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IN THE
Supreme Court of the United States
ALBERTO R. GONZALES, ATTORNEY GENERAL,
Petitioner,
V.
LEROY CARHART, ef al.,
Respondents.
On Writ of Certiorari to the
United States Court of Appeals
for the Eighth Circuit
BRIEF OF AMICI CURIAE
UNITED STATES JUSTICE FOUNDATION,
TRADITIONAL VALUES COALITION, CALIFORNIA
REPUBLICAN ASSEMBLY, AND FORMER
CALIFORNIA STATE SENATOR AND CURRENT
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLYMAN RAYMOND S.
HAYNES IN SUPPORT OF PETITIONER
D. COLETTE WILSON *
GARY G. KREEP
UNITED STATES JUSTICE
FOUNDATION
932 “D” St., Suite 3
Ramona, California 92065
(760) 788-6624
* Counsel of Record Counsel for Amici Curiae
QUESTION PRESENTED
Whether, notwithstanding Congress’s determination that a
health exception was unnecessary to preserve the health of
the mother, the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 is
invalid because it lacks a health exception or is otherwise
unconstitutional on its face.
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Fetal Tissue: Is It Being Sold in Violation of
Federal Law?: Hearing Before the Subcomm.
on Health and Environment of the House
Comm. on Commerce, 106th Cong., 2d Sess.
(March 9, 2000), Serial No. 106-104................. passim
Modified Amendment No. 2324 to S. 1692 .......... 7
Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 1999,S.1692.. 5,7
IN THE
Supreme Court of the United States
No. 05-380
ALBERTO R. GONZALES, ATTORNEY GENERAL,
Petitioner,
Vv.
LEROY CARHART, ef a/.,
Respondents.
On Writ of Certiorari to the
United States Court of Appeals
for the Eighth Circuit
BRIEF OF AMICI CURIAE
UNITED STATES JUSTICE FOUNDATION,
TRADITIONAL VALUES COALITION, CALIFORNIA
REPUBLICAN ASSEMBLY, AND FORMER
CALIFORNIA STATE SENATOR AND CURRENT
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLYMAN RAYMOND S.
HAYNES IN SUPPORT OF PETITIONER
STATEMENT OF INTEREST OF AMICI '
Amicus United States Justice Foundation is a 501(c)(3)
non-profit, legal organization founded in 1979 that has
' Pursuant to Rule 37.6, this brief was not authored in whole or in part
by counsel for a party, and no person or entity, other than amici curiae,
has made a monetary contribution to the preparation or submission of this
brief.
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regularly provided testimony on federal and state legislation
involving fundamental conservative principles, including the
constitutional rights of people of faith and in the protection of
the unborn.
Amicus TRADITIONAL VALUES COALITION is the
largest, non-denominational, grassroots church lobby in
America. TVC’s membership of over 43,000 churches
bridges racial and socio-economic barriers and includes most
Christian denominations.
Amicus CALIFORNIA REPUBLICAN ASSEMBLY is
California’s oldest conservative Republican volunteer or-
ganization.
Amicus FORMER CALIFORNIA STATE SENATOR
AND CURRENT CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLYMAN
RAYMOND S. HAYNES has represented 800,000 Califor-
nians in the California Legislature. He was elected in 1994.
In 1996, former Senator Haynes was elected by the Senate
Republican Caucus to serve as Republican Whip. In that
position, he was responsible for generating Republican analy-
ses for the thousands of bills that reach the Senate Floor. He
also served as Chair of the Constitutional Amendments
Committee, Vice Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee,
the Senate Health and Human Services Committee and the
Public Employment and Retirement Committee, along with
being a member of the Budget and Education Committees.
In 2000, Senator Haynes served as the National Chairman
of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a
national bipartisan organization of over 2,500 state legisla-
tors. Assemblyman Haynes represents his constituency in
supporting the Attorney Gencral’s appeal to this Court.
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SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT
The Court should reverse the decision below and uphold
the validity of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003.7
In the course of determining that the partial-birth abortion
method should be banned because it endangers women,
individual members of Congress took into account evidence
that the partial-birth abortion method opens up opportunities
to illegally profit from the sale of fetal parts.
In doing so, Congress specifically came to the conclusion
that a health exception for the mother in the ban on partial-
birth abortions was not only not necessary, but completely
inappropriate.
ARGUMENT
A. If The Partial-Birth Method Is Unsafe, Why Is It
Used?
In passing the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003,
Congress made the express finding that the partial-birth pro-
cedure “is never necessary to preserve the health of a woman,
poses serious risks to a woman’s health, and lies outside the
standard of medical care.”’ As a result, no exception was
made in the ban based on concerns for health of the mother
because no potential harm to the mother exists that would
necessitate this procedure.
Despite pious pronouncements from the abortion industry
of the need for this procedure, all competent medical
evidence shows there is no such need. The question is, why
is the abortion industry putting up such a fight over this
horrendous, dangerous procedure? The answer is greed.
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‘Pub. L. 108-105, § 2, Nov. 5, 2003, 117 Stat. 1201, subpara. (13).
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It must be emphasized that this particular procedure poses
specific risks of harm to women, unique to this method:
“(14) Pursuant to the testimony received during exten-
sive legislative hearings during the 104th, 105th, 107th,
and 108th Congresses, Congress finds and declares that:
“(A) Partial-birth abortion poses serious risks to the
health of a woman undergoing the procedure. Those
risks include, among other things: An increase in a
woman’s risk of suffering from cervical incompetence, a
result of cervical dilation making it difficult or impos-
sible for a woman to successfully carry a subsequent
pregnancy to term; an increased risk of uterine rupture,
abruption, amniotic fluid embolus, and trauma to the
uterus as a result of converting the child to a footling
breech position, a procedure which, according to a
leading obstetrics textbook, ‘there are very few, if any,
indications for * * * other than for delivery of a second
twin’; and a risk of lacerations and secondary hem-
orrhaging due to the doctor blindly forcing a sharp
instrument into the base of the unborn child’s skull while
he or she is lodged in the birth canal, an act which could
result in severe bleeding, brings with it the threat of
shock, and could ultimately result in maternal death.”
In the face of such evidence, one has to wonder—-as mem-
bers of Congress must have—Why would anyone select this
method over other, safer procedures? As the old saying goes,
follow the money. During the time period this law was being
debated and analyzed, Congress heard evidence that the likely
answer is this: In contrast to other, safer methods of late-term
abortion, the partial-birth method affords the greatest oppor-
tunity to profit from the harvest and sale of fetal parts.
* [hid . subpara. (14).
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1. Partial-Birth Method vs. Other Late-Term
Methods.
In a speech before the Senate on October 20, 1999, during
debate over the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 1999,
Senator Bob Smith of New Hampshire described the various
procedures used to terminate pregnancy in the second and
third trimesters. He explained the “advantages” of the partial-
birth method, if the primary goal is to harvest fetal parts:
“Let us talk about dilation and evacuation, the so-called
D&E, for a moment. This method, which is performed
during months 4 to 6, 6 months, is particularly gruesome
in that the doctor must tear out the baby ports with a
pliers-like instrument. Literally disassembles it in the
womb. It is horrible. No wonder they are angry when
they get home and sick, sick before they start. Then the
nurse gruesomely has to take all these body parts of this
child who was torn apart in the womb and reassem-
ble them in a pan to be sure they got it all. That is the
first method.
“I will just ask you to think, as we go through this, if you
are in the business of selling body parts, how is that
going to work with your buyer, if all the body parts are
torn apart? | think you would say, well, probably it isn’t
going to be much good. There might be some tissue, but
if you need intact organs, disassembling the organs
ought to lead vou to believe, reasonably, I think, they are
probably not very good. If you need a liver and it is all
chopped up in this procedure, it is probably not going to
do you much good. So the D&E method is not real good
for selling body parts. But that is one type of abortion.
“The next is the saline abortion. This occurs after the
first trimester. The abortionist injects a strong salt
solution into the amniotic sac and, over a period of an
hour, the baby is basically poisoned and burned to death
in her mother’s womb. That is the saline solution. So
*S. 1692.
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now I ask you again, if you are selling body parts, and
the buyers want good body parts, good condition, that is
not going to do a lot of good. That is not going to make
your product very marketable. That is probably not a
good method either.
“The next one is a little more grotesque, if you can
imagine that. This is called the dig method, or digoxin
method. It is called harpconing the whale inside the
industry. You see, even in the industry they can’t even
be respectful to the child or even the woman in some
cases, the mother. They use terms such as that, “har-
pooning the whale.” The abortionist inserts a needle
containing digoxin into the abdomen of the woman. In
order to make sure the doctor hits the baby and not the
woman, which would be lethal for her as well, he must
watch to see the needle begin moving wildly. And when
it does move wildly, he knows he has harpooned the
whale and can push his needle all the way through and
kill the baby. This abortion procedure is probably the
least desired method for the body parts people because
the baby’s organs are, in essence, liquefied by this
horrible poison. They are basically worthless to the body
parts market.
“Those are three types of abortions. They have nothing
to do with partial-birth abortion. I use these examples of
three types of abortions to show you they basically make
the sale of body parts worthless for the most part. Some
tissue I am sure they can use.
“So where are they getting these things? Ask yourself,
what have we been talking about all day? How can we
get a good specimen, a baby whose organs are intact, a
good cadaver? You can do it two ways. You could have
a live birth and kill it, or you could have a partial-birth
abortion, kill it that way, and damage only the brain so
the rest of the body is good for research.”°
° 145 Cong. Rec. $12919. reproduced at Appendix E. pages 42a-44a.
A long excerpt of Senator Smith's October 20, 1999, speech on the floor
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2. Selling Fetal Parts.
In his speech on October 20, 1999, Senator Smith an-
nounced an intention to offer an amendment to the Partial-
Birth Abortion Ban Act of 1999’ that would have made it
possible to find out whether live births and partial-birth
abortions were being used for the sale of body parts." He also
called for an investigation into whether fetal parts were being
sold in violation of federal law. Although Senator Smith’s
amendment did not pass’, on March 9, 2000, the Committee
on Commerce of the House of Representatives did hold a
subcommittee hearing on the question of “Fetal Tissue: Is It
Being Sold In Violation of Federal Law?”'’ In the course of
that hearing, numerous documents were put into the record as
evidence that fetal tissue from aborted fetuses was indeed
being sold, and at a handsome profit.
Reproduced in the appendix here are several documents
that were presented at the March 2000 House Hearing. Ap-
pendix A, pages |a-10a, is the transcript of an interview
between Dzintra Tuttle, of Life Dynamics, Incorporated, and
“Kelly,” the pseudonym of a person who worked for Ana-
tomic Gift Foundation and Opening Lines, two companies
of the Senate, 145 Cong. Rec. $12909-12920, is reproduced at Appendix
E, pages 36a-59a.
Ӥ. 1692.
* Modified Amendment No. 2324, to provide for certain disclosures
and limitations with respect to the transference of human fetal tissuc.
” It lost 51 to 46, Vote No. 338, 145 Cong. Rec. $12980. That was on
October 21, 1999, the same day the Senate passed the Partial-Birth
Abortion Ban Act of 1999 (S. 1692).
" Fetal Tissue: Is It Being Sold in Violation of Federal Law?: Wearing
Before the Subcomm. on Health and Environment of the House Comm.
on Commerce, 106th Cong., 2d Sess. (March 9, 2000){hereafter “March
2000 House Hearing.”] The entire transcript of the March 2000 House
Hearing. Serial No. 106-104 is available at http:/ origin. www.gpoaccess.
gov chearings’ search. html.
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engaged in the harvesting and selling of parts from aborted
fetuses.'' In the Life Dynamics interview, “Kelly” explained
that in order to obtain the specimens needed by AGF’s or
Opening Lines’ customers, the abortion doctor would alter
the procedure in order to provide a superior specimen:
“Zantra: Do you think the doctor ever altered the pro-
cedures to get you the type of specimens you needed for
that day?
