Reply Brief — Ronell Moses, Jr., Petitioner v. United States
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No. 25-399
In the Supreme Court of the United States
RONELL MOSES, JR., PETITIONER
v.
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
ON PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI
TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
REPLY BRIEF FOR THE PETITIONER
KANNON K. SHANMUGAM
MASHA G. HANSFORD
JAKE L. KRAMER
EMMA R. WHITE
PAUL, WEISS, RIFKIND,
WHARTON & GARRISON LLP
2001 K Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20006
ELISA A. LONG
JASMINE SOLA
Counsel of Record
STACIE FAHSEL
SAMANTHA STERN
RENEE PIETROPAOLO
FEDERAL PUBLIC DEFENDER
FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT
OF PENNSYLVANIA
1001 Liberty Avenue,
Suite 1500
Pittsburgh, PA 15222
(412) 644-6565
Jasmine_Sola@fd.org
TABLE OF CONTENTS
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A. The decision below implicates a conflict
on both questions presented ............................................ 3
B. The decision below is incorrect ........................................ 7
C. The questions presented are important and
warrant the Court’s review in this case........................ 10
TABLE OF AUTHORITIES
Cases:
Ames v. Ohio Department of Youth Services,
605 U.S. 303 (2025) .............................................................. 4
Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts, Inc.
v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023) ..................................... 3
Bovat v. Vermont, 141 S. Ct. 22 (2020) .................................. 2
Carpenter v. United States, 585 U.S. 296 (2018)...... 7, 10, 11
Chong v. United States, 112 F.4th 848 (9th Cir. 2024) ........ 6
Collins v. Virginia, 584 U.S. 586 (2018) .............. 2, 4, 7, 9-11
Florida v. Jardines, 569 U.S. 1 (2013) ................ 2, 5, 6, 8-10
Kyles v. Whitley, 514 U.S. 419 (1995) .................................... 6
Kyllo v. United States, 533 U.S. 27 (2001) ............................ 7
United States v. Carpenter,
926 F.3d 313 (6th Cir. 2019) ............................................. 11
United States v. Dunn, 480 U.S. 294 (1987) ......... 1, 3-5, 7, 8
United States v. Jones, 565 U.S. 400 (2012) ......................... 8
Constitution:
U.S. Const. Amend. IV ........................................ 2, 4-8, 10, 11
Miscellaneous:
Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department,
14-23—Legal Standing Upon the Curtilage
of Residences (last visited Dec. 23, 2025)
<tinyurl.com/LACurtilage> ........................................... 4
(II)
In the Supreme Court of the United States
No. 25-399
RONELL MOSES, JR., PETITIONER
v.
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
ON PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI
TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
REPLY BRIEF FOR THE PETITIONER
Petitioner was subject to a warrantless search of his
car while it was parked in the driveway of his home, adjacent to his front porch. Despite ample evidence that the
driveway was regularly used for family gatherings and as
a children’s play area, a divided Third Circuit panel affirmed the district court’s denial of petitioner’s motion to
suppress, holding that evidence of how petitioner’s family
actually used the driveway was irrelevant under United
States v. Dunn, 480 U.S. 294 (1987), and that the driveway
was not curtilage.
The government does not dispute that the decision below joined the minority side of a 4-3 conflict on the consideration of actual-use evidence under Dunn. Instead, it
contends that a conflict as to one factor of a multi-factor
test is too narrow to be worth the Court’s time. See Br. in
(1)
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Opp. 14. But this Court routinely grants review in similar
circumstances, and resolving the conflict will have enormous practical implications for homeowners and law-enforcement officials alike. Nor can the government escape
the disagreement among courts as to the treatment of residential driveways more generally. It offers the meek
suggestion that the petition “overgeneraliz[es]” the degree of disagreement, see id. at 11, but it ultimately cannot explain away any, let alone all, of the many cases that
have rejected the approach taken below.
