-31iI1Ii1i1mwmT1mw ? 1398

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-32ꝛT:: “! 1397

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-33* 1396

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-344. 1395

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-35* 1393

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-36* 1394

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-3: ð 1392

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-3) 1391

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-39* 99 1389

Price Deposition Exhibit 1-40* 1390

Price Deposition Exhibit 2* 1433

Price Deposition Exhibit 3 —— 1432

Price Deposition Exhibit 44? 1593

Price Deposition Exhibit 55 . 1650

Price Deposition Exhibit 0) 1514

Price Deposition Exhibit 7ʒ777 1573

Price Deposition Exhibit; 329

Price Deposition Exhibit 9 — 1356

Price Deposition Exhibit 1000 1358

Price Deposition Exhibit 111144. 1357

Deposition of Dean W. Loney taken August 18, 1972 8 331

Loney Deposition Exhibit 112f . 1514

Loney Deposition Exhibit 2ùʒ 1573

Pretrial Order and attached Exhibits A through H, filed

January 8, 1978... 364

Deposition Exhibits which correspond to Government Exhibits

are reproduced in the category of Government Exhibits.

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EO

iv INDEX

Page

Transcript of proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 8, 1973:

Appearances 446

Transcript of the proceedings —— — 447

Testimony of Robert E. Smith

„ ——— —— 473

voir dire [57] 477

further direct [61] 479

Transcript of proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 9, 1973:

Appearances — 510

Testimony of Robert E. Smith (resumed)

—direct—[117] ä 511

—cross—[158] 533

—redirect—[183] . 849

Testimony of Warren P. Cooley

Se go ee [19 11Tz————.——————— 555

—CTOSS— [2091 564

Testimony of Michael Marston

direct [215114 ———————j —ͤ— —L—L—— 568

—cross—[264] 596

Transcript of proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 10, 1973:

TIE sie wis ei ees 602

Testimony of Charles F. Haywood

i et sy: | re 633

—cross—[378] 5 . 661

Testimony of Lloyd C. Billings

direct [42511 688

—CTOSS— [444444 699

Testimony of Maxwell Carlson

direct [459 708

Transcript of proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 11, 1973:

Appearance 720

Testimony of Joseph C. MacMurray

—direct—[485] — 724

—cross—[555] — 764

redirect [574] . — 776

INDEX v

N Page

Transcript of proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 11, 1973:—Continued

Testimony of Richard G. Bennett

—direct—[622] 804

—cross—([633] 810

—redirect——[645] 818

Transcript of proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 12, 1978:

Appearances 820

Testimony of Betty Bruckner

—direct—[654] 822

—cross—[656} 824

redirect [662] 828

Testimony of William F. Barrett

direct 663] 828

—cross—[672] 834

Testimony of Leroy Johnson

direct [6841 cccccceccececceseseeceveceeeceeeeeeseeceee 841

—cross—[687] 843

Testimony of Maxwell Carlson (resumed) ;

—direct—[692] 846.

—cross—[715] : 860

—redirect—[749] 881

Transcript of proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 15, 1973:

Appearances 883

Testimony of Raymond A. Hanson

—direct—[756] 884

—cross—[761] 887

—redirect—[773] 893

Testimony of Neil Degerstrom

—direct—[774] 894

—cross—[779] 897

Testimony of E.D. McCarthy

—direct—[780] 897

—cross—[785] 900

—redirect—[788] 902

Testimony of Arden Jacklin

—direct—[789] 903

—cross—[793] 905

—redirect—[797] — 908

Testimony of R. Neil Williams

—direct—[798] - 908

—cross—[802] 911

vi INDEX

Page

Transcript of proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 15, 1973:—Continued

Testimony of Leonard Maxey :

—direct—[B03] once . 912

—cross—[805] 913

—redirect—[807] 914

Testimony of Merton L. Howard

direct [808 13 915

—cross—[811] 917

Testimony of Philip H. Stanton

—direct—[814] 918

' —cross—[846] 937

—redirect—([861] 945

Testimony of T. Robert Faragher

direct [867] 948

—cross—[911] 974

Transcript of proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 16, 1973 :,

Appearances oon... ee eeeeeeeeeeeeeneee- . 1007

Testimony of H. Joe Selby

direct [969] — 1008

—cross—[979] — 1013

redirect [1018] 1036

Testimony of Nevins D. Baxter

direct [1031] — — 1043

—cross—[1066] — 1063

Testimony of Robert K. Hurni

direct [11321 .. 1102

Transcript of procedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 17, 1973:

Appearances . 1115

_ Transcript of the proceedings 1116

Government Exhibits:

GX A-l — 1148

GX A-2 1149

GX A-3 i.

GX A-4

GX A-5

GX A-6

GX A-7

GX AB

INDEX

viii INDEX N

5

38881888588 885 85888188885 7

INDEX

*

ix

Page

GX H-18 1333

GX H-l4 1336

GX H-15 1341

GX 1-1-4 1346

GX I- I — 1347

GX I-l< 1348

GX I-2 1349

GX I-33 1350

GX I-24 1353

GX I-4b 1854

GX I 4c 1855

GX Id 1856

GX ILA 1857

GX I-45 1858

GX I-6-a 1362

- GX I-6b 1363

GX I-7 1364

GX I-8-a 1365

GX I-8-b : 1366

GX I-9-a 1367

1368

1370

1871

1372

1878

1874

1375

1876

1877

1878

1379

1380

1381

1382

1883

1384

1885

1386

1387

1388

1389

1390

GX I-9-b

Gx I-10-a 4

GX I-10-

GX I-ll-a

GX I-11

GX I-ll<

GS Fb ——r—rð—iỹ! e ̃ ͤ—.—

GX I- 11e .

GX I-1l-f

GX-J-1 .

GX J-2

GX J-3 _

GX J-4

GX J-5 vhceeetaileoetiinnnscadsig sce

GX J-7

GX J-8 3

GX J-9

GX J. 10

GX J. 11

GX J. 12

GX J. 18

GX J-14

GX J-15 1891

GX J-16 1892

GX J-17 1393

GX J-18 1894

GX J-19 1395

GX J-20 1896

GX J-21 — 1897

GX J-22 1398

x INDEX

Page

GX J-23 1399

GX J-24 1400

GX J-25 . 1401

GX J-26 TTT 1402

GX J-27 — 1408

GX J-28 1404

GX J-29 1405

Gx J-30 1406

Gx J-31 1407

GX J-82 1408

GX J-33 1409

GX J-34 1410

GX J-35 1411

GX J-36 1412

GX J-37 1413

Gx J-38 1414

GX J-39 N 1418

Gx J-40 1416

GX J-41 1417

GX J-42 1418

GX J-43 1419

GX J-44 = 1420

GX J-45 1421

GX J-46 1422

GX J-47 1423

Ch De anna ———————r˖r+§V*˖»»c — 1424

GX J-49 1425

EI GID ü 1 : 1426

GX J-51 1427

GX J-52 1428

„.. cies’ 1429

GX J-54 1430

GX K 1 1431

GX K-2 1432

%%% —'1AWA V 1433

GX K-4 1435

GX K-5 1436

GX K-6 1438

GX K-7-a 1440

111117;⁵ͤ— 3 tisaedcesi es sinid 1441

GX KR7 e 1442

GX K-8 a . 1443

GX K-9 — 1444

GX K-10 1445

GX K-ll-a 1446

GX K-11 1447

..... Acaiass 1448

1100 ˙ A . — 1452

GX K-14 ase 1454

INDEX xi

Page

GX K-15 1455

GX K-16 1456

GX K-17 1457

GX K-18-a 1458.

GX K-18-b 1459

GX K-19 1460

GX K-20 1461

GX K-21 1462

GX K-22 1468

GX K-23 * 1464

GX K. 24 N 1465

GX K-25 W 1466

GX K-26-a 1467

GX K-26-b 1468

GX K-26-c 1469

GX K-26-d 1470

GX K-27-a 1471

GX K-27-b 1472

GX K-28 : 1478

GX K-29-a 1475

GX K-29-b . 1476

GX K-30-a 1478

GX K-80-b 1479

GX K-80- 1481

GX ki 1488

GX K-82 1484

GX K-33-a 1485

GX K-83-b 1488

GX K-338-c 1490

GX K-84-a 1491

GX K-34-b 1492

GX K-35 1493

GX K-36 ... — 1514

“GX K-37 ....... 1516

GX K-38 1518

GX K-39 1519

GX K-40 1520

GX K-41 1521

GX K-42-a 1522

GX K-42-b 1523

GX K-43-a 1524

GX K-43 db 1525

GX K-44 — 1526

GX K-45 1527

f A 1528

GX K-46-b 1529

GX K-47 1530

GX K-48-a 1532

INDEX

INDEX

Defense Exhibits:

C ²

DX 2

DX 3

xiv INDEX

DX 36

DX 37

DX 38

DX 39

DX 40

DX 41

DX 42

DX 43

DX 44

DX 45

DX 46

DX 47

DX 48

DX 49

DX 50

DX 51

DX 52

Intervenor’s Exhibits:

Exhibit L to Intervenor’s Exhibit 500

Exhibit (1) to Intervenor’s Exhibit 500

Transcript of Proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

Goodwin, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on January 31, 1973 at Tacoma,

Washington

Page

1

1

1845

1847

1849

1851

1852

1855

1856

1857

1858

1859

1861

1862

1863

1864

1865

1866

1867

1868

1870

1871

1873

1875

1877

1879

1881

1883

1891

1899

1900

1901

1902

1904

1905

1908

1911

1912

1913

1914

1915

1916

1918

1920

INDEX xv

Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law filed January 31,

1973 „% 1932

Transcript of Proceedings held before the Hon. William N.

in, United States District Judge for the Western

District of Washington, on February 22, 1973 at Las

Vegas, Nevada 1953

Notice of Appeal to the Supreme Court by the United States

dated March 30, 1973 ooo Ü 1970

Order of the Supreme Court noting probable jurisdiction,

dated October 15, 197. 1973

DOCKET ENTRIES

Date

10/22/71

10/22/71

10/29/71

117 3/71

11/21/71

12/ 8/71

12/ 8/71

12/ 8/71

12/10/71

12/10/71

1/ 6/72

1/17/72

2/ 3/72

2/ 3/72

2/28/72

2/29/72

3/18/72

Filed complaint.

Issued summons.

Filed Marshal's Return on summons, Wash. Trust

Bank.

Filed Appearance of Graham, McCord, Dunn,

Moen, Johnston & Rosenquist for all defendants.

Filed Defendants’ Answer.

Filed Motion of William B. Camp, Comptroller of

the Currency, to intervene as a party and Notice.

Filed Order granting motion of Comptroller to

intervene.

Filed Intervenor’s William B. Camp, Answer to

Plaintiff’s complaint.

Filed Defendants’ Notice anti-trust action.

Filed PRETRIAL ORDER. Counsel to report to

court March 31, 1972, 10:00 A.M. regarding

progress in preparation of trial with view to

estabishment of trial date.

Filed Interrogs. to Defts.

Filed Pltf's request for production of documents.

Filed Defts’ Interr. to Pltf. (First Group).

Filed Order for Protection of parties during dis-

covery proceedings—counsel advised by card.

Filed Pltf's request for production of documents

to Intervenor.

Filed Intervenor’s Interrogs. to Pltf. (Set #1).

Filed Certificate of service.

Filed Defendants’ Answers to Pltf's Interrogs. (2

Vol.) (Confidential—in vault in Drawer #10).

(1)

on

Date

3/15/72

6/ 2/72

8/ 2/72

8/15/72

8/15/72

8/17/72

8/17/72

8/18/72

8/21/72

8/21/72

9/ 5/72

9/ 7/72

Filed Proof of service of Answers to Pltf's

Interrogs.

Filed Pitf’s answer to Intervenor’s Interrogs., Set

#1.

Filed Pitf’s Answers to Defts’ Interrogs.

Filed Notice of Taking Depositions of Ralph J.

Stowell, Robert F. Buck, Maxwell Carlson,

Frank A. Abersfeller, Andrew Price, Jr., T.

Robert Faragher, Philip H. Stanton, W. E.

McLaughlin, and Dean W. Loney.

Filed Praecipe of 8 deposition subpoenas, in

blank—issued by Clerk, Seattle.

Filed Marshal’s Ret. on Dep of Subp: (W. D.

McLaughlin, Philip H. Stanton).

Filed Interrogatories to the Intervenor by plain-

tiff.

Filed U.S. Marshal’s return on Carlson, Stowell,

Buck, & Price, Jr.

Filed U.S. Marshal’s return on Subpoena to Dean

W. Loney.

Filed U.S. Marshal’s return on Faragher.

Filed U.S. Marshal’s return on Abersfeller.