“Kelly: Yes, every day. When we would go in to do
procedures, the doctor would come in, along with his
nurse, and they would want to see the list of what we
were going to procure and what we needed. Then he
would basically get us the most complete, intact
specimen that he could get us. And what I mean by that
is that all the limbs, the arms, the head, the chest cavity,
were never invaded. They were all completely intact.
Sometimes if the fetus was—appeared to be dead, but
when you opened up the chest cavity you do see the
heart beating, but they'll be no arms or legs moving.
“Zantra: So they were intentionally altering their type of
procedure to give you an intact specimen, even if that
meant giving you a live specimen?
“Kelly: That’s correct. Just so we could sell better
tissue and more tissue out. So that our company would
make more money. And at the end of the year, they
would actually give the Clinic back more money since
we got good specimens. =
Kelly also described instances in which women had
changed their minds about going through with an abortion—
'' Appendix A is taken from March 2000 House Hearing. at 159-174.
“Kelly” had asked for anonymity at the time of the interview in 1999.
Later, “Kelly” went public and identified himself as lawrence Dean
Alberty, Jr., he was one of the witnesses who testified at the March 2000
House Hearing.
'? Appendix A, p. 6a.
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when they could have safely continued with their preg-
nancies—but the doctor and the clinic staff pressured them
into submitting to the abortion anyway.'* Obviously, if a
woman with a particularly good “specimen” does not go
through with her abortion, the clinic not only loses the profit
from doing the procedure, but the fetal specimen is lost
as well.
On the evening of March 8, 2000, the ABC News show
20/20 presented an exposé entitled, “Parts for Sale; People
Make Thousands of Dollars Off the Sale of Fetal Body
Parts.” Throughout the course of the March 2000 House
Hearing, the 20/20 broadcast was mentioned again and again
by various Congressmen. A transcript of the 20/20 show was
placed into the hearing transcript and is reproduced here
at Appendix B pages 1la-19a.'* Chris Wallace of 20/20
interviewed Dean Alberty, the person who had used the
pseudonym “Kelly” in the Life Dynamics interview:
“Wallace: (VO) Dean Alberty worked for two com-
panies that acted as middle men, getting the fetuses from
abortion clinics and shipping tissue to researchers.
“Mr. Alberty: When I got the fetus, I'd already have a
checklist telling me what specific organs they were
looking for.
“Wallace: (VO) The law allows tissue companies to
recover their costs. This government agency charges
$100 per shipment. But take a look at what one private
company is demanding. Opening Lines put out this price
list: $325 for a spinal cord, $550 for a reproductive
organ, $999 for a brain. Alberty says he helped put
together the price list.
“Is there any way to justify these prices?
'’ Appendix A, p. 9a.
'* Taken from March 2000 House Hearing. at 198-203.
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“Mr. Alberty: No. There is not.
“Wallace: So what does this price represent?
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“Mr. Alberty: That represents greed.
The 20/20 interview made reference to a price list for aborted
fetal parts. That price list was inserted into the hearing trans-
cript and is reproduced here at Appendix C, pages 20a-21a.'°
Also inserted into the hearing transcript was a form letter
from Opening Lines touting its services as “your new source
for quality fetal tissue.” As noted in that letter:
“OPENING LINES was formed to maximize the
utilization of the fresh fetal tissue we process. Our daily
average case volume exceeds 1500 and we serve clinics
across the nation. This means we can provide you with
the exact tissue to meet your needs.
“OPENING LINES obtains and maintains appropriate
confidential consent and basic medical histories for fetal
tissue donation. . .
“We have simplified the process for procunng fetal
tissue. We DO NOT require a copy of your IRB ap-
proval or summary of your research and you ARE NOT
required to site [sic] OPENING LINES as the source of
tissue when you publish your work (we believe in word
of mouth advertising; if you like our services please tell
your colleagues and if you do not[,] notify us and we
will do our best to correct the problem).”"’
During the course of his testimony before the House sub-
committee on March 9, 2000, Mr. Alberty was questioned
about “protocols” he had written for the purpose of training
'S Appendix B. p. 13a-14a. March 2000 House Hearing. at 198-203.
'® Taken from March 2000 House Hearing, at 83-84.
'” Appendix C. pages 22a-23a. March 2000 House Hearing. at 85.
others in fetal recovery procedures. '* These protocols
provide detailed instructions not only in how to cut away and
remove fetal eyes, livers, lungs, glands, and other body parts,
but also specific instructions on packing and shipping. Donor
specifications are listed at 8 to 22+ weeks’ gestation. With
regard to the recovery of an intact fetus, the protocol spe-
cifies: “Make sure Fetus is not alive.”'”
A WORLD Magazine article by Lynn Vincent, dated
October 23, 1999, entitled “The harvest of abortion” was also
placed into the hearing transcript.”” The WORLD article dis-
cussed the more than 50 actual dissection orders or “proto-
cols” obtained by Life Dynamics:
“The protocols detail how requesting researchers want
baby parts cut and shipped: ‘Dissect fetal liver and
thymus and occasional lymph node from fetal cadaver
within 10 (minutes of death).” ‘Arms and legs need not
be intact.” ‘Intact brains preferred, but large pieces of
brain may be usable.” Most researchers want parts
harvested from fetuses 18 to 24 weeks in utero, which
means the largest babies lying in lab pans awaiting a
blade would stretch 10 to 12 inches-from your wrist to
your elbow. Some researchers append a subtle ‘plus’
sign to the ‘24,’ indicating that parts from late-term
babics would be acceptable. Many stipulate ‘no ab-
normalities,’ meaning the baby in question should have
been healthy prior to having her life cut short by ‘in-
trauterine cranial compression’ (crushing of the skull).
On one protocol dated 1991, August J. Sick of San
Diego-based Invitrogen Corporation requested kidneys,
hearts, lungs, livers, spleens, pancreases, skin, smooth
muscle, skeletal muscle and brains from unborn babies
'* Appendix D, 24a-3Sa. taken from March 2000 House Hearing, at 94-
107.
Thid. at 34a, March 2000 House Hearing, at 104.
*’ March 2000 House Hearing. at 220-226; available online at: http:/’
www.worldmag.cony articles’3257.
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of 15-22 weeks gestational age. Mr. Sick wanted ‘5-10
samples of each per month.” WORLD called Mr. Sick to
verify that he had sideed ordered the parts. (He had.)
When WORLD pointed out that Invitrogen’s request of
up to 100 samples per month would mean a lot of dead
babies, Mr. Sick-sounding quite shaken-quickly aborted
the interview.”*!
B. Women’s “Health” or Abortionists’ Hypocrisy?
Ultimately, the March 2000, House Hearing was incon-
clusive on the question presented—whether fetal tissue was
indeed being sold in direct violation of federal law. In his
closing remarks, Congressman Coburn stated:
“I think what we’ve seen is we’ve seen some credible
witnesses and some whose story is not consistent. It is
my hope that we can work with the minority to try to
discern what is and is not worth pursuing on this and
move in a way where we can find the truth for the
American public. It is my deep concern that somebody
has made money selling baby parts. To me that is
abhorrent. I believe that is abhorrent to every Member
of this body.”
The evidence reviewed by the Committee concerning har-
vesting and selling of fetal parts was no doubt repugnant to
many members of Congress. And that evidence only sub-
stantiated the charge made by Senator Bob Smith in his
October 20, 1999, speech: “So where are they getting these
things? Ask yourself, what have we been talking about all
day? How can we get a good specimen, a baby whose organs
are intact, a good cadaver? You can do it two ways. You
could have a live birth and kill it, or you could have a partial-
”" Thid.
°° March 2000 House Hearing, at 324.
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birth abortion, kill it that way, and damage only the brain so
the rest of the body is good for research.”*”
While it may not have been provable to the same degree as
the findings that this method can be harmful to women, many
in Congress were nevertheless convinced that there is an on-
going black market in fetal parts, and the partial birth
abortion method just happens to be the best means to exploit
it. It was undoubtedly enough evidence to cast doubt on the
sincerity of those in the abortion industry who claim that
women “need” this procedure for “health reasons.” In sum,
this evidence discloses a certain hypocrisy on the part of
those in the abortion industry who insist they are only think-
ing of the woman's health in demanding that the partial-birth
procedure must remain available. Certainly some members
of Congress considered this hypocrisy when they voted to
pass a partial-birth abortion ban without a health exception.
CONCLUSION
This Court should reverse the decision below and uphold
the validity of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003.
Respectfully submitted,
DD. COLETTE WILSON *
GARY G. KREEP
UNITED STATES JUSTICE
FOUNDATION
932 “D” St., Suite 3
Ramona, California 92065
(760) 788-6624
* Counsel of Record Counsel for Amici Curiae
** Appendix F, page 44a. 145 Cong. Rec. $12919.
APPENDIX
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APPENDIX A
LIFE DYNAMICS
1999
TRANSCRIBED FROM TAPES FOR:
NATIONAL ABORTION FEDERATION
1755 MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE, N.W.
SUITE 600
WASHINGTON, DC 20036
[160] LIFE DYNAMICS - MAY
MARK: Okay, we're back
You know, one of the things that Life Dynamics does is we
do a lot of spying and infiltration of the abortion industry,
kind of agent provocateur type things. And sometimes people
question why we do that. Even Pro-Life people have been
critical of us for doing that sort of thing.
But the reality is, if you want to beat an opponent, you
better know what they’re all about. We get information di-
rectly out of the abortion industry that we can’t get anywhere
else and that we can then use to go after them with.
You're about to see an interview with one of our spies.
This wo.>an came to us quite some tine ago, very upset over
same things that she had seen in her job in the abortion
industry. I want to tell you now that this is a very difficult
interview to watch, because you're going to hear things that
you probably didn’t know were going on, descriptions of —
it’s not so much gory as it is just kind of heartbreaking and
wrenching to think that our society has come to this point.
[161] Zantra did this interview about a month ago. And it was
very difficult for her to do. And again, it’s going to be very
difficult for you to listen to. But I think if you’re going to be
serious about this, if we're going to be scrious about closing
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down these death camps—and that’s what they are, they are
death camps, this is a holocaust—and if this interview doesn’t
convince you of that, you’re probably not convincable.
So, be forewarned. It’s not pretty. But it’s something that
we all need to listen to.
ZANTRA: To start with, just so that everybody under-
stands, you're real name is not Kelly; is that correct?
KELLY: That’s correct.
ZANTRA: Why don’t you start by telling us how long did
you work for the abortion clinic?
KELLY: Well, for one, | did not work for an abortion
clinic as an employee. | worked for an outside source, hired
with a team, to go in and dissect and procure fetal tissue,
basically to dissect tissue for high-quality sales.
ZANTRA: Okay. So you were actually working for an
outside company that was gathering [162] fetal tissue, but you
were doing this inside the clinics?
KELLY: Right. But we were never employees of the
abortion clinic. What we did was we would have a contract
with an abortion clinic that would allow a certain number of
us to go in there on certain days, and we would procure fetal
tissue for research. We would get a generated list each day to
tell us what tissue researchers, pharmaceutical companies,
universities were looking for. Then we would go and look at
the patient charts.
We had to screen out all the ones we didn’t want. What |
mean by that is that we would not use anything that had
STD’s or fetal anomalies. These had to be the most perfect
specimens we could give the researchers for the best value
that we could sell for.
ZANTRA: What gestational ages were you talking about
fox these babies?
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KELLY: We would look starting at seven weeks all the
way up to 30-plus
ZANTRA: All the way to over 30 weeks gestation, you
were harvesting parts from aborted babies?
[163] KELLY: That’s correct. That's correct. And we—we
were looking anywhere from eyes, livers, brains, thymuses,
and especially cardiac blood, cord blood, the blood from the
liver, even blood from the limbs that we would get from
the veins.
ZANTRA: Now, just a minute ago you said that you had to
screen out all the babies with abnormalities.
KELLY: Right.
ZANTRA: But when you're talking about babies at 30
weeks gestation, wouldn't the majority of these abortions be
for abnormalities?
KELLY: No. I mean there was only probably like 10
percent that had abnormalities. The zest were very healthy
donors. And how we knew that they were healthy was, one,
we would check to see, if they—the mother had any prenatal
care that suggested she had birth defects, if that was the
reason why she was there to have the abortion. But 95 percent
of the time, no, it was just that she was there to get rid of
the baby.
