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People v. Portillo

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May 15, 2023
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Filed 5/15/23 (see concurring opinion)

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IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

SECOND APPELLATE DISTRICT

DIVISION SEVEN

THE PEOPLE, B315241

Plaintiff and Respondent, (Los Angeles County

Super. Ct. No. KA127308)

v.

JOSE PORTILLO et al.,

Defendants and

Appellants.

APPEAL from judgments of the Superior Court of

Los Angeles County, Victor D. Martinez, Judge. Affirmed with

directions.

Jeffrey Manning-Cartwright, under appointment by the

Court of Appeal, for Defendant and Appellant Jose Portillo.

Richard M. Doctoroff, under appointment by the Court of

Appeal, for Defendant and Appellant Orlando Portillo.

Rob Bonta, Attorney General, Lance E. Winters, Chief

Assistant Attorney General, Susan Sullivan Pithey, Assistant

Attorney General, Steven D. Matthews and J. Michael Lehmann,

Deputy Attorneys General, for Plaintiff and Respondent.

______________________

Jose Portillo and Orlando Portillo 1 appeal from judgments

of conviction entered after a jury found them each guilty of one

count of grand theft (Pen. Code, § 487, subd. (a)). 2 Jose and

Orlando contend there was insufficient evidence to support their

convictions because the evidence failed to establish the value of

the stolen items—15 boxes of adjustable dumbbells—exceeded

$950. The only evidence of the dumbbells’ value was the

testimony of the manager of the warehouse facility where the

theft occurred, who testified to the prices listed on three retailers’

websites for the same product. Jose and Orlando contend this

testimony was inadmissible hearsay because it was offered for

the truth of the dumbbells’ value.

We conclude evidence of a retail price for a stolen item,

whether based on an online listing or a brick-and-mortar store

price tag, is admissible for the nonhearsay purpose of showing

that a retailer is advertising the item for a specified price in the

marketplace. This price, in turn, is circumstantial evidence of

the fair market value of the item, defined under California law as

the highest price obtainable in the marketplace between a willing

buyer and a willing seller. The jury need not decide the truth of

whether a specific retailer would sell the item for the advertised

price or the value the retailer places on the item, nor should the

jury consider the evidence for these hearsay purposes. A

defendant is always free to introduce evidence that the retailer is

1 We refer to Jose Portillo and Orlando Portillo by their first

names to avoid confusion.

2 Further undesignated statutory references are to the Penal

Code.

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not willing to sell the item for the listed price (i.e., it is

mismarked or unavailable), or evidence of lower prices from other

retailers. But this goes to weight, not admissibility. Therefore,

the three online prices were admissible as circumstantial

evidence of the fair market value of the dumbbells.

Orlando also contends there was insufficient evidence he

committed theft because only Jose was caught removing the

dumbbells from the warehouse loading dock. However, there was

substantial circumstantial evidence Orlando aided and abetted

the theft. Finally, Jose and Orlando contend the trial court erred

in ordering them to pay the cost of probation services because the

statutory authorization for charging defendants probation

services fees was repealed by Assembly Bill No. 1869 (2019-2020

Reg. Sess.) (Stats. 2020, ch. 92, § 47) (Assembly Bill 1869),

effective July 1, 2021. Although the court’s minute order does not

provide that Jose and Orlando must pay the cost of probation

services, we direct the court to correct the oral pronouncement of

judgment to reflect that Jose and Orlando are not responsible for

paying the costs of probation services. We otherwise affirm.

FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND

A. The Evidence at Trial

1. The events of January 23, 2021

At approximately 1:39 a.m. on Saturday, January 23, 2021,

Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Deputy Virginia Bynum was on

routine patrol in the City of Industry when she noticed a gate

was open at the Comptree warehouse facility on Brea Canyon

Road. Deputy Bynum drove into the facility to investigate, where

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she noticed a vehicle with an interior light on backed up to a

loading dock next to a freight trailer.

Deputy Bynum approached the vehicle, a silver sports

utility vehicle (SUV), and found Jose loading cardboard boxes

into the back. 3 The boxes were labeled “‘Dialtech Selective

Dumbbell.’” When Deputy Bynum approached Jose, he was

extremely nervous and was looking around. The SUV was

parked next to a 45-foot freight trailer, which had its cargo doors

open and was backed up to the loading dock. The loading dock

area was completely dark, with the only illumination coming

from inside the SUV. Deputy Bynum determined the boxes in

the SUV were similar to those inside the trailer.

Detective Bynum estimated the loading dock platform was

approximately four to four-and-a-half feet above the ground. 4

Because of the height of the platform, Deputy Bynum had to

assist her partner in climbing up onto the loading dock. After

placing Jose under arrest, Deputy Bynum helped her partner

unload the dumbbells from the SUV and found them to be “very

heavy.” 5 A total of 15 boxes of dumbbells were unloaded from the

SUV.

Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Deputy Richard Muehlich

responded to Deputy Bynum’s call for backup. Upon arrival, he

3 Deputy Bynum identified Jose in court.

4 Comptree manager Johnny Lee estimated the loading dock

platform was three feet high. Photographs of the loading dock

taken during the daytime were admitted at trial. It appears from

the photographs that the platform was at least four feet high.

5 Photographs of the cardboard boxes stacked in the rear of

the SUV were admitted at trial. The box label stated the

dumbbells weighed 25 kilograms (about 55 pounds).

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conducted a search of the Comptree facility for additional

suspects. After about 35 minutes searching the property, Deputy

Muehlich found Jose’s brother Orlando 6 underneath a semi-

trailer truck parked at the other end of the loading dock.

Orlando was balanced on top of the six-inch axle of the truck.

Deputy Muehlich was wearing a body camera, and an audio-video

recording of their encounter was played for the jury. 7 Asked why

he was there, Orlando told Deputy Muehlich he met a friend

named Rick and borrowed Rick’s black Nissan Versa. Orlando

explained he was hiding under the truck because “it was raining

a long time ago” and “[his] brother was gonna come pick [him] up

or something,” but Orlando “fell asleep.” Orlando did not know

Rick’s last name or have any information about Rick other than

that he lived in Pomona. Orlando was also unable to provide the

address of the Comptree facility or name any of the surrounding

streets. Deputy Muehlich searched but could not find a Nissan

Versa or similar car parked in the area.

Deputy Muehlich’s body camera video showed Orlando was

wearing a hooded jacket. Deputy Muehlich searched Orlando

and found a functioning headlamp in his pocket, but Orlando did

not have a crowbar or other tools that might be used to pry open

6 The parties stipulated that Jose and Orlando are brothers.

7 The jury was provided a transcript of Deputy Muehlich’s

encounter with Orlando. Deputy Muehlich read Orlando his

rights under Miranda v. Arizona (1966) 384 U.S. 436. Portions of

the body camera recording and transcript were redacted based on

Jose’s objection the interview implicated Jose and, if admitted,

would violate his right to cross-examine Orlando under People v.

Aranda (1965) 63 Cal.2d 518 and Bruton v. United States (1968)

391 U.S. 123.

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a door. Deputy Muehlich also recovered a wallet containing a

California identification card bearing Orlando’s name from the

SUV, between the passenger seat and center console.

At around 8:30 a.m. on the day of the theft, Johnny Lee,

Comptree’s warehouse manager, learned of the incident after

seeing he had many unanswered calls from the alarm company.

In preparation for a meeting with Los Angeles County Sheriff’s

Detective Rudy Zamora two days later, Lee reviewed the

surveillance footage of the loading dock from the morning of the

incident. Lee observed two individuals coming out of the SUV

whom he did not recognize. Lee determined from the video and

from his subsequent inspection of the premises that the items

being removed from the freight trailer were boxes of dumbbells.

Lee had not given permission to anyone to take boxes from the

trailer on January 23, 2021. 8 Lee provided the surveillance video

to Detective Zamora.

Detective Zamora reviewed the surveillance video and

testified about its contents. An excerpt of the video was played

for the jury, including the seven minutes leading up to Deputy

Bynum’s arrival. The field of vision covered by the surveillance

camera included the parking lot where the SUV and freight

trailer were parked, but it did not include the loading dock. At

the beginning of the video excerpt, an SUV pulls into the facility

and backs up toward the loading dock. A man in a hooded jacket

emerges from the passenger’s side of the SUV, followed by a man

8 Lee testified that at about 1:39 in the morning, only a

delivery company driver would typically be at the Comptree

facility. He had a relationship with the drivers and did not

recognize either of the two men as one of the drivers with whom

he worked.