On the merits, the government declines to offer any
coherent justification for its proposed rule about actual
use. The government’s rule disregards history, Justice
Scalia’s views, and the Court’s recent focus on a propertybased understanding of the Fourth Amendment.
Throughout the petition, the government relies heavily on
the arguments that any portion of a driveway that is visible or within the path to the front door of a home cannot
be curtilage. See Br. in Opp. 2, 8-9, 14-15, 17. But this
Court has rejected those very arguments in its two most
recent curtilage decisions—Collins v. Virginia, 584 U.S.
586 (2018), and Florida v. Jardines, 569 U.S. 1 (2013).
This should have been an easy case under those precedents. But the ensuing widespread division in the lower
courts, and the government’s reprisal of arguments this
Court has specifically rejected, lays bare that “Jardines’s
[and Collins’s] message about the protections due a
home’s curtilage” has “badly eluded” not only the “state
[and] federal courts,” but also the federal government.
Bovat v. Vermont, 141 S. Ct. 22, 24 (2020) (Mem.) (Gorsuch, J., respecting the denial of certiorari). This Court
should not permit that division to fester. The petition for
a writ of certiorari should be granted.
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A. The Decision Below Implicates A Conflict On Both
Questions Presented
The government does not dispute (Br. in Opp. 9-15)
that the lower courts are divided as to each question presented, contending only that petitioner “overstates the extent” of the disagreement. Id. at 7. Those conflicts warrant the Court’s review.
1. The court of appeals acknowledged that “[c]ircuits
have split” over the question whether evidence of a homeowner’s actual use of the searched property is relevant to
the Dunn inquiry. Pet. App. 12a. The government does
not deny the existence of that conflict. See Br. in Opp. 1415. Specifically, the government does not dispute that the
court of appeals’ decision conflicts with the decisions of
four other circuits (the First, Second, Ninth, and Tenth),
which consider the evidence of actual use that the court of
appeals deemed off-limits in this case. Nor does it dispute
that the Sixth and Eighth Circuits follow the court of appeals’ rule, which depends on the evidence available to the
searching officers. The resulting 4-3 conflict warrants the
Court’s review.
Unable to deny the acknowledged, well-developed
conflict, the government contends that the Court should
not bother to resolve it, characterizing it as “narrow” because it involves only one of the four Dunn factors. See
Br. in Op. 14. But that factor is critical, because the “nature of the uses to which the area is put” is central to the
ultimate inquiry whether the area is “intimately tied to
the home.” Dunn, 480 U.S. at 301. And the Court routinely grants review to resolve disagreement as to a single
factor of a multi-factor test. See, e.g., Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts, Inc. v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S.
508, 515-516, 525 (2023).
Relatedly, the government suggests that the conflict
is not worth this Court’s time because the Dunn factors
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are a “heuristic” that “need not be applied in every curtilage case.” Br. in Opp. 15. That is no obstacle to review
either. Just last Term, the Court granted review to resolve a conflict as to the proper application of the first step
of the McDonnell-Douglas framework, a similar heuristic
that “merely aims to provide a sensible, orderly way to
evaluate the evidence.” Ames v. Ohio Department of
Youth Services, 605 U.S. 303, 308 & n.2 (2025) (internal
quotation marks and citation omitted).
And while the Dunn factors “need not be applied in
every curtilage case,” Br. in Opp. 15, courts are in fact applying them with startling frequency. A search of the
Westlaw database reveals approximately 400 decisions
citing Dunn since this Court decided Collins in 2018, with
approximately 130 of those cases applying the Dunn factors. And that is likely the tip of the iceberg, given the
number of trial-court rulings that never result in a written
decision or find their way into a commercial database.
Moreover, police officers are instructed to rely on the
Dunn factors to discharge their day-to-day duties. See,
e.g., Los Angeles County Sheriff ’s Department, 14-23—
Legal Standing Upon the Curtilage of Residences (last
visited Dec. 23, 2025) <tinyurl.com/LACurtilage>. Resolving the division over the application of the use factor
will provide much-needed guidance to lower courts and
law-enforcement officials alike.