ZANTRA: So how many of the later terms, the ones that
are around 30 weeks or so, would you see in a week?
[164] KELLY: Probably an estimate of 30 or 40 a week.
ZANTRA: Of the late terms?
KELLY: Of the late terms.
ZANTRA: Of the late terms.
KELLY: That's anywhere from 22 weeks all the way up to
30 weeks-plus.
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ZANTRA: Let’s talk a bit about how you worked with the
researchers. You said it was universities and pharmaceutical
companies.
KELLY: That’s correct. And also private contractors who
would—-we would sell them the tissue. They would in turn
collect the sales and then, in turn, sell those sales to other
universities and to other researchers. So basically there was a
high demand every week from universities and pharmaceu-
tical companies throughout the world just to buy fetal tissue.
ZANTRA: How did you get these specimens to the re-
searchers?
KELLY: Every researcher that we sold to had their own
private way they wanted it shipped, whether it was UPS,
FedEx, Airborne or a special courier that they would just
we would take the specimen in a box to the airport and put
[165] it on as regular cargo, and they would pick it up at their
destination.
ZANTRA Do you think these shipping companies knew
that they were transporting aborted baby parts?
KELLY: No. No. All they knew was that it was just human
sales, when it actually wasn’t sales. We're talking sometimes
it would be a completely intact fetus or it might be a batch of
eyes or 30 to 40 livers going out that day or thymuses,
whatever it may be, there was mass quantities of it going out.
ZANTRA: The babies at the clinic, the aborted ones that
you didn’t take parts out of or you didn’t ship the entire body,
how did you dispose of them?
KELLY: If they could, we would usually put it down the
garbage disposal, along with the placenta and the leftover
blood material. And that would just get down the drain.
If it was large enough and wouldn't go down the drain,
they had a special freezer, and we would freeze all the—it
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may be a total of 60 to 70 fetuses in one box, frozen in a
freezer, to be picked up at another time for incineration.
[166] ZANTRA: How is it that you came to be talking to Life
Dynamics? | mean you’re working in this abortion clinic,
gathering fetal parts. It seems like we'd be the last people
you'd want to talk to.
KELLY: Well, when I was working, there was an incident
that came my way. and my staff's way, that there was a set of
twins, at 24 weeks gestation, brought back to us. These twins
were both in pan and they were both alive. Meaning that there
was maybe just a couple of nicks from the tongs that had
pulled them out. But these fetuses, were moving and gasping
for air.
And the doctor came back and basically looked at us and
said, got you some good specimens, twins. And | looked at
him and said, there’s something wrong here. They are
moving. | don’t do this. This ts not in my contract.
ZANTRA: So they just brought you these babies and said,
here, do whatever you want with them?
KELLY: That’s correct. And I told him | would not be any
part of extinguishing their lives. So he basically got a bottle
of sterile water and poured it in the pans until the fluid [167]
ran up to their mouths and nose and basically let them drown
themselves, which didn’t take very long.
And I did not stay in the room to watch that. I left the
room, because | would not watch those fetuses moving.
ZANTRA: So he basically—I mean not basically—what he
did do was kill those babies outside the mother’s wound?
KELLY: That’s correct.
ZANTRA: After they'd been born?
KELLY: That's correct. And then we, staff, did procure
fetal tissue from those, under protest.
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ZANTRA: Do you know how long, it took those babies to
die?
KELLY: No, because we left the room. I would not watch.
And that’s basically when | decided that it was wrong.
Basically, I—1I did not want to be there when that happened.
Because after that incident, there was more times that we had
live births come back to us.
ZANTRA: Really?
KELLY: Sixteen weeks, all the way up to sometimes
even 30 weeks. And the doctor would either break the neck or
take a pair of tongs and [168] basically beat the fetus until it
was dead.
ZANTRA: Do you think the doctor ever altered the
procedures to get you the type of specimens you needed for
that day?
KELLY: Yes, every day. When we would go in to do
procedures, the doctor would come in, along with his nurse,
and they would want to see the list of what we were going to
procure and what we needed. Then he would basically get us
the most complete, intact specimen that he could get us.
And what I mean by that is that all the limbs, the arms, the
head, the chest cavity, were never invaded. They were all
completely intact, Sometimes if the fetus was—appeared to
be dead, but when you opened up the chest cavity you do sce
the heart beating, but there'll no arms or legs moving.
ZANTRA: So they were intentionally altering their type, of
procedure to give you an intact specimen, even if that meant
giving you a live specimen?
KELLY: That’s correct. Just so we could sell better tissue
and more tissue out. So that our company would make
more money. And at the end of the year, they would actually
give the [169] clinic back more money since we got good
specimens.
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ZANTRA: So they were basically trying to keep your
company’s business and maybe get a little extra out of your
company, and that’s why they were changing the procedures
for you?
KELLY: Yes, that’s correct. When you have a second
trimester aborticn, you have to have a certain number of lamb
cells placed in the vagina to dilate the cervix. And that way,
when you go in, after your third-day procedure, and they
would change out these lambs on the third day, they would
pull the lambs, the fetus would come out. But in the motel
rooms, sometimes these lambs would move.
ZANTRA: What are these lambs you're talking about?
KELLY: They're a dilator. They’re made up of some type
of seaweed. They're hard when they go in and they dilate
you, just like you're giving birth. But when they sent these
women to the motel room, because they had to stay in town,
sometimes these lambs would fall out and she would go into
labor and the fetus would expel itself out.
ZANTRA: So these women were basically having a two-
day procedure. And the first day, they were dilated with the
laminaria.
[170] KELLY: Lambs—Lambs.
ZANTRA: And then they'd go to this hotel overnight,
expecting to come back for their abortion the following day?
KELLY: Right. Right.
ZANTRA: But, instead, they'd go into labor?
KELLY: Right.
ZANTRA: In the hotel room?
KELLY: Right. And then they would give us a call, to the
nurse, and the nurse would call the doctor. And they would
go to the motel room and pick up the woman and the fetus.
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ZANTRA: Were these fetuses coming out alive?
KELLY: Yes, they were coming out alive. And they would
bring back the fetus in a bucket, along with the placenta and
the mother. They had to get re-suctioned. So they brought
her back to the clinic. And that’s when they would give us a
call during the night and say, okay, we’ve got a couple of
specimens here for you or we’ve got one specimen.
We would then go, and the specimen would be in a bucket.
And then we would empty it [171] out. And when we knew
that it was alive is when you open up the chest cavity, the
heart was still beating. Sometimes you could even see move-
ment in the bucket. They had to come out alive. There was
no way for those fetuses to be coming out dead. They were
all alive.
And how they maintained them or did they kill them in
there was anybody’s guess. My guess is that they had to kill
them in the bucket or put them in a corner and let them die
slowly.
ZANTRA: Because the doctor had seen how strongly you
reacted to seeing them killed in front of you?
KELLY: That’s correct. That’s correct.
ZANTRA: So he made—
KELLY: He made sure he did not repeat those instances.
But they kept happening anyway. And that’s how I came to
call you guys.
ZANTRA: How did they treat the women who were
coming in for abortions?
KELLY: Well, that would basically depend on the woman
and her attitude. The majority of the time it was not very
pleasant. There was an episode a couple of times that we
would see she [172] wanted to have an abortion one day, but
the second day she came back, and cven though she had the
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lamb cells placed in her, she wanted to keep the baby. but
they would not—they would not do that. They would talk her
out of it, saying, well, we've already placed these lambs.
You're going to have the abortion.
ZANTRA: Did the clinic know she could have been taken
to a hospital and they would have basically been able to—
KELLY: Changed her—-yes.
ZANTRA: —help her continue the pregnancy?
KELLY: Yeah. She was never given that option. She was
always—the patient was always told by the doctor and all
of the staff gathered around, pressuring her to have that
abortion.
ZANTRA: Before they even began the procedures, did you
see any sort of coercing the women into that?
KELLY: Well, when you—-when you're talking about
coercing, you'd have to talk about they’re giving an IV
sedation on the second day, the day that they’re going to have
the procedure. [173] And the IV sedation kind of puts them
into what I call a Nyquil nap. | mean they’re just basically
drowsy. They’re not really thinking for themselves.
So that’s basically how they were coerced into having a
procedure, when you could blatantly hear them in the halls
changing their mind, telling them they didn’t want to have it
done. But they were forced into having it done by giving
more sedation.
ZANTRA: So they would withdraw their consent, but then
the clinic would drug them and--
KELLY: That’s correct.
ZANTRA: —and continue the procedure’?
KELLY: That’s correct.
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ZANTRA: What about, you mentioned in a previous con-
versation the attitude of a lot of the lesbian employees?
KELLY: Right. That kind of had a lot of our staff con-
_ cerned. Once the patient was unconscious, lying on a table,
“some of the women would make comments basically of the
genitalia area—nice tatoo, or this one looks really nice, what
do you think?
[174] ZANTRA: So they were just being generally degrading
to the women?
KELLY: Very degrading to the women that were in there.
ZANTRA: And this is while the women were unconscious?
KELLY: Right, while they’re unconscious, while they
didn’t know what was going on.
ZANTRA: So these employees are walking around, look-
ing at those patients?
KELLY: Right. They were walking around, talking to
them. There has even been episodes where phone numbers
were taken off the charts and people would give them a call
weeks down the road, asking them out for drinks. It was not
uncommon for women or men at the clinic to hit on these
women for dates.
(Commercial.)
MARK: Welcome back.
In the last segment, I told you we'd be having a special
guest join us to discuss the Kelly interview. Before | intro-
duce him, | want to take a moment to make sure you
appreciate what an incredible situation this is. You know,
over the
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ABC NEWS
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SHOW: 20/20 WEDNESDAY (10:00 PM ET)
March 8, 2000, Wednesday
TYPE: Profile
LENGTH: 2170 words
HEADLINE: PARTS FOR SALE; PEOPLE MAKE THOU-
SANDS OF DOLLARS OFF THE SALE OF FETAL BODY
PARTS
ANCHORS: CONNIE CHUNG; CHARLES GIBSON
REPORTERS: CHRIS WALLACE
BODY:
PARTS FOR SALE
CONNIE CHUNG, co-host:
Now, a story we guarantee most of you have never heard
before. The subject is highly charged and controversial.
Behind the scenes of some promising medical research, big
money is being made from the sale of fetal body parts. Chief
correspondent Chris Wallace has been investigating this
story. Chris:
CHRIS WALLACE reporting.
Connie, our hidden camera investigation has found evidence
that some businessmen are trafficking in fetuses. One has
even put out a price list. And there are claims that some are
selling fetuses that women have not even given for research.
Here’s what can happen when something that is supposed to
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be used to spur medical breakthroughs is used instead to
make money.
(VO) It’s a moment too painful to imagine—after getting
radiation treatments for cancer, Cindy Smith, a mother of
five, learned she was pregnant with twins.
[199] Ms. CINDY SMITH: They basically told me that my
chidren were dying inside me, that | was the only thing
keeping them living.
WALLACE: (VO) Cindy decided to end her pregnancy.
She says her only comfort came from signing this consent
form, giving the fetuses to medical researchers, looking into
cures for terrible diseases.
Ms. SMITH: What I wanted to do was make something
positive out of a horrible situation.
WALLACE. (VO) What she didn’t know is that this man
would be making money off her twins.
Dr. MILES JONES: If you have a guy that’s desperate for,
let’s say, a heart, then he’ll pay you whatever you ask.
WALLACE: (VO) His name is Dr. Miles Jones, and he
says he can make big bucks selling human fetuses to
researchers.
Dr. JONES: Let’s say someone needs feet. Feet are real
common. They are not hard to get.
WALLACE: A 20/20 hidden camera investigation has
found a thriving industry in which aborted fetuses women
donate to help medical research are being marketed for
hundreds, even thousands of dollars. We showed what we
found undercover to Arthur Caplan, director of the University
of Pennsylvania Center for Bioethics.