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(Jose) in a long-sleeve shirt coming from the driver’s side. Jose

opens the liftgate on the back of the SUV while the man in the

jacket places a headlamp on his head and turns it on. The man

in the jacket then disappears from the frame in the direction of

the loading dock and is not seen on the videotape again. About

40 seconds later, however, a beam of light flashes toward Jose

from the direction of the loading dock. Jose then approaches the

light and disappears from the frame. Five seconds later Jose

reenters the frame carrying a box from the loading dock to the

SUV, which he places in the back of the SUV. Jose returns to the

loading dock, and after about six seconds he reappears carrying

another box to the SUV. On his third trip, a beam of light

emanating from the loading dock illuminates Jose from behind.

After six trips within the next two minutes between the

loading dock and the SUV, Jose enters the driver’s side of the

SUV and backs it closer to the loading dock. In the next three

minutes, Jose makes nine more trips between the loading dock

and the SUV, each time carrying one box. At that point, Deputy

Bynum’s patrol car pulls into the parking lot and turns the car’s

spotlight on, and Jose freezes while crouched in the back of the

SUV after positioning the 15th box.

2. Evidence of the value of the dumbbells

Lee was the only witness to testify about the value of the

dumbbells. Based on his review of the surveillance video and his

inspection of the freight trailer, Lee determined the boxes

removed from the trailer contained dumbbells with

manufacturing number W38416389. On January 25 Lee entered

the manufacturing number on Amazon.com. Asked by the

prosecutor, “What value did you determine?” Lee responded,

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“$500,” or $7,500 for 15 boxes. Lee had also looked up the same

manufacturing number on the Walmart website. Asked at trial,

“Do you recall the value amount that Walmart gave?,” Lee

responded, “Not exactly. Over $300.” 9 With his recollection

refreshed by a document from the Walmart website, Lee testified

the Walmart price was $357 per box, for a total of $5,355 for

15 boxes. Lee also had input the manufacturing number on a

website called “Gym and Fitness.” After he refreshed his

recollection with a document from that website, he testified the

price asked by Gym and Fitness was $498 a box, or $7,470 for 15

boxes. The prosecutor did not offer the website printouts into

evidence.

During cross-examination, Lee testified Comptree did not

sell the dumbbells, but rather, it ships products for other

companies. Lee did not have any bills of sale or invoices relating

to the dumbbells.

9 The defense attorneys objected on hearsay grounds to the

prosecutor’s questions about the retailers’ website prices. At a

sidebar, the defense attorneys argued the website prices were

hearsay because they were offered for the truth of the value of

the items. The prosecutor asserted the prices were not hearsay

because they were offered to show the value assigned by the

retailers, and even if they were hearsay, the testimony about the

prices was admissible as testimony about a “computer-generated

document” similar to the Kelley Blue Book. The trial court

overruled the objections on the ground “fair market value in the

marketplace is certainly relevant based upon what other retailers

are selling the same item for.”

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B. The Verdicts and Sentencing

On August 23, 2021 the jury found Jose and Orlando guilty

of grand theft (§ 487, subd. (a)).

At the sentencing hearing the same day, the trial court

suspended imposition of sentence and placed Jose and Orlando on

two years of formal probation on the condition they serve

180 days in county jail. The court found Jose and Orlando had no

ability to pay court fees or a crime prevention fine (§ 1202.5). The

court imposed and stayed a $300 restitution fine (§ 1202.4,

subd. (b)) pending proof of an ability to pay, and imposed and

stayed a probation revocation fine in the same amount

(§ 1202.45). The court orally ordered Jose and Orlando to “obey

all rules and regulations of the probation department including

paying the cost of the probation services based on your ability to

pay.” However, the minute order for the hearing did not refer to

payment for probation services, stating only that each defendant

“obey all rules and regulations of the probation department.”

(Capitalization omitted.) The minute order also stated: “All

other mandatory fees are waived based on an inability to pay in

accordance with the case of [People v. Dueñas (2019)

30 Cal.App.5th 1157, 1168].” 10

Jose and Orlando timely appealed.

10 In People v. Dueñas, supra, 30 Cal.App.5th at page 1168,

this court concluded that imposing court assessments and fees

““upon indigent defendants without a determination that they

have the present ability to pay violates due process under both

the United States Constitution and the California Constitution.”

(Accord, People v. Belloso (2019) 42 Cal.App.5th 647, 654-655,

review granted Mar. 11, 2020, S259755.)

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DISCUSSION

A. Grand Theft and Standard of Review

“Every person who shall feloniously steal, take, carry, lead,

or drive away the personal property of another . . . is guilty of

theft.” (§ 484, subd. (a).) “Theft is divided into two degrees, the

first of which is termed grand theft; the second, petty theft.”

(§ 486.) “Grand theft is theft committed . . . [¶] . . . [w]hen the

money, labor, real or personal property taken is of a value

exceeding nine hundred fifty dollars ($950) . . . .” (§ 487,

subd. (a).) The elements to prove grand theft are “‘the taking of

personal property [valued at more than $950] from the owner . . .

into the possession of the criminal without the consent of the

owner or under a claim of right, [and] the asportation of the

subject matter [with] the specific intent to deprive the owner of

his property wholly and permanently.’” (People v. Whitmer (2014)

230 Cal.App.4th 906, 922; accord, People v. Walther (1968)

263 Cal.App.2d 310, 316; see People v. Davis (1998) 19 Cal.4th

301, 305 [“The elements of theft by larceny are well settled: the

offense is committed by every person who (1) takes possession (2)

of personal property (3) owned or possessed by another, (4) by

means of trespass and (5) with intent to steal the property, and

(6) carries the property away.”].)

“In determining the value of the property obtained, for the

purposes of [theft offenses], the reasonable and fair market value

shall be the test.” (§ 484, subd. (a); see People v. Romanowski

(2017) 2 Cal.5th 903, 914 (Romanowski) [“courts have long

required section 484’s ‘reasonable and fair market value’ test to

be used for theft crimes that contained a value threshold”].) “The

fair market value of an item is ‘the highest price obtainable in the

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market place’ as between ‘a willing buyer and a willing seller,

neither of whom is forced to act.’” (People v. Grant (2020)

57 Cal.App.5th 323, 329 (Grant); accord, Romanowski, at p. 915;

People v. Pena (1977) 68 Cal.App.3d 100, 104.) 11 “Fair market

value is ‘not the value of the property to any particular

individual.’” (Grant, at p. 329; accord, People v. Lizarraga (1954)

122 Cal.App.2d 436, 438.)

“Fair market value may be established by opinion or

circumstantial evidence.” (Grant, supra, 57 Cal.App.5th at

p. 329.) “The price charged by a retail store from which

merchandise is stolen” is “sufficient to establish the value of the

merchandise,” absent proof to the contrary. (People v. Tijerina

(1969) 1 Cal.3d 41, 45 (Tijerina); accord, Grant, at p. 329.)

“Jurors may also ‘rely on their common knowledge’ in

determining the value of an item.” (Grant, at p. 329; accord,

People v. Ortiz (2012) 208 Cal.App.4th 1354, 1366.)

We review a trial court’s ruling on a hearsay objection for

an abuse of discretion. (People v. Waidla (2000) 22 Cal.4th 690,

725 [“an appellate court applies the abuse of discretion standard

of review to any ruling by a trial court on the admissibility of

11 The jury was instructed with a version of CALCRIM

No. 1801, with the following definition of fair market value: “Fair

market value is the price a reasonable buyer and seller would

agree on if the buyer wanted to buy the property and the seller

wanted to sell it, but neither was under an urgent need to buy or

sell.” (See Romanowski, supra, 2 Cal.5th at p. 915 [citing

CALCRIM No. 1801 definition of fair market value given here].

CALCRIM No. 1801 provides as an alternative definition, “Fair

market value is the highest price the property would reasonably

have been sold for in the open market at the time of, and in the

general location of, the theft.” (Italics omitted.)

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evidence, including one that turns on the hearsay nature of the

evidence in question”]; People v. Yates (2018) 25 Cal.App.5th 474,

484-485 [same]; see People v. Grimes (2016) 1 Cal.5th 698, 711

[trial court’s decision on admissibility under Evidence Code

section 1230 reviewed for abuse of discretion].) However, to the

extent a hearsay ruling turns on a question of law, as it does

here, we review the question de novo. (Grimes, at p. 712

[“Whether a trial court has correctly construed Evidence Code

section 1230 is, however, a question of law that we review de

novo.”]; see People v. Louis (1986) 42 Cal.3d 969, 986 [conclusions

of law are subject to de novo review].)