Filed Praecipe for subp. (7) in blank—issued to

Mr. Stephan in Seattle.

Filed Notice of taking Depos. of Sea. 1st Nat Bk

& Pac. Nat Bk, Old Nat Bk of Spokane Ameri-

can Comm. Bank, Spokane and Farmers Mer-

chants Bank.

Filed Notice of taking Depo of Wm. W. Wither-

spoon, E. C. Underhill.

Filed Marshal’s Ret. on Dept. Subp. (Pac. Nat. Bk.

of Wash.).

J

Date

9/11/72" Filed Deposition of Andrew Price, Jr. on behalf

of Pltf.

9/18/72

9/13/72

9/18/72

9/25/72

9/27/72

10/ 6/72

10/18/72

10/80/72

Filed Deposition of Frank A. Abersfeller on be-

half of Pltf.

Filed Deposition of Ralph J. Stowell on behalf of

Pltf.

Filed Deposition of Robert Faragher on behalf of

Ptlf.

Filed Deposition of W. D. McLaughlin on behalf

of Pltf.

Filed Deposition of Maxwell Carlson on behalf

of Pltf.

Filed Deposition of Philip H. Stanton on behalf

of Pltf.

Filed Deposition of Dean W. Loney on behalf of

Pltf.

Filed Deposition of Robert F. Buck on behalf of

Pltf.

Filed Deposition of W. W. Witherspoon.

Filed Marshal's Ret. on Subp. (William W. Wither-

spoon, First Nat’l Bk of Spokane, American

Commercial Bank, Old National Bank).

SET FOR TRIAL MONDA Y, JANUARY 8, 1973

at 9:30—ALL NOTIFIED.

Filed Notice of taking Deposition of William M.

Crozier.

Filed Pltf's request for production of documents

(2nd).

Filed Deposition of E. C. Underhill on behalf of

Pltf.

Filed Praecipe for 45 subp. in blank — issued by

Clerk, Seattle.

Filed INTERVENOR’S ANSWERS TO PLAIN-

TIFFS’ INTERROGATORIES.

...

Date

10/30/72

117 2/72

117 2/72

117 2/72

11/16/72

11/16/72

11/16/72

11/22/72

11/27/72

12/ 4/72

12/ 7/72

12/ 7/72

12/ 7/72

12/ 8/72

Filed Certificate of Service by Mail.

Filed Intervenor’s request to plaintiff for the

production of documents.

Filed Interrogatories to Plaintiff (Set No. 2).

Filed Certificate of Service.

Filed Defendants’ pretrial statement.

Filed Defendants’ memorandum on objections to

plaintiffs’ pretrial statement.

Filed Certificate of Service.

Filed Pltf’s Motion for Order to compel Inter-

venor to produce documents.

Filed Notice of hearing motion on Friday, 12/1/72.

Filed Certificate of compliance.

Filed Intervenor’s pretrial Statement.

Filed Certificate of service of Statement.

Filed Amended Notice of Motion for FRIDAY,

DECEMBER 8, 1972 at 9:30 A.M.

Filed Intervenor’s Memorandum In Opposition to

Plaintiff’s Motion to Compel Discovery. Exhibits

Enclosed.

Filed Certificate of Service of Intervenor’s Mem-

orandum.

Filed Pitf’s Answers to Intervenor’s 2nd set of

Interrogs.

Ent. record hear. Pltf's Motion for Order to com-

pel Intervenor to produce documents had. Mr.

Torre, Mr. Revere, Mr. McClellan & Mr. Hop-

kins admitted for this case. Mr. Torre moves

that if motion not granted, Court review re-

quested documents in Camera. Matter under

advisement.

Date

12/11/72

12/12/72

12/20/72

12/29/72

12/29/72

12/29/72

12/29/72

12/29/72

17 4/78

1/ 6/73

17 8/78

17 8/78

17 8/73

17 9/73

1/10/78

1/11/78

1/12/78

1/15/78

Filed Plaintiff's Request for Admissions.

Filed & Ent. Order denying Motion of Pltf. to pro-

duce material. Copy to Counsel.

Filed amendment to Pltf's Answers to Defts’

Interrogs.

Filed Praecipe to issue Civil Subpoena to Mr.

Joseph C. Me Murray —Issued to U.S. Marshal.

Filed Motion for Order Shortening time within

which pltf. is required to respond to deft's re-

quest for admission.

Filed Notice of Motion Noted for FRIDAY, JAN-

DART 5, 1973 at 9:30 A.M.

Filed Deft’s Pretrial Memorandum of points &

authorities. .

Filed Deft’s request for admission.

Filed Pltf's Pre- trial Statement. Copy to Court.

Filed Pltf's Pretrial Brief. Copy to Court.

Filed Pltf's Response to Defts’ Request for ad-

mission. Copy to Court.

Filed Intervenor’s Pretrial Memorandum.

Filed Certificate of service by mail of Memoran-

dum.

Filed Praecipe to issue four subpoenas in blank.

ISSUED 1-8-73.

Ent. record trial commenced to Court.

Ent. record trial resumed.

Ent. record trial resumed.

Ent. record trial resumed.

Ent. record trial resumed.

Filed Marshal's return of Subpoena (Joseph C.

McMurray).

Date

1/15/78

1/15/78

1/16/73

1/17/78

1731/73

2/12/78

Filed Praecipe for subp. (Robert Hurni).

Filed Ret. on Subp. (Hurni).

Ent. record trial resumed.

Ent. record trial resumed.

Ent. record trial resumed. Court finds for Deft.

& Intervenor. Formal Findings Concl. & Jdmt

to be filed. Mot. to dissolve Injunct. heard. Court

grants 30 day stay of dissolution of Injunct.

Filed Defts’ Notice of Presentation of Findings of

Fact and Conclusions of Law and Judgment and

Decree on 1/31/78 at 9:30 a.m.

Lodged Intervenor’s proposed Findings of Fact

and Concl. of law.

Hearng had on Findings, Concl. & Jdmt. Objns

thereto argued by Pitf.

Filed & Ent. Findings of Fact and Concl. of law.

Filed & Ent Jdmt and Decree: That consumma-

tion of proposed merger of Washington Trust

Bank into National Bank of Commerce of Seattle

does not violate Sec. 7 of Clayton Act; Order

enjoining sd merger denied with prejudice;

automatic injunct. imposed by filing Action is

dissolved, effective 30 days after entry of Jdmt

and Decree; Jdmt in favor of Defts. and Inter-

venor for costs hereafter to be taxed; Action dis-

missed with prejudice.

Filed Notice of presentation of Defts’ Cost Bill.

Filed Defts’ Cost Bill in amt of $5817.92. Clerk

directed NOT to tax costs until results of Appeal

are concluded.

Exhibits on file in Tacoma Office.

Filed Plaintiff's motion for additional findings,

Memorandum and Notice of motion; March 9,

1978.

3/14/73

Filed defendants’ memorandum in opposition to

plaintiff's motion for additional findings.

Filed Intervenor’s memorandum in opposition to

motion for additional findings, & Cert of Service.

Filed and ent order denying plaintiff's motion for

additional findings and extending stay to March

15, 1973.

Filed Stipulation and Order staying merger until

Mar 24, 1973.

Filed Order Extending Stay to April 6, 1973 at

6:00 p. m.

Filed USA's notice of appeal.

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MARINE BANCORPORA

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OF SEATTLE; and

WASHINGTON TRUST BANK,

Defendants.

COMPLAINT

The United States of America, plaintiff, by its attorneys,

acting under the direction of the Attorney General of the United

States, brings this civil action to obtain equitable relief

against the above-named defendants, and complains and alleges as

follows:

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JURISDICTION AND VENUE

1. This complaint is filed and this action is instituted

under Section 15 of the Act of Congress of October 15, 1914,

e. 323, 38 Stat. 736, as amended (15 U.S.C. $ 25), commonly known

as the Clayton Act, in order to prevent and restrain violation

by the defendants, as hereinafter alleged, of Section 7 of the

Clayton Act, 38 Stat. 731, as amended (15 U.S.C. § 18). ö

2. Marine Bancorporation and The National Bank of Commerce

of Seattle have their principal places of business, transact

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3. Marine Bancorporation (hereinafter referred to as

“Marine") is wade a defendant herein. Marine is 4 corporation

organized under the laws of the State of Washington which owns

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all of the capital stock of The National Bank of Commerce of

Seattle except for the qualifying shares owned by the bank's

directors. Marine maintains its principal place of business in

Seattle, King County, Washington.

4. The National Bank of Commerce of Seattle (hereinafter

referred to as "NBC") is made a defendant herein. NBC is a bank-

ing association organized under the laws of the United States of

America and maintains its principal place of business in Seattle,

King County, Washington.

5. Washington Trust Bank (hereinafter referred to as rs“)

is made a defendant herein. WTB is a banking association organized

under the laws of the State of Washington and maintains its

principal place of business in Spokane, Spokane County, Washington.

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TRADE AND COMMERCE

6. Commercial banks fill an essential and unique role in

the nation's economy. Their principal functions are the accept-

ance of deposits for safekeepihg and convenience in making payments

by check, the grant ing of loans or advances of funds to individuals

and business firms, and the creation through demand deposits of

net additions to the supply of money. Most money payments in the

United States are made through checks drawn against demand deposits,

and the creation and holding of such deposits is a function

peculiar to commercial banks and one which makes them to a great

extent the administrators of the nation's check payment system.

Through the making of loans to individuals and businesses,

Commercial banks supply a significant part of the credit require-

ments of the nation's economy. Commercial banks also accept time

deposits from various types of depositors and provide a wide

variety of other financial services, including personal and

corporate trust accounts, the collection of drafts, bills and

other commercial instruments, the acceptance of bills of exchange,

the issuance of letters of credit, the sale of cashier's checks

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and drafts on correspondent banks, the purchase or sale of

securities for customers, the sale of foreign exchange, and the

renting of safety deposit boxes. This combination of services

is unduplicated by other financial institutions.

7. Customers of Marine's subsidiary bank, NBC, and of WTB

have regularly utilized interstate communications, including the

mails, telephone and telegraph, to carry on their business with,

apply for and obtain the services provided by these banks.

Marine's subsidiary, NBC, and WTB have regularly utilized inter-

state communications, including the mails, telephone and telegraph,

to conduct business with customers and with other banks located

in states other than Washington. Marine, NBC and WTB are engaged |

in interstate commerce.

8. NBC is the second largest commercial bank in Washington.

It operates more than 100 banking offices in the state, including

29 in Seattle, as well as two in Spokane County outside of the

Spokane metropolitan area, and it has offices in most of the

counties of eastern Washington. On December 31, 1970, NBC had

total assets of about 81.3 billion, total deposits of about $1.1

billion (including IPC demand deposits of about 8393.2 million)

and total loans and discounts of about $656 million.

9. WTB is the eighth largest commercial bank based in

Washington, and the second largest bank headquartered in that

part of the State of Washington which lies east of the Cascade

Mountains. It operates a total of eight banking offices, all in

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the Spokane metropolitan area. On December 31, 1970, WTB had total |

assets of about $102.6 million, total deposits of about $87.3

million (including IPC demand deposits of about $37.7 million) and

total loans and discounts of about $53.2 million.

10. Commercial banking in the State of Washington is highly

concentrated. The five largest banks in the state hold 75 percent

of the state's total commercial bank deposits. The two largest

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banks in the state hold about 51 percent of such deposits.

11. Spokane is the second largest city in the State of

Washington. The Spokane metropolitan area is comprised of the

urbanized area in and about the City of Spokane. It is the trade

center of a region which encompasses 36 counties and 1.2 million

inhabitants. Agriculture is the major income producing industry

of the region. The area also contains important mining districts,

extensive timber forests and a large number of lumber mills.

12. The Spokane metropolitan area is served by six commercial

banks which operate more than 3 banking offices in the area. Two

of the six banks, Old National Bank of Washington and The First

National Bank of Spokane, are affiliates of Washington Bancshares,

a bank holding company headquartered in Spokane. Banking in the

Spokane metropolitan area is highly concentrated. The three

largest banking organizations hold over 90 percent of the commercial

bank deposits and have about 85 percent of all bank offices located

in the Spokane metropolitan area, WTB is the third largest banking

organization in the area with about 17.6 percent of the total

deposits in commercial banks.

13. Spokane County is served by nine banks, including the

two affiliates referred to in paragraph 12 of this complaint, which

operate 47 banking offices in the county. Banking in Spokane

County is highly concentrated with the three largest banks holding

about 89 percent of the total commercial bank deposits in the

county. WTB is the-third largest bank in Spokane County with about

16.4 percent of the county's commercial bank deposits. NBC has

about 1.8 percent of such deposits.