Mr. ARTHUR CAPLAN: That’s trading in body parts,
there’s no doubt about it.
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WALLACE: Turning human fetuses into a commodity.
Mr. CAPLAN: Into a product.
WALLACE: (VO) There’s a demand for fetal tissue, be-
cause doctors believe it may be the key to medical break-
throughs, cures for Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease,
diabetes and other illnesses. Some researchers use fetal cells,
others need whole organs or limbs.
But no one on cither side of the abortion debate wants fetal
research to became an incentive for abortions. So laws have
been passed to draw a clear line. A woman must decide to
have an abortion before she’s approached to donate the fetus.
Abortions can’t be altered to get better specimens. And above
all, tissue can’t be sold for profit. Despite all that, some
businessmen have slipped is and turned human fetuses into
dollars.
Mr. DEAN ALBERTY: This is purely for profit. Every-
thing was about money.
WALLACE: (VO) Dean Alberty worked for two com-
panies that acted as middle men, getting the fetuses front
abortion clinics and shipping tissue to researchers.
Mr. ALBERTY: When | got the fetus. I’d already have a
checklist telling me what specific organs they were look-
ing for.
WALLACE: (VO) The law allows tissue companies to
recover their costs. This government agency charges $100 per
shipment. But take a look at what one private company is
demanding. Opening Lines put [200] our this price list: $325
for a spinal cord, $550 for a reproductive organ, $999 for a
brain. Alberty says he helped put together the price list.
Is there any way to justify these prices?
Mr. ALBERTY: No. There is not.
WALLACE: So what does this price represent?
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Mr. ALBERTY: That represents greed.
WALLACE: (VO) Who runs Opening Lines? Dr. Miles
Jones, the Missouri pathologist whose company handled
Cindy’s fetuses. Last year Jones not only mailed out the price
list, but also this brochure.
“Fresh fetal tissue harvested and shipped to your speci-
fications where and when you need it.”
Mr. ALBERTY: That’s correct.
Dr. JONES: Pleased to meet you.
Unidentified Woman #1: Nice to meet you.
WALLACE: (VO) We wanted to find out for ourselves
how these companies do business. So posing as a prospective
investor, a 20/20 producer met with Dr. Jones, who wanted to
talk over dinner.
Unidentified Producer. What does a brain go for? What
does a kidney or liver go for?
Dr. JONES: It’s market force. It’s what can you sell it for?
WALLACE: (VO) Over lobster bisque and roast duck, Dr.
Jones explained the business of selling human fetuses.
Dr. JONES: We had projections of $50,000 a week. And
you know, some weeks you can hit that and some weeks
you can’t. It’s just a matter of being able to match supply
and demand.
WALLACE: (VO) Dr. Jones said the average specimen
costs him just $50 plus overhead, but that he charges an
average of $250. The law only talks about recovering costs.
But on a single fetus. Jones said he can make $2500.
Dr. JONES: That one fetus—the cost of procuring it is the
same whether you get one kidney or you get two kidneys, a
lung, a brain, a heart. It’s the same cost that you’ve put into it.
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Producer. But you keep charging?
Dr. JONES: Each researcher gets charged.
Producer: And each time that’s just money in the bank?
Dr. JONES: Mm-hmm.
Mr. CAPLAN: It’s flat out buying and selling, flat out
profiteering. It’s flat out saying, ‘I’m going to charge [201]
you whatever you’re going to pay me.’
Dr. JONES: You can’t kill the golden goose but you can
certainly keep it well fed and it will lay lots of eggs for you.
WALLACE: A human fetus as a golden goose. | know
you've been studying this business a long time, but does that
shock even you?
Mr. CAPLAN: That kind of blatant, ‘I’m going to get the
maximum value of mining a fetus,’ is—is—it’s shocking.
Ms. SMITH: Just from a human standpoint, that’s horrific.
WALLACE: (VO) When we told Cindy Smith about Dr.
Jones, she also was upset.
Ms. SMITH: I did not donate that thinking ever that some-
one was going to profit. And that just really bothers me
because that’s not what I intended at all.
WALLACE. (VQ) Alberty says some tissue companies
went even further to boost their revenue. He says both
companies he worked for, Opening Lines, and this firm,
Anatomic Gift Foundation or AGF pressured him to get as
much tissue as possible. And at times even told him to take it
from fetuses women had not donated for research.
Mr. ALBERTY: Miles told me if they’re not looking,
they’re not looking. Why don’t you grab that pancreas? Even
though it wasn’t consented for.
WALLACE: And did you do it?
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Mr. ALBERTY: Yes I did.
WALLACE: (VO) That’s not all. Alberty alleges that
abortions were altered to get better tissue. He says this clinic
in Overland Park, Kansas, normally did early abortions with a
suction machine. But when the fetus was being donated he
says this special syringe was used which experts say puts
women through longer more uncomfortable abortions. Where
did the clinic get the syringes?
AGF was supplying these special syringes to the clinics?
Mr. ROSS CAPS: That’s correct.
WALLACE: (VO) Ross Caps (ph) also worked for AGF.
He and nurses who worked at the clinic confirm that women
donating fetuses were given different abortions.
If the woman didn’t consent, they wouldn’t use the special
syringe?
Mr. CAPS: No. They only used a special syringe if they
knew | wanted the specimen.
WALLACE: (VO) Again, the law says abortions can’t be
altered to get tissue. Alberty who says he was originally pro-
choice, was finally so disturbed by what he saw that he
contacted Life Dynamics, a Texas pro-life group that paid
him $10,000 to be an informant, while he continued to work
in the tissue business. But Alberty denics making up stories to
push a political agenda.
[202] Why should people believe you? Why shouldn't we
believe that there are just some things that you've said that
are part of this movement?
Mr. ALBERTY: I will stand behind my words until I die. |
will go in front of Congress if | have to and testify under oath.
WALLACE: (VO) But Alberty’s allegations are only part
of the story. Some of the most troubling evidence we found
came from our undercover conversation with Dr. Jones. Here
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he explains how easy it is to talk a woman into donating
a fetus.
Dr. JONES: You can do something that’s got all the legal
mumbo-jumbo in it and they'll sign it anyway. If you have
someone trained to ask properly you can get 80, 90 percent
consent rates.
WALLACE: (VQ) His dream, he said, is to run his own
clinic in Mexico where he could get a greater supply of fetal
tissue by offering cheaper abortions.
Dr JONES: You can control the flow. It’s probably the
equivalent of the invention of the assembly line.
WALLACE: (VO) We showed Dr. Jones’ comments to
Congressman Thomas Bliley, Chairman of the House Com-
merce Committee.
Mr. THOMAS BLILEY: Terrible. Just absolutely terrible.
WALLACE: (VO) After hearing allegations of illegal ac-
tivity Bliley’s committee is now investigating four com-
panies. He says he’s found evidence that tissue is being sold
for profit.
Mr. BLILEY: We are interested in that the people who do
this recover their legitimate costs. It appears that it’s more
than that, that it comes down to trafficking in tissue pans, in
body pans.
WALLACE: (VO) Bliley is pro-life, but even the most
ardent pro-choice advocates, like Planned Parenthood
president, Gloria Feldt, are disturbed by what we found.
Ms. GLORIA FELDT: It seems inappropriate. Totally in-
appropriate. Where there is wrongdoing, it should be prose-
cuted. People who are doing that kind of thing should be—
should be brought to justice.
WALLACE: (VO) We wanted to talk with some of these
fetal tissue businessmen. When we called Dr. Jones for an
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interview, he hung up on us. But lames Barely (ph) of AGF,
said his nonprofit company recently got out of the business.
He maintained his fees, which were lower than Jones’, were
reasonable and that AGF never asked anyone to take tissue
without consent. And he suggested Alberty is angry because
AGF sued him over a business dispute.
Did AGF ever encourage doctors to alter the way they did
abortions to get specimens?
Mr. JAMES BARTSLY: No. First of all, that would be
illegal.
WALLACE: (VO) But wasn’t AGF supplying those
special syringes to get better tissue?
Mr. BARTSLY: Yeah. That’s—that’s—that’s the logical
conclusion that you would draw. I don’t believe that was
altering the abortion technique
WALLACE: Doesn't this special syringe add as much as
15 minutes to the length of the abortion?
[203] Mr. BARTSLY: I don’t know.
WALLACE: Oh, sure you did-
Mr. BARTSLY: In some cases, perhaps. It takes longer.
WALLACE: (VO) Bartsly later sent us this letter saying
the Kansas clinic already used syringes and that AGF
provided special ones just to keep tissue sterile. The clinic
finally severed its ties with AGF and later Opening Lines, but
that came too late for Cindy Smith. All she thinks about is
what happened to her twins.
Ms. SMITH: It’s just wrong for someone to be making
money off the dead. | didn’t want somebody to profit off of
my heartache. It makes me almost feel like the one good thing
I did really wasn’t that good after all.
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WALLACE: Tomorrow, a congressional subcommittee
will hold a hearing on fetal tissue trafficking. And Dean
Alberty, the whistleblower from inside the business, will be
the star witness. As for Dr. Miles Jones, he’s been
subpoenaed to testify but has not responded. Investigators say
if he fails to show up, Jones could be held in contempt of
Congress. Charlie:
CHARLES GIBSON, co-host:
Chris, if there are laws on the books on this subject, why is
it still going on? Why hasn’t something been done?
WALLACE: It’s a question we kept asking in this inves-
tigation. We couldn’t find anyone in the federal government
enforcing those laws which is why tomorrow’s hearing is
such an important first step.
GIBSON: All right, Chris Wallace thank you very much.
And we'll be right back.
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APPENDIX C
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Dear “PREFIX” “LAST NAME”
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experienced in the needs of researchers. In 1997 an asso-
ciation between PAL CADP and P L Service led to the largest
single organization providing histopathologic service for
medical facilities providing reproductive choice for women.
OPENING LINES was formed to maximize the utilization
of the fresh fetal tissue we process. Our daily average case
volume exceeds 1500 and we serve clinics across the nation.
This means we can provide you with the exact tissue to mect
your needs.
OPENING LINES obtains and maintains appropriate con-
fidential consent and basic medical histories for fetal tissue
donation. All tissue is harvested and processed in complete
compliance with local, state and federal rules and regulations.
We adhere to all NIH guidelines.
We have simplified the process for procuring fetal tissuc.
We DO NOT require a copy of your IRB approval or sum-
mary of your research and you ARE NOT required to site
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OPENING LINES as the source of tissue when you publish
your work (we believe in word of mouth advertising; if you
like our service please tell your colleagues and if you do not
notify us and we will do our best to correct the problem).
Thank you and watch for our ads in the classified section
of Science. We have a special gift at the end of the year for
the first person who knows the source of all the opening lines.
Miles J. Jones. MD (FCAP), BCFE, BCFM
Prices in effect through December 31 1999
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APPENDIX D
PROTOCOL FOR THE RECOVERY OF EYES
A. DONOR SPECIFICATIONS
1. AGE 15.22 WEEKS
2. GENDER: MALE/FEMALE
B. EYE RECOVERY
1. IDENTIFY THE. EYES
2. USING CURVED IRIS SCISSORS AND A BLUNT
DISSECTION TECHNIQUE EXPOSE THE TENDONS
AND ITS MUSCLE
3. TRANSECT THE MUSCLE IN THE AREA OF
LATERAL, MEDIAL AND INFERIOR LOWER PART OF
THE RECTUS MUSCLES
4. RETURN THE LATERAL SIDE OF THE EYE.
EXPOSE THE OPTIC NERVE
5. USING A CURVED IRUS CUT TO THE BAR
BACK OF THE OPTIC NERVE
6. REMOVE THE EYE BY USING FORCLIPS WITH
TEETH, BY HOLDING ON TO THE OPTIC NERVE OR
RECTUS MUSCLES
7. PLACE THE RECOVERED EYES IN STERILE
DISH TO EXAMINE. IF ARE ANY LACERATIONS TO
THE EYES.
8. IF LACERATIONS ARE ON THE EYES PLASE
SEE RECOVERY SITUATIONS FOR DI VIATIONS.