With respect to Orlando’s challenge to the sufficiency of the

evidence, “we review the entire record in the light most favorable

to the judgment of the trial court. We evaluate whether

substantial evidence, defined as reasonable and credible evidence

of solid value, has been disclosed, permitting the trier of fact to

find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.” (People v. Vargas (2020)

9 Cal.5th 793, 820; accord, People v. Penunuri (2018) 5 Cal.5th

126, 142 [“‘To assess the evidence’s sufficiency, we review the

whole record to determine whether any rational trier of fact could

have found the essential elements of the crime or special

circumstances beyond a reasonable doubt.’”].) “‘“Conflicts and

even testimony [that] is subject to justifiable suspicion do not

justify the reversal of a judgment, for it is the exclusive province

of the trial judge or jury to determine the credibility of a witness

and the truth or falsity of the facts upon which a determination

depends. [Citation.] We resolve neither credibility issues nor

evidentiary conflicts; we look for substantial evidence.”’”

(Penunuri, at p. 142; accord, People v. Mendez (2019) 7 Cal.5th

680, 703.)

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“‘“The standard of review is the same in cases in which the

prosecution relies mainly on circumstantial evidence.”’” (People

v. Vargas, supra, 9 Cal.5th at p. 820; accord, People v. Rivera

(2019) 7 Cal.5th 306, 324.) “‘We presume in support of the

judgment the existence of every fact the trier of fact reasonably

could infer from the evidence. [Citation.] If the circumstances

reasonably justify the trier of fact’s findings, reversal of the

judgment is not warranted simply because the circumstances

might also reasonably be reconciled with a contrary finding.’”

(People v. Westerfield (2019) 6 Cal.5th 632, 713; accord, People v.

Penunuri, supra, 5 Cal.5th at p. 142 [“‘A reversal for insufficient

evidence “is unwarranted unless it appears ‘that upon no

hypothesis whatever is there sufficient substantial evidence to

support’” the jury’s verdict.’”].)

B. Substantial Evidence Supports a Finding the Value of the

Dumbbells Exceeded $950

1. Hearsay and nonhearsay evidence

Hearsay is an out-of-court statement offered for the truth of

its content. (Hart v. Keenan Properties, Inc. (2020) 9 Cal.5th 442,

447 (Hart); People v. Sanchez (2016) 63 Cal.4th 665, 674; Evid.

Code, § 1200, subd. (a).) Conversely, “[w]hen an out-of-court

statement is offered for any relevant purpose other than to prove

the truth of the matter stated, the statement is not hearsay.”

(People v. Wilson (2021) 11 Cal.5th 259, 305; accord, People v.

Armstrong (2019) 6 Cal.5th 735, 786.)

When considering whether an out-of-court assertion is

nonhearsay, “[t]he first and most basic requirement for applying

the not-for-the-truth limitation . . . is that the out-of-court

statement must be offered for some purpose independent of the

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truth of the matters it asserts. That means that the statement

must be capable of serving its nonhearsay purpose regardless of

whether the jury believes the matters asserted to be true.”

(People v. Hopson (2017) 3 Cal.5th 424, 432, citing 2 McCormick

on Evidence (7th ed. 2013) The Hearsay Rule, § 249, p. 189, fn. 2

[“if in fact the statement must be true for the inference desired,

then the ostensible nonhearsay use is invalid”]; accord, Hart,

supra, 9 Cal.5th at p. 447; People v. Armstrong, supra, 6 Cal.5th

at p. 786.) As the Supreme Court explained in Hart, “For

example, suppose A hit B after B said, ‘You’re stupid.’ B’s out-of-

court statement asserts that A is stupid. If those words are

offered to prove that A is, indeed, stupid, they constitute hearsay

and would be inadmissible unless they fell under a hearsay

exception. However, those same words might be admissible for a

nonhearsay purpose: to prove that A had a motive to assault B.

The distinction turns not on the words themselves, but what they

are offered to prove.” (Hart, at pp. 447-448; see Armstrong, at

p. 786 [assault victim’s use of racial slur was relevant to show

defendant’s motive].) Because “[o]therwise competent evidence

must also be relevant, . . . the nontruth offered must be relevant.”

(Hart, at p. 448.)

The Supreme Court in Hart acknowledged with respect to

the hearsay analysis, “The concept can prove analytically elusive

when the words themselves also make an assertion.” (9 Cal.5th

at p. 448, citing 1 Witkin, Cal. Evidence (5th ed. 2018) Hearsay,

§ 37, p. 832 [“The distinction between these two uses of the

evidence is not always readily apparent.”].) In Hart, for example,

the court considered whether a construction foreman’s testimony

that an invoice for pipes bearing the name “Keenan Supply” and

a stylized “K” logo was hearsay in a case where the ultimate

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disputed fact was whether Keenan supplied pipes for the project.

(Id. at p. 449.) The court held the name and logo on the invoice

were nonhearsay because “the link between Keenan and the

pipes does not depend on the word ‘Keenan’ being a true

statement that Keenan supplied the pipes. Instead, the link

relies on several circumstances demonstrated by the evidence,”

including the foreman’s testimony that when the pipes were

delivered, he “was given an invoice bearing Keenan’s name and

logo,” which matched the load delivered, in addition to evidence

the company’s practice was to provide invoices bearing its name

and logo with its pipes. (Id. at pp. 449-450.) The connection

between the pipes and the supplier would have been evident

“even if the company name and logo were not expressive of [the

company’s] identity as the source.” 12 (Id. at p. 449.)

12 The Supreme Court in Hart, supra, 9 Cal.5th at page 449

analogized the Keenan invoices to the documents at issue in

People v. Goodall (1982) 131 Cal.App.3d 129, 143 and People v.

Williams (1992) 3 Cal.App.4th 1545, 1542, in which the Courts of

Appeal held that documents identifying the defendant (including

correspondence, receipts, and licenses) recovered from dwellings

were nonhearsay evidence that the defendants resided at the

dwellings. The Hart court observed, “In Goodall and Williams

the documents were relevant regardless of their truth. It was the

presence of the documents, not the truth of their content, that

linked those defendants to the residences. Even if the documents

bore false aliases, they could still be evidence of the disputed link,

if it could be established that [the defendants] used those false

names.” (Hart, at p. 449.)

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2. The retailers’ price listings were admissible

circumstantial evidence of the stolen dumbbells’ value

This case presents, as Hart describes it, an “analytically

elusive” hearsay case. (Hart, supra, 9 Cal.5th at p. 448.) The

challenge stems from the fact price listings on a retailer’s website

and price tags in a brick-and-mortar store 13 can serve multiple

evidentiary purposes to prove the ultimate fact: the value of

stolen items. Some of these purposes clearly implicate hearsay.

For example, an out-of-court statement by a Walmart employee

that Walmart was offering to sell adjustable dumbbells for $357

(or a price listing or price tag to that effect) is hearsay if it is

offered for the truth that Walmart was willing to sell the

dumbbells for $357 or that Walmart believed the value of the

dumbbells was $357. 14

13 For simplicity we refer to prices posted on a retailer’s

website as price listings, and brick-and-mortar store price tags as

price tags. We treat price listings and price tags the same in our

hearsay analysis.

14 We recognize, as the concurrence highlights, that Lee in his

testimony referred to the website price listings interchangeably

as “values” and “prices.” For example, when asked whether he

had determined the “value” of the dumbbells from the Amazon

website, Lee testified (after a hearsay objection was sustained)

that the “value” was $500. However, as to the Walmart website,

the prosecutor inquired as to the “price that [Lee] learned” from

the website. Following a sidebar discussion, Lee testified, after

being shown the Walmart website printout to refresh his

memory, that the “amount” on the Walmart price listing was

$357. And with respect to the Gym and Fitness website, Lee was

asked for the “price or value . . . from that website,” and he

responded (again after having his memory refreshed with a

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However, a price listing or price tag is also evidence of a

retailer’s offer to sell the item for a specified price, for the

purpose of inviting a marketplace transaction. If evidence of the

Walmart price tag in the store or price listing for $357 is

presented to show Walmart was advertising the dumbbells for

sale at $357, but not for the truth of whether Walmart would

consummate a transaction at the advertised price (i.e., whether a

customer could actually purchase the dumbbells from the retailer

at this price), this would be a nonhearsay purpose because it is

“relevant regardless of [its] truth.” (Hart, supra, 9 Cal.5th at

p. 449; accord, People v. Hopson, supra, 3 Cal.5th at p. 432.)

Thus, if admitted for this nonhearsay purpose, it could well be

that a customer could not buy the dumbbells at the advertised

price if, for example, the customer clicked the “buy now” icon on

the retailer website and learned there were no dumbbells

available or was told at the cash register that the salesperson

was unable to ring up the item at the price on the price tag. The

question, then, is whether evidence of the existence of a retailer’s

advertised price (the nonhearsay purpose) is relevant to show the

fair market value, regardless of whether the individual retailer is

willing to sell at that price or believes its price reflects the value

printout from the website) that the “value amount” was $498.

Although the use of the word “value” instead of “price” was

imprecise, it is clear from the testimony that Lee was providing

the prices listed on the retailers’ websites. Moreover, the defense

attorneys did not object to the wording of the questions, nor do

they argue on appeal that use of the word “value” in describing

the price listings rendered the responses hearsay.