14, Washington bank law permits a bank to establish de novo

branches only in the city in which it has its principal place of

business, in unincorporated areas in the county in which it is

headquartered, or in incorporated cities and towns which do not

have banking offices of any commercial bank. NBC may not under

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Washington law establish a de novo branch in Spokane. At present,

only three banking organizations may legally open new branch

offices in Spokane and only six may legally do so in the un-

incorporated areas of Spokane County. Only three of these

orgenizations have deposits in excess of $10 million. WTB is one

of these organizations.

15. MBC has the capability and incentive to enter comercial

banking in the Spokane metropolitan area by means less anti-

competitive than by merger with urg. |

16. WTB has the capability and incentive to expand de novo

into unincorporated areas of Spokane County and by other means |

into other areas of eastern Washington. WTB also has the capability

and incentive to combine with one or more other middle-sized banks

in the state to form a new state-wide banking organization able to

compete with the existing market leaders in banking markets

throughout Washington,

17. Correspondent bank services are generally provided by

large metropolitan banks to smaller local banks, and they include

the clearing of checks and other Commercial transactions,

participation loans (usually larger loans) with the local bank,

providing various forms of investment and other information and

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advice, providing data processing services, and providing a variety

of other financial services which « particular local bank may

require, As partial compensation for such services, a local bank

maintains inter-bank deposits with its principal correspondent

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18. c is a leading source of correspondent bank services

to other commercial banks in Washington. The market for the

offering and sale of correspondent bank services in Washington

is highly concentrated with NBC and one other bank holding about

70 percent of the total correspondent deposits in the state.

19. WTB presently holds a small share of correspondent bank

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deposits in Washington. It offers correspondent services to many

local banks operating in eastern Washington. WTB has the resources

and incentive to become a greater competitor in providing general

correspondent services to small banks in eastern Washington.

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OFFENSE

20. Defendants NBC and WTB entered into an agreement on or

about February 24, 1971 which, if consummated, will result in the

merger of NBC and WIB under the charter and with the title of NBC.

Under the merger agreement, shareholders of WTB common stock would

receive common stock in Marine in exchange for their holdings of

such WTB stock. The Comptroller of the Currency approved the

proposed merger on September 24, 1971.

21. The effect of the merger described in paragraph 20 above

may be to substantially lessen competition or tend to create a

monopoly in violation of Section 7 of the Clayton Act in the

following ways, among others: :

(a) actual and potential competition between NBC

and WTB in commercial banking will be permanent ly

eliminated;

(b) actual and potential competition generally in

commercial banking in Spokane County and in the

Spokane metropolitan area will be substantially

lessened;

(e) MBC will be eliminated as a potential substantial

competitive factor in commercial banking in the

Spokane metropolitan area;

(4) WTB will be eliminated as a potential substantial

Competitive factor in that part of Spokane County

which is outside of the Spokane metropolitan area;

(e) WTB will be eliminated as a potential substantial

competitive factor in banking markets in other

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parts of eastern Washington outside of Spokane

County;

(t) the position of NBC and the other dominant

Washington banks will become entrenched in

many local markets in eastern Washington;

(g) potential competition will be reduced by the

elimination of WTB as a potential member of

a new banking organization capable of entering

Commercial banking in other markets throughout

the State of Washington;

(h) the number of middle-sized banks in Washington

capable of combining with other middle-sized

and smaller banks to become a statewide system

will be reduced;

(1) actual and potential competition between NBC

and WIB in correspondent benking in eastern

Washington will be permanently eliminated; and

) mergers and consolidations between other lead-

ing banks in Washington may be fostered, result-

ing in the concentration of banking resources

in the state in the hands of a few large banks,

thereby reducing diversity in banking choices

and promoting parallel policies among leading

banks in local markets.

PRAYER

WHEREFORE, plaintiff prays:

1. That the merger agreement described in paragraph 20 of

this complaint be adjudged to be unlawful, in violation of Section

7 of the Clayton Act.

2. That defendants and all persons acting on their behalf

be enjoined from carrying out the aforesaid agreement of merger,

or any similar plan or agreement, the effect of which would be to

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merge, consolidate or in any other way combine the businesses of

said defendants.

3. That the plaintiff have such other and further relief as

the Court may deem just and proper,

° 4. That plaintiff recover the costs of this action.

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

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Civil Action File

No. 237-71C2

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MARINE BANCORPORATION;

THE NATIONAL BANK OF COMMERCE

OF SEATTLE; and

WASHINGTON TRUST BANK,

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For answer to the Complaint of plaintiff, the above

named defendants admit, deny and allege as follows:

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1. Defendants admit this Court has jurisdiction of

this action by reason of the statutes cited in paragraph 1 of

plaintiff's Complaint but deny that defendants have violated

or, by consummating the merger alleged in the Complaint, vould

violate any of those statutes.

2. Defendants admit the allegations in paragraph 2

of plaintiff's Complaint.

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3. Defendants admit the allegations in paragraph 3

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of plaintiff's Complaint.

5. For answer to paragraph 5 of plaiatife’s Complaint,

defendants allege that Washington Trust Bank is a corporation

organized and existing under the laws of Washington, engaged in

the business of banking, and maintains its principal place of

business in Spokane, Spokane County, Washington.

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6, For answer to paragraph 6 of plaintiff's Complaint,

defendants admit that commercial banks fill a role in the nation's

economy, and that many commercial banks perform some or all of

the functions described in the said paragraph, but deny that 411

the functions described in the paragraph are performed by all

commercial banks, affirmatively allege that many of the functiors

and services described in the paragraph are also performed by

institutions other than commercial banks, and except as herein

expressly admitted, deny any and all other allegations containeé

in the paragraph. ;

7. Answering paragraph 7 of plaintiff's Complaint,

the defendants amt that both of the defendant banks are

engaged in Interstate Commerce.

8. Answering paragraph 8 of Plaintiff's Complaint,

the defendants admit that The National Bank of Commerce of

Seattle is the second largest commercial bank based in Mashingiec..

but deny plaintiff's allegation that the said bank is the second

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largest commercial bank in the state; and, in this connection,

allege that Seattle First National Bank, The Bank of California,

and Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce each have banking offices

and do a banking business in the state of Washington and all of

them are larger than The National Bank of Commerce of Seattle.

Further answering the allegations of said paragraph 8, the de fen-

dants expressly deny any implication thereof to the effect that

either the state of Washington or “counties of eastern Washing-

ton" constitute a relevant market area, or an appropriate

geographical region, or section of the country within the purview

of §7 of the Clayton Act, with respect to the business or activ-

ities of the defendants or any of them, Except as herein

expressly denied, the defendants admit the remaining allegations

of said paragraph.

9. Defendants admit the allegations of paragraph 9 of

plaintiff's Complaint, except that defendants expressly deny

any implication thereof to the effect that either the state of

Washington or "that part of the state of Washington which lies

east of the Cascade Mountains” constitute a relevant market area

or an appropriate geographical region or section of the country,

within the purview of §7 of the Clayton Act, with respect to the

business or activities of the defendants or any of them.

10. Answering paragraph 10 of Plaintiff's Complaint,

defendants deny that commercial banking in the state of Washing-

ton is highly concentrated, or that it is concentrated at all,

and further deny all other allegations therein contained.

11. Answering paragraph 11 of plaintiff's Complaint,

defendants admit that the city of Spokane is the second largest

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city in the state of Washington, that the Spokane metropolitan

area is comprised of the ucbeniaed area in and about the city of

Spokane, that agriculture is a major income-producing industry

in Spokane county, and that there are extensive timber forests,

a number of lumber mills and some mining districts in Spokane P

County. Except as herein expressly admitted, the defendants

deny each and every allegation contained in said paragraph.

12. Answering — 12 of plaintiff's Complaint,

Gefendants admit that the Spokane metropolitan area is served by

not less than six commercial banks which operate more than 34

banking offices in the area; admit that two of such banks, namely)

old National Bank of Spokane and The First National Bank of

Spokane, are affiliates of Washington Bancshares, a bank holding

company headquartered in Spokane. Further answering said para-

graph, defendants deny that Washington Trust Bank is the third

largest banking organization in the Spokane area, and in this

connection, allege that Seattle First National Bank, Old National

Bank of Spokane and Pacific National Bank of Washington each have

banking offices and do a banking business in the City of Spokane

and all three of them are larger than Washington Trust Bank.

Defendants deny that banking in the Spokane area is highly con-

centrated or that it is concentrated at all, and except as

expressly admitted above, deny each and every allegation in the

said paragraph.

13. Answering paragraph 13 of plaintiff's Complaint,

defendants allege that Spokane County is served by ten (not nine) i

commercial banks, F the two affiliated banks referred to ;

in paragraph 12 of the Complaint, and that the said ten banks

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operate 51 (not 47) banking offices in the county. Defendants

further admit that Washington Trust Bank has about 16.4% of the

county's commercial bank deposits and that The National Bank of

Commerce of Seattie has about 1.8% of such deposits. Defendants

deny that banking in Spokane County is highly concentrated or

that it is concentrated at all and, except as expressly admitted

above, deny each and every allegation contained in said paragraph.

i4. Answering paragraph 14 of plaintiff's Complaint,

defendants admit that the banking law of the state of Washington

permits a bank to establish de novo branches only in the city in

which it is headquartered, in unincorporated areas in the county

in which it has its principal place of business, and in incor-

porated cities and towns which do not have banking offices of any

commercial bank, and that under Washington law The National Bank

ot Commerce of Seattle is not permitted to establish a de novo

branch in the city of Spokane or in Spokane County except in an

incorporated city or town in Spokane County which does not have

banking offices of any commercial bank. Defendants allege that

4 (not 3) banks mayywith the approval of the regulatory author-

ities, legally open new branch offices in the City of Spokane,

deny that any of those 4 banks have less than $10 million in

deposits, and admit that Washington Trust Bank is one of those

banks. Further answering the allegations of said paragraph,

defendants allege that 7 (not 6) banks may, with the approval of

the regulatory authorities, legally open de hovo branches in

Spokane County in the unincorporated areas of Spokane County and

except as expressly admitted above, defendants deny each and

every allegation contained in said paragraph.

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15. Defendants deny the allegations contained in

paragraph 15 of plaintiff's Complaint.

. Defendants deny the allegations contained in

paregragh 16 of plaintiff's Complaint.

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paragraph 17 of the Complaint, but deny the implications in the

paragraph, if such are intended, that the services alleged con-

stitute a relevant line of commerce within the purview of

Section 7 of the Clayton Act, or that the two banks, parties

Gefendant to this action, compete with one another in offering

or performing such services.

18. Answeting paragraph 18 of plaintiff's Complaint,

defendants admit that The National Bank of Commerce of Seattle

furnishes various services to other commercial banks in Washing-

ton and elsewhere, but except as expressly admitted above, defen-

dente deny each and every allegation contained in said paragraph.

19. Answering paragraph 19 of plaintiff's Complaint,

defendants admit that Washington Trust Bank furnishes certain

limited services for some small banks. Except as expressly ad-

mitted above, defendants deny each and every allegation contained

in said paragraph.

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20. Defendants admit the allegations contained in

paragraph 20 of plaintiff's Complaint.

21. Defendants deny each and every allegation contained

in paragraph 21 of plaintiff's Complaint.

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AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE, the defendants allege that the anti-

competitive effects, if any, attributable to the pending merger

alleged in plaintiff's Complaint are to be judged and governed by

the etandarés set forth in the Bank Merger Act of 1966 [12 U.S.C.

1828(c)) and if there are any anticompetitive effects resulting

from the said proposed merger, such anticompetitive effects are

Clearly outweighed in the public interest by the probable effect

of the transaction in meeting the convenience and needs of the

community to be served.

Wherefore having fully answered plaintiff's Complaint,

defendants pray that this action be dismissed, the injunction

dissolved, and defendants have their costs and disbursements here

in to be taxed.

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Daniel M. Gribbon R. A. Moen

Charles Lister James Wm. Johnston

COVINGTON & BURLING GRAHAM, McCORD, DUNN, MOEN,

688 Sixteenth Street, N. u. JOHNSTON ¢ ROSENQUIST

Washington, D. C. 20006 1001 - 4th Avenue, 39th Floor

Telephone: (202) 293-3300 Seattle, Washington 98104

Telephone: (206) 624-8300

A copy of the foregoing Answer of Defendants to

Plaintiff's Complaint was airmailed on November 22, 1971,

addressed to:

Richard J. Torre, Attorney

Anti-Trust Division

Department of Justice

Washington, d. c. 20530

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INTERVENOR'S ANSWER TO PLAINTIFF'S COMPLAINT

Intervenor, William B. Camp, Comptroller of the Currency,

by his attorneys, answers the Complaint herein as follows:

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1. Imtervenor admits that plaintiff purports to bring

this suit under Section 15 of the Act of Congress of October 15,

1914, c. 323, 36 Stat. 736, as amended (15 U.S.C. §25) commonly

known as the Clayton Act, and seeks the relief as alleged in

paragraph 1 of the Complaint. Intervenor denies any inference

or implication arising out of paragraph 1 of the Complaint that

the standards under which the legality of this merger is to be

determined are limited to those of Section 7 of the Clayton Act.