9. PLACE EYE INTO PROPER MEDIUM RE-
SEARCHER REQUESTS.
10. MAKE SURE SPECIMEN # IS ON THE SPECI-
MEN TUBE AND WRITTEN ON PROPER FORM.
PERI FILM TUBE-PLACE SPECIMEN TUBE INTO ZIP
LOCK BAG WITH RESEARCHER NAME ON BAG.
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TISSUE RECOVERY PROCEDURES
FETAL
I. Notification Of Needed Specimens: The number of
specimens and donor criteria may be limited by the research-
ers. Specimens requested and other relevant procurement
information would be provided by IIAM, usually on the
Monday of each procurement week and on an ongoing basis.
a) Advance Notice—Specimens often requested on
specific date, often by next day delivery (Federal Express),
sometimes same day (e.g. Sonic or Sterling Courier).
b) Ongoing Procurement—Specimens, unusually dif-
ficult to obtain or prepare, accepted by researcher at any time
during business hours or, as in the case with frozen speci-
mens, may be procured and stored at will and shipped on
specific date. Courier arrangements may vary depending on
situation.
Il. Supplies: Usually provided by II[AM and sometimes by
the researcher. Technician is responsible for keeping inven-
tory and for notifying IIAM in a timely manner if any item
shortages. Inventory must be reported to IIAM by end of each
procurement week. By the following Wednesday, the follow-
ing supplies should be on hand:
a) shipping containers—at least 8
b) media—-at least 1200 Mis
—-special media may be required depending on
orders
Cc) specimen containers—at least 75 Falcons (50cc)
for multipurpose use
—at least 20 urine cups (125cc) for large
specimens
~—-at least 20 small, crack resistant containers (6 to
16cc) for storage of frozen specimens
d)
g)
h)
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labels—-Silver Milar Labels (about 200)
—assorted packaging and shipping labels where
appropriate
—address labels
bags—zip-lock bags, equal to number of crack
resistant containers, keeps container and label
together since label will not stick at freezing
temperatures
—I16 “trash bags” used to double-bag ice for
shipments
—10 - 15 “ice bags” to enclose specimen
containers in waterproof environment
paperwork—enough procurement logs and ship-
ping slips for a month, if possible
instruments—at least 5 complete sterile sets
including: 8” thumb forceps, 3 1/2” mouse tooth
forceps, and 4” scissors
—5 individually sterilized pans
ice—wet ice must be on hand for shipping fresh
specimens
—use about 5 lbs per shipment
LN2 Please see Precautions for the use of Liquid
Nitrogen
—Liquid nitrogen dissipates to gas rapidly at
ambient temperatures.
~~Keep at least 2 liters on hand at all times since
freezing is usually “on-going”. Also, frozen
specimens can be stored directly in LN2 until dry
ice is obtained for shipping. NOTE: SNFR (snap
frozen) specimens are particularly valuable.
Allowing LN2 to disepate and the subsequent
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thawing of stored specimens could cost ITAM
hundreds of dollars in service fees.
—LN2—suppliers in local area need to be
established. Can often be obtained by the liter.
j) tape—aimaintain one full roll of masking tape and
one-to two full rolls of clear packaging tape.
4) _Liver—-Gestation 15 to 20 weeks for fresh specimens
and 15 to 24 weeks for SNFR.
Liver need not be intact and crushed fragments are
acceptable. Remove gall bladder and Connective tissues.
5) Lung—Gestation 15 to 22 weeks for fresh specimens.
Relatively large segments or lobes are required. If thoracic
cavity is intact, split chest with scissors and remove heart/
lung enblock by cutting anteriorly through trachea and
esophagus to vertebrae, then, grasping trachea with mouse
tooths and applying tension, carefully separate lungs and
heart with scissors from connective tissues and diaphram.
Remove heart and thymus.
6) Eyes—Gestation 10 to 24 weeks depending on
researcher. Eyes must be intact and specimens over 16 weeks
must appear firm. Remove eyes carefully so as not to
puncture with scissors. The older the gestation, the more
durable the eye. Clean as much muscle and connective tissue
off as possible. Do not be afraid to cut through bone in order
to avoid damage to the specimen.
procure both eyes when possible and specify whether
one or two in records because service fee may be per eye. not
per pair.
7) Pituitary—-Gestation 20 to 24 weeks. See Diagram.
The most difficult to obtain tissue because of its small size
and fragility. Great care must be taken when examining base
of skull. Often times presence of pituitary is a function of
how head is detached from body of fetus during D&E and
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how badly head is crushed. If head remains attached to body,
pituitary will likely be present. Also pit. can remain, even if
head is crushed, if base of skull is intact where optic nerves
enter brain. Pit. is positioned directly in center of small cavity
created by two boney structures as shown:
Because the gland is being used to obtain luteinizing
hormone (LH), it is necessary to determine the sex of the
fetus whenever possible. Therefore as many remains as
necessary should be retained to accomplish this task.
Do not attempt to remove pit. from skull. Instead, put as
much of head as will fit in urine cup and fill to top with RPMI
media. Make sure skull is cracked or split to allow cold media
to contact gland, If you must trim skull to fit specimen
container, do so by removing crown. The presence of other
tissues such as brain is not necessary but may help maintain
integrity of pit. cavity.
8) Tibia—Gestation 20 to 24 weeks. Knee and tibia must
be intact although muscle damage is acceptable. Procure by
using heavy scissors to cut through femur above knee, muck
like above the knee amputation (AKA) performed on adults.
Place one (or two legs if they will fit) in Falcon tube with foot
at top and cover completely with media. As with eyes, specify
one leg or two procured from each donor.
9) Muscle—Gestation 10 to 16 weeks for SNFR. Skele-
tal muscle removed from leg prefered for ease of recovery.
Remove skin, if possible, and procure in conjunction with
kidneys. Amount of muscle should be similar in weight to,
kidneys. It is not necessary nor is it efficient use of time to
dissect out alot of muscle.
10) Brain—Gestation 16 to 24 weeks but the smaller the
better. Important to confirm age via foot length. Brain tissue
must be recovered under sterile conditions.
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11) CNS—7-12 weeks (Ist tri) Special training will be
needed for | st tri procurement.
V. Delivery of Specimens: Most specimens are sent to
researchers via couriers for next day delivery. Some inves-
tigators, either local or out of state, may from time to time
require same day delivery. The official description of package
contents is “blood products (or tissue culture) for medical
”
use”.
Note: Please see General Shipping Instruction!!
a) Packaging; specimen containers are bagged and
set in ice which is doubled bagged.
—specimen labels must be complete with I[AM
number and indicate any history which may be of
interest to researcher.
—all boxes must have address label in addition to
any courier form.
-~—all boxes being prepared for Saturday delivery
via Federal Express must be marked as such and
have “Saturday delivery required” checked on
Fed. Ex. Airbill.
-—Most packages can be left at reception areas for
courier pick-up but be sure to allow at least 1-1/2
to 2 hours before closing.
—Always record airbills, bills of lading, job and
confirmation numbers commonly associated with
couriers. Also retain receipt from courier.
—Always insure contents of package in an
amount of $1,000.00 (or higher if instructed by
1AM.)
Vi. Documentation and Procurement Records: It is impera-
tive that accurate records be maintained, particularly for
billing purposes, but also for problems which may arise later
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concerning a particular procurement. Record keeping also
enables us to evaluate productivity and to make informed
decisions on procurement.
a)
b)
c)
d)
Procurement Log Record ‘AKA’ Shipping Slip:
To be completed during procurement day. Ad-
vance notice will be given on the Monday or
Tuesday proceeding each procurement week for
all needed tissues and their recipient investigators.
When advance notice is given, complete the top
section of one procurement log for each of the
procurement days, keeping in mind that research-
ers are permitted to change their requests at any
time in advance of actual procurement.
Researcher is to receive complete donor informa-
tion on his/her specimens with cach shipment
(Shipping Slip) Copy information pertaining to
that researcher’s specimens form procurement
log. Although do not include the chart number to
protect condidentiality of donor.
IIAM Donor Numbers—consist of a four digit
number corresponding to the number on the IT[AM
Silver Milar label.
The source code for each source where tissue has
been procured from must be documented on pro-
curement log and shipping slip.
You may use the following key letters assigned to various
tissue types:
P=pancreas I=eye
K=kidneys S=stomach
M=muscle G-small intestine
N=lung E=spleen
L=liver D=whole head
H=pituitary/brain O=blood
B=tibia
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For specimens requiring differentiating between one versus
two specimens procured per donor, such as with eyes and
tibia, specimen letter designation must be preceded by a
number 2 to indicate a pair of specimens and left blank when
only one specimen was recovered.
Each source will have its own donor number series so it 1s
not necessary to coordinate numbers between sources. On the
other hand, it is important to maintain numerical continuity
for each source. As an example; if all tissues from a particular
donor are discarded for some reason, that particular donor
number should be reassigned at some point in the near future.
It does not matter if the number is out of order by way of
time, as long as the number is used.
VIII. Preservation: Methods can vary depending on re-
searcher, tissue, or both. IAM was established to allow for
greater flexibility in preservation techniques. For specifics,
technician must consult individual researcher protocol.
a) Fresh Tissues: media will usually be prepared by
the researcher under sterile conditions and may
not contain antibiotics. Be sure to use the correct
media when procuring fresh specimens.
— “Clean” technique—Clean instruments with
water and let dry. One to three sets of instruments
should be adequate if sterility is no factor. Steril-
ize instruments when finished procuring.
~Sterile technique—Sterile set of instruments
must be used for each donor. Use sterile pan or
drape but be aware that drape draws moisture
away from specimen. Keep in mind that failure to
maintain sterile field could jeopardize use of
procured specimens.
b) Frozen Tissues: LN2 is used to snap freeze
specimens. Although dangerously cold. LN2 is
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inert, therefore preferred over methyl butane in a
surgical setting. Use LN2 sparingly as it is
expensive and cumbersome to obtain. LN2 is by
far the easiest and fastest way to freeze tissue and
it is universally accepted by researchers whan
immediate freezing is required. Read and
comprehend LN2 safety procedures thoroughly.
Freezing is used to preserve proteins or hormones
which otherwise break down within minutes from
cessation of blood circulation. Contaminates and
other live cells are instantly destroyed in the freez-
ing process .therefore sterile technique is not re-
quired nor is it desired because it takes more time.
The faster the freezing the better. Some research-
ers may be more strict than others but generally
the technician will have 10-15 minutes of warm
ischemia to freeze.
Once frozen, tissues must be kept cold, cither
within LN2 refrigerator or stored on dry ice. The
later is only possible when dry ice is on hand,
however. Count on ordering dry ice for shipping
specimens once during the week as determined by
technician and researcher (refer to Supply Section
Il i). To be cost effective, try to ship the maximum
number of specimens allowed by researcher.
VIII. Clean Up Work Area: Operating room/anteroom/work
area must be kept in a clean condition. Do so by wiping down
counter and sink and mopping floor. Autoclave all instru-
ments used in procuring tissues after cleaning and wrapping
instruments into individual sets.
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SPECIMEN REJECTION CRITERIA
A. Donor Rejection Criteria
1. Age 8-22+.
2. Gender male/female.
B. Rejections for Feteal Tissue
Human Fecal in with the Fetal material.
IV Drug use.
Had sex with a gay partner.
STD in the past year.
Has received a organ transplant.
Did not sign a consent form.
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PROTOCOL FOR THE RECOVERY OF BONE MARROW
A. Donor Specifications
1. Age 20-22+.
2. Gender male/female.
B. Bone Marrow recovery
1. Identify the lower limbs.
2. Remove all skin & muscle.
3. Using scalpel slice the bones of the Femur in half.
4. Using a blunt dissection technique scrap the inside of
the Femur until all bone marrow is removed.
5. Place all bone marrow in Petri dish to examine.
6. Using Steri Spoon place bone marrow into sterile test
tube, place medium if requested by researcher.
7. Make sure specimen # is on the specimen tube and
written in proper form.
PROCUREMENT PROTOCOL TECHNIQUE FOR
LIVER FOR LN’B
Step 1: und.