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of the item (the hearsay purposes). (Hart, at pp. 447-448;

Hopson, at p. 432.) We conclude that it is. 15

As discussed, the value of stolen property under

section 487, subdivision (a), means “fair market value,” which

measures “‘the highest price obtainable in the market place’ as

between ‘a willing buyer and a willing seller, neither of whom is

forced to act.’” (Grant, supra, 57 Cal.App.5th at p. 329.) The

existence of an advertisement by a retailer to sell an item at a

stated price supports a reasonable inference a willing seller

would sell the item and a willing buyer would purchase the item

15 Because we hold the price listings were not offered for a

hearsay purpose, we do not reach the People’s contention the

listings fell within the hearsay exception for published

compilations under Evidence Code section 1340. (See Evid. Code,

§ 1340 [“Evidence of a statement, other than an opinion,

contained in a tabulation, list, directory, register, or other

published compilation is not made inadmissible by the hearsay

rule if the compilation is generally used and relied upon as

accurate in the course of a business as defined in Section 1270.”].)

We also do not address whether Lee’s testimony was inadmissible

under Evidence Code section 1523, subdivision (a), as oral

testimony offered to prove the contents of writings (the price

listings) that were available. (See Evid. Code, § 1523, subd. (a)

[“Except as otherwise provided by statute, oral testimony is not

admissible to prove the content of a writing.”].) Jose and Orlando

forfeited this objection by failing to assert it either in the trial

court or on appeal. (People v. Fuiava (2012) 53 Cal.4th 622, 721

[“‘“‘defendant’s failure to make a timely and specific objection’ on

the ground asserted on appeal makes that ground not

cognizable”’”]; People v. Jennings (2010) 50 Cal.4th 616, 654

[failure to make hearsay objection at trial forfeited claim on

appeal].)

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for the stated price. The question is not whether a specific seller

(here, Walmart, Amazon, or Gym and Fitness) was actually

willing to sell the item for the stated price or whether it valued

the item at that price because, as discussed, the fair market

value is “‘not the value of the property to any particular

individual.’” (Ibid.)

Rather, the advertised prices may be considered by the jury

as circumstantial evidence of the price at which willing sellers

and willing buyers would consummate a transaction in the

marketplace. The jury may believe, for example, that willing

sellers and buyers would agree on a $500 price for the dumbbells

by comparing that price to the prices advertised by multiple

retailers, without knowing whether those retailers would sell the

dumbbells at the advertised prices. By analogy, a car buyer

looking to buy car X may be willing to pay $35,000 for the car

after reviewing advertised prices by multiple car dealers ranging

from $30,000 to $40,000, even if the buyer intended to spend less

on a new car. And a car dealer might be willing to sell car X for

$35,000 in light of the other dealers’ advertised prices even if it

believed the car was worth $40,000.

Likewise, the fact Amazon advertised the dumbbells for

$500 is circumstantial evidence that $500 is a price obtainable in

the marketplace between a willing seller and willing buyer—a

reasonable juror could infer that if customers were not willing to

pay this price, Amazon would have offered a lower price (or not

listed the dumbbells at all). The advertised prices for the

dumbbells in the marketplace are therefore relevant to a

determination of fair market value under Grant, supra,

57 Cal.App.5th at page 320 and People v. Pena, supra,

68 Cal.App.3d at page 103. This result obtains even if the jury

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does not believe the retailers would complete a sale if a customer

clicked “buy now” or carried a box bearing a price tag to the cash

register. Moreover, although the retailers could have provided

admissible testimony as to their valuations of the dumbbells,

their opinions were not necessary to a determination of fair

market value in the marketplace. 16

In his well-reasoned concurrence, Justice Segal argues

evidence of a price listing, if not admitted for the truth that the

seller is willing to sell the item at the listed price, cannot be used

to prove fair market value because a price listing is not relevant

to a determination of value if the retailer is not willing to sell the

item at that price. (Conc. opn. post, at p. 1.) And, if the evidence

is offered to show the retailer was willing to sell at the advertised

price, under Hart, supra, 9 Cal.5th at page 447, the price listing

or price tag is being offered for a purpose that is not “independent

of the truth of the matter it asserts” (that the retailer was a

willing seller), and thus it is inadmissible hearsay. At first

glance, the reasoning in the concurrence appears to reveal a flaw

in our hearsay analysis: How can a retailer’s advertised price be

relevant if the retailer is not willing to sell at the listed price?

The answer lies in the role of the jury, which is not to determine

what Amazon or Walmart thinks the dumbbells are worth, but

16 It is undisputed that an owner’s testimony is admissible as

evidence of the value of an item. (Schroeder v. Auto Driveaway

Co. (1974) 11 Cal.3d 908, 921 [“The opinion of an owner of

personal property is in itself competent evidence of the value of

that property. . . .”]; People v. Coleman (1963) 222 Cal.App.2d

358, 361 [owner of stolen tools was qualified to testify to value of

property for purposes of proving grand theft].) There was no

evidence here showing who owned the stolen dumbbells.

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rather, to determine what value the marketplace places on the

dumbbells. As discussed, evidence of the advertised prices is

relevant to a determination of the price in the marketplace

regardless of whether each retailer—or in our earlier analogy,

each car dealer advertising car X at a price between $30,000 and

$40,000—was willing to sell the item or car at the advertised

price.

The Supreme Court recognized the relevance of price tag

evidence to determine the value of stolen items in Tijerina, supra,

1 Cal.3d 41. In that case, the defendant was convicted of grand

theft for stealing a box of clothes from a department store. The

box contained “46 packages of men’s undershorts priced at $5 a

package, 2 sweaters priced at $20 each, and one sweater priced at

$16.99. The box also contained 13 men’s sport shirts and

17 packages of undershorts, the price of which does not appear.”

(Id. at pp. 44-45.) The defendant argued “the retail price of the

property does not establish its ‘reasonable and fair market value’”

and was insufficient to surmount the grand theft threshold (then

$200). (Id. at p. 45.) The Supreme Court disagreed, holding, “In

the absence of proof . . . that the price charged by a retail store

from which merchandise is stolen does not accurately reflect the

value of the merchandise in the retail market, that price is

sufficient to establish the value of the merchandise.” (Ibid.)

More than 50 years later, the Supreme Court continues to

cite Tijerina for the proposition that a retail price is sufficient

evidence of fair market value in cases involving retail theft.

(See Romanowski, supra, 2 Cal.5th at p. 915 [citing Tijerina for

the definition of fair market value in the retail store context but

clarifying as to stolen credit cards that absent a legal retail price,

evidence of the price on the black market could be considered to

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establish fair market value].) Although Tijerina did not involve a

hearsay question, the Tijerina court’s reliance on the prices on

the price tags attached to the stolen merchandise (for which no

transaction was ever consummated) to establish the value of the

merchandise in the retail market is consistent with our

conclusion that price listings and price tags are relevant evidence

to prove value without regard to whether the store would have

consummated the transaction at that price. (Cf. Grant, supra,

57 Cal.App.5th at p. 329 [where store employee’s testimony

showed an outlet store’s pricing policy was to offer a significant

discount from a “‘comparable at’” price printed on clothing tags

and nothing was sold at “‘full price,’” substantial evidence did not

support a grand theft conviction where the People introduced the

“‘comparable at’” price tags into evidence but did not establish

that the tag value reflected fair market value].) 17

17 The cases cited by Jose to support his argument the three

retail price listings are hearsay evidence are distinguishable. In

Kitchel v. Acree (1962) 216 Cal.App.2d 119, the Court of Appeal

held in the context of a contract dispute between homeowners

and building contractors that the testimony of one of the

homeowners as to a repair estimate he received from a third-

party plastering contractor to repair the substandard installation

of a cornice was inadmissible hearsay. (Id. at pp. 123-125.)

Unlike the price advertised in the retail marketplace at issue

here, the third-party contractor’s estimate for the cost to repair

the homeowners’ property was offered for the truth of the price

the contractor would charge to repair the homeowners’ cornice;

indeed, it could serve no nonhearsay purpose because the

estimate was by its nature unique to the repair and could not

support an inference about the price at which any other

homeowners and contractors would come to agreement on any

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The Court of Appeal in In re Marriage of LaBass & Munsee

(1997) 56 Cal.App.4th 1331 utilized a similar hearsay framework

in analyzing offers in the marketplace for the purpose of

calculating a spouse’s ability to find employment. There, the

court considered whether “help wanted” advertisements in a

newspaper were hearsay when offered to show the availability of

jobs for purposes of imputing a full-time teacher’s salary to the

wife in a dissolution action in determining whether the husband’s

child support obligation should be reduced. (Id. at pp. 1335-

1336.) The family court had admitted newspaper advertisements

soliciting applications for teaching positions from candidates with

the same qualifications possessed by the wife. (Id. at pp. 1335,

1338.) The Court of Appeal concluded in affirming the reduction

in child support that the family court “properly ruled the ads

were admissible for the nonhearsay purpose of showing that

offers to bargain existed,” not for the hearsay purpose of showing

whether the wife could secure a teaching position on the

advertised terms. (Id. at p. 1338.) Similarly, here, we consider

the advertised prices for dumbbells in the retail market for the

nonhearsay purpose of showing there were offers to sell the

dumbbells in a specified price range.