Intervenor further answers that the correct standards are those

set forth in the Act of Congress of February 21, 1966, 80 Stat. 7

amending Section 18(c) of the Federal Deposit Insurance Act (12

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1 9.8. c. 1828(c), commonly known as the Bank Merger Act.

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8 5. Intervenor denies each and every allegation in para-

9 graph 6 of the Complaint except it admits that generally banks f

10 accept deposits and make loans and advances; that demand deposits

11 are held by banks and that loans to individuals and businesses

12 supply part of their credit requirements wherever they may be

13 located; that banks accept deposits other than demand deposits

14 from various types of depositors and provide other services to

15 the public, including those financial services detailed in the

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17 Intervenor denies that a principle function of either of

18 the defendant banks or any other bank is the creation of net

19 additions to the money supply. such creation is not an element

20 || of competition among banks, does not shield banks from the

21 competition of other financial institutions, and in no way makes

22 banks unique. The proportion of money payments made by checks

23 drawn against demand deposits in the United States is not known. |

24 Intervenor further avers and alleges that banks are in

25 direct and substantial competition with other financial institu- |

26 tions in the loaning of money at interest and are in no respect

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cipally as a source of lendable funds. In return for such

deposits banks offer interest payments, security and safekeeping :

of funds, the honoring of drafts drawn against a depositor's

account and other inducements. To obtain such deposits banks

compete directly and substantially with other financial institu- ’

tions vigorously seeking such funds and are in no respect n

in this endeavor.

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8. Intervenor admits the allegations of paragraph 8 of the |

Complaint, except that it is unable to admit or deny the first

sentence thereof, not knowing to what the comparative “second

largest" relates. In addition, Intervenor denies any implica-

tion that the State of washington and/or the “counties of eastern

Washington" constitute a section of the country within which the

Court should measure the effects of this acquisition on competi-

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9. Intervenor admits the allegations in paragraph 9 of the

Complaint, except that it is unable to admit or deny the first

sentence of paragraph 9, in that it does not know to what the

comparative “eighth largest" and “second largest" relate.

10. Intervenor denies each and every allegation of paragraph

10 of the Complaint, and further denies that the concept of

*concentration" is meaningful in a regwiated industry such as

banking. .

1. Intervenor denies each and every allegation in para- |

graph 11 of the Complaint, except that it admits that Spokane

has the second largest population of any city in the State of

Washington and also admits the existence of agriculture and

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and numerous lumber mills around the Spokane area.

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12. Intervenor admits the first and second sentences of

paragraph 12 of the Complaint, and denies each and every other

allegation in paragraph.12. Tntervenor denies that the con-

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alleges that Spokane County is served by ten, not nine, commer-

cial banks, and that the said ten banks operate 51, not 47, . |

banking offices in the county. Intervenor admits that Washington

Trust Bank has about 16.4% of the county's commercial bank ö

deposits and that the National Bank of Commerce of Seattle has

about 1.8% of such deposits. Intervenor denies each and every

other allegation contained in paragraph 13.

14. Intervenor admits. the first and second sentences of

Paragraph 14. Intervenor further alleges that such permission

is subject to the approval of the state or federal bank regula-

tory agencies, as the case may be, and that without such approval.

such branching would be uilawful. Intervenor alleges that four, |

not three, banks may, with the approval of the regulatory

authorities, legally open new branch offices in the City of

Spokane. Intervenor denies that any of those four banks have

less than $10 million in deposits, and admits that washington

Trust Bank is one of those banks. Further answering the allega-

tions of said paragraph, Intervenor alleges that seven, not six,

banks may, with the approval of the regulatory authorities, |

legally open de novo branches in Spokane County. Except for

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those allegations admitted above, Intervenor denies each and

every allegation contained in paragraph 14.

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16. Denied.

17. ‘Intervenor admits that the allegations in paragraph 17

of the Complaint constitute a generalized description of the

furnishing of some services by one bank to another which is some-

times done under a relationship called correspondent banking. |

Intervenor denies that such a relationship constitutes a line of N

commerce for purposes of Section 7 of the Clayton Act, and that

the defendant banks herein compete with one another in the

furnishing or offering to furnish such services.

18. Intervenor denies each and every allegation in para- \

graph 18 of the Complaint, except that it admits that the na-

tional Bank of Commerce furnishes some banking services to some

other banks in the state of Washington and elsewhere.

19. Intervenor denies each and every allegation in para-

graph 19 of the Complaint, except that it admits that washin§ton |

Trust Bank furnishes limited services to some smaller banks. '

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20. Admitted.

21. Intervenor denies each and every allegation contained |

in paragraph 21 of the Complaint.

AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE

Intervenor alleges that the Bank Merger Act of 1966, 80 Stat.

7, U.S.C., §1828(c) is an affirmative defense in this case because

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substantiality of which is denied) are clearly outweighed in the

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public interest by the probable effects of this transaction in

meeting the conveniences and needs of the community to be

serviced 12 U.S.C. §1828(c) (5) (B).

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Washington, b. C. 20220

Area Code 202-964-2309

Dated: e 21971

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Since January 1, 1967:

Ch of Banking Hours

(1) Considered and discussed during February, 1971. :

(2) ‘Participating were John C. Hilsen, Vice President; Leonard C.

Decker, Vice President; F. Neale Bock, Jr., Vice President;

William L. Hart, Vice President; William c. Counsell, ‘Assistant

Vice President & Cashier; Donald L. Kirkbride, Vice President &

Diregtor; William K. Scammell, Jr., Vice President & Director;

Claude Flormann, Assistant Vice President & Assistant Secretary;

Thomas L. Perko, Vice President; Eldon B. Partch; Assistant Vice

. President and Robert J. St. Clair, Auditor.

(3) Changing banking hours from 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. to 9:30 a.m.

to 4:30 p.m.

(4) Service was added March }, 1971.

(5) N/A

299 cking Account

(1) Considered and discussed during July, 1969.

(2) Participating officers and directors were same as above #2 with

the exception of F. Neale Bock, Jr., Vice President.

(3) X-200 checking accounts to be exempt from service charges if

minimum balance is $200 or more; $2.00 per month charge if balance

arope below $200.

(4) Service was added August, 1969.

(5) N/A :

Food Stamp Program

(1) Considered and discussed in February, 1968.

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(2) Participating officers and directors were the same as above with the

exception of F. Neale Bock, Jr., Vice President.

(3) Service was the sale of Food Stamps in our outlying offices for the

State of Washington (Opportunity Pines and East Trent branches only).

(4) Service was added February, 1968.

(5) N/A

Drive-In Visual Auto Teller

(1) Considered and discussed beginning June, 1969.

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(2) Participating officers and directors were same as above plus

Richard A. Stejer, Vice President and Director.

(3) Service provides Visual Auto Teller equipment in lieu of drive-in

island at South Hill Drive-In Branch under construction. Also

considered for North-Monroe Drive-In Branch and East Sprague

Drive-In Branch.

(4) These installations were made at the South Hill Drive-In Branch

which op d in J , 1970; at our North Monroe Drive-In Branch

new building which opened December, 1970; and at our East Sprague

Drive-In Branch remodeling; and in August, 1971, at our remodeled

Downtown Drive-In Branch.

(5) N/A

Overdraft Loan Program With Check Guarantee Card Peature

(1) Investigation assignment was made in October, 1967. Service was

‘considered and discussed continually until a decision was made

July 15, 1968.

(2) Investigation assignment was made to William L. Hart, Vice President

with direct involvement by John C. Hilsen, Vice President and further

participation by all officers and directors listed above.

(3) Consideration was given to Overdraft Loan Programs and Check

Guarantee Cards.

(4) The decision was made not to provide an Overdraft Loan Program at

that time (this service was added December, 1969 as an adjunct to

Master Charge Card services and is called Master Check Loan).

(5) Check Guarantee Cards have not been added as it is not regarded

as profitable.

Master Charge Cash-By-Mail

(1) Considered and discussed in the Fall of 1969.

(2) Dennis R. Patterson, Assistant Cashier initiated the service.

Participating were John C. Hilsen, Vice President; William K.

Scammell, Jr., Vice President & Director and Philip H. Stanton,

President & Director.

Cash-By-Mail allows any Master Charge cardholder to obtain cash

by mail up to his cred?t card limit.

Service was added December, 1969.

N/A

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Page 3

TV_Auto Banking

(1) Considered and discussed during the Summer of 1969.

(2) Participating were L d C. Decker, Vice President; Richard A.

Stejer, Vice President & Director; William u. Counsell, Assistant

Vice President and Cashier; Donald L. Kirkbride, Vice President &

Director; William R. Scammell, Jr., Vice President & Director; and

Philip H. Stanton, President & Director.

(3) Consideration of installation of TV Auto Teller units at new or

remodeled locations. ,

(4) Service not added...

(5) It was decided to use the Visual Auto Teller units instead.

Superchek

(1) Considered and discussed in late 1970 and early 1971.

(2) Participating were Thomas C. Garrett, Assistant Vice President ;

John C. Hilsen, Vice President; and John Schaar, Manager,

Information Systems Department.

(3) Superchek would provide a pre-authorized bill paying system for

customers with direct transfer of funds to customer's accounts.

(4) Service was not added. 2

(5) We did not believe it could be profitable.

Freight Billing

(1) Considered and discussed in June, 1971.

(2) Participating officers were same as above #2.

(3) To compute freight billings, process and debit shipper with credit

to carrier's accounts (for local freight companies).

(4) Service was not added.

(5) We did not believe it could be profitable.

Bank Card Embossing

(1) Considered and discussed in July, 1970.

(2) Participating were Dennis R. Patterson, Assistant Cashier; John c.

Hilsen, Vice President. :

(3) To emboss Master Charge Cards for another local bank.

(4) Service was added July, 1970.

(5) N/A

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(1) considered and discussed in October and November, 1971.

(2) Participating were Dennis R. Patterson, Assistant Cashier; John c.

Hilsen, Vice President; William K. Scammell, Jr., Vice President &

Director; and Philip H. Stanton, President & Director.

(3) To allow Master Charge preferred cardholders to skip the payment

of December, 1971, without penalty.

(4) Service was added in November, 19.

(5) N/A

Master Charge Special Purpose Checks

(1). Considered and discussed in October and Movender, 1970.

(2) Participating were the same four officers and directors as above.

(3) To mail to all Master Charge cardholders Special purpose checks with

which they could pay their motor vehicle license, income tax to the

Internal Revenue Service and their property tax to Spokane County.

(4) This service was added November, 1970.

(5) N/A

Master Charge Draft Processing Por Correspondent Banks

(1) Considered and discussed in September, 1969.

(2) Participating were Dennis R. Patterson, Assistant Cashier; John C.

Hilsen, Vice President; William K. Scammell, Jr., Vice President &

Director; and Philip H. Stanton, President & Director.

(3) To process Master Charge sales drafts for correspondent banks in

Montana and Washington.

( Service was added in September, 1969.

(5) N/A =

Washington Trust Bank Self-Employed Retirement Plan and Trust (Keogh Plan or

HR-10)

(1) Considered and discussed prior to Pebruary 7, 1968.

(2) Participating were Kendall S. Wynstra, Vice President & Trust Officer;

William K. Scammell, Jr., Vice President & Director; and Philip R.

Stanton, President & Director.

(3) To provide a self-employed retirement plan and trust under the

Internal Revenue Service qualification letter of February 7, 1968.

(4) Service was added February 7, 1968. .

(S) N/A :

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(1) Considered and discussed prior to May 28, 1971.

(2) Participating officers and directors were the same as above.

(3) 1 provide corporate profit-sharing trusts under the Internal

Revenue Service qualification letter of May 28, 1971.

(4) Service was added May 28, 1971.

(5) N/A

Public Works Trust Escrows

(1) Considered and discussed prior to Pebruary 23, 1970.

(2) Participating officers and directors were the Sam as above.

(3) Te provide investment in Washington Trust Bank Savings Certificates

of public contractors retainage funds on state, municipal and state

agency contracts.

(4) Service was added February 23, 1970.

(5) N/A

Correspondent DDA Process ing

(1) Considered and discussed beginning February, 1967.

(2) Participating were William K. Scammell, Jr., Vice President &

Director; Thomas L. Perko, Vice President; Richard A. Stejer,

Vice President & Director; Eldon B. Partch, Assistant Vice President;

« @nd William L. Hart, Vice President.

(3) Te process DDA for correspondent banks on our computer.

(4) Service was added in 1967.