Failing to diminish the conflict, the government
reaches for a pseudo-vehicle argument, contending that
review is “unwarranted” because petitioner’s Fourth
Amendment claim “would have failed even if actual-use
evidence were considered.” Br. in Opp. 14. But that is
surely incorrect, given the strength of that evidence here.
Judge Ambro, who wrote the dissenting opinion, would
have come out the other way on the actual-use question.
Pet. App. 30a-32a. And relying on that evidence, he would
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also have come out the other way as to the application of
the Dunn factors and as to the ultimate Fourth Amendment claim. Id. at 27a-37a, 42a. In the First, Second,
Ninth, and Tenth Circuits, this warrantless search would
have been held unconstitutional.
The government’s primary basis for contending that
the “actual use” evidence could not make a difference here
is that the searched car “was still ‘plainly visible from the
street and on the path that any stranger might take to the
front door.’ ” Br. in Opp. 14 (quoting Pet. App. 8a). Tellingly, the government’s argument in that respect relies
exclusively on lower-court cases from 2007 or earlier. See
id. at 15. That is because the government is living in a
pre-Jardines world. The government tried the very same
argument in its Jardines brief, contending that the protections of the Fourth Amendment do not apply to “a
walkway or driveway leading to the front door” because
“they are customarily open to visitors and therefore may
be used by the police as well.” U.S. Br. at 24 n.8, Jardines,
supra (No. 11-564). But the Court flatly rejected that contention. The Court explained that “the background social
norms that invite a visitor to the front door do not invite
him there to conduct a search.” Jardines, 569 U.S. at 9.
Yet the government invokes that rejected argument
throughout its brief in opposition, see Br. in Opp. 2, 8-9,
14, 17, and the decision below relied on similar reasoning,
see Pet. App. 8a, 13a-14a. The fact that lower courts and
the federal government cling to that abrogated reasoning
underscores the need for the Court to intervene and restore the curtilage protections the Court had previously
mandated.
2. Nor does the government succeed in undermining
the conflict as to the second question presented. As the
petition explained, courts of appeals and state courts of
last resort are deeply divided about the curtilage status of
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driveways. See Pet. 17-20. The government attempts to
muddy the waters by identifying fact-specific circumstances in each case in an effort to explain away the disagreement. See Br. in Opp. 9-11. But by the end of that
exercise, even the government is not persuaded, claiming
only that the petition’s assertion of a deep and growing
conflict is an “overgeneralization.” See id. at 11.
At bottom, the cases reveal two fundamentally irreconcilable views as to whether driveways are presumptively curtilage. The government suggests that some of
the cases that have found a driveway to be within the curtilage are distinguishable because “police officers ventured beyond the path to the front door and into other areas of the property” on their way to the driveway. Br. in
Opp. 9. But that reprises the government’s mistaken (and
rejected) view about the path to the front door. See p. 5,
supra. Regardless, the cases considered the path the officers followed in assessing the separate question (not at
issue here) whether the “trespass [onto the curtilage] was
unlicensed.” Chong v. United States, 112 F.4th 848, 852
(9th Cir. 2024) (per curiam), cert. denied, 145 S. Ct. 1218
(2025); see Jardines, 569 U.S. at 7.
The government’s next move is a puzzling one: it invokes the two-court rule, applicable where a petitioner
seeks review on a theory that “a concededly correct view
of the law was incorrectly applied to the facts” by both
lower courts. Kyles v. Whitley, 514 U.S. 419, 456-457
(1995) (Scalia, J., dissenting) (citation omitted). But that
is not petitioner’s theory at all. Instead, review of the second question presented is warranted because the decision
below erred in its legal analysis of curtilage: specifically,
by adopting the legally mistaken view that a portion of a
driveway in close proximity to the home is presumptively
not curtilage. That is precisely the kind of Fourth Amend-
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ment question this Court routinely reviews. See, e.g., Collins, 584 U.S. at 588; Carpenter v. United States, 585 U.S.
