Opinion

WILLIAM JEFFREY BURNETT V. CONSECO LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY

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District Court, S.D. Indiana
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experts may "give a dissertation or exposition of . . . principles relevant to the case, leaving the trier of fact to apply them to the facts"

How later courts described this case

  • experts may "give a dissertation or exposition of . . . principles relevant to the case, leaving the trier of fact to apply them to the facts"
  • affirming the exclusion of "a bare conclusion"
  • When "a trial judge conducts a bench trial, the judge need not conduct a Daubert (or Rule 702) analysis before presentation of the evidence, even though he must determine admissibility at some point."
  • affirming the exclusion of expert testimony that "was far more likely to confuse the jury than to help it"

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The opinion

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF INDIANA

INDIANAPOLIS DIVISION

WILLIAM JEFFREY BURNETT, )

JOE H CAMP, )

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Plaintiffs, )

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v. ) No. 1:18-cv-00200-JPH-KMB

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CNO FINANCIAL GROUP, INC., )

CNO SERVICES LLC, )

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Defendants. )

SEALED ORDER ON MOTIONS TO EXCLUDE EXPERT TESTIMONY

Plaintiffs William Burnett and Joe Camp have filed a motion to exclude

portions of expert testimony from Timothy Pfeifer and Mary Jo Hudson. Dkt.

475. CNO Financial Group and CNO Services ("CNO Defendants") have filed

motions to exclude portions of expert testimony from Mark Browne and Robert

Muriel. Dkt. 467; dkt. 468. For the reasons below, Plaintiffs' motion to

exclude is GRANTED, dkt. [475]; and the CNO Defendants' motions to exclude

are GRANTED in part and DENIED in part as to Mark Browne, dkt. [467], and

GRANTED as to Robert Muriel, dkt. [468].

I.

Facts and Background

William Burnett and Joe Camp are former holders of certain "LifeTrend"

life insurance policies. See dkt. 449-1; dkt. 449-2. They brought this case

alleging that Conseco Life Insurance Company1 breached their Policies by

1 The Court has approved a class action settlement and entered final judgment as to

Conseco Life Insurance Company. Dkt. 237; dkt. 251.

announcing and implementing changes in the calculation of Policy premiums

and expense charges, which caused thousands of policyholders to surrender

their Policies. Dkt. 108-1. Plaintiffs also allege that the CNO Defendants are

liable under an alter ego theory. Id. at 76.

This case is set for bifurcated trials: a jury trial on liability for breach of

contract to begin June 16, 2025, and a bench trial on alter ego liability to begin

August 25, 2025. Dkt. 514. The CNO Defendants plan to call as witnesses

Timothy Pfeifer as an expert in life-insurance policy development and Mary Jo

Hudson as an expert in insurance regulation. Plaintiffs plan to call Mark

Browne as an expert in insurance, risk management, and actuarial science,

and Robert Muriel as an expert in accounting and corporate governance.

Plaintiffs have filed a motion to exclude portions of expert testimony from Mr.

Pfeifer and Ms. Hudson. Dkt. 475. The CNO Defendants have filed motions to

exclude portions of expert testimony from Dr. Browne and Mr. Muriel. Dkt.

467; dkt. 468.

II.

Applicable Law

To testify as an expert, a witness must be qualified "by knowledge, skill,

experience, training, or education." Fed. R. Evid. 702; Hall v. Flannery, 840

F.3d 922, 926 (7th Cir. 2016). General qualifications are not enough; a

foundation for answering specific questions is required. Hall, 840 F.3d at 926.

A witness qualified with respect to the specific question being asked may give

opinion testimony "if the proponent demonstrates to the court that it is more

likely than not that":

a) The expert's scientific, technical, or other specialized

knowledge will help the trier of fact to understand

the evidence or to determine a fact in issue;

b) The testimony is based on sufficient facts or data;

c) The testimony is the product of reliable principles

and methods; and

d) The expert's opinion reflects a reliable application of

the principles and methods to the facts of the case.

Fed. R. Evid. 702; Hall, 840 F.3d at 926. In short, proponents of expert

evidence must "demonstrate by a preponderance of the evidence that their

[experts'] opinions are reliable." Fed. R. Evid. 702 comm. note to 2023 am.