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PROTOCOL FOR THE RECOVERY OF INTACT FETUS
A. Donor specifications
Age 8 wks-22+.
2. Gender male/female.
B. Intact Recovery
l.
2.
3.
l.
2.
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Identify the Fetus.
Make sure Fetus is not alive.
Please call support staff if there is a live Fetus, for
steps to take.
If Fetus is intact and not alive, call staff ASAP to
place tissue.
Place specimen in sterile jar with cold RPMI on it.
Until tissue can be placed.
PROTOCOL FOR THE RECOVERY OF
LIVER FRAGMENTS
A. Donor specifications
1. Age 8-22+.
2. Gender male/female.
B. Liver Fragment Recovery
Identify the liver fragments.
Where to look for fragments.
a. Move all tissue to one side.
b. Look under planceter.
c. Look for intestines, the liver may have fragments
attached to it.
d. Turn over all tissues, liver fragments may hide
under blood clots.
. Place all liver fragments in sterile petri dish with lid
on it, so fragments will not dry out.
Remove any blood clots, any foreign material.
Place liver fragment is sterile tube make fragment on
outside of tube.
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6. Place medium to researchers request or freeze in LN?
for the future use.
7. Make sure specimen is on the specimen tube and
written on proper form.
PROTOCOL FOR THE RECOVERY OF LUNG
Donor specifications
1. Age 10-22+.
2. Gender male/female.
Lung Recovery
1. Identify the Thorax region.
2. Using curved iris scissors and a blunt dissection
technique expose the lings, by cutting away the ribs
in order to expose the lungs.
3. Transect the lung at the larynx then transect the lung
at the decending aorta by the diagraph.
4. Remove the lung by holding on to the larynx.
Place the recovered lung in a sterile petri dish to be
examined.
Place lung in proper medium researcher requests.
Make sure specimen # is on the specimen tube and
written on proper form.
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APPENDIXE “
Excerpts from speech by Senator Bob Smith of New
Hampshire on Senate floor, Wednesday, October 20,
1999, during debates on PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTION
BAN ACT of 1999,
* * * *
145 Congressional Record
Mr. SMITH of New Hampshire.
Mr. President, | thank my colleagues, the Senators from
Ohio, Mr. DEWINE, and Alabama, Mr. SESSIONS, for their
kind remarks. It has been a long, long struggle, and we are
still not there yet. It is very frustrating to this Senator, who
initially came to the floor in the mid-1990s, the early 1990s,
in 1994 and 1995, where | found out these kinds of pro-
cedures were occurring, the so-called partial-birth abortions. |
was shocked and | could not believe that in America we
would be doing anything like this. This is America, I thought,
we can’t be killing children inches from birth. It makes
no sense.
So I sought answers and talked to a number of people,
including a nurse who had witnessed them. After getting all
of that information together, | decided to write a bill banning
partial-birth abortions. Here we are. Each time we have
passed it here, it has been vetoed by the President of the
United States, regretfully. | think it has been two or three
times now. There will be another veto coming if we pass it
again. But initially, when we started, we only had 25 to 35
votes on the floor because we were told it was only four or
five times a year. Then we were told it was maybe 15 times a
year. As the years progressed, we found out this is on demand
and is not strictly ior abnormalities at all but, rather, on
demand, for any reason, if a woman chooses to have such
a procedure.
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* * * *
_ According to the American Medical Association, the
partial-birth abortion method is never medically necessary-
never medically necessary. According to the Physicians’
Ad Hoc Coalition for Truth, partial-birth abortion is likened
to infanticide and is considered an extremely dangerous
procedure.
Let me quote from these physicians:
The prolonged manipulation of the cervix introduces a
serious risk of infection and excessive bleeding. Turning
the child inside the womb using forceps risks rupture or
puncture of the uterus, infection, and hemorrhage from
displacing the placenta. Inserting the scissors-a blind
procedure-risks cutting the cervix.
That is one doctor.
Another one says:
Beyond the immediate risks, partial-birth abortion can
undermine a woman's future fertility and compromise
future pregnancies.
Many pro-abortion advocates have publicly stated their
opposition to the partial-birth-abortion technique. Warren
Hern, the author of the Nation’s most widely used textbooks
on late-term abortions, said:
You really can’t defend it. | would dispute any statement
that this is the safest procedure to use.
* * * *
With all that testimony from within the industry-dirty,
yucky, not protecting the health of the mothers-why is it still
going on? Because there is another dirty little secret, and it is
called fetal tissue marketing. We will take a look at this chart.
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I want everybody to see what happens in this dirty little
secret of the abortion industry. | want my colleagues to know
this is the abortion industry in general, but abortion is
abortion. There are different types of abortion. Partial-birth
abortion is what is on the agenda today. But fetal body parts
- marketing is what | am talking about.
A woman comes into an abortion clinic. It could be
Planned Parenthood. She goes into the clinic, and she is
talked to, advised to have an abortion. But what she may or
may not know is that inside that clinic in a little room
somewhere or some office that is not necessarily visible to
her, is the harvester, the wholesaler, the person who is going
to take her baby, cut it into pieces and sell it.
They are going to say: Oh, no, no, no, nobody is selling
any babies. Listen to what I have to say, and then you tell me.
The wholesaler and the harvester is in the clinic. This poor
woman, this mother, this woman who has probably gone
through unimaginable trauma, is now faced with this little
secret because she has to sign a waiver that allows them to
do it.
You have the harvester now who is in that building. Ana-
tomic Gift Foundation, Opening Lines-those are the names of
a couple of the wholesalers.
What happens? We will get into that in a few moments.
But here is the buyer over here. If you are pro-life, you will
be pleased to know, | am sure, that maybe a university in your
State, Government agencies to which you are paying taxes,
pharmaceutical companies, private researchers, and research
organizations are buying body parts.
How does this work?
Here is step |. The buyer orders the fetal body parts from
the wholesaler/harvester. The buyer says: We need a couple
of eyes, or whatever. The abortion clinic provides space for
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the wholesaler and harvester in the clinic where that woman
goes to procure fetal body parts. The wholesaler/harvester
faxes an order to the abortion clinic, faxes an order to the
clinic, and says: We need this, and we need this, and we need
this. The wholesaler’s technician harvests the organs: Skin,
limbs, whatever, from aborted babies.
Now, bear in mind how gruesome this really is. This is the
abortion industry, ladies and gentlemen. Here is a woman
coming into that clinic, thinking she needs an abortion. She is
advised to have it. And these people are sitting around the
room, the harvesters. When they are looking at that woman,
there is a living child there that has not been aborted yet, and
they are placing orders for body parts-placing orders for body
parts-before the child is even dead.
The wholesaler’s technician harvests the organs. Then the
clinic “donates” fetal body parts to the wholesaler/harvester,
who in turn pays the clinic a “site fee” for access to the
aborted babies. Then the wholesaler/harvester “donates” the
fetal body parts to the buyer. The buyer then “reimburses” the
wholesaler/harvester for the cost of retrieving the fetal body
parts. We are going to get into a little more detail on this.
You might say: This is a debate about partial-birth abor-
tion. What does the sale of fetal tissue have to do with partial-
birth abortion?
First, like partial-birth abortions, the selling of fetal tissue
is immoral and uncthical. It is illegal. And it is a repre-
hensible, dirty practice that is going on in the shadows of the
industry. It is a practice | had never even heard of. Again, |
could not believe this was going on. But it is.
Second, it is a practice that very graphically shows how
this industry has gone far beyond the ethical boundaries that
even most pro-choice Americans would find repugnant.
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Third, like partial-birth abortion, the industry has taken the
practice of selling fetal body parts, which is illegal under
Federal criminal law, and created a loophole to allow them to
do it.
In partial-birth abortion, they use the head loophole. In
other words, what I mean by that is: Arms, feet, body, neck,
heart, toes. That is not birth. That is not the baby-until the
head comes into the world. Then it is a baby. Really? It is a
legal mumbo jumbo, as Senator SANTORUM talked about. It
is a bunch of garbage. It makes lawyers around the country
very rich, and it allows these clinics to kill our children.
i am sure the legal team that came up with the head loop-
hole is very proud of themselves, just as we have the fetal
harvesting loophole. In a sense, we call it “donations” or “re-
imbursements” rather than selling parts. They are both loop-
holes to hide the facts.
Stabbing a baby in the back of the head and sucking its
brains out is illegal; it is murder; it is infanticide-whether that
child is sitting in a play pen or whether that child is trying to
exit the birth canal to become a member of this world. But its
head is conveniently, under this stupid legal definition,
“stuck” in the womb. And it is not stuck; it is held there. And
they call it medicine. We have people standing down here
saying: This is medicine. We’re doing this for the health of
the mother. Really?
Let’s go back to the sale of fetal body parts. I have here the
United States Code. Here is what the United States Code
says:
Prohibitions Regarding Human Fetal Tissue.
That is the topic. That is the heading right here in the
United States Code.
Purchase of tissue. It shall be unlawful for any person
to knowingly acquire, receive, or otherwise transfer any
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fetal tissue for valuable consideration if the transfer
affects interstate commerce.
Criminal penalties for such violations.
In general, any person who violates subsection-—
The one I just referenced—
shall be fined in accordance with title 18, U.S. Code, subject
to paragraph 2, or imprisoned for not more than 10 years,
or both.
The term “valuable consideration” does not include rea-
sonable payments associated with the transportation, implan-
tation, processing, preservation, quality control, or storage of
human fetal tissue.
It is against the law, ladies and gentlemen, my fellow
Americans, and colleagues, it is against the law to do this.
And they are doing it every day to our children-every day. So
10 years in jail if you sell human fetal tissue. That was signed
into law, ironically, by President William Jefferson Clinton. It
took effect on June 3, 1993.
But the lawyers went to work, as only lawyers can do.
They found a loophole: How can we sell this tissue, make a
profit at the expense of this poor woman victim, and get it
to research, and hide it all by calling it research? How do we
do that without getting caught and getting our tails thrown
in jail?
That was the question. So they found it in section D(3)
which:
. allows reasonable payments associated with the
transportation, implantation, processing, preservation,
quality control, or storage of human fetal tissuc.
That is the loophole I just read out of the book.
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But because there is no documentation, no disclosure, no
government oversight, this section has become a gigantic
loophole to allow this industry to engage in the illegal traf-
ficking of body parts of fetal tissue without any prosecution.
Mr. President, we need a big beam of light to shine into
this industry, to get into the darkness and find out what is
going on in this for-profit industry. We need some sunshine.
We need it so badly. I am not looking to get into the medical
records of individuals. That is not what I am about. But |
believe if we are going to allow the use of fetal tissue from
aborted fetuses—I mean aborted fetuses for research, which |
believe we should not-if we are, we need at least a minimum
of documentation to ensure this tissue is not being sold in
violation of Federal criminal law.
Is partial-birth abortion used for this? | don’t know. Why
not find out? Let’s shine the light in. Let’s talk about a
few things that might make you think, however, that there is
a link here. Your call. You listen. You make your own
determination.
Let us talk about dilation and evacuation, the so-called
D&E, for a moment. This method, which is performed during
months 4 to 6, 6 months, is particularly gruesome in that
the doctor must tear out the baby parts with a pliers-like
instrument. Literally disassembles it in the womb. It is
horrible. No wonder they are angry when they get home and
sick, sick before they start. Then the nurse gruesomely has to
take all these body parts of this child who was torn apart in
the womb and reassemble them in a pan to be sure they got it
all. That is the first method.
I will just ask you to think, as we go through this, if you are
in the business of selling body parts, how is that going to
work with your buyer, if all the body parts are torn apart? I
think you would say, well, probably it isn’t going to be much
good. There might be some tissue, but if you need intact
organs, disassembling the organs ought to lead you to believe,
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reasonably, | think, they are probably not very good. If you
need a liver and it is all chopped up in this procedure, it is
probably not going to do you much good. So the D&E
method is not real good for selling body parts. But that is one
type of abortion.
