“We have long recognized a clean distinction between injunctions prohibiting proceedings in other courts, which are appealable, and orders, whether or not styled “injunctions,” that control proceedings only in the court that issues the order.”
How later courts described this case
- “We have long recognized a clean distinction between injunctions prohibiting proceedings in other courts, which are appealable, and orders, whether or not styled “injunctions,” that control proceedings only in the court that issues the order.”
- “It is beyond argument that the language of Rule 27(b) anticipates the filing of a motion or petition and the service of notice thereof after rendition of a judgment.”
- “The filing of a notice of appeal is an event of jurisdictional significance—it confers jurisdiction on the court of appeals and divests the district court of its control over those aspects of the case involved in the appeal.”
- “[E]ven if one particular expert is unavailable . . . there will usually be other experts available to give similar testimony.”
Written by the judges who cited it.
The opinion
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
MIDDLE DISTRICT OF LOUISIANA
LOUISIANA REAL ESTATE CIVIL ACTION
APPRAISERS BOARD
VERSUS
NO. 19-214-BAJ-RLB
UNITED STATES FEDERAL TRADE
COMMISSION
ORDER
Before the Court is Defendant’s Emergency Motion for Leave to Perpetuate Testimony,
or, In the Alternative, to Temporarily Lift Stay to Permit Deposition De Bene Esse. (R. Doc. 58).
The motion is opposed. (R. Doc. 61). Defendant filed a reply. (R. Doc. 68). Plaintiff filed a
Surreply. (R. Docs. 69-1, 70).
I. Background
This matter arises from allegations that the United States Federal Trade Commission
(“FTC” or “Defendant”) is unlawfully attempting to force the Louisiana Real Estate Appraisers
Board (“Board” or “Petitioner”) to undergo federal antitrust enforcement proceedings. (R. Doc.
1). The Board brings this action under the Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. § 701, et seq.
(“APA”), and the Declaratory Judgment Act, 28 U.S.C. §§ 2201-02 (“DJA”). The Board seeks
an order declaring that it has state-action immunity from the antitrust laws and further directing
the FTC to dismiss the administrative complaint.
On July 29, 2019, the district judge stayed the FTC’s administrative proceeding pending
resolution of the instant APA action. (R. Doc. 32).1 The FTC has appealed the district judge’s
ruling. (R. Docs. 37, 48).
1 Louisiana Real Estate Appraisers Bd. v. United States Fed. Trade Comm'n, No. 19-214, 2019 WL 3412162, at *2
(M.D. La. July 29, 2019); see In re Louisiana Real Estate Appraisers Board, No. 9374, 2019 WL 3714449, at *1
(F.T.C. Aug. 5, 2019).
On March 13, 2020, the FTC filed the instant motion. (R. Doc. 58). The FTC represents
that its expert economist, Dr. Antara Dutta, will be leaving the FTC for private employment on
April 24, 2020. The FTC further represents that Dr. Dutta has prepared an expert report and
rebuttal report in the administrative proceeding, but expert depositions were not completed prior
to the issuance of the stay. In an attached declaration, Dr. Dutta states that “serving as a
testifying expert for an external party would be incompatible with [her] new job responsibilities”
and, therefore, she is “unavailable to serve as an expert for the FTC after April 24, 2020.” (R.
Doc. 58-2). The FTC argues that the Court should permit depositions to perpetuate Dr. Dutta’s
testimony under Rule 27(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure while Dr. Dutta is stilled
employed by the FTC because preserving her testimony would serve the interests of justice. In
the alternative, the FTC seeks an order temporarily lifting the stay of the administrative
proceeding for the limited purpose of allowing Dr. Dutta’s depositions to be taken in the context
of the administrative proceeding. The FTC requests that the Court order a “discovery”
deposition to take place during the week of April 13, 2020 in Washington, D.C., and a “trial”
deposition to take place during the week of April 20, 2020, in Washington, D.C.
The Board opposes the relief sought. (R. Doc. 61). The Board argues that Rule 27(b)
does not apply because the Court has not rendered a judgment and the FTC has not otherwise
demonstrated any injustice would result from denying the motion. In particular, the Board
argues that the FTC has several other on-staff antitrust economists who could present expert
opinions in place of Dr. Dutta. Among other things, the Board also argues that the Court should
not lift the stay for the purposes of the depositions because it lacks subject matter jurisdiction to
do so and Dr. Dutta’s unavailability as an expert does not counterbalance the equitable factors
supporting the stay of the administrative proceeding.