These requirements are evaluated under the two-step Daubert

framework. Robinson v. Davol Inc., 913 F.3d 690, 695 (7th Cir. 2019) (citing

Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharm., Inc., 509 U.S. 579, 593–94 (1993)). For the first

step, the proponent must "establish that the proposed witness would testify to

valid scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge." Id. If step one is

satisfied, the proponent "must then show that the expert testimony will assist

the trier of fact." Id. For this step, the Court "evaluates whether the proposed .

. . testimony fits the issue to which the expert is testifying." Id.

III.

Analysis

A. Timothy Pfeifer and Mary Jo Hudson

The CNO Defendants plan to call Mr. Pfeifer as an expert in life-

insurance policy development, see dkt. 477-1 at 5 (Pfeifer report), and Ms.

Hudson as an expert in insurance regulation, see dkt. 477-3 at 4–5 (Hudson

report). Plaintiffs do not challenge either witness's qualifications. See dkt.

479. Instead, they argue that Mr. Pfeifer and Ms. Hudson should be prohibited

from opining on legal conclusions about the meaning and legal effects of Policy

terms. Id. at 1–7. The CNO Defendants respond that Mr. Pfeifer's and Ms.

Hudson's opinions are not legal conclusions but "opinions regarding the

regulatory and actuarial bases for the [Policies] and the administrative changes

at issue in this litigation." Dkt. 490 at 2.

"It is the role of the judge, not an expert witness, to instruct the jury on

the applicable principles of law, and it is the role of the jury to apply those

principles of law to the facts in evidence." Jiminez v. City of Chicago, 732 F.3d

710, 721 (7th Cir. 2013). "As a general rule, accordingly, an expert may not

offer legal opinions." Id. That includes opinions "about the meaning of . . .

contracts" and their legal implications and effects. RLJCS Enters., Inc. v. Prof'l

Benefit Tr. Multiple Emp'r Welfare Benefit Plan & Tr., 487 F.3d 494, 498 (7th

Cir. 2007).

Plaintiffs identify fourteen opinions as examples from Mr. Pfeifer and Ms.

Hudson that improperly opine about the Policies' meaning and the

permissibility of Conseco Life Insurance Company's actions under the Policies.

Dkt. 479 at 4–7. For example:

• In my actuarial reading of the policies, there is no provision in

the contracts or actuarial memoranda which indicates or

suggests that once the [Optional Premium Payment] Provision is

exercised, that the contract is paid-up or that a lower premium

can be permanently paid.

• The actions taken by [Conseco Life] were consistent with actions

permitted under the contract, in my opinion as an experienced

actuary.

• The contract language under the LifeTrend contracts allowed

[Conseco Life] substantial flexibility to manage its [cost-of-

insurance] deductions.

• In my opinion, Plaintiffs' theory grossly mischaracterizes the

terms of the Policies by suggesting that election of OPP status

entitled them to permanently stop paying premiums under their

Policies.

Id. (quoting Pfeifer's and Hudson's reports). Whenever these opinions offer

legal conclusions about what the Policies mean and their legal effects on

Conseco Life and the Policyholders, they are inadmissible. See RLJCS Enters.,

Inc., 487 F.3d at 498; Benefit Res. Grp., Inc. v. Westfield Ins. Co., No. 2:11-cv-

64, 2013 WL 12199941 at *3 (N.D. Ind. Jan. 7, 2013) ("An expert is not

permitted to provide expert testimony about the meaning of contracts, legal

implications of conduct, or the scope of the insurer's duty under an insurance

policy."); Jakobovits v. PHL Variable Ins. Co., 645 F. Supp. 3d 95, 117–18

(E.D.N.Y. 2022) (excluding similar opinions from Mr. Pfeifer as "improper legal

conclusion[s]").

Indeed, the CNO Defendants do not directly address these opinions

about the specific meaning of policy terms and what they required of Conseco

Life. See dkt. 490 at 25–27. They instead contend that Mr. Pfeifer can testify

about industry terms of art and actuarial work on the LifeTrend Policies and

similar policies. Id. And that Ms. Hudson can testify about industry terms of

art and "how insurance regulations and insurance industry custom and

practice inform the terms of the LifeTrend 3 and 4 policies and the

administrative changes at issue." Id. at 17. It is true that experts can testify

about industry terms of art, professional standards, and typical practices. See

Delta Mining Corp. v. Big Rivers Elec. Corp., 18 F.3d 1398, 1402 (7th Cir. 1994);

cf. Lapsley v. Xtek, Inc., 689 F.3d 802, 817 (7th Cir. 2012) ("Expert testimony

by engineers concerning what an ordinary engineer would understand and do

is common-place in patent law."). For example, in Jakobovits, the court

explained that Mr. Pfeifer's opinions about "industry standards" on insurance

rates and regulations were not inadmissible as legal conclusions. 645 F. Supp.