We recognize that price listing and price tag evidence,

offered as circumstantial evidence of an item’s value in the

marketplace, is less reliable than a retailer’s for-the-truth

testimony as to the price at which the retailer has sold or would

sell an item (or its own valuation of the item). But the question

other plastering project. Garfinkle v. Montgomery (1952)

113 Cal.App.2d 149 is inapposite for the same reason. (See id. at

pp. 158-159 [lessor’s cost-of-repair testimony based on third-party

contractor’s estimate to repair property was hearsay].)

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before us is a threshold question of admissibility, not the

evidence’s weight or reliability. (See People v. Dalton (2019)

7 Cal.5th 166, 232 [where statement was admitted for a

nonhearsay purpose, it need not have met the reliability

requirements of a hearsay exception because a challenge to the

statement’s reliability “‘at most, goes to the weight of the

evidence, and not its admissibility’”]; People v. Merriman (2014)

60 Cal.4th 1, 72 [same].) Moreover, the People bolstered the

reliability of the evidence by introducing three retail price

listings: Walmart ($357), Amazon.com ($500), and Gym and

Fitness ($498), all of which supported the jury’s implied finding

the fair market value of the stolen dumbbells exceeded the

threshold for grand theft. 18 The defense could have introduced

evidence of lower price listings or that the subject listings were

unreliable because, for example, the retailers regularly

discounted the advertised prices. (See Grant, supra,

57 Cal.App.5th at p. 329.)

We also acknowledge that admission of price listings or

price tags for a nonhearsay purpose could result in jurors

considering the evidence for an impermissible purpose, for

example, that individual retailers are willing to sell the items for

the listed price, thereby ascribing undue weight to the evidence.

However, where evidence has a hearsay and nonhearsay purpose,

the trial court may give a limiting instruction to ensure the jury

considers the evidence for a proper purpose. (See People v. Wang

(2020) 46 Cal.App.5th 1055, 1080, fn. 9 [“When a statement is

18 We note that because 15 boxes of dumbbells were recovered

from the SUV, the People needed to prove each box of dumbbells

had a fair market value of more than $63.33 to exceed the $950

threshold.

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admitted as nonhearsay circumstantial evidence of the

declarant’s state of mind or effect on the listener, a limiting

instruction is required informing the jury that ‘the declaration is

not received for the truth of the matter stated and can only be

used for the limited purpose for which it is offered.”]; Evid. Code,

§ 355 [“When evidence is admissible . . . for one purpose and is

inadmissible . . . for another purpose, the court upon request

shall restrict the evidence to its proper scope and instruct the

jury accordingly”]; see also Hart, supra, 9 Cal.5th at p. 448 [“If

the words are admitted for a nonhearsay purpose the jury is not

allowed to consider the truth of any substantive assertion, and is

often instructed to that effect.”].) Absent a request, however, the

trial court generally is not required to give a limiting instruction.

(People v. Hajek and Vo (2014) 58 Cal.4th 1144, 1229 [absent a

request, “the trial court was under no obligation to give such

limiting instructions”], disapproved on another ground in People

v. Rangel (2016) 62 Cal.4th 1192, 1216; People v. Cowan (2010)

50 Cal.4th 401, 479.) Jose and Orlando did not request a limiting

instruction at trial, nor do they argue on appeal that one should

have been given. 19

19 Had counsel for Jose or Orlando requested a limiting

instruction, the trial court could have provided an instruction

that read something to the effect of the following: “You have

heard testimony concerning the advertised price of dumbbells

from three retailers. You may consider those advertised prices in

deciding what price a willing seller and a willing buyer would

agree upon for the dumbbells in an open market, but not as

evidence of the value the retailers placed on the dumbbells or

that the retailer would sell the dumbbells at that price.”

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The People argue price tag evidence is admissible

nonhearsay because “the price is a binding offer, a verbal act.”

The “verbal act” (or “operative fact”) hearsay rule recognizes that

statements that comprise direct evidence of the element of an

offense or cause of action are not hearsay. (See J&A Mash &

Barrel, LLC v. Superior Court (2022) 74 Cal.App.5th 1, 19 [lease

extension and sales agreements were not hearsay because

“‘documents containing operative facts, such as the words

forming an agreement, are not hearsay’”]; People v. Dell (1991)

232 Cal.App.3d 248, 259 [“statements of solicitation by a

prostitute, testified to by others, are not obnoxious to the hearsay

rule and are admissible as ‘verbal acts’, i.e., as direct evidence of

the substantive offense”].)

The concurrence finds this argument persuasive,

concluding offers to sell the dumbbells at specified prices were

not hearsay because they were verbal acts “elemental to the

formation of such an agreement” for a sale by a willing seller to a

willing buyer. (Conc. opn. post, at pp. 7-8.) However, whether an

enforceable agreement to sell resulted from the advertised prices

is not relevant to determination of the fair market value of the

dumbbells stored at Comptree. And the cases that have applied

the verbal act doctrine have done so to support a conclusion the

words uttered were not offered to prove the truth of the matter

asserted—the conclusion we reach without applying the doctrine.

As this court explained in People v. Dell, supra, 232 Cal.App.3d at

page 262, where the defendant was charged with pimping and

pandering based on the solicitation by escorts who worked for the

defendant’s company, “the statements of the escorts, testified to

by the officers, also were not offered for the truth of the matter

asserted. The statements were not offered to prove the escorts

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would actually perform these specific sex acts and at the quoted

price . . . . These statements could be admitted as ‘operative

facts’ or ‘verbal acts’ because they demonstrated an issue in the

case: that the escorts were making verbal offers to enter into

contracts of prostitution, that is, to engage in sexual intercourse

or other lewd acts for money.” We do not see a reason to extend

the verbal act doctrine, which applies to direct evidence of an

element of an offense or cause of action (such as contract

formation), to a case where the evidence is introduced as

circumstantial evidence of an element of an offense. Either way,

the evidence was not introduced for the truth of the matter

asserted. 20

Numerous appellate courts outside of California have held

that price tag evidence is not hearsay when used to establish the

value of stolen retail items. For example, in People v. Giordano

(N.Y.App.Div. 2008) 50 A.D.3d 467, 468 (Giordano) the Appellate

Division of the New York Supreme Court held testimony about

the price tag amounts on stolen jackets was admissible as

nonhearsay circumstantial evidence to establish the jackets’ fair

market value. The court explained, “The tags were not offered as

an assertion of value as distinct from selling price; as defendant

concedes, only selling price itself is at issue here. Instead, the

tags constituted circumstantial evidence of the price a shopper

20 The concurrence suggests our opinion assumes the retail

advertised prices do not constitute offers to sell. (Conc. opn. post,

at pp. 4-5, fn. 2.) The retailer’s advertised price may well be an

enforceable offer to sell, but as discussed, the issue here is not

whether Walmart or Amazon is bound to its advertised price—for

purposes of our hearsay analysis, it does not matter whether the

retailer is actually willing to sell the item.

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would have been expected to pay for the jackets. Thus, the tags

were essentially verbal acts by the store, stating an offer to sell at

a particular price.” (Ibid.) 21

The Tennessee Court of Criminal Appeals reached a similar

conclusion in Norris v. State (Tenn.Crim.App. 1971) 475 S.W.2d

553 (Norris), in which the defendant appealed his conviction for

shoplifting a television with a value exceeding $100, arguing the

only evidence of the value of the television was the hearsay

testimony of two store security officers who stated the television

had a price tag for $109.95, and it was not on a special sale. The

court affirmed the conviction, holding that “evidence that

merchandise was displayed for regular sale at a marked price

representing its retail price is sufficient circumstantial evidence

of value, where totally uncontradicted, to support a conviction

grounded upon the marked price as its value. That the television

set was displayed for sale over a period of time with a certain

price tag upon it is not hearsay, but fact; and is evidence that the

tag reflected its retail value.” (Id. at pp. 555-556.)

The New Mexico Court of Appeals in City of Albuquerque v.