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Label Printing

(1) Considered and discussed in January, 1968.

(2) Participating was John c. Hilsen, Vice President.

(3) To print continuous fore mailing labels on our computer print-out

equipment for tomers as ded.

(4) Service was added in September} 1968..

(5) N/A .

Bank General Ledger Processing

(1) Considered and discussed beginning in April, 1968.

(2) Participating were John C. Hilsen, Vice President and Eldon B. Partch,

Assistant Vice President.

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(3) To provide general ledger print-outs for correspondent banks.

(4) Service was added in September, 1968.

(5) N/A

Labor Distribution

(1) Considered and discussed in January, 1968.

(2) Participating was John C. Hilsen, Vice President.

(3) Process labor distMibution on a custom basis for industrial

ts as ded.

(A) Service was added March, 1969.

(5) N/A

Account Numbering System Preparation 0

(2) Considered and sense in November, 1968. ie

(2) Participating — John C. Hilsen, Vice President; John Schaar,

Manager, Information Systems Department; Robert J. St. Clair,

Auditor; and William L. Hart, Vice President.

(3) Provide computer print-out en multilith plates for specific customer,

Selectrite Systems, Inc., for account numbering system.

( Service was added January, 1969.

(5) N/A

Bank Credit Card

(1) Considered and discussed beginning in the Fall of 1966 with Arthur

Kranzley Company survey--discussion resumed in Pall ot 1967.

(2) Participating were Thomas L Perko, Vice President; John C. Hilsen,

Vice President; William L. Hart, Vice President; William K.

— Scammell, Jr., Vice President & Director; and Philip H. Stanton,

President & Director. a

(3) Provide a bank credit card.

(4) Service was added in July, 1968.

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(1) Considered and 4i a in J 5, 1971.

(2) Participating were John C. Hilsen, Vice President und Eldon B.

. Assistant Vice President.

(3) Te process installment loans on computer with necessary print-outs,

ete., for correspondent banks.

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(5) N/A

Won-Bank General Ledger Proces: ing

) Considered and discussed in July, 1971.

(2) Participating was John c. Nilsen, Vice President.

(3) 0 process General Ledger posting with necessary print-outs as

~ required by non-bank bank customers.

(4) Service was added December, 1971.

(5) N/A

Professional Billing - Accounts Receivable

(1) Considered and discussed in January, 1969.

(2) Participating was John C. Hilsen, Vice President.

(3) To provide computer posting and handling of Accounts Receivables

for doctors, dent ists, etc. f

(4) Service was added June. 1970.

(5) N/A

Correspondent Savings Account Processing

(1) Considered and discussed in July, 1969.

(2) Participating were Eldon B. Partch, Assistant Vice President and

John C. Hilsen, vice President.

(3) To process posting, interest computations, statements (ete.) for

correspondent bank's savings accounts.

(4) Service was added February, 1970.

(5) N/A

Accounts Payable Processing

(1) Considered and discussed in January, 1970.

(2) Participating was John c. Hilsen, Vice President.

(3) To post and print out Accounts Payables for bank customers.

(4) Service was added April, 1970.

(5) N/A

Accounts Receivable Processing

(i) Considered and discussed in April, 1968.

(2) Participating was John C. Milsen, Vice President .

(3) Processes Accounts Receivables for customers and Provides print-outs,

including aging, as required.

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Participating was John C. Hilsen, Vice President.

Provides custom programming for bank customers, for computer use,

on a contract basis.

Service was added January, 1968.

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Participating was John C. Hilsen, Vice President.

Provides computer distribution and print-outs of "Income and Expense"

ledgers for customers.

Service was added September, 1970.

N/A

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N. 3808 Sullivan Road

Spokane, Washington

Fidelity Mutual Savings Bank

West 42nd and Riverside Avenue

Spokane, Washington 99201

Spokane City Treasurer

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Spokane Municipal Building

Spokane, Washington

American Sign & Indicator Co.

2310 No. Pancher Way

Spokane, Washington 99220

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Bert L. Sellin

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Walter F. CI, oti

Vice Presidente

$4,100,000 real estate

loan

No result

To clarify the services of

the Fiscal Agency Dept. and

seek cooperation of the City

Treasurer in connection with

the depositing of funds to

cover redemption of bonds

and coupons. NBofc was

appointed Fiscal Agent for

the State of Washington

effective April 8, 1971. A

satisfactory arrangement was

worked out with the City

Treasurer to have all funds

directed to the Fiscal Agency

Dept. for the redemption of

all bonds and coupons issued

by the City of Spokane

Established relationship

shortly thereafter

Protection

Int. 23

Schedule I

naae 1 2 ane ae Se ame T

55

Date Potential Customer

9-70

10-70

7-16-70

11-18-71

12-28-71

Name of Customer or

Name of Officer

or Employee _

Cascade Airways, Inc.

Spokane International Airport

Spokane, Washington 99219

Thomas J. Faure

Gonzaga University

Spokane, Washington 99202

Columbia Electric & Supply Co.

East 3420-Ferry Avenue

Spokane, Washington 99220

Columbia Electric & Supply Co.

East 3420-Ferry Avenue

Spokane, Washington 99220

Goofy's, Inc.

West 340 Riverside

Spokane, Washington 99201

Mr. and Mrs. John Key

2826 West Hoffman

Spokane, Washington

Mr. Steve Lewis

2827 West Hoffman

Spokane, Vashington

Walter F. Clift

Vice President

Ronald L. Bosi

Assistant Cashier

Gregory T. Faure

James Lockwood

Vice President

Robert Cummings

Vice President

Don H. Linderoth

Manager

Charles R. Chadwick

Vice President

William c. Estep

Vice President

Don H. Linderoth

Manager

Don H. Linderoth

Manager

,

Dave Key

Checking account was opened.

Credit was extended in 1971.

Savings account relationship

with Crown Hill Branch

No result

No result

No result

No result

Int. 23

Schedule 1

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Answer

FIRST:

* Yes, on two occasions.

1. Crocker-Citizens National nk. was aud. is now a correspondent

bank of NBofC. Since the declination, our correspondent has

changed its corporate name to Crocker National Bank.

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2. Date of refusal: June 18, 1970. Refusal was never in writing.

A.

Reasons:

(1) Correspondent bank's tight money position

(2) Financial statement proportions

3. Whitney-Fidalgo Seafoods, Inc.

2360 West Commodore Way

Post Office Box 4008

Seattle, Washington

A.

Amount requested: $15,000,000

Working Capital

4. The credit was approved as a participation between NBofC and Bank of

America, N. r. & S.A., San Francisco, California,

1. Bank of Wertes, k. T. & S.A., San Francisco, California

A.

Bank of America was and is now a correspondent bank of

National Bank of Commerce. a

2. date of refusal: Approxinate ly June 11, 1971. Refusal never

in writing.

A.

Reasons:

(1) Capital expenditures which lowered the company's

working capital. This was a violation of the 1970

loan agreement.

(2) Financial statement proportions.

DEFENDANTS' ANSWERS TO

PLAINTIFF'S INTERROGATORIES - 40

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(3) Collateral strain. ; |

(4) Some concern for management for allowing

capital expenditures. .

3. Whitney-Fidalgo Seafoods, Inc. - | |

2360 West Commodore Way .

Post Office Box 4008 t

Seattle, Washington_ \

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A. Amount requested: $15,000,000 |

B. Working Capital |

4. me customer obtained financing from Seattle-First National Bank,

Seattle, Washington, at which time NBofC lost the relationship.

For WTB:

(1) The U.S. National Bank of Oregon, Portland, Oregon,

*a@ correspondent of WTB, refused to participate in part of a loan

originated by the Washington Trust Bank to Idapine Mills, Inc.

on August 18, 1969. me amount of credit involved was $1,000,000

The purpose was to enable the borrower to cut timber under U.S.

Forest Service timber contracts before an increase in costs was

to come into effect. The applicant's needs were ultimately

satisfied by the U.S. National Bank of Oregon on a direct basis

because the principals of the corporation, who live in Portland,

called upon the senior management of the bank and made the

request.

(2) Chase Manhattan Bank, a correspondent of WTB,

refused to increase their line of credit to the Pack River Com-

pany in November, 1969. The bank indicated WTB had used up its

call upon them for correspondent loans. Loan applicant was Pack

River Company, Spokane, Washington. Purpose of the loan was to

replenish working capital and inventory logs. Amount requested

was $1,000,000. Owners of the business were able to raise a

portion of the needed funds on a personal basis.

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Interrogatory No. 40

(A) List each formal and informal application made by NBC

or WTB to any bank regulatory agency during the period

January 1, 1960 to date for approval to establish a de

novo banking office in Spokane 2

(B)~ With respect to each application listed in answer to

(A) state: N

(1) Date of the application, indicating whether

formal or informal;

(2) Location of the office for which approval was

sought;

(3) Whether the application was approved;

(4) If denied, reasons given by the regulatory

agency for denying the application or inquiry;

(5) Whether and when the office was opened for

business;

(6) The annual operating profits or losses for

each office opened for business from the date

of opening to date.

(C) State whether, from January 1, 1960 to date, any

officer or committee of (1) NBC and (2) WTB has considered

establishing any de novo banking offices in Spokane County

in addition to those Tisted in answer to (A).

(D) If the answer to (C) is affirmative state:

(1) Each location considered for an office;

(2) The period of time during which consideration

; was given to establishing each such office;

(3) The reasons for considering the establishment

of an office at each location;

(4) The reasons why application was not made to a

dank regulatory agency for approval to establish

each such office.

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ANSWER

Interrogatory 40

(A) The following applications were made by WTB to

bank regulatory agencies during the period January 1,

1960 to date for approval to establish de novo banking

offices in Spokane County:

1. Northtown Drive-In Branch

2. Opportunity Pines Drive-In Branch

8. South Hill Drive-In Branch

(B) On the dates shown below, the following formal ap-

plications were made:

1. Northtown Drive-In Branch—November 27, 1961

2. Opportunity Pines Drive-In Branch—June 16, 1966

8. South Hill Drive-In Branch—June 24, 1968 (exten-

sion—August 6, 1969)

Informal applications were made for Opportunity Pines

and South Hill on November 29, 1962 and were returned

by the State Regulatory Agency on February 18, 1964

as inactive. |

(2) Following are the location of the banking offices

for which approval was sought in the above application:

Northtown Drive-In Branch

Northtown Office Building

North 4401 Division Street

Spokane, Washington 99205

Opportunity Pines Drive-In Branch

North 100 Pines Road

Spokane, Washington 99206

Sotth Hill Drive-In Branch

East 611 - 31st Avenue

Spokane, Washington 99203

(3) All formal applications indicated above were ap-

proved.

(4) No applications were denied.

(5) Following are the offices and dates they opened

for business:

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Northtown Drive-In Branch—February 25, 1963

Opportunity Pines Drive-In Branch—August 4, 1967

South Hill Drive-In Branch—January 13, 1970

(6) The annual operating profit (loss) for each office

opened for business per above from the date of opening

to date is shown below. The accounting conventions fol-

lowed are noted in the footnotes in the answer to Inter-

rogatory No. 58 and in general should not be regarded

as being actual operating profits or losses because of

difficulties in allocating income and expenses for main

office or head office activities in previous years:

Northtown Drive-In Branch

1963 thru 1965—not available

1966—8 23,718.62

1967—$ 47,484.97

1968—$ 91,041.70

1969—$107,719.00

1970—$ 76,522.07

1971—$ 15,686.92

Opportunity Pines Drive-In Branch

1967— ($23,668.99) Loss

1968— ($27,469.40) Loss

1969—($ 7,362.65) Loss

1970—($ 867.48) Loss

1971— $10,121.57

South Hill Drive-In Branch

1970 — ($79,371.80) Loss

1971— ($71,831.28) Loss

(C) During the period January 1, 1960 to date, WTB

has considered establishing de novo banking offices in

Spokane County in addition to those listed above.

(D) (1) The following areas have been considered suit-

able for de novo banking offices:

1) Far North of Spokane

2) Shadle Park District.

3) In the area of Cheney, Washington

4) Wellesley Avenue, between Maple & Ash—

Spokane

5) Baldwin & Ruby—Spokane

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(2) As follows:

1)

2)

3)

4)

5)

Far North of Spokane—1968

Shadle Park District—April, 1960

Cheney, Washington—Prior to 1-68

Wellesley Avenue—August, 1969

Baldwin & Ruby—April, 1970

(3) The reasons for considering establishment of of-

fices at the above locations were as follows:

1)

2)

3)

4)

5)

Far North of Spokane—Growth in population of

area and expanding shopping center.

Shadle Park District—Large shopping center and

growth in population to the northwest.

Cheney, Washington—The continued growth in

Eastern Washington State College.