3d. at 117. But industry practice and terms of art are not what Plaintiffs seek

to exclude here—instead, they argue that Mr. Pfeifer and Ms. Hudson may not

opine on legal conclusions about these Policies and what they allow. See dkt.

496 at 1. As explained above, those legal conclusions are inadmissible.

Mr. Pfeifer and Ms. Hudson therefore may not opine about their

interpretations of language in the specific Policies at issue or about whether

actions would or would not violate the terms of the Policies.2 For the same

reasons, Ms. Hudson may not opine that the LifeTrend Regulatory Settlement

Agreement bars any of Plaintiffs' claims or that the existence of regulatory

frameworks should prevent those claims. See dkt. 479 at 7–9. Indeed, the

CNO Defendants agree that Ms. Hudson "has no opinion on the Court's

jurisdiction," and instead intends to opine on regulatory background, including

regulatory scrutiny related to the Policies. Dkt. 490 at 21–22.

2 This does not restrict opinions about whether certain terms are generally industry

terms of art, separate from whether these Policies used those terms in that way.

Beyond these restrictions, Mr. Pfeifer's and Ms. Hudson's testimony

about terms of art; industry practice, including the role of actuaries; regulatory

background; and the development of insurance policies may "be tested before

the jury with the familiar tools of vigorous cross-examination, presentation of

contrary evidence, and careful instruction on the burden of proof." Lapsley,

689 F.3d at 805, 809 (experts may "give a dissertation or exposition of . . .

principles relevant to the case, leaving the trier of fact to apply them to the

facts"). Plaintiffs' motion to exclude portions of Mr. Pfeifer's and Ms. Hudson's

expert testimony is therefore GRANTED to the extent of this order. Dkt. [475].

B. Mark Browne

1. Actuarial opinions

Plaintiffs plan to call Dr. Browne as an expert in insurance, risk

management, and actuarial science. See dkt. 492-1 at 1 (Browne report). He

offers opinions that (1) the Policies were heavily front-loaded, (2) Conseco Life

increased cost of insurance ("COI") rates even though mortality rates were

improving, (3) the October 2010 COI increase was designed to recover prior

losses, and (4) Conseco Life increased COI rates because of lower-than-

expected interest rates. Id. at 14–21. The CNO Defendants challenge these

opinions about "actuarial issues" because Dr. Browne is not an actuary, lacks

relevant experience, and is merely restating evidence in the record. Dkt. 473 at

24–25. Plaintiffs respond that Dr. Browne is qualified by decades of experience

as an economist working with actuarial issues. Dkt. 493 at 1–3.

While Dr. Browne is not an actuary and has not drafted life-insurance

policies, he is an applied economist who has published research in actuarial

journals. Dkt. 491-1 at 7 (Browne Dep. at 46). He has also explained that two

of his opinions are economic. First, his report opines that the Policies are

heavily front-loaded because they "anticipate[d] higher collections by Conseco

relative to death benefit payouts in the early years followed by higher payouts

relative to Conseco's collections in the later years." Dkt. 492-1 at 15. Second,

he opines that Conseco Life raised COI rates because of lower-than-expected

interest rates, which from "an economic perspective" could be "characterized as

a transfer of interest rate risk from Conseco to the policyholders." Id. at 21–22.

These two opinions involve "insurance markets and risk," including

pricing risk, which Dr. Browne studies as an economist. Dkt. 491-2 at 8

(Browne Dep. at 22). And the CNO Defendants cite no authority supporting

their view that Dr. Browne's experience as an applied economist does not

qualify him. See dkt. 473 at 24–25; dkt. 499 at 19–20 (citing cases for only the

general proposition that experts may not testify outside their realm of

expertise). While life-insurance companies hire actuaries instead of economists

to do similar work, that does not preclude a qualified economist from offering

these opinions. See Gayton v. McCoy, 593 F.3d 610, 617 (7th Cir. 2010) (What

matters is not the title or specialty, but whether the expert "has the adequate

education, skill, and training."). Indeed, these two opinions are about how the

Policies and COI increases functioned at a general economic level, placing them

within Dr. Brown's qualifications. See United States ex rel. Calderon v.