Martinez (N.M.Ct.App. 1979) 604 P.2d 842, 842 adopted the

holding in Norris in affirming a shoplifting conviction based on

the testimony of a discount chain security manager that a stolen

jacket was valued at $47.97 based on the price tag that the

defendant had removed. The Court of Criminal Appeals of

Alabama in DeBruce v. State (Ala.Crim.App. 1984) 461 So.2d 889,

891-892 (DeBruce) likewise followed the reasoning of Norris,

21 Although the Giordano court referred to the price tags as

“verbal acts,” the court principally relied on the fact the price

tags were evidence of the selling price. (Giordano, supra,

50 A.D.3d at p. 468.)

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holding, consistent with the “weight of authority,” that “a price

tag attached to the stolen property at the time of the theft is

sufficient circumstantial evidence of value, where totally

uncontradicted, to support a conviction grounded upon the

marked price of its value.” 22 The court observed its finding “that

22 The DeBruce court also cited State v. White (Conn. Super.

Ct. 1981) 437 A.2d 145 and Lacy v. State (Miss. 1983) 432 So.2d

1205 in reaching its conclusion. (DeBruce v. State, supra,

461 So.2d at p. 891.) In State v. White, a Connecticut appellate

court held that price tag evidence was not hearsay because of its

inherent reliability. (State v. White, at p. 148 [“We are

unpersuaded by the argument that such tags are technically

excludable as hearsay unless qualified under the business records

exception [citations]; since the inherent unreliability of hearsay is

not present in this type of evidence. Rather, the fact that price

tags generally reflect market value may be judicially noted, since

this fact is both commonly known and capable of ready

demonstration.”].) The Mississippi Supreme Court endorsed this

reasoning in Lacy v. State, at page 1206. Likewise, the Supreme

Court of Virginia in Robinson v. Commonwealth (Va. 1999)

516 S.E.2d 475, 479 relied on State v. White in holding “the

common-sense approach to the problem is to recognize an

exception to the hearsay rule in shoplifting cases permitting the

admission into evidence of price tags regularly affixed to items of

personalty offered for sale or, in substitution, testimony

concerning the amounts shown on such tags when, as in this

case, there is no objection to such testimony on best evidence

grounds.” The court reasoned, “It is common knowledge that

department and other stores regularly affix price tags to items of

merchandise and that the tagged price is what a purchaser must

pay to acquire an item, without the opportunity to negotiate a

reduced price or to question how the tagged price was reached.

[¶] Under these circumstances, ‘the inherent unreliability of

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the price tags are not inadmissible hearsay squares with the

general rule that inscriptions or labels placed on packages for the

purpose of indicating their contents are competent evidence,

strong or weak according to the attendant circumstances, of their

actual contents.” (Id. at p. 892 [price sticker on stolen cup was

admissible to show value of the stolen property, although store

detective’s opinion based on observation of the price sticker was

not competent evidence].)

And in State v. Pulver (Or.Ct.App. 2004) 95 P.3d 250, 250,

the Oregon Court of Appeals held that evidence of the price of

stolen shoes, in the form of the store security guard’s testimony

as to their price tags and electronic scans of the product bar

codes, was not hearsay. The court held that under Oregon law,

“to prove the market value of stolen wholesale or retail property

in a theft prosecution, the state must establish the value of the

property in trade, not the value placed on property by its owner.”

(Id. at p. 251.) Therefore, “the state [had] to produce evidence of

the price at which the shoes likely would have sold in the

hearsay is not present.’ [Citation.] Therefore, it would be

unreasonable and unnecessary to require that in each case a

merchant must send to court not only a security person but also

other personnel to establish the reliability of the information

shown on a price tag affixed to an item that has been stolen.” (Id.

at pp. 478-479.) Although the California Supreme Court has

recognized that a Court of Appeal has the power to develop new

hearsay exceptions where evidence “possesses an intrinsic

reliability” and for which there is a “substantial need” (In re

Cindy L. (1997) 17 Cal.4th 15, 28), we need not create a hearsay

exception for price tag evidence because we conclude the evidence

is admissible for a nonhearsay purpose when offered as

circumstantial evidence of the fair market value of a stolen item.

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ordinary course of business at the time and place of the theft.

Admitted for that purpose, the shoes’ prices, as revealed by the

price tags and the scans of the [bar codes], were not out-of-court

assertions of the fact to be proved, but were themselves direct

evidence of the relevant fact.” (Id. at p. 252.)

We have found few states (and Jose and Orlando do not

identify any) in which price tag evidence has been found to be

inadmissible hearsay. In People v. Codding (Colo. 1976) 551 P.2d

192, 193, the Colorado Supreme Court concluded that price tags

for stolen power tools, about which a department store detective

testified, “should have been excluded as hearsay in this case

because they constituted a written record prepared by someone

other than the detective and were offered for the truth of the

matter asserted on the tags, namely, the retail cost of the

merchandise.” However, the holding in Codding was superseded

by statute, which now provides, consistent with California law

under the Supreme Court’s holding in Tijerina, supra, 1 Cal.3d at

page 45, that the price charged by a retail store is sufficient to

establish the stolen item’s value. (See Colo. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 18-

4-414 [“[I]n all cases where theft occurs, evidence of the value of

the thing involved may be established through the sale price of

other similar property and may include, but shall not be limited

to, testimony regarding affixed labels and tags, signs, shelf tags,

and notices tending to indicate the price of the thing involved.”],

italics added.) The Colorado statute goes even further and

clarifies in section 18-4-414, subdivision (2), that “[h]earsay

evidence shall not be excluded in determining the value of the

thing involved.”

In Stephans v. State (Nev. 2011) 262 P.3d 727, 731-732, the

Nevada Supreme Court surveyed many of the foregoing cases and

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others and concluded that courts have either held price tag

evidence is nonhearsay circumstantial evidence, as in Giordano

and Norris, or they have held such evidence is hearsay but “do[es]

not require much to overcome the hearsay bar,” for example

through the business records exception (e.g., State v. McPhie

(Idaho 1983) 662 P.2d 233, 236), or on the ground they are “self-

authenticating” (e.g., People v. Mikolajewski (Ill.App.Ct. 1995)

649 N.E.2d 499, 504). The court concluded the testimony of a

security officer as to his memory of what the price tags on stolen

bottles of cologne stated did not fall within any recognized

hearsay exception for price tag evidence because the price tags

were not admitted into evidence, and thus, there was no

foundation for the security officer’s stated memory of the

numbers on the price tags. (Stephans, at pp. 732-733 [security

officer’s testimony presented a “textbook case” of hearsay because

security officer wanted “to testify to the value of goods in reliance

on the price tags affixed by a merchant. For this purpose the

price tags are hearsay and a lay witness could not testify to such

an opinion’”].) However, as discussed, we conclude the price tag

evidence here was admissible not as the foundation for a lay

opinion, but as evidence of the retailers’ advertised prices for the

dumbbells. Stephans is of limited utility because of the court’s

focus on the foundation for the security officer’s testimony, an

issue we do not reach because of the lack of an objection on this

basis.

In sum, the weight of out-of-state authority is consistent

with the nonhearsay use of price tag evidence. Although

appellate courts have articulated varying rationales for

admissibility, for over half a century courts throughout the

country have concluded the price at which an item is advertised

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for sale in the retail marketplace, whether on a price tag or

otherwise, provides admissible evidence of the fair market value

of the item for the purpose of determining whether a theft offense

is a felony or misdemeanor. 23

C. Substantial Evidence Supports Orlando’s Conviction

Orlando contends the evidence showed only that he was

present at the scene on the morning of the theft, not that he

participated in the theft perpetrated by Jose. Substantial

evidence supports Orlando’s conviction.

First, there was substantial evidence Jose and a second

man perpetrated the theft. The surveillance video showed Jose

and a second man entering the Comptree facility in the SUV

around 1:30 on Saturday morning. Lee testified the two men

were not delivery drivers and were not authorized to move cargo.

The second man got out of the SUV first, put on a headlamp, and

exited the frame of the video next to the trailer from which the

dumbbells were taken. Although the second man is not seen

23 Orlando contends, for the first time on appeal, that

admission of the price listings violated his rights under the

confrontation clause. But under Crawford v. Washington (2004)

541 U.S. 36, the confrontation clause bars admission only of

testimonial hearsay. (Id. at pp. 68-69; see id. at p. 59, fn. 9

[confrontation clause “does not bar the use of testimonial

statements for purposes other than establishing the truth of the

matter asserted”].) The price listings are neither hearsay nor

testimonial. (See People v. Cage (2007) 40 Cal.4th 965, 984 [a

statement is testimonial if it was “given and taken primarily for

the purpose ascribed to testimony—to establish or prove some

past fact for possible use in a criminal trial”].)