Wellesley Avenue—Maple & Ash one way street

feed from far north side of Spokane which has

continued its growth and growth in professional

and small retail buildings.

Baldwin & Ruby—Growth in small business;

large area within one mile of branch location,

zoned for manufacturing and warehousing; rapid

growth in bank deposits in market area, and in

excess of five square blocks, rezoned for residence

office from multifamily residence.

(4) Applications were not made to bank regulatory

agencies for approval to establish the above offices for

the following reasons:

1)

Far North of Spokane—First National Bank of

Spokane opened a branch office in Five Mile Shop-

ping Center and the area could not support two

banking offices.

2) Shadle Park District—After complete investiga-

3)

tion, we found at that time the area could not

support two banking offices.

Cheney, Washington—It was felt that the pres-

ent and future growth potential did not exist to

support another banking office and WTB would

not have been permitted to locate a branch with-

in the corporate city limits of Cheney.

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4/5) Wellesley Avenue/Baldwin & Ruby—Investiga-

tion was underway for information to make ap-

plication for these two offices and was put aside

after the announcement of our intent to merge

with NBC.

Interrogatory No. 48

(A) For the period January 1, 1955 to date state wheth-

er (1) Marine or its directors, officers, employees, or

other agents, or the directors, officers, employees, or other

agents of (2) NBC or (3) WTB hold or have held op-

tions to purchase stock of any Washington bank or of

any corporation which holds or controls 3% or more of

the stock of a Washington bank.

(B) If the answer to (A) is affirmative, state:

(1) The name and position of the holder of the.

option;

(2) The name and location of the bank or corpora-

tion on whose stock the option is held;

(3) The name, position, and address of the grantor

of the option;

(4) The terms and conditions of the option.

DEFENDANTS’ ANSWERS TO PLAINTIFF’S INTERROGATORIES

Answers to Interrogatory 48

For Marine and NBC:

So far as is known to its management, for the period

January 1, 1955 to date, Marine Bancorporation and its

subsidiaries and the directors, officers, employees, or other

agents thereof have not held options to purchase stock of

any Washington bank or of any corporation which holds

or controls 3% or more of the stock of any Washington

bank. If such options are or have been held, it was with-

out the knowledge of management of Marine Bancorpo-

ration or its subsidiaries and would be held as private

investments.

For WTB:

On the first day of December, 1965, WTB loaned

R. L. Goedde $51,000 at six percent (6%) annual inter-

est to be repaid in monthly installments of $500 per

. d .

month. R. L. Goedde is the Vice President and Cashier

of Farmers State Bank of Uniontown at Uniontown,

Washington, and the owner of 171 shares, which consti-

State Bank of Washington from the Estate of aed

G. Cordes and another five (5) shares from Martiis

the said 171 shares together with some life insurance,

pursuant to the terms of a pledge agreement which grants

to WTB a right of first refusal to purchase the stock.

WTB was also entitled to representation with one di-

rector on the bank’s board of directors. The pertinent

paragraph reads as follows:

That during the term of this loan, or for a period

of ten (10) years from and after date of this

agreement, whichever occurs last, if the Borrower

or their heirs, executors, administrators or assigns,

receive, from time to time, a bona fide offer to pur-

chase all or any part of their stock of the Farmers

State Bank, Uniontown, Washington, and such offer

to purchase is satisfactory to the Borrower, said

Borrower or their heirs, executors, administrators or

assigns shall immediately notify the Bank of said

offer by Registered Mail at its Main Office and the

Borrower or their heirs, executors, administrators or

assigns agree to sell said stock to a person named

by the Bank at the price and on the terms of the

offer so made, said notice shall require the person

so named, if it desires to exercise said right to pur-

chase, to make said purchase within 10 days after

such notice is received.

WTB also holds a right of first refusal to purchase

5,817 shares, which constitutes 29.085% of the capital

stock of Security Bank of Washington at Ephrata, Wash-

ington. Gordon R. Fletcher, a Vice President and Direc-

tor of the Security Bank of Washington died owning

29.085% of the bank’s capital stock. To pay death taxes,

costs of administration, and other obligations of the es-

tate, it was necessary to sell the decedent’s stock in the

Ephrata bank. To prevent this stock from falling into.

the hands of strange or unfriendly owners, William Wol-

ford, President of the bank, arranged for a group of

fourteen, all of whom were employees or officers of the

bank, to purchase from the

To finance the purchase, Wolford arranged with WTB

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stock. The names and

these borrowers, the amount of their re-

ve loans, and the terms of repayment are all set

in the answers to Interrogatory 52. The pertinent

paragraph of the pledge agreement reads as follows:

That before Borrower shall sell or cause gle

exchanged or transferred any part or portion of sai

shares of stock hereinabove referred to, he shall no-

tify Bank in writing by registered mail at the Bank’s

address in Spokane, Washington, of his intention to

sell such stock or cause it to be exchanged or trans-

ferred, and in said notice the Borrower shall further

state the amount he has been offered for the stock,

and the price, terms and conditions of the proposed

sale. In the event the said notice specifies a trade

or exchange of said stock for property other re

cash, the value of property to be exchanged

traded for the said stock shall be set forth.

For a period of 30 days from and after the mail-

ing of said notice, the Bank shall have the exclusive

right and option to name a person to purchase the

part or portion of said stock proposed to be sold,

or transferred by the Borrower for the

price and upon the terms and conditions stated in

the notice.

Interrogatory No. 53

(A) State with respect to (1) Marine, (2) NBC, and

(3) WTB, whether any of their directors, officers, em-

‘oyees, or other agents is serving or has served at any

me since January 1, 1955 on the board of directors

of any other bank located in Washington.

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(B) If the anSwer to (A) is affirmative, state with re-

spect to each such individual:

(1) His name and the nature of his affiliation with

a defendant at the time of such service ;

(2) The bank involved and its location ;

(3) His length of service as a director of each bank.

Answer to Interrogatory 53

For Marine and NBC:

Two former directors of Marine and NBC and one

present director of NBC have served as directors of other

banks in Washington as follows:

Keith Fisken served as a director of Washington Mu-

tual Savings Bank and also as a director of Marine and

NBC from 1955 to 1966.

Arthur W. Faragher served as a director of Pruden-

tial Mutual Savings Bank and also as a director of Ma-

rine and NBC from January 1960 to January 1971.

Winston D. Brown, a director of NBC since August

25, 1966, served as a director of Prudential Mutual

Savings Bank prior to becoming a director of NB of C.

For WTB:

During the period January 1, 1955 to date and con-

tinuing, an officer of WTB has served on a Board of

Directors of two (2) other banks located in Washington.

W. D. McLaughlin, i

the Board of Directors of Farmers

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PLAINTIFF'S ANSWERS TO INTERVENOR’S INTERROGATORIES

(Ser No. 1)

Interrogatory 14

With respect to paragraph 21 (e) of the Complaint

state whether plaintiff contends that this paragraph, in

and of itself, alleges a violation of §7 of the Clayton

Act; and in further regard to said paragraph identify

by city or county name, zip code numbers, or other rea-

sonable delineation each of the “banking markets in other

parts of eastern. Washington” and state whether you

contend for each such “market” that it is a “section of

the country” within the meaning of §7 of the Clayton

Act, for purposes of this case.

Answer to Interrogatory 14

No. See answer to Interrogatory 15, below.

Interrogatory 15

With respect to paragraph 21(f) of the Complaint

state whether plaintiff contends that this paragraph, in

and of itself, alleges a violation of 7 of the Clayton

Act; and in further regard to said paragraph state

whether you contend that each or any of the “local mar-

kets” referred to constitute a “section of the country”

within the meaning of § 7 of the Clayton Act for pur-

poses of this case.

Answer to Interrogatory 15

No. Plaintiff contends that paragraphs 21(e) and (f)

taken together allege effects in violation of §7 of the

Clayton Act. With respect to paragraph 21 (e), plaintiff

at this time lacks the information necessary to make the

requested geographic delineations. With respect to para-

graphs 21 (e) and (f), the “banking markets” and “local

markets” referred to are “sections of the country” within

the meaning of § 7 of the Clayton Act.

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Interrogatory 16

‘With respect to paragraph 21(g) of the Complaint

state whether plaintiff contends that this paragraph, in

and of itself, alleges a violation of §7 of the Clayton

Act.

Answer to Interrogatory 16

No. See answer to Interrogatory 17, below.

Interrogatory 17

With respect to paragraph 21(h) of the Complaint

state whether plaintiff contends that this paragraph, in

and of itself, alleges a violation of 87 of the Clayton

Act; * ee

Answer to Interrogatory 17

No. Plaintiff contends that paragraphs 21(g) and (h)

taken together all effects in violation of §7 of the

Clayton Act. * * *

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DEPOSITION OF ROBERT F. BuCK TAKEN AUGUST 16, 1972

DIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MR. TORRE:

Q. State your name, please?

A. Robert F. Buck.

Q Your address?

A. 1611 Roanoke Way, Mercer Island, Washington.

Q. Are you employed by the National Bank of Com-

merce?

Q. What is your position?

A. Senior vice-president.

Q. And what are your duties in that capacity?

A. Well, they are multi, but in general I am in charge

of business development for the bank.

Q. And what does that encompass?

A. Well, if I can recall correctly, I have reporting to

me people who operate the BankAmericard, the so-called

Business Development Department, which includes Ad-

vertising, Marketing, Public Affairs, Governmental Rela-

tions, the National Division, the Metropolitan Division,

and in addtion I also have another small truncated opera-

ton called Urban Affairs reporting to me.

Q. Do you serve on any management committees of

the bank?

A. Yes.

Q. Which ones do you serve on?

A. Well, there is only one so-called management com-

mittee on which I serve. There are a number of special

committees on which I serve. Are you interested in them?

Q. Yes.

A. I am Chairman of the BankAmericard Committee,

I am Chairman of the Business Development Committee,

Branch Expansion Committee, I serve ex-officio on the

Budget Committee. There may be some others.

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Q. Are you Chairman of the Branch Expansion Com-

mittee?

A. Yes.

Q. And what are your duties as the Chairman of the

Branch Expansion Committee?

A. Preside over its meetings primarily. But tech-

nically I would assume that I would be responsible for

analyzing and approving the applications of the branches

that we submit to the Comptroller.

Q. What means are available to the National Bank of

Commerce to establish branches?

A. Are you talking about de novo branches?

Q. Yes. Are there other types?

A. Yes, I think there are.

Q. And what are the other types of branches that can

be established?

A. I am not sure I know all of them, but I know we

can acquire branches by purchase, we can establish

branches de novo in certain circumstances within the

limitations of the rather stringent Washington law.

Q. Do you know what that law is?

A. I am not going to be prepared to say I know

exactly. My general recollection is that we can establish

de novo branches inside the City of Seattle, which is the

head office of the bank. We can establish de novo branches

in King County in which the City of Seattle is located, in

unincorporated areas where we can establish facts justify-

ing the bank on economic grounds.

I believe in the rest of the state we are restricted to de

novo branching only in areas that are incorporated in

which there is no bank.

Q. You can acquire banks in order to establish

branches, is that correct?

A. We can buy banks and make them into branches of

our bank as I understand it. .

Q. Can you promote the organization of banks and

their chartering and then acquire them as branches?

A. I don’t know.

Q. Why don’t you know?

A. Because, frankly, I haven’t tried to promote a bank

for the purpose of branching it except in the sense that I

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believe that we would assist independent banks to be

established wherever we felt there was an expectation

that a bank could be established, and we would probably

desire to acquire almost any bank that was established

~ in the State of Washington under circumstances that

would permit us to acquire it because the branching laws

are so restrictive that outside of King County, we have

no way to branch except by acquisition.

Q. If you so assisted the establishment of a bank in

an area where you thought the prospects for a bank were

good, would you seek to insure that you would acquire that

bank at some future time? 2

A. I am sure we would use any legal and fair means

of trying to establish a basis on which we could acquire

it, sure. ö

Q. What means could you use to so insure the acquisi-

tion of a bank that you were promoting?

A. Well, I think that we would certainly offer to assist

them in their organization, give them advice on how to

go about setting up a bank.

We quite possibly would be interested in assisting them

to find management for the bank. We would hope that we

would get the correspondent relationship with such a

bank. In some instances I suppose we might be interested

in making a loan to some of the people who would be

stockholders for the purpose of acquiring their stock.

Q. Would this be used to get leverage or some sort

of relationship with them in order to acquire their stock at

some future time?

A. It depends on what you mean by leverage. I assume

that we would be doing it because we felt that there would

be some advantage. But what is leverage? Leverage is

taking somebody to lunch too.

Q. Has the National Bank of Commerce inspired in-

dividuals to organize a bank and assisted the individuals

in organizing a bank and chartering a bank?