The next is the saline abortion. This occurs after the first
trimester. The abortionist injects a strong salt solution into the
amniotic sac and, over a period of an hour, the baby is
basically poisoned and burned to death in her mother’s
womb. That is the saline solution. So now I ask you again, if
you are selling body parts, and the buyers want good body
parts, good condition, that is not going to do a lot of good.
That is not going to make your product very marketable. That
is probably not a good method either.
The next onc is a little more grotesque, if you can imagine
that. This is called the dig method, or digoxin method. It is
called harpooning the whale inside the industry. You see,
even in the industry they can’t even be respectful to the child
or even the woman in some cases, the mother. They use terms
such as that, “harpooning the whale.” The abortionist inserts a
needle containing digoxin into the abdomen of the woman. In
order to make sure the doctor hits the baby and not the
woman, which would be lethal for her as well, he must watch
to see the needle begin moving wildly. And when it does
move wildly, he knows he has harpooned the whale and can
push his needle all the way through and kill the baby. This
abortion procedure is probably the least desired method for
the body parts people because the baby’s organs are, in
essence, liquefied by this horrible poison. They are basically
worthless to the body parts market.
Those are three types of abortions. They have nothing to do
with partial-birth abortion. | use these cxamples of three types
of abortions to show you they basically make the sale of body
parts worthless for the most part. Some tissue I am sure they
can use.
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So where are they getting these things? Ask yourself, what
have we been talking about all day? How can we get a good
specimen, a baby whose organs are intact, a good cadaver?
You can do it two ways. You could have a live birth and kill
it, or you could have a partial-birth abortion, kill it that way,
and damage only the brain so the rest of the body is good
for research.
Now, is this happening? Shine the light in. There are going
to be people who say that I have made this link. I will tell you
right now, I haven’t. | am asking you to shine the light into
this industry. Bring in the sunshine. Let’s look in the clinics.
Let’s find out what is going on. Are they being used? We will
take a look in a few moments at some of the things going on
here. | ask you whether or not you think they might be getting
these parts from some other source of abortion other than
partial-birth abortions. I don’t know. I know one thing. It is a
black market. It is illegal. It is unreported, and it is un-
regulated. If it is the last thing I do before I leave this body, |
will change that. I am going to change that.
The good news is abortion rates are down. That is good.
But the problem is, because they are down and because the
doctors aren't doing them, they have to make it up some-
where. The industry has to make up the money. They have to
make it up. Where do they do that? By selling body parts.
That is where they make it up. It is really the dark side of
the industry.
This is the testimony of a woman who calls herself Kelly, a
fictitious name. Kelly was working and received a service fee
from the Anatomic Gift Foundation, which is the wholesaler,
the harvester, of these organs.
Listen to what Kelly had to say. Kelly fears for her life.
That is why Kelly is a fictitious name and why Kelly is not
being identified.
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“We were never employees of the abortion clinic,” Kelly
explains.
That is when they would sit in the clinic, in this room, and
the lady comes in pregnant.
”“_
“We would have a contract with the clinic... .
Listen very carefully to what I am saying. A woman comes
in. | am sorry. | am confusing the stenographer. | will go
through the quote first and then explain it.
We were never employees of the abortion clinic. We would
have a contract with an abortion clinic that would allow us to
go in to procure fetal tissue for research. We would get a
gencrated list each day to tell us what tissue researchers,
pharmaceuticals and universities were looking for. Then we
would go and look at the particular patient charts. We had to
screen out anyone who had STDs or fetal anomalies. These
had to be the most perfect specimens we could give these
researchers for the best value that we could sell for. Probably
only 10 percent of fetuses were ruled out for anomalies. The
rest were healthy donors.
To capsulate, a woman is in the abortion clinic, and basic-
ally they are eyeing up the source. It is like a hunter going out
and seeing, | guess in this case, a trophy doe rather than a
trophy buck, and saying, there is a good specimen there. |
hope that baby is fairly normal so I can sell the body parts.
And they looked at the patients’ charts while this child was
alive in the womb. This girl might change her mind on
whether to have this abortion, and nobody is helping her
change her mind or asking her if she would like to change her
mind. Oh, no, we have a contract here. We have a patient
chart here. We have somebody looking at her, looking at the
trophy and then saying: Hey, this chart looks real good, this
gal has what we want; she has a normal baby there. My
goodness, a perfect specimen, the most perfect specimen we
could find. So give the researchers the best value we could
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sell for. Her words. Probably only 10 percent of fetuses
were ruled out for anomalies; the rest were healthy donors. So
said Kelly.
Let’s look at a work order. This is a work order. Mailing
address, shipping address, everything. OK. Tissuc, fetal lung;
one or both from the same donor, 12 to 16 weeks. Pres-
ervation: Fresh. Gestation: 12 to 16. Shipping: Wet ice. Con-
straints: No known abnormalities. We don’t want any babies
who have any problems. Obtain tissue under sterile or clean
conditions.
Let me ask you a question, colleagues. In this filthy, dirty,
disgusting business we are talking about, do you really think
you can get a perfect lung, with no cuts and no abnormalities,
by chopping up the child in the womb or putting all of this
poison in the body, in the womb, in the embryonic sack? Or
do you think it might be possible that the best way to get a
normal lung is to bring a child through the birth canal in
perfect condition, damaging only the brain, or perhaps even a
live birth? Oh, you think that would not happen? Well, we
will talk about that in a little while. Oh, yes, it happens.
Look here: “Normal fetal liver.” A normal fetal liver is not
one filled with poison. It is not a liver that has been chopped
up. It is a normal fetal liver. There aren’t too many ways you
can get a normal fetal liver in an abortion clinic. “Dissect
fetal liver and thymus and occasional lymph node from fetal
cadaver within 10 minutes of the time it is extracted, and ship
within 12 hours.” “No abnormal donors.”
There is a whole lot of money in this business, folks. With
abortions down, they will charge a woman anywhere from
$300 to $1,000 for an abortion and make several thousand
dollars on the parts of her child. But she doesn’t get any of
that money, you can bet on that.
Let’s look at another work order. The National Institutes of
Health gets the delivery here. If you are pro-life, you will be
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“pleased” to know they are getting some of this stuff. “I
would prefer tissues without identified anomalies; in partic-
ular, bone anomalies.”
Let’s look at another one. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
I could give you hundreds of these work orders. I am picking
a few of them.
Now, this one is particularly disturbing-as if the others
weren't. Here is the donor criterion on this. We are talking
about whole eyes. Now, the donor criterion is that the child
be “brain dead.” Think about that for a minute. Why would
you put that on there? Are we to assume this child is going to
be delivered to them live?
| assume if a child has been aborted and it is being sold, or
provided, or donated, or whatever it is, to some research
center, we ought to assume it is dead. Well, they are not
assuming it. They are not assuming it at all. They are
directing it: Make sure it is “brain dead.” If anything else is
moving, that is OK. Maybe the heart is beating, and that is
OK. But make sure it is brain dead, noncadaver, and post 4 to
6 hours, any age. Again, no contagious diseases. “Remove
eye with as much nerve”—they go into that. Federal Express-
send it out. That is against the law.
So let’s say a girl walks into a clinic and sits down to wait.
I want to try to paint you a picture of what happens. A girl
walks into a clinic and sits down to wait. A fax comes in, and
the fax contains a list of what body parts are needed for that
day. So here she comes. She still hasn't had the abortion. But
they now have this list-the abortionist perhaps, but I don’t
know; | have not seen this. Perhaps he looks through the glass
window, and maybe there is a one-way glass. He looks out
into the waiting room and stares at her stomach and knows
this is the very same child who is very much alive now,
perhaps even moving and kicking; he knows that child will be
dead in a few moments, and they already have the work
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order. They have already checked the charts, already know it
is normal; they already know what they need. They are
already planning it all.
If that is not sick, if that doesn’t bother you, then, man,
there is something wrong with the people in this country-big-
time wrong.
After her abortion, in a matter of 10 minutes, if it is done
then, that baby can be shipped on wet ice to researchers
across the country, just like going into a supermarket and
buying a piece of meat.
There are four illegal and immoral things happening with
this issue. First, as I said before, current law prohibits re-
ceiving any consideration, valuable consideration, from the
tissue of aborted children for research purposes. This is
happening. So that is wrong. Violation No. 1.
Secondly, it has been reported that, in fact, live births are
occurring at these clinics. Oh, that is a dirty little secret we
don’t want anybody to talk about. Let’s not talk about that. It
doesn’t happen a lot, but in 100 abortions it could be as few
as 5, 6, maybe 7, maybe 10 times-live births. Oh, boy, that is
a real problem. What better way to get a good sample than a
live birth?
It is the law of every State to make every medical effort to
save the life of that child. | am going to show you proof that
that isn’t done. It is not happening in every case.
Thirdly, our tax dollars are being used to fund Planned
Parenthood on the one end to kill the children, and NIH on
the other end to do research on them. If you are pro-life, as I
am, you won’t like it; I don’t like it. I am going to do
something about it if it is humanly possible.
In 1996, Planned Parenthood received $158 million in
taxpayer dollars. Who knows how much in addition is being
funneled through the valuable consideration loophole from
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NIH research labs. The taxpayers and Congress deserve an
answer. The chart shows Federal funds supporting Planned
Parenthood Federation of America and its affiliates, in fiscal
year 1994, $120 million; in 1995, $120 million; in 1996, $123
million. Add it all together. It is $158 million.
The fetal body parts industry is a big business, ladies and
gentlemen, and it is not being honest. Mothers are not being
given their consent forms sometimes. Sometimes they are.
And the wholesalers are not forthright about how they ship
the babies, among other things. These people are in the
business of selling dead humans, so I guess maybe we should
not expect too much in terms of ethics.
There are two statutes that govern fetal tissue research, and
both statutes were passed as part of S. | in 1993, the National
Institutes of Health and Revitalization Act of 1993. I was one
of four Senators who voted no, as usual, because I don’t
believe Government should be doing any research on induced
abortions, aborted fetuses. Up until 1992, we had a President,
George Bush, who agreed. But Bill Clinton changed all of
that. But even President Clinton, who signed the fetal tissue
research Executive order as one of the first acts of his
Presidency, was unwilling to accept the sale of fetal tissues.
Prior to 1993, there was a moratorium prohibiting Federal
funding of fetal tissue research. That was overturned by
President Clinton by Executive order on January 22, 1993.
And Senator KENNEDY introduced S. | to codify Clinton’s
Executive order. Part of that was because this “statute permits
the National Research Institutes to conduct support research
on the transplantation of human fetal tissue for therapeutic
purposes.” The source of the tissue may be from an abortion
where the informed consent of the donor is granted. This
statute allows for Federal money to be used in fetal tissue
research. And you will sce that NIH is involved in this.
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The second statute made it unlawful! to transfer any human
fetal tissue for valuable consideration. | talked about this
statute. In other words, it is illegal to give monetary value to
the various body parts being sold. And it is illegal to profit
from the sale. The guilty receive fines and imprisonment for
not more than 10 years. As long as the tissue is donated, it is
OK. But large amounts of cash are changing hands.
Again, abortion clinics and the wholesalers are making a
killing-that is a sick pun, a killing-literally with the abortion
and with the sale of human baby parts.
Listen to what one of the leaders of fetal body parts
marketing said in an interview with a pro-life publication:
“Nearly 75 percent of the women who chose abortion agree to
donate the fetal tissue.”
Granted, this organization claims to only operate out of two
abortion clinics. But if you apply their statistic nationwide,
for theoretical purposes, you are talking about a lot of aborted
babies being sold for cold, hard cash.
In addition, the consulting firm of Frost & Sullivan re-
cently reported that the worldwide market for sale in tissue
cultures brought in nearly $428 million in 1996, and they
predict that market will continue to expand and will grow at
an annual rate of 13.5 percent a year, and by 2002 will be
worth nearly $1 billion. That is a whole lot of money at the
expense of these unfortunate women.
In a taped conversation with the wholesaler, she says they
do not buy the tissue. That is the way it works. That is really
what happens.