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again in the video, the jury could reasonably infer he was still

present and aiding Jose because the beam of a headlamp can be

seen illuminating Jose’s path during at least two of his trips

between the loading dock and the SUV. Moreover, there is strong

circumstantial evidence the second man was engaged in moving

the dumbbell boxes out of the trailer and placing them either on

the loading dock or handing them directly to Jose. Deputy

Bynum testified each of the boxes was “very heavy,” and the

loading dock platform was about four feet above the ground level

where Jose was walking back and forth to the SUV. Based on the

short interval—mere seconds—during which Jose was out of the

frame between each of his 15 trips to the SUV, it would have

been impossible for Jose to climb up onto the loading dock,

remove a large, heavy box from the trailer, set the box down on

the loading dock, and climb back down to the ground level to

complete the trip to the SUV. The only reasonable inference is

that the second man perpetrated the theft by bringing the boxes

to Jose. (See People v. Davis, supra, 19 Cal.4th at p. 305 [for the

purpose of proving theft by larceny, “the slightest movement of

the property constitutes a carrying away or asportation.”].)

Second, there was substantial evidence the second man was

Orlando. Deputy Muehlich conducted a search of the Comptree

facility after Jose was apprehended, and 35 minutes later he

found Orlando hiding with his body balanced on the axle of a

truck parked at the other end of the same loading dock. Orlando

had a headlamp in his pocket, and his clothing, including a

hooded jacket, was consistent with clothing worn by the

passenger of the SUV in the surveillance video. Orlando’s wallet

was found between the passenger seat and center console of the

SUV.

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On appeal, Orlando argues there was an innocent

explanation for his presence at the scene, which he explained to

Deputy Muehlich—that he had borrowed his friend Rick’s car (a

Nissan Versa) to get to the area, but he was sheltering from the

rain waiting for Jose to pick him up, and he fell asleep. But

Orlando was unable to provide any information about Rick to

Deputy Muehlich except that Rick was from Pomona, and Deputy

Muehlich did not find a Nissan Versa in the vicinity. Orlando

also did not know his present location, and his explanation that

he climbed on the axle of the truck to get out of the rain and then

fell asleep was implausible and inconsistent with the evidence

linking him to the SUV. In any event, we view the evidence in

the light most favorable to the judgment, and, as discussed, there

was substantial evidence of Orlando’s involvement, regardless of

whether the jury could have drawn a contrary inference he was

simply waiting under the truck for Jose to pick him up. (People v.

Westerfield, supra, 6 Cal.5th at p. 713; People v. Penunuri, supra,

5 Cal.5th at p. 142.)

D. The Trial Court Erred in Ordering Jose and Orlando To

Pay the Cost of Probation Services

Jose and Orlando contend the trial court erred when it

ordered them to “[o]bey all rules and regulations of the Probation

Department including paying the cost of probation services based

on your ability to pay” because probation services fees are not

authorized following the enactment of Assembly Bill 1869. 24 The

24 “Assembly Bill 1869 abrogated the authority to impose and

collect 23 different administrative fees, including . . . the

probation supervision fee . . . . It did so by adding section 1465.9

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People concede Jose and Orlando were sentenced after the

effective date of Assembly Bill 1869, and therefore, probation fees

were not authorized. However, the People contend the minute

order of the sentencing hearing did not include an order to pay

probation fees, and “the now-repealed probation services fee was

not imposed as a term or condition of probation as it was waived

based on the appellants’ inability to pay.”

Contrary to the People’s contention, the trial court orally

imposed as a condition of probation that Jose and Orlando pay

the costs of probation services, subject to their ability to pay.

Therefore, the court must correct the oral pronouncement of

judgment to reflect that Jose and Orlando are not responsible for

paying the costs of probation. The People are correct that the

minute order omits imposition of the unauthorized probation

services fee, but correction is warranted because “the oral

pronouncement of sentence controls over a subsequently entered

minute order.” (People v. Sanchez (2019) 38 Cal.App.5th 907,

919; accord, People v. Farell (2002) 28 Cal.4th 381, 384, fn. 2.)

Moreover, although the court found Jose and Orlando had a

present inability to pay court fees and a crime prevention fine,

stayed the restitution fine pending proof of ability to pay, and in

to the Penal Code . . . . [Citation.] Section 1465.9, subdivision (a)

provides, ‘On and after July 1, 2021, the balance of any court-

imposed costs pursuant to [s]ection 987.4, subdivision (a) of

[s]ection 987.5, [s]ections 987.8, 1203, 1203.1e, 1203.016,

1203.018, 1203.1b, 1208.2, 1210.15, 3010.8, 4024.2, and 6266, as

those sections read on June 30, 2021, shall be unenforceable and

uncollectible and any portion of a judgment imposing those costs

shall be vacated.’” (People v. Greeley (2021) 70 Cal.App.5th 609,

625.) Section 1203.1b formerly authorized imposition of the

probation supervision fee. (Greeley, at p. 625, fn. 3.)

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its minute order stated that “all other mandatory fees are waived

based on an inability to pay,” none of these orders superseded the

court’s controlling oral order that Jose and Orlando “pay[] the

cost of probation services based on [their] ability to pay . . . .” In

addition, the ability of Jose and Orlando to pay the fees could

change during their terms of probation.

Although we recognize the probation department is no

longer authorized to recover its costs following the enactment of

Assembly Bill 1869, Jose and Orlando will have no efficient

redress if they are improperly charged for probation services in

light of the defective order. (See People v. Greeley (2021)

70 Cal.App.5th 609, 626 [“although the unpaid balance of the

identified fees is no longer enforceable and collectible, [Assembly

Bill 1869] also mandates that any portion of a judgment imposing

those fees be vacated”].)

DISPOSITION

The judgment is affirmed. We direct the trial court to

correct its August 23, 2021 oral pronouncement of judgment to

reflect that Jose and Orlando are not responsible for paying the

costs of probation services.

FEUER, J.

We concur:

PERLUSS, P. J.

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SEGAL, J., Concurring.

The majority opinion’s treatment of the hearsay issue here

is thorough, scholarly, and well-written. And I agree with its

conclusion the warehouse manager’s testimony concerning online

retail prices for the dumbbells was not hearsay. But I do not

agree with the way the majority reaches that conclusion.

According to the majority, the manager’s testimony about

the prices of the dumbbells he saw on Amazon.com,

Walmart.com, and Gymandfitness.com was not hearsay because

the People did not offer it to prove “the truth of whether [those

retailers] would consummate a transaction at the advertised

price” or believed the advertised price reflected the dumbbells’

value, but to prove the retailers advertised the dumbbells at

those prices. (Maj. opn. ante, at p. 17.) The majority states that

“the existence of a retail advertised price (the nonhearsay

purpose) is relevant to show the fair market value” of the

dumbbells, “regardless of whether the individual retailer is

willing to sell at that price or believes its price reflects the value

of the item (the hearsay purposes).” (Id. at pp. 17-18.) That last

statement doesn’t sound right to me. If an online retailer is not

willing to sell the item at the advertised price or does not believe

the advertised price reflects the item’s value, then the advertised

price does not tend to prove or disprove anything about the fair

market value of the item. (See People v. Wright (2021) 12 Cal.5th

419, 448 [“Evidence is relevant if it has a ‘tendency in reason to

prove or disprove any disputed fact that is of consequence to the

determination of the action.’”].)

The majority concludes otherwise, suggesting the “answer

lies in the role of the jury.” 1 (Maj. opn. ante, at p. 20.) The

majority reasons a “jury may believe, for example, that a willing

seller and willing buyer would agree on a $500 price for the

dumbbells by comparing that price to the prices advertised by

multiple retailers, without knowing whether the specific retailers

would sell the dumbbells at the advertised prices.” (Id. at p. 19.)

In other words, as I understand it, the majority supposes a jury

may reasonably infer merely from the fact that retailers have

listed prices on the internet that a willing buyer and a willing

seller—having seen the prices, but having no knowledge (and

thus, presumably, no belief) about whether the retailers would

actually sell at those prices—would agree on a price comparable

to the ones listed. I don’t think that’s a reasonable inference.

Suppose, for example, the advertised prices are substantially

lower than what the advertisers are in fact willing to sell for. If

we assume, as we must, our hypothetical willing seller knows

this (see Cheng v. Coastal L.B. Associates, LLC (2021)

69 Cal.App.5th 112, 123 [“‘fair market value’ under California

law is the price at which the property would change hands

between a willing buyer and a willing seller when the former is

not under any compulsion to buy and the latter is not under any

compulsion to sell, and both parties have reasonable knowledge

of the relevant facts”]; Children’s Hospital Central California v.

Blue Cross of California (2014) 226 Cal.App.4th 1260, 1274 [“fair

market value, is the price that ‘“a willing buyer would pay to a

willing seller, neither being under compulsion to buy or sell, and

1 An odd place to look for answers to questions about

hearsay.

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both having full knowledge of all pertinent facts”’”]), there is no

reason the hypothetical seller would agree to a comparable price.