Carrington Mort. Servs., 70 F.4th 968, 974 (7th Cir. 2023) (expert lacking some

mortgage-underwriting qualifications could testify "about underwriting

practices generally").

Similarly, Dr. Browne's lack of experience drafting, designing, or pricing

life-insurance products does not preclude these opinions' admissibility. See id.

("Rule 702 does not suggest that specialized knowledge can be developed only

in certain ways . . . . [E]xperts and expertise come in many different forms.");

Anderson v. Raymond Corp., 61 F.4th 505, 509 (7th Cir. 2023). While

"nuanced, multi-factored analyses" about life-insurance policies might be

outside Dr. Browne's experience, he is qualified to offer more general opinions

about the Policies' front-loading and the relationship between COI increases

and interest rates. See Calderon, 70 F.4th at 975; Gayton, 593 F.3d at 617–18

(generalist experts may offer opinions "if [they have] the adequate education,

skill, and training to reach them"). And the opinions go beyond merely reciting

evidence in the record, because Dr. Browne draws his own economic

conclusions from the facts he considered. See dkt. 492-1 at 15–16 (explaining

the factual basis for opining that the Policies are heavily front loaded), 19–21

(explaining the factual basis for opining how interest-rate risk affected

Conseco's profitability and policyholders).

The remaining two "actuarial opinions" that the CNO Defendants

challenge are that Conseco Life increased COI rates even though mortality

rates were improving, and that the October 2010 COI increase was designed to

recover prior losses. Id. at 17–19. For these opinions, Dr. Browne merely

recites documents in the record. See id. His report therefore does not identify

any economic methodology applied to those documents or any economic basis

for his adopting those opinions, see id., and Plaintiffs offer none in their brief,

see dkt. 493 at 15–16. While Dr. Browne may form opinions based on

information provided to him, Fed. R. Evid. 703, he "may not simply summarize

the out-of-court statements of others as his testimony," United States v.

Brownlee, 744 F.3d 479, 482 (7th Cir. 2014); see Goldberg v. 401 N. Wabash

Venture LLC, 755 F.3d 456, 461 (7th Cir. 2014). Plaintiffs have not shown that

these two opinions go beyond repeating information provided to Dr. Browne, so

they have not carried their burden to show that they are admissible.

In sum, Dr. Browne may opine whether the Policies were heavily front-

loaded and whether Conseco Life increased COI rates because of lower-than-

expected interest rates. He may not opine whether Conseco Life increased

COI rates even though mortality rates were improving and whether the October

2010 COI increase was designed to recover prior losses.

2. Inflated payment opinions

After the motion to exclude Dr. Browne's testimony was briefed, the

Court set bifurcated trials: a jury trial on liability for breach of contract and a

bench trial on alter ego liability. Dkt. 514. The Court therefore ordered the

parties to file a statement identifying any expert-testimony issues "that relate

solely to alter ego liability." Id. at 5; see Kansas City S. Ry. Co. v. Sny Island

Levee Drainage Dist., 831 F.3d 892, 900 (7th Cir. 2016) (When "a trial judge

conducts a bench trial, the judge need not conduct a Daubert (or Rule 702)

analysis before presentation of the evidence, even though he must determine

admissibility at some point.").

The parties disagree whether Dr. Browne's opinions about inflated

expense and service payments from Conseco Life to the CNO Defendants are

relevant only to alter ego liability, or also to breach-of-contract liability. Dkt.

516 at 3. Plaintiffs argue that the opinions are relevant to breach—and

therefore admissible at the jury trial—because inflated payments led Conseco

Life to raise policyholders' COI charges in violation of the Policies. Id. at 5–6.

The CNO Defendants contend that whether the payments were inflated is not

relevant to breach. Id. at 8–10.

Plaintiffs allege that Conseco Life breached the Policies by increasing COI

charges "based only on reasons other than mortality" and to recoup prior

losses in violation of the Policies. Dkt. 506 at 14–19 (order denying summary

judgment). What matters, then, is any connection between the costs that the

increased charges covered and mortality or prior losses. See id. (citing Advance

Tr. & Life Escrow Servs., LTA v. Protective Life Ins. Co., 93 F.4th 1315, 1335

(11th Cir. 2024)). Plaintiffs therefore want to use Dr. Browne's opinions to

support their argument that raising COI charges "to make up for abnormally

high expense losses" helps show that the increased charges "were totally

disconnected from mortality rates" and were to recoup prior losses. Dkt. 516

at 6.