A. Yes.

Q. What bank was this or what banks?

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A. I only know of one, and I am not sure whether we

inspired it, but we certainly assisted the Columbia Center

National Bank in Kennewick.

Q. Was it the intention of management of the National

Bank of Commerce at the time it sponsored or assisted or

promoted or inspired such a bank to be organized and

chartered to eventually acquire that bank?

A. Well, within my qualification to answer for the

management of the bank, which is strictly limited, I

really don’t know what the president of the bank or chief

executive officer had in mind. I am a very competitive

individual and I certainly hoped that we would be able

to acquire the bank.

Q. Do you know of other banks in the State of Wash-

ington that have established branches by promoting or

sponsoring the creation of banks and subsequently acquir-

ing them?

A. Ihave had no direct knowledge of that.

Q. When you say you have no direct knowledge, what

do you mean by that?

A. Well, I have heard rumors that this has been done,

but I did not participate and I have never talked to any-

body who admitted that he had done it, so I frankly have

nothing but general gossip as to the subject.

Q. Do these sources of information lead you to be-

lieve that other banks have done it?

A. I am not—I don’t know that they have. I know

that there is speculation that they may have, but I don’t

know what the facts were, so it’s very difficult for me

to say.

Q. Was the assistance of the National Bank of Com-

merce that was given to the Columbia Center National

Bank promoters done with the knowledge and consent of

the Comptroller of the Currency?

A. Well, I don’t really know what he knew. He knew

certain things that we were doing to assist the establish-

ment of the bank.

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Q. Did you have meetings with officials of the office

of the Comptroller of the Currency regarding this matter?

MR. MOEN: Pardon me, Counsel, are you referring

THE WITNESS: The representatives you say?

Q. (By Mr. Torre) Representatives for the Comp-

troller himself or his subordinates.

A. I never talked to the Comptroller. I believe I

talked to some people from the Comptroller’s office in

Portland on the telephone. I am not really sure whether

I ever visited with them in person. I have been in the

Comptroller’s office in Portland on a couple of occasions,

but I really believe they were on behalf of branches of

our bank and not in connection with this.

Q. What role did you play in the organization of the

Columbia Center National Bank?

A. Well, let’s see, why don’t you give me some par-

ticulars? This was a process that took a number of years,

and I am not—and I was involved in consultations about

the subject on many occasions, But what is it that you

particularly want?

Q. Generally speaking, what did you do with regard

to

A. I assisted in their search for a manager for one

thing, I assisted in the effort to provide the economic

justification for the branch, I think I discussed with

Mr. Loney people who would be useful in the community

in terms of their becoming directors and providing busi-

ness to the bank.

I believe I went over the articles and by-laws, the forms

and procedures that they submitted to the Comptroller.

I guess you would say I was involved in a good deal of it.

Q. Did you assemble and help draft the application for

the charter?

A. I did not, but I am not sure but what some of our

people helped on it.

Q. Did you review that charter application before it

went to the Comptroller of the Currency?

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A. I think I did the second one, but I am not sure

about the first one.

Q. For the record would you identify who Mr. Loney

is?

A. Chairman of the Board of the Columbia Center

National Bank. ö 7

Q. Was he the primary organizer of that bank or

promoter?

A. I believe so.

Q. Would it be fair to characterize your position vis-

a-vis the National Bank of Commerce from the Colum-

bia Center National Bank as liaison in this organizational

process?

A. I think so.

Q. Did you have veto power over any of the actions

taken in the organization of that bank by the organizers?

A. Certainly not.

Q. Would they come to you for advice on a regular

basis in their process of organization and chartering?

A. I don’t think that there was any regular basis, but

when Mr. Loney had questions, he occasionally called and

wrote about it. I think he probably visited the bank and

talked to me on a couple of occasions.

Q. Would you explain the process and the procedure

that was involved in organizing the Columbia Center Na-

tional Bank and what the National Bank of Commerce

did precisely to assist in its organization, specifically,

property, building, facilities, equipment, management?

A. Well, you are gong to have to refresh my memory

on some of these as we go along.

Q. What did they do with regard to the land upon

which the bank was to be built?

A. Well, we have to go back to how this all came

about, I guess. Although I didn’t personally discuss it,

my understanding is that we were approached by Allied

Stores or Realbon, which I believe is a real estate devel-

opment affiliate of Allied Stores, which was the developer

of the Columbia Center Shopping Center to establish a

branch in that bank—pardon me, that shopping center,

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and my recollection further is that we probably explored

whether it could be a branch and came to the conclusion

that it could not be a branch unless they went ahead and

organized the community as a city, and after this was

done, and I don’t really know when I came into the pic-

ture, but I believe this had all been explored coinciden-

tally with the time that the establishment of an independ-

ent bank was contemplated.

Q. You mentioned that the National Bank of Com-

merce could branch if the area was organized into a city;

was any thought given to promoting that idea?

A. I have no personal knowledge that it was, but on—

I believe that it was from conversations that I have heard.

I did not participate in it as far as I know.

Q. Who would have knowledge with regard to this?

A. I suspect the people in Allied Stores explored this

because we undoubtedly told them that we couldn’t branch

unless this was an incorporated area.

Q. After Allied Stores came to you, that is the Na-

tional Bank of Commerce, what did the bank do once it

determined it could not branch de novo into the area in

which the Allied Stores wanted a branch of your bank

located?

A. I don’t know who approached Mr. Loney or whether

he approved us or whether others in the Tri-Cities com-

munity approached us because these plans were general

knowledge in the community. It’s a new area and a

number of banks have been formed de novo in that area.

So I honestly can’t tell you whether Mr. Loney approached

us after discussions with others over there or whether

we conceived the idea of trying to get a bank established

in the area. But in any event, I did discuss it on a num-

ber of occasions with Mr. Loney.

Q. You mentioned that a number of banks had been

organized in the area, what banks were these?

A. Well, I think specifically the Bank of Richland, the

Bank of Kennewick were both formed in the post-War

years, and this is almost by definition true because there

was almost literally nothing there until the War.

Q. Were any banks formed since 1960?

A. I don’t know.

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Q. The banks you mentioned, are they still existing as

independent banks or have they been acquired by other

banks? :

A. I believe they have been acquired.

Q. Who have they been acquired by?

A. The Bank of Richland I believe by the Old Na-

tional Bank in Spokane, I don’t know who acquired the

other one, the Bank of Kennewick.

Q. Do you have any reason to believe that the Bank

of Richland was sponsored by the Old National Bank of

Spokane?

A. No personal knowledge, but again it’s a matter of

gossip.

Q. A matter of gossip that it was sponsored?

A. Yes.

Q. If we will continue with the assistance that was

given by the NB of C in establishing the bank, what did

they do as far as acquiring the land on which to build

the bank?

A. They never did acquire it. You have to remem-

ber that Allied Stores was not interested in a little ordi-

nary independent Bank with no financial security and no

expertise in that kind of a shopping center. It was their

intention to make this the premier shopping center of

Southeastern Washington, and they obviously approached

us because they thought from the experience that they had

in establishing shopping centers in King County that a

bank of our size would be interested in being in this kind

of a shopping center, and obviously, we would have been.

But they were not at all interested in having just an or-

dinary community bank I think in that shopping center

because they wanted financial assurance that whoever

signed that lease was going to be responsible, and they

wanted to have a kind of a building built that would be a

credit to the shopping center and would be the kind of a

building that everybody else was going to have to build

if they were going to be a tenant. This was one of the

problems in establishing an independent bank, which by

definition might have problems in meeting the financial

commitments of that kind of a buildnig.

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So it is my understanding that—well, I don’t know who

is the lessee, whether it is an affiliate of the National

Bank of Commerce and then there is a sub-lease to the

Columbia Center National Bank, but I believe it is, so

that in some way we are on the hook.

Q. There is a ground lease, is that correct?

A. Yes, there is a ground | „but I say I am not

sure exactly to whom it is, whether it is the King County

Building Corporation, which is a subsidiary of Marine

Bancorporation as the National Bank of Commerce is or

how that was done. But I am quite sure they wanted some

assurance that we were going to provide some muscle to

this entity, and we did.

Q. Who would know the details of the arrangements

involved in the lease, who were the parties on the lease

and so forth?

A. Well, that would be in our files.

Q. Was there any provision, to your knowledge, writ-

ten in the lease with regard to exclusivity, that is, that

the Columbia Center National Bank or the National

Bank of Commerce would be the only bank permitted in

Columbia Center?

A. I don’t know. I don’t remember reviewing the

lease, but.my belief would be that there was not because

I think they were aware of the fact they can’t do that.

Q. Who financed and built the building for the Colum-

bia Center National Bank?

A. If it was the King County Building Corporation

that was the ground lessee, then I believe they did and

then entered into a lease agreement with the Columbia

Center National Bank.

Q. Who is the King County Building Company, who

are they?

A. This is—I believe the name has been changed re-

cently, but at that time it was a wholly owned sub-

sidiary of the Marine Bancorporation.

Q. What is its new name?

A. I don’t know, it’s Commerce something, but—that

can be supplied.

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A. Yes.

Q. Was it necessary for you acting as liaison for the

National Bank of Commerce to give assurances to the

Comptroller of the Currency that you stood behind and

intended perhaps at a future time to acquire the Colum-

bia Center National Bank?

A. You have got two questions there.

Q. Well, let’s take the first one—

MR. HARTMAN: You have got three questions, the

necessity of it all.

THE WITNESS: What is the question now?

MR. TORRE: I will break it down.

Q. (By Mr. Torre) In your role as liaison for the

National Bank of Commerce to the Columbia Center Na-

tional Bank, was it also necessary for you to make known

the intention of the bank, the National Bank of Com-

merce, to stand behind Columbia Center National Bank?

A. We gave the Comptroller indirectly through his

regional office assurances that we would supply manage-

ment and that we would supply all assistance that might

be required to make this a viable, independent bank.

Q. Did you indicate to him that you had hopes of

eventually acquiring this bank as a branch?

A. I wouldn’t be surprised. I don’t think that is a

secret. We have ambitions to acquire anything we can

acquire.

Q. Do you have a ball park figure on what the overall

cost to the National Bank of Commerce was in this whole

process of organizing, chartering and helping to operate

the Columbia Center National Bank?

A. I have a recollection that the building cost some-

thing in excess of a quarter million dollars, but indirect

expenses, I have no knowledge of.

Q. Could you estimate?

A. No, I have no way of knowing. How do you charge

my time and people’s time?

Q. How would you compare the cost of organizing that

kind of a bank as opposed to establishing a branch office

de novo in a similar location where you could establish

a branch de novo? Let’s assume you could establish a

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branch de novo, how would you compare that cost with the

cost of sponsoring a bank?

A. Substantially less.

Q. Substantially less?

A. Yes. The cost of establishing a de novo branch

would be substantially less because, obviously, you don’t

have to go through all the legal steps of incorporating,

selling stock and a lot of things that were done. We

didn’t do them, but somebody did.

Q. Did you assume the cost of issuing stock for Colum-

bia Center National Bank?

A. No.

Q. Did you give loans to people to buy the stock in the

Columbia Center National Bank?

A. I never did. I honestly don’t know.

Q. By you I mean the National Bank of Commerce.

A. I don’t know. I was not involved in considera-

tion of any loan for that purpose to the best of my

recollection.

Q. Do you know who was, if anyone was?

A. I don’t know that anyone was, so I don’t have

any recollection that anybody was.

Q. Did the bank—

A. Wait a minute, I believe we may have assisted

Mr. Horning to acquire some stock, who is the president

of the bank.

Q. And how did you assist Mr. Horning in acquiring

some stock?

A. I am not sure that we did. I said I believe we

may have made him a loan to acquire some stock.

Q. Do you know if the bank indirectly assisted in-

dividuals to get loans to purchase the stock from other

financial institutions?

A. No, I don’t know that they did. These stockholders

were men of mostly independent means and they may

have arranged for credit in various places, and in fact,

some of them may have borrowed the money from some

of our branches, but I was not involved in it and I don’t

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Q. The National Bank of Commerce assumed the costs

of leasing the land and building the building for the

Columbia Center National Bank, is that correct?

A. The King County Building Corporation, I believe,

not the bank.

Q. The King County Building Corporation was a

subsidiary of the Bancorporation?

A. Yes,

Q. The National Bank of Commerce would have to

do the same thing if it were going to establish a branch,

is that correct, they would have leased the land or buy

the land, they would have to build the building?

A. Correct.

Q. Would the building be similar to the one built

for the Columbia Center National Bank as the one built

as a branch de novo for the National Bank of Commerce?

A. If it were in that shopping center, it woud have

to meet the specifications of the shopping center de-

veloper, and it would be that kind of a building or they

wouldn’t be there.

Q. Who assumed the cost of the salaries for the

management of the Columbia Center National Bank, was

it paid by the Columbia Center National Bank or was

it paid indirectly by the National Bank of Commerce?