In a taped conversation with another marketer of fetal body
parts, they admit to try to get abortion clinics to alter pro-
cedures to get better tissue, which is a violation of Federal
law. This person then offers discounts for being a “high vol-
ume” user, and that the buyer can save money by purchasing
their cost-effective, lower-range product.
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Let’s look now at a chart offered by Opening Lines, and
you tell me if this isn’t a business transaction for profit. Bear
in mind the sale of body parts is illegal. You are not supposed
to receive any consideration. Well, then maybe you could tell
me why-this is one of those wholesalers, Opening Lines.
Maybe you could tell me why they have a price list. Has
anybody ever done any marketing before?
Look. You can get a kidney for $125. You can get a spinal
cord for $325. Then down at the bottom, it says prices in
effect through December 31, 1999. That is a price list, ladies
and gentlemen. I suppose there will be somebody who will
come down here and say, “Well, Senator, that is not a price
list. That is fee-for-service.”
That is what it says at the top.
What is the service? You say: Well, you know it is ex-
pensive. You have to take the brain out, or you have to take
the spinal cord out. OK. We take the spinal cord out. I am not
a doctor. | am not going to pretend to be. | am not going to
make any reference to how difficult that might be.
But let’s assume to remove a spinal cord from a child is a
difficult operation. They are charging $325 for the spinal
cord. | would think it would be safe to assume-I am not a
doctor, but if you want to send an intact cadaver, that doesn’t
involve any research at all. Does it? They don’t have to cut
anything. We will just ship that along. But it cost $600. It
doesn’t have anything to do with what the service is in terms
of finding the spinal cord and getting it out. It has nothing to
do with it at all.
I wil! tell you why this is $600-the cadaver. Because when
they get the cadaver; they can get the spinal cord; they can get
the eyes; they can get the nose; they can get the ears; they can
get the liver; they can get the thyroid, whatever they want.
That is why it is $600. That is why the price list is there. You
can even get a discount if you buy enough.
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This is a dirty business. It is bad. It stinks.
The brochure boasts that it offers researchers “the highest
quality, most affordable and freshest tissue prepared to your
specifications and delivered in the quantities you need when
you need it.”
Here is the copy of the brochure. I didn’t make it up. This
is their brochure, Opening Lines. This is what they said.
Think about it. “We are professionally staffed and di-
rected,” it says. “We have over 10 years of experience in
harvesting tissue and preservation. Our full-time medical
director is active in all phases of our operation. We are very
pleased to provide you with our services. Our goal is to offer
you and your staff the highest quality, most affordable, and
freshest tissue prepared to your specifications.”
Please tell me how you can do that if it is simply a matter
of taking an aborted child and sending it off to a research
laboratory somewhere.
My colleagues and American people, I don’t know what ts
going to happen to this country. But I just want to recap for
you what has happened here.
A woman comes into a clinic, an abortion clinic. She is
pregnant. She is in trouble. She needs help. They already
have somebody who has read her charts. They know her baby
is normal. They know it has no abnormal functions. They
know they need to get that baby out of there quickly. They
know they can’t do damage to the cadaver. They cannot do
damage to the fetus. They can’t poison it. They can’t cut it
because, to their specifications, they need perfect eyes, or
they need perfect skin, or good lungs, even the gonads, the
ultimate. The poor little child just has no privacy here. Limbs,
brains, spinal, spleen, liver, all of it, price list, all the way
down-they have it all figured out.
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And they have the gall to stand out here and tell you these
clinics care for the women. They care for the profit. They
cannot make it because abortions are going down. They can’t
charge these women any more because they are too poor to
pay. So they take it from their bodies, from the children. It is
a filthy, disgusting, dirty business, and it needs to be exposed
and eliminated.
How much more should we tolerate in this country? How
much more degradation must these children absorb and
endure?
Look at that list. Look at it and tell me that is fee-for-
service-to your specifications, your specifications. You give
us the order, and we will make sure you get perfect eyes that
weren't hurt by any abortionist’s knife, or they weren’t
poisoned by digoxin, or saline. Oh, we will make sure. We
will get you a live birth, if we have to, or a partial birth, if we
have to. We will get it for you because there is a lot of money
in it. That is why we will get it.
This is a filthy, disgusting, dirty business.
People say: Oh, you are antiresearch. I am not antiresearch.
If a woman has a miscarriage and wishes to donate that
miscarried child to research, she has every right to do that. |
am proresearch.
The Department of Health and Human Services under
President Bush determined there was plenty of tissue avail-
able through spontaneous abortions and ectopic pregnancies
to satisfy research needs-plenty. But oh, no, we have to get
into this. We have to make up for the loss of revenue because,
thank God, abortions are starting to go down in this country.
We have to make it up. Doctors don’t want to do them
anymore. It is a dirty business, they say. I’m sick when I go
home. We are going down a slippery slope, my fellow
Americans.
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x* k* * *
... This is a story from Kelly. A short paragraph, what she
said. It is very difficult for me even to read it, but you need to
hear it.
The doctor walked into the lab. This is in an abortion
clinic. Kelly is the wholesaler for the fetal tissue. She is the
person who has to take this fetus and do what has to be done
to it to get it to the supplier.
The doctor walked into the lab and set a steel pan on the
table. ““Got you some good specimens,” he said. “Twins.” The
technician looked down at a pair of perfectly formed 24-
week-old fetuses, moving and gasping for air. Except for a
few nicks from the surgical tongs that had pulled them out,
they seemed uninjured.
This is pretty difficult. | have witnessed the birth of my
three children, so forgive me if I have a little trouble.
The wholesaler, Kelly, said, “There is something wrong
here. They are moving. I don’t do this. That’s not in my
contract.”
She watched the doctor take a bottle of sterile water and fill
the pan until the water ran up over the babies’ mouths and
noses. Then she left the room. “I couldn’t watch those fetuses
moving. That’s when | decided it was wrong.”
So the abortionist, twin live births, 6 months-the little girl I
spoke to you about carlier who wrote to me was born
prematurely at 5 months. Two little twins drowned in a pan so
their body parts could be sold because they had an order for
the body parts. America.
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Warren Hern is the author of the most widely used text-
book on abortion procedures. Dr. Hern says, in this article:
A number of practitioners attempt to ensure live
fetuses after late abortions so that genetic tests can be
conducted on them.
There is a link. They say there is no link? There is
one.
It is his position that practitioners do this without
offering a woman the option of fetal demise before
abortion in a morally unacceptable manner since they
place research before the good of their patients.
(Mr. SANTORUM assumed the Chair.)
Here is an admission from the industry itself that when
they want to-I am not saying all do it, 1 am saying some do it-
when they want to, practitioners can do this. They can ensure
a live birth to fall within that 10-minute window, to get that
child chopped up quickly and on ice so those limbs are better
for the researcher and worth more money. You don’t want
any abnormalities, don’t want any problems.
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You will notice from these charts I have been putting up
that many of the highlights suggest the baby be put on
ice within 10 minutes of exiting the womb. I mentioned
that earlier.
Stop and think about this. If you do any of the other types
of abortions-saline, digoxin, and these other procedures,
D&E-what are you going to get? You are going to get
something that is going to be an abnormality. No abnormal
donors. Within 10 minutes, we want it on ice.
The point I am trying to make is, there are only two ways
you can get a baby, a fetus, on ice that quickly. One is a live
birth; you instantly kill it. Another is partial-birth. If there is
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another method, I am open-minded. I would like to hear about
it. Maybe somebody has it.
Let me read a letter I received today. This letter is pretty
devastating. | want you to think about this 10 minutes on
these charts. Within 10 minutes, we need to be able to ship it
to give you no abnormal donors, to make sure the fetus is in
good shape:
This is from Raymond Bandy, Jr., M.D., Dallas, TX:
Dear Senator SMITH: As a physician and pastor in
the Dallas Texas suburb of Lewisville, | was shocked
and outraged several months ago when my friend Mark
Crutcher invited me to the offices of Life Dynamics to
review for him from a medical perspective of several
requisitions for fetal tissue and body parts.
There were 2 areas particularly disturbing: No. 1, It was
almost unfathomable to be reading requests for arms, legs,
brains, etc., from aborted babies. Leading institutions in our
country with research scientists requesting in mail-order cata-
log format, body parts from babies killed in abortion clinics.
Leading institutions were requesting these parts.
No. 2, My attention was drawn to the fashion in which the
requests were made. Over and over again the requests would
mention that the tissue must be “fresh” —
It says ship on wet ice. Another one says fresh, remove
specimen and prepare within 15 minutes.
This is the process, a doctor talking now:
(a) The baby must in some fashion be kilied in its
mother’s womb. (b) The baby must then 6e extracted
from the womb. (c) It must then be de’vered in some
fashion to a technician who would then proceed to
amputate limbs; extract eyes, brains, hearts, and then
process them; (d) all within 19 minutes. I am not an
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abortionist, nor have | performed an abortion, but to
require these procedures to be accomplished in 10
minutes, means of necessity that the baby be extracted as
close to life as possible, and would lead to in many cases
babies . . . being born living, in order to be able to have
them on ice, or otherwise processed within this short
period of time.
As a community physician, I find this barbaric, cruel, evil,
and intolerable to the greatest degree. This is a return to the
medical practices of the “Nazis” of 1940s. . . .
Can anyone with even the most remote conscience, or
moral decency, tolerate this practice?
He closes with that.
Here is a doctor. He is telling us and he is reinforcing
everything | have said. Fresh, wet ice, no known abnorm-
alities; get it on the ice. How do you get a fetus that is not
chopped up, that is not poisoned? There are only two places. |
talked to you about both of them: Live births, partial births.
The dirty little secret is that Planned Parenthood takes
Federal taxpayers’ dollars. American workers, especially pro-
life workers, all of us-but those especially who are pro-life, |
am sure, would be opposed to it-are having money taken out
of their paychecks to pay for the marketing of babies’ body
parts. | talked about the $158 million grant from the Federal
Government for Planned Parenthood, NIH, $17.6 billion in
this year’s labor bill-not all for that but just in the bill.
| am not against the funding of the National Institutes of
Health, but I think when research is being conducted by the
Government, where taxpayer dollars are involved, there is a
much higher ethical standard to meet.
In addition, universities receive Federal funding, lots of it.
In fact, there are some universities that receive Federal
funding specifically for fetal tissue research.
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I want to point out one chart that I did not highlight before
because this really drives the point home in terms of whether
or not there is any particular reason to believe that in the
industry they are looking for live births or partial births.
Look what it says on this memo: “Please send list of
current frozen tissues.” And they go down the list: Liver and
blood and kidney and lung, and all this down here. And then
what does it say? No digoxin donors. “No DIG.” That is the
term for digoxin donors.
I want you to understand this and think about this: This is
an order form. They are saying here: We don’t want any
digoxin babies.
Well, why don’t they want them? Because they cannot sell
them. The parts are no good. It is in their own writing. They
are incriminating themselves. They are violating the law, and
they ought to be prosecuted.
Shine in the light. Bring in the sunshine. Live births are a
big problem, but DIG is not good for research. Abortion
clinics and harvesters are also deliberately hiding the fact that
they are shipping these parts all over the United States. They
even use vague language to trick and deceive shippers such as
Federal Express who will not do it, to their credit. But they
are not told. They are hidden. One marketer says: “We've
learned through the years of doing this” how to avoid prob-
lems with shippers like Federal Express.
But they have. If you are violating the law, you do every-
thing you can.
As | have gone through this now for I don’t know how long
here on the floor, you probably say to yourself: Could it get
any worse? Can it be any more humiliating?
We have covered pretty well what is happening to the
child. Recapping: A woman, pregnant-abortions are down,
the industry is losing money, and they can only charge so
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much. So they find a buyer of the body parts of the fetus.
There it is: “Fee For Services.” As I said before, $600 for a
cadaver, $125 for this, $75 for that. The lower numbers are
probably so common that they are not worth much. So they
sell the body parts. Then they do unimaginable things to the
emotional life of this unfortunate woman who is in so much
need of help and counseling.
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This is a copy of a public record, reproduced as it was published. It is not legal advice, and it may not be the version a court would rely on. Check the official source before you cite it.