But Plaintiffs do not explain how Dr. Browne's opinions—that Conseco

Life's payments to the CNO Defendants were "inflated" and "unusually high"

compared to Conseco's peers—address mortality rates and prior losses. See

dkt. 493 at 5, 14–15. That's because these breach-of-contract issues turn on

whether there's a dollars-and-cents connection between the expense increases

and mortality-rate and prior losses. See dkt. 506 at 14–19. So even if pressure

to inflate payments from Conseco Life to the CNO Defendants "went into" the

decision to raise rates, as Plaintiffs argue, dkt. 516 at 5–6, that would not

support breach. See Reid Hosp. & Health Care Servs., Inc. v. Conifer Rev. Cycle

Sols., LLC, 8 F.4th 642, 655 (7th Cir. 2021) (Motive "is generally regarded is

irrelevant" in a breach of contract claim.). And for the same reason, whether

Conseco Life's expenses were "abnormally high" compared to its peers does not

matter under the Policy language. See id. ("A breach is a breach, based on

objective standards of performance."). Without that connection, Dr. Browne's

opinions about how Conseco Life's charges compared to its alleged peer

companies cannot "help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to

determine a fact in issue." Fed. R. Evid. 702(a).

Instead, liability turns on the fact questions of whether those expenses

were connected to mortality and whether they covered prior losses. See dkt.

506 at 14–19 (citing Advance Tr. & Life Escrow Servs., LTA, 93 F.4th at 1335).

Moreover, the inadmissibility of opinions about whether the expenses were

inflated does not affect the admissibility of the existence and amount of the

expenses themselves. See dkt. 516 at 5–6. Dr. Browne's opinions that

Conseco Life's expenses and service payments were inflated therefore would not

be helpful to the jury under step two of Rule 702's gatekeeping standard. See

Downing v. Abbot Labs., 48 F.4th 793, 809–10 (7th Cir. 2022) ("For expert

testimony to be admissible, the expert must have had something useful to say

about the particular circumstances at issue."). Even if there were some

tangential relevance to whether Conseco Life was inflating expense charges,

that would be "substantially outweighed" by the risk of turning the jury's focus

to whether Conseco Life was a bad actor instead of whether it breached the

Policies. See Artis v. Santos, 95 F.4th 518, 525, 528 (7th Cir. 2024) ("Rule 403

allows a court to exclude even relevant evidence, including expert testimony.");

Pittman v. County of Madison, Ill., 970 F.3d 823, 829–30 (7th Cir. 2020)

(affirming the exclusion of expert testimony that "was far more likely to confuse

the jury than to help it").

Dr. Browne therefore may not opine at the jury trial whether Conseco

Life's expenses and service payments to the CNO Defendants were inflated.3

C. Robert Muriel

Plaintiffs plan to call Robert Muriel as an expert in accounting and

corporate governance. See dkt. 488-1 at 4. The parties agree that Mr. Muriel's

corporate-governance opinions are relevant to only alter ego issues, dkt. 516 at

2, so he may not opine at the jury trial on those issues, see Kansas City S. Ry.

Co., 831 F.3d at 900. Mr. Muriel also shares Dr. Browne's opinions that

Conseco Life paid the CNO Defendants excessive fees based on "comparable life

insurance companies." Dkt. 488-1 at 3; see dkt. 516 at 6. For the same

3 Because in a bench trial the Rule 702 analysis is not required "before presentation of

the evidence," Kansas City S. Ry. Co., 831 F.3d at 900, the Court does not at this point

address the admissibility of these opinions at the bench trial.

reasons as for Dr. Browne, these opinions would not help the jury determine

breach-of-contract liability, so Mr. Muriel may not opine regarding them at the

jury trial. See Kansas City S. Ry. Co., 831 F.3d at 900.

That leaves Mr. Muriel's opinions about "statutory accounting issues."

See dkt. 474 at 11. The CNO Defendants have not clearly defined the

"decidedly scurrilous opinions" that they seek to exclude, but they identify only

Mr. Muriel's opinions that Conseco Life's "statutory financial statements were

materially 'misstated' or reflected 'inappropriate accounting treatment.'" Id. at

11–14. They argue Mr. Muriel is not qualified to offer those opinions and that

"he conducted no qualitive or quantitative analysis and employed no

methodology used by practitioners in the field." Id. Plaintiff responds that Mr.

Muriel's accounting education qualifies him and that his analysis is reliable

because he considered a "huge quantity of information" and broke down

Conseco Life's financial reports. Dkt. 489 at 4–7, 11–12.