296, 300 (2018); Kyllo v. United States, 533 U.S. 27, 29
(2001).
B. The Decision Below Is Incorrect
The government devotes significant attention to the
merits of both questions. See Br. in Opp. 8-9, 12-13. Although the merits are ultimately a matter for another day,
the government’s arguments miss the mark.
1. The government acknowledges that the curtilage
inquiry turns on whether an area “harbor[s] ‘the intimate
activity associated with’ ” the home, Br. in Opp. 8 (citation
omitted), yet it offers no explanation as to how disregarding the disputed area’s actual uses is consistent with that
inquiry. Indeed, the government offers no response to
most of petitioner’s arguments on this front. See Pet. 2026. As the petition laid out (Pet. 24-25), and amici have
underscored (Gun Owners Br. 12-16), the historical record
powerfully supports petitioner. The government offers no
countervailing historical evidence of its own to justify its
rule, which would allow the protections of the Fourth
Amendment to expand and contract based on considerations such as the time of day.
The government defends the officer-perception rule as
“consistent with this Court’s decision in Dunn” because
the Court there emphasized “objective data” available to
the officers that “the barn was not being used for intimate
activities of the home.” Br. in Opp. 12-13 (quoting Dunn,
480 U.S. at 302). But as the petition explained (Pet. 2223), while the Court deemed relevant evidence that was
objectively available to the officers, it does not follow that
evidence unavailable to the officers is off-limits. Tellingly, Justice Scalia faulted the majority for even consid-
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ering the officers’ access to the evidence; deeming evidence unavailable to the officers to be categorically offlimits would be a gross departure from Justice Scalia’s understanding of the proper curtilage inquiry. See Pet. 23
(citing 480 U.S. at 305 (opinion concurring in part)).
More broadly, the government takes the view that all
that matters to the Fourth Amendment analysis is what
is apparent to a searching officer. See Br. in Opp. 13.
Again, that would have been news to Justice Scalia, who
explained that “[w]hat is significant” is how the disputed
area was being used, “whether or not the law enforcement
officials knew it.” Dunn, 480 U.S. at 305 (opinion concurring in part). Indeed, in emphasizing officers’ contemporaneous perceptions, the government seems to have forgotten that a “traditional property-based understanding”—not just the expectations of the defendant or the officers—is at the root of the Fourth Amendment. Jardines, 569 U.S. at 11; see United States v. Jones, 565 U.S.
400, 405-407 (2012).
Bereft of text and precedent, the government primarily contends that its rule is a better guide for “police in
their day-to-day activities.” Br. in Opp. 13 (citation omitted). But that tees up a core problem with the government’s rule. Under a rule that depends on an officer’s perception, an area closely associated with the home is fair
game for a warrantless search as long as the officer approaches the home when evidence of domestic activities is
least likely to be apparent. Under the government’s rule,
curtilage protection is the rare exception, coming into
play only when the area is being put to intimate use at the
time of the search itself.
2. The court of appeals also erred by determining
that the portion of the driveway searched was not curtilage. At the time of the search, petitioner’s car was adjacent to his front porch, in a private driveway enclosed on
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three sides and used for domestic activities. See Pet. 7-9.
Under Collins, the search of petitioner’s car occurred
within the home’s curtilage. See Pet. 26-29.
Like the court of appeals, the government believes
that, absent unusual circumstances, driveways are not
curtilage. See Br. in Opp. 8-9. In making that argument,
however, the government flouts this Court’s precedents.
The government first attempts to distinguish Collins on
the ground that the portion of the driveway at issue in this
case was “on the path that any stranger might take to the
front door.” Br. in Opp. 8 (citation omitted); see id. at 9,
14, 17. But as explained above, that argument is flatly
contrary to Jardines. See p. 5. In similar disregard for
the Court’s precedents, the government contends that a
driveway cannot be curtilage if it is “plainly visible from
the street.” Br. in Opp. 8, 14 (citation omitted). But the
Court expressly rejected that argument in Collins, explaining that “[t]he ability to observe inside curtilage from
a lawful vantage point is not the same as the right to enter
curtilage without a warrant for the purpose of conducting
a search to obtain information not otherwise accessible.”