To clarify: I think the majority may have succeeded

(barely) in identifying a potential nonhearsay purpose for

introducing evidence of the online retailers’ price listings,

namely, to prove those listings’ mere “existence.” I just don’t

believe that purpose—as the majority has so narrowly limited

it—is relevant to determining the dumbbells’ fair market value.

In my view, to be relevant, the evidence of the price listings must

tend to prove what the majority understands to be the “truth”

they assert: the retailers’ willingness to sell the dumbbells at the

stated prices and, ultimately, the dumbbells’ value. That is, the

price listing evidence is only relevant if it serves what the

majority has identified as its hearsay purpose. Under California

law, even when there is a nonhearsay purpose for admitting an

out-of-court statement, the statement is hearsay if the proponent

offers it to prove the truth it asserts. (See Hart v. Keenan

Properties, Inc. (2020) 9 Cal.5th 442, 447 [“‘“The first and most

basic requirement for applying the not-for-the-truth

limitation . . . is that the out-of-court statement must be offered

for some purpose independent of the truth of the matters it

asserts.”’”]; People v. Hopson (2017) 3 Cal.5th 424, 432 [same].)

Why, then, do I agree the evidence of the online retailers’

prices was not hearsay? To review: In looking to the “reasonable

and fair market value” to determine the value of property taken

in a theft offense (Pen. Code, § 484, subd. (a)), courts consider

that the “fair market value of an item is ‘the highest price

obtainable in the market place’ as between ‘a willing buyer and a

willing seller, neither of whom is forced to act.’” (People v. Grant

(2020) 57 Cal.App.5th 323, 329; see People v. Romanowski (2017)

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2 Cal.5th 903, 915 [determining the reasonable and fair market

value of stolen access card information “requires courts to

identify how much [the information] would sell for”].) “When you

have a willing buyer and a willing seller, neither of whom is

forced to act, the price they agree upon is the highest price

obtainable for the article in the open market.” (People v. Pena

(1977) 68 Cal.App.3d 100, 104; accord, People v. Seals (2017)

14 Cal.App.5th 1210, 1216.)

Like the majority, I consider the price listings introduced

here to be “evidence of a retailer’s offer to sell the [dumbbells] for

a specified price, for the purpose of inviting a marketplace

transaction.” (Maj. opn. ante, at p. 17.) But I would go further:

By all appearances, those price listings were offers to sell the

dumbbells at the stated prices. (See Donovan v. RRL Corp.

(2001) 26 Cal.4th 261, 271 (Donovan) [“The determination of

whether a particular communication constitutes an operative

offer, rather than an inoperative step in the preliminary

negotiation of a contract, depends upon all the surrounding

circumstances.”]; id. at p. 272 [advertisements may constitute

offers “where they invite the performance of a specific act without

further communication and leave nothing for negotiation”];

Nguyen v. Barnes & Noble, Inc. (C.D.Cal., June 16, 2015)

2015 WL 12766130, at p. 4 [online retailer’s display of “‘HP

TouchPad Tablet with 16GB Memory’ for ‘$101.95 Online Price’”

was an offer to sell because, being “‘clear, definite, and explicit’ as

to all essential terms—namely, the item to be sold, the price, and

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the manner of acceptance—it ‘left nothing open for

negotiation’”].) 2

These offers by actual retailers to sell the dumbbells at

stated prices were circumstantial evidence of a hypothetical

agreement—between a willing buyer and a willing seller—that

would establish the highest price obtainable in the marketplace

for the dumbbells. (See Long Beach Memorial Medical Center v.

Kaiser Foundation Health Plan, Inc. (2021) 71 Cal.App.5th 323,

328 [fair market value is “that amount that ‘hypothetical buyers

and sellers’ would pay in a ‘hypothetical transaction’”]; People v.

Seals, supra, 14 Cal.App.5th at p. 1220 [in calculating the value

of property stolen from a commercial establishment,

“[d]etermining the fair market value of an item involves a

hypothetical transaction between an informed buyer and seller”];

see also People v. Grant, supra, 57 Cal.App.5th at p. 329 [fair

market value may be established by circumstantial evidence].)

And that’s where my hearsay analysis would end. For purposes

2 The majority appears to view the price listings as

advertisements, which “are not typically treated as offers, but

merely as invitations to bargain.” (Harris v. Time, Inc. (1987)

191 Cal.App.3d 449, 455; see Donovan, supra, 26 Cal.4th at

p. 271 [“Some courts have stated that an advertisement . . .

generally does not constitute an offer, but rather is presumed to

be an invitation to consider, examine, and negotiate.”].) “There

is, however, a fundamental exception to this rule: an

advertisement can constitute an offer, and form the basis of a

unilateral contract, if it calls for performance of a specific act

without further communication and leaves nothing for further

negotiation.” (Harris, at p. 455; see Donovan, at p. 272.) The

testimony regarding the prices displayed by Amazon.com and the

other retailers here does not suggest they were invitations to

bargain or left anything to negotiate.

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of proving the existence of an agreement, an offer is not a

statement whose evidentiary value depends on its “truth,” but a

nonhearsay “verbal act” or “operative fact” whose evidentiary

value derives from whether it occurred. (People v. Dell (1991)

232 Cal.App.3d 248, 258-262; see People v. Fields (1998)

61 Cal.App.4th 1063, 1069 [“‘“There is a well-established

exception or departure from the hearsay rule applying to cases in

which the very fact in controversy is whether certain things were

said or done and not as to whether these things were true or

false, and in these cases the words or acts are admissible not as

hearsay, but as original evidence.’””].)

As we explained in People v. Dell, supra, 232 Cal.App.3d

248, where we held testimony of “escorts’ statements concerning

the sex acts they would perform for [a] fee” was not inadmissible

hearsay because the escorts’ statements were “admissible as

‘verbal acts’ or ‘operative facts’” (id. at p. 258): “Words of

solicitation for prostitution are essentially words of offer and

acceptance in the formation of a contract for sex in exchange for

money. When trying to prove the existence of an oral contract

the words the offeror uttered in making the offer clearly are

admissible as nonhearsay to prove an essential element of the

contract.” (Id. at p. 261.) Other cases are in accord. (See, e.g.,

Grobeson v. City of Los Angeles (2010) 190 Cal.App.4th 778, 793

[“exchange of words and telegrams by parties negotiating a

contract ‘ . . . were verbal acts establishing a legal relationship,’”

and “‘evidence of this type “. . . is circumstantial, not testimonial;

and it is therefore not obnoxious to the Hearsay Rule, nor needs

for its admission any Exception to that rule”’”]; Jazayeri v. Mao

(2009) 174 Cal.App.4th 301, 316 [“documents containing

operative facts, such as the words forming an agreement, are not

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hearsay”]; People v. Jimenez (1995) 38 Cal.App.4th 795, 802

[“[a]n operative fact, such as words forming an agreement, is not

hearsay”]; Skelly v. Richman (1970) 10 Cal.App.3d 844, 858 [“oral

and written statements of the negotiating parties were verbal

acts establishing a legal relationship” and therefore not hearsay];

see also Faigin v. Signature Group Holdings, Inc. (2012)

211 Cal.App.4th 726, 749 [employer’s oral assurances of job

security were not hearsay because they were, “in and of

themselves, evidence of the existence of . . . an implied promise”

to terminate only for good cause]; People v. Nelson (1985)

166 Cal.App.3d 1209, 1215 [statement of consent to search a

vehicle was not hearsay because “[i]t is the saying of the words of

consent that is the issue involved, just as the saying of the words

of a contract is nonhearsay and becomes the relevant issue

involved to determine whether there is a contract”].)

I see—and the majority offers—no reason these principles

should not apply equally to evidence introduced to establish the

hypothetical agreement that serves as the basis for determining

an item’s fair market value. As offers to sell the dumbbells at

stated prices, the online retailers’ price listings were verbal acts

(or operative facts) elemental to the formation of such an

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agreement. 3 Therefore, the testimony concerning those offers

was not hearsay, and the trial court did not err in admitting it. 4

SEGAL, J.

3 Evidently responding to this sentence, the majority asserts:

“However, whether an enforceable agreement to sell resulted

from the listed offers is not relevant to determination of the fair

market value of the dumbbells . . . .” (Maj. opn. ante, at p. 26.)

But my sentence does not refer to an “enforceable agreement”;* it

refers to “such an agreement,” i.e., a hypothetical agreement

between a willing buyer and a willing seller. Which the majority

and I agree is relevant to determining fair market value.

* An enforceable agreement would require acceptance of the

offer to sell, and there is no evidence here of acceptance.

4 I agree with the majority that substantial evidence

supported Orlando’s conviction for theft and that the trial court

erred in ordering Jose and Orlando to pay the cost of probation

services.

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