Evaluating an expert's reliability requires "a preliminary assessment of

whether the reasoning or methodology underlying the testimony is scientifically

valid." Kirk v. Clark Equip. Co., 991 F.3d 865, 872 (7th Cir. 2021) (quoting

Daubert, 509 U.S. at 592–93). Relevant factors may include "whether the

expert's theory has been (1) tested, (2) subjected to peer review and publication,

(3) analyzed for known or potential error rate, and/or is (4) generally accepted

within the specific scientific field." Id. "[T]his list is neither exhaustive nor

mandatory." Gopalratnam v. Hewlett–Packard Co., 877 F.3d 771, 780 (7th Cir.

2017). Instead, the test is "flexible" and focuses "on the soundness and care

with which the expert arrived at her opinion." Kirk, 991 F.3d at 873.

Here, Mr. Muriel's report opines that Conseco Life's actions were not "fair

and reasonable" and were "inappropriate," but does not reference statutory-

accounting standards. Dkt. 488-1 at 12–15. It then concludes by opining that

"[e]xcessive service fees and an 'ability to pay' approach to allocating expenses

among the insurance entities left CLIC with statutory statements that have

been misstated for many years." Id. at 20. But in reaching that conclusion,

Mr. Muriel does not identify any statutory-accounting principles, show how he

applied them to Conseco Life's financial statements, or explain why they

demonstrate that those financial statements are misleading or inaccurate. See

dkt. 488-1 at 8 (noting without elaboration that capital and risk are evaluated

and reported "on a statutory accounting basis"). That is not enough to show a

reliable methodology. See Minix v. Canarecci, 597 F.3d 824, 835 (7th Cir.

2010) ("Given Gutierrez's failure to explain his methodology, the district court

could conclude that the report offered nothing of value to the judicial

process.").

Plaintiffs nevertheless argue that Mr. Muriel's analysis is seen in the

exhibits attached to his report and the list of materials he considered. Dkt.

489 at 11–12. But the list of factual inputs doesn't include statutory-

accounting principles, dkt. 488-1 at 43–44, and even if it did that wouldn't

constitute reliable methodology. See Kirk, 991 F.3d at 875 (citing "irrelevant"

industry literature doesn't make an expert's speculation reliable). And the

attachments are mere bar graphs charting years and dollar amounts, so they

represent conclusions rather than methodology. See dkt. 488-1 at 22–33;

Minix, 597 F.3d at 835 ("To be admissible under Rule 702, the expert's opinion

must offer more than a 'bottom line.' The expert must explain the

methodologies and principles supporting the opinion."). Since Mr. Muriel did

not identify the relevant accounting principles or any methodology for applying

them, Plaintiffs have not carried their burden to show that Mr. Muriel's

opinions about "misstated" financial reports are reliable. See Minix, 597 F.3d

at 835; accord Burns v. Sherwin–Williams Co., 78 F.4th 364, 374 (7th Cir.

2023) (affirming the exclusion of "a bare conclusion").

Mr. Muriel therefore may not opine whether Conseco Life's financial

statements satisfied statutory accounting standards.4

III.

Conclusion

The motion to exclude portions of testimony from Timothy Pfeifer and

Mary Jo Hudson is GRANTED, dkt. [475], the motion to exclude portions of

testimony from Mark Browne is GRANTED in part and DENIED in part, dkt.

[467], and the motion to exclude portions of testimony from Robert Muriel is

GRANTED, dkt. [468].

4 The parties also appear to have turned a footnote in the CNO Defendants' brief, dkt.

474 at 12 n.10, into a full-fledged dispute about whether Mr. Muriel ever read a

financial statement as Director of the Illinois Department of Insurance. See dkt. 489

at 5; dkt. 500 at 8–9 n.3. The Court does not address this dispute because Mr.

Muriel's statutory-accounting opinions are resolved based on reliability and the CNO

Defendants do not appear to argue that he is otherwise unqualified to opine on

Conseco Life's financial state. See dkt. 474 at 11.

Because this order cites sealed filings, the Clerk shall docket it under

seal. Any party may file a motion to maintain this order under seal, with

proposed redactions, by April 4, 2025. If no motion to maintain under seal is

filed, the order will be unsealed.

SO ORDERED.

Date: 3/26/2025 Sjamnu Patnaik Hanbore

James Patrick Hanlon

United States District Judge

Southern District of Indiana

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