584 U.S. at 600.
To reconcile its cramped view with this Court’s precedents, the government contends that the driveway in Collins was curtilage only because it was “behind the front
perimeter of the house,” partially enclosed, and next to
the side door. Br. in Opp. 8-9 (citation omitted). But Collins was far from an edge case; the Court easily concluded
that the driveway “is properly considered curtilage” because it “constitutes an area adjacent to the home and to
which the activity of home life extends.” 584 U.S. at 594
(internal quotation marks and citation omitted). The government’s effort to limit Collins to its exact facts should
be rejected.
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C. The Questions Presented Are Important And Warrant
The Court’s Review In This Case
Finally, the government asserts that this case is not a
suitable vehicle because, if petitioner prevails, the goodfaith exception to the exclusionary rule can save his conviction. See Br. in Opp. 15-17.
In support of that argument, the government reprises
its mistaken view that officers have carte blanche as long
as they “approach[ed] the home by the front path,” just as
the “Girl Scouts and trick-or-treaters” might. Br. in Opp.
17 (quoting Jardines, 569 U.S. at 8). In Jardines, however, the Court said just the opposite. Girl Scouts and
trick-or-treaters do not search the homeowner’s car and
person, so “[t]here is no customary invitation to do that.”
Jardines, 569 U.S. at 9. Regardless of the path taken,
“physically intrud[ing] on the curtilage to gather evidence” is a “search” under the Fourth Amendment that
“is presumptively unreasonable absent a warrant.” Collins, 584 U.S. at 593.
The good-faith exception is a particularly poor reason
to deny review in this case because the dissenting opinion,
which would have reached the opposite result as to the
curtilage inquiry, specifically explained that the goodfaith exception would not apply because “Collins and
Jardines are close enough to this case” to alert a reasonable officer that his conduct was unlawful. Pet. App. 41a
(opinion of Ambro, J.).
And even if, contrary to Judge Ambro’s views, suppression might ultimately be unwarranted, that is no reason to deny the petition. If this Court reverses the decision below, it can remand for lower courts to sort out the
good-faith inquiry—just as it has routinely done in previous Fourth Amendment cases. See, e.g., Collins, 584 U.S.
at 601; Carpenter, 585 U.S. at 321. And regardless of how
the exclusionary-rule analysis would play out in this case,
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the Court’s intervention to restore the correct understanding of curtilage will provide key guidance for “police
in their day-to-day activities.” Br. in Opp. 13. The government apparently prefers that this Court stay out of the
business of interpreting the Fourth Amendment entirely.
But this Court’s consideration of the questions presented
in Carpenter and Collins were hardly wasted, even
though the petitioners’ convictions in both cases were ultimately affirmed. See, e.g., United States v. Carpenter,
926 F.3d 313, 317-318 (6th Cir. 2019). Any other approach
would all but eliminate the Court’s ability to review important questions of Fourth Amendment law and correct
lower-court decisions, such as this one, that undermine
core Fourth Amendment protections.
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The petition for a writ of certiorari should be granted.
Respectfully submitted.
KANNON K. SHANMUGAM
MASHA G. HANSFORD
JAKE L. KRAMER
EMMA R. WHITE
PAUL, WEISS, RIFKIND,
WHARTON & GARRISON LLP
2001 K Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20006
DECEMBER 2025
ELISA A. LONG
JASMINE SOLA
STACIE FAHSEL
SAMANTHA STERN
RENEE PIETROPAOLO
FEDERAL PUBLIC DEFENDER
FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT
OF PENNSYLVANIA
1001 Liberty Avenue,
Suite 1500
Pittsburgh, PA 15222
(412) 644-6565
Jasmine_Sola@fd.org
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