A. Well, Mr. Horning, who is the president of that

bank, was a manager of one of our branches up until

the time that he was elected or selected by the organizer

to be a director or to be the president of the bank. I am

almost positive that we never paid his salary after the

bank was organized because I don’t see how we could.

I 2 the r sad to your question, isn’t it?

you woul ve, of course, to pay the salary

of staffing a branch if you had established a de novo

branch?

A. Yes.

Q. Would you agree that there is less risk involved

in establishing a de novo—strike that.

Would you say that there is less risk involved in

sponsoring a bank and hoping to eventually acquire it as

a branch than in entering de novo on the same site?

A. Yes.

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Q. Is there any reason, Mr. Buck, why the National

Bank of Commerce couldn’t seek to establish branches in

areas where it is not permitted to branch de novo by

sponsoring organizational banks in those areas and

eventually acquiring those banks as branches?

A. Economic reasons.

Q. What are those economic reasons?

A. Well, there aren’t very many places in the state

where there are not already sufficient branches, to be

honest with you. You have to find a very promising

growth situation in order to justify the expense, and

this Columbia Center was one of those very promising

new areas where a whole new community was being

established. So it was an exceptional situation.

MR. HARTMAN: Do you put any time connotation

on the word eventually? Does that mean any time in

the future or does it mean within five years?

MR. TORRE: I will just stand on eventually. I don’t

think it is necessary to qualify it. He answered it.

A. Well, may I say that we have been using this

word “sponsor,” I think we should better have a definition

of what you mean by “sponsor,” because as far as I

am concerned in a state where de novo branches is

almost prohibited, there is certainly nothing illegal in

encouraging the establishment of independent banks

which you might, hope to acquire, and that is what I

call sponsoring. So if we are using the word in the

same sense

Q. Yes, we are.

A. Okay.

Q. We are not contending that it is illegal.

A. No, I understand you are not.

Q. So you would say then if there was an opportunity

in a community presented by prospects of future growth,

that the bank would consider sponsoring a de novo bank?

A. In the terms of assisting in the establishment of

that bank within the legal metes and bounds of what

we can do, why, yes, we would.

Q. Were you ever told by any bank regulatory agency

that this procedure was illegal or improper?

A. Was I? No.

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Q. Was the bank, to your knowledge, ever told that?

A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. Was this question ever raised by the Comptroller

of the Currency to you?

A. No.

Q. In your meetings?

A. No. ;

Q. Mr. Buck, I am going to give you a letter written

December 29, 1967, apparently by yourself to Mr. Dean

W. Loney—

MR. MOEN: What is the date on that?

Q. (By Mr. Torre) December 29, 1967. If you

would look at that and read it over.

(Brief pause.)

A. Okay.

Q. Have you read the document?

A. Yes, sir.

MR. HARTMAN: I haven’t read it yet.

(Brief pause.)

Q. (By Mr. Torre) Did you write this letter, Mr.

Buck?

A. Yes, sir. —

Q. Did you write it in your capacity as vice-presi-

dent for the National Bank of Commerce?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you write it in your capacity as liaison be-

tween the National Bank of Commerce and the Co-

lumbia Center National Bank?

A. Yes.

Q. Is that photocopy a true and accurate copy of the

original letter written by you?

A. It appears to be.

Q. Why was it necessary for you to write that letter?

A. Well, my recollection is that the Comptroller had

denied the original application because—well, I guess

I shan’t say because I don’t know. They don’t give

reasons for denial generally, they just didn’t approve

it, and in trying to ‘assist the organizers, in conversa-

tion with the Comptroller, we ascertained that one of

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the problems was weakness in proposed management, and

so I wrote this letter as a commitment to the Comptroller

to supply certain strengths to this new bank which ap-

parently it didn’t have inside its own resources at the

time.

Q. Prior to the denial by the Comptroller of the first

application submitted, was the National Bank of Com-

merce involved in assisting in the organization of the

Bank?

A. Well, the time Sequence is so long that I don’t

know to what degree we were. I would have to say we

were involved, but certainly not as we were later on

under this one.

MR. HARTMAN: Have you made this a deposition

exhibit yet?

MR. TORRE: I will in due course.

MR. HARTMAN: I thought I missed something.

MR. TORRE: We will have it attached to the deposi-

tion and identified as Buck Exhibit No. 1.

(Buck Deposition Exhibit No. 1 marked for identifi-

cation by the reporter.)

Q. (By Mr. Torre) I will give you a document now,

a letter dated January 8, 1968, to Mr. Kenneth W.

Leaf, Regional Administrator of the National Banks,

Portland, Oregon, from Mr. Dean Loney, and we will

have this marked as Buck Exhibit No. 2, and I will

ask you to read that and focus your attention on the

third paragraph of that letter.

(Buck Deposition Exhibit No. 2 marked for identifi-

cation by the reporter.)

(Brief pause.)

A. Okay. That is the one that begins, “We further

wish—”’

Q. The paragraph, “We further wish to call your

attention—”

A. Yes.

Q. Does the letter referred to in the third paragraph

of Buck Exhibit No. 2 refer to the letter identified in

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the record as Buck Exhibit No. 1 that you just ex-

amined and identified?

A. I can’t absolutely state that it does because there

is no copy of it attached, but I assume it does.

Q. Directing your attention to the upper right-hand

corner of the letter, Mr. Buck, would you please identify,

if you can, the initials?

A. Andrew Price and Robert F. Buck.

MR. HARTMAN: You are referring to the third

paragraph of the January 8 letter?

MR. TORRE: That’s right, “We further wish to call

to your attention the attached copy of the letter—”

MR. HARTMAN: Okay.

THE WITNESS: Maybe that’s the fourth paragraph.

MR. TORRE: I am sorry.

Q. (By Mr. Torre) Do you have any reason to be-

lieve that the letter referred to is not the letter you

examined?

A. No, the letter was for the purpose—

Q. Of advising the Comptroller—

A. —of advising the Comptroller we would assist

these people.

Q. Mr. Buck, I show you now a letter dated J uly

12, 1968, which we will identify for the record as Buck

Exhibit No. 3. It is a letter addressed to you by Mr.

Dean Loney; would you please examine that?

(Buck Deposition Exhibit No. 3 marked for identifi-

cation by the reporter.)

Q. (By Mr. Torre) Do you recognize that letter,

Mr. Buck?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. - Was it received by you from Mr. Loney?

A. Yes.

Q. Could you identify the marginal notations as being

yours?

A. Well, they appear to be.

Q. I realize that copy is not the best, but if you

could try—

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A. It looks like my handwriting. I don’t have any

present recollection of writing it, but it looks like my

handwriting.

Q. Can you read it?

A. Yes, I can read some of it.

Q. Well, the first paragraph of the letter, “This

letter is written following the meeting with Frank Abers-

feller and Jim Dunham in Seattle on Thursday, July

11.” Would you please identify those two individuals?

A. Mr. Abersfeller is in charge of Correspondent

Banking relationships for the bank, and Mr. Dunham,

he’s in our Bank Property Administration Division.

“ Q. What were their duties with regard to the Co-

lumbia Center National Bank that necessitated their

meeting with Mr. Loney?

A. Well, Mr. Abersfeller in the Correspondent Bank-

ing Division would perform his liaison function with

organizers of banks with whom we expected to become

a correspondent, and Mr. Dunham in this case I believe

was involved because of the construction of the building

at Columbia Center.

Q. Directing your attention to the Paragraph No.

3 at the bottom of the first page, it says, “We need a

clear definition and understanding of the management

responsibilities as between the directors of the unit bank

and the management of the National Bank of Commerce.

For instance, many of the steps taken initially will have

a bearing on the long range operation of the bank many

years after it has changed from a unit bank to a branch

bank. It would seem to make better economic sense that

all plans point to the long range operation rather than

the short term unit operation.”

Did Mr. Loney have reason to believe that the bank

was going to be acquired definitely by the National Bank

of Commerce?

A. Not in my opinion.

Q. Why do you think they referred to the bank long

after it became a branch, “on the long range operation

of the bank many years after it has changed from a

unit bank to a branch bank”?

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A. Because I think that it is very logical that the

owners—I mean that the incorporators had in mind that

it would become a branch bank. They didn’t really

want over the course of the next indefinite lifetime to

be involved in the management of the bank.

Q. Was he seeking to have the operations of the

Columbia Center National Bank made compatible with

the branch operations of the National Bank of Commerce?

A. Well, you will have to ask him, I don’t know.

I think that since Mr. Horning came from our branch

system and that we agreed to assist these people in

management, that it would have been logical to try and

make it compatible with the thing that we knew how

to do.

Q. Can you read for us your notations below Para-

graph No. 3 at the bottom of the page?

A. I am trying, I believe it says, “We will give all

requested”—which I assume is “requested”, “aid, and

in our opinion any further helpful assistance; manage-

ment will be by officers and directors plus assistance by

NB of C.”

That’s what I seem to have noted, and I assume

those are my notes for a reply to his letter.

Q. The second point, will you read that, please?

A. “We agree to long range planning desirable.”

Q. What do you mean by that? When you wrote

that, what did you mean?

A. I don’t really know, but I assume, and you have

to remember that we admitted that we would like to

acquire this bank, and within that framework, a long

range plan that fitted into our system would be ex-

amined, and I would say that today.

Q. Would you say there is a general understanding

between the bank and its organizers that the bank would

be acquired at some future time?

A. No, I did not.

Q. There was no understanding at all, you say, that

the bank would be acquired?

A. Well, what’s an understanding, is that an agree-

ment?

Q. Well, do you understand by agreement that—

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A. There was no agreement that the bank would be

acquired.

Q. You are saying there was no formal agreement,

written agreement?

A. There was no informal agreement either.

Q. Was the expectation of the National Bank of Com-

merce that they would acquire this bank at some time?

A. Well, what is an expectation?

Q. They hoped.

A. It was our hope that it could be acquired.

Q. Was it the expectation or hope of the organizers

that it would be acquired by the National Bank of

Commerce?

A. Oh, again you going to have to speak to

them.

Q. To your knowledge from reading Mr. Loney’s

letter.

A. I can only say I think they thought it would be

acquired by somebody at some time, but we hoped that

it would be acquired by the National Bank of Commerce

and that the assistance that we were giving to them

in getting it established would add some inducement to

them in addition to whatever the price might be some-

time and make a sale to us.

Q. Do you understand Mr. Loney’s language in Para-

graph No. 3 as being in expectation of an eventual

acquisition by NB of C?

A. Well, it certainly consisted of that, yes.

Q. Mr. Buck, I hand you now a letter—another copy

of a letter, that same letter that you have looked at,

Buck Exhibit No. 3, can you identify the handwriting

in the margins of that letter?

A. No, I cannot.

MR. HARTMAN: Is that the same letter?

MR. TORRE: The same letter, different marginal

notations,

MR. HARTMAN: Why don’t you introduce it?

MR. TORRE: I don’t want to introduce it unless he

can identify it. I only asked if he can identify it.

THE WITNESS: No, I have no idea.

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Q. (By Mr. Torre) Again referring to this letter of

July 12, did you respond to that, do you recall, by letter

or by phone?

A. I don’t recall. If I responded by letter, there

would be a letter in the file, I would assume.

Q. Mr. Buck, I will show you now a document headed,

“Credit Memoranda, Columbia Center National Bank,

Kennewick, Washington,” and it is a series of memo

notations by various individuals. At the bottom of the

first page and the top of the second page is a notation,

“12-21-67,” apparently that is December 21, 1967, with

the initials, R. F. B.“ in capitalizations.

We will have this noted as Buck Exhibit No. 4. Would

you please look at that? That is in that group of docu-

ments.

(Buck Deposition Exhibit No. 4 marked for identifi-

cation by the reporter.)

Q. Directing your attention to the top of the second

page—do you recognize this document or that part of this

document with the initials “R.F.B.” as being authored

by yourself?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And is the R. F. B.“ Robert F. Buck?

A. Yes, right.

Q. Did you write this in the ordinary course of your

business activities as vice-president of the National Bank

of Commerce?

A. I am sure I did.

Q. At the top of the second page it discusses a meet-

ing that you and Mr. Fields had and Mr. Loney and Mr.

Leaf who were in attendance, and it says Mr. Leaf made

it clear to you that it would be desirable to have Messrs.

Sotwell, Funk, Broughton, Hemphill and Carrington ap-

pear as part of the organizing group and not merely

as prospective stockholders.

He also indicated that it would be helpful to have

some explanation of the supporting role of NB of C.

First, would you please identify the individuals named

in that first paragraph? Who is Mr. Fields?

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A. Mr. Fields was the economist that we—I don’t

know whether we—or who contracted with him, but we

at least negotiated in and assisted in obtaining Mr.

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