II. Law and Analysis
A. Rule 27(b)
Rule 27(b) provides that a court may authorize depositions to perpetuate testimony
pending an appeal. In particular, the rule provides that “[t]he court where a judgment has been
rendered may, if an appeal has been taken or may still be taken, permit a party to depose
witnesses to perpetuate their testimony for use in the event of further proceedings in that court.”
Fed. R. Civ. P 27(b)(1). A motion to perpetuate testimony must show “the name, address, and
expected substance of the testimony of each deponent” and “the reasons for perpetuating the
testimony.” Fed. R. Civ. P 27(b)(2).2 The Court may permit such depositions to “prevent a
failure or delay of justice.” Fed. R. Civ. P. 27(b)(3).
Having considered the record and the arguments of the parties, the Court will not
authorize a deposition to perpetuate Dr. Dutta’s testimony during the FTC’s interlocutory appeal
of the ruling staying the administrative proceeding. Foremost, Rule 27(b) only applies where a
final judgment has been rendered. See Shore v. Acands, Inc., 644 F.2d 386, 389 (5th Cir. 1981)
(“It is beyond argument that the language of Rule 27(b) anticipates the filing of a motion or
petition and the service of notice thereof after rendition of a judgment.”). No judgment has been
entered in this action under Rule 58. Accordingly, Rule 27(b) is inapplicable.
Moreover, the FTC does not demonstrate how Dr. Dutta’s expert testimony would be
used in any further proceedings in this Court. The FTC does not argue, much less demonstrate,
that Dr. Dutta’s testimony as an expert economist is relevant to the claims and defenses in this
APA action. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1) (defining the general scope of discovery).3 While the
2 These requirements are satisfied by an attached declaration by the FTC’s counsel. (R. Doc. 58-3).
3 The FTC states that “Dr. Dutta will provide expert economic analysis of the Board’s actions, including opinions
establishing market definition, market power, anticompetitive harm resulting from the Board’s action, and the
absence of precompetitive jurisdiction.” (R. Doc. 58-1). It does not appear that this testimony is relevant to whether
the Board has state-action immunity from the antitrust laws.
Court recognizes that the administrative proceeding has been stayed in light of this APA action,
the testimony sought does not appear to be destined for use in this Court and, therefore, falls
outside of the scope of Rule 27(b). See Canal Barge Co. v. Gulfstream Trading, Ltd., No. 97-
2674, 1999 WL 1277539, at *2 (E.D. La. Dec. 22, 1999). Indeed, the FTC’s alternative
argument, which seeks an order providing a limited lift of the stay for the purposes of allowing
Dr. Dutta to be deposed in the context of the administrative proceeding, underscores that the
deposition is truly related to the administrative proceeding, not the APA action pending before
this Court and on appeal.4
Even assuming that Rule 27(b) is applicable in this action, the Court, in exercising its
discretion, concludes that perpetuating Dr. Dutta’s testimony is unnecessary to prevent a failure
or delay of justice. Dr. Dutta is an expert witness, not a fact witness. While Rule 27(b) is not
limited to depositions to perpetuate fact testimony, the unavailability of a particular expert
witness does not raise the same issues as the unavailability of a fact witness. See Cater-Wallace,
Inc. v. Otte, 474 F.2d 529, 536-37 (2d Cir. 1972) (“[E]ven if one particular expert is unavailable .
. . there will usually be other experts available to give similar testimony.”). The FTC does not
direct the Court to a single decision in which a district court issued an order to perpetuate an
expert witness’s testimony under Rule 27(b). The FTC has also not convinced the Court that all
of its other economists are unavailable or unqualified to serve as an expert in the administrative
4 In support of its assertion that “courts may perpetuate testimony for use in administrative proceedings,” the FTC
relies primarily on In re Application of Checkosky, 142 F.R.D. 4 (D.D.C. 1992). (R. Doc. 58-1 at 3; R. Doc. 68 at 2-
3). In that decision, the court found that it had jurisdiction to entertain relief under a Rule 27(a) petition because
there was “sufficient likelihood that petitioners’ administrative action will be reviewed in the Court of Appeals,”
which is a court of the United States. Checkosky, 142 F.R.D. at 6. Rule 27(a) provides that “[a] person who wants to
perpetuate testimony about any matter cognizable in a United States court may file a verified petition in the district
court for the district where any expected adverse party resides.” Fed. R. Civ. P. 27(a)(1) (emphasis added). In
contrast, relief under Rule 27(b) appears to be limited to where the testimony is obtained “for further proceedings”
in the court from which an appeal is taken. Fed. R. Civ. P. 27(b)(1) (pertaining to a Court where judgment has been
rendered and from which an appeal has been taken, to perpetuate testimony “for use in the event of further
proceedings in that court.”) (emphasis added).
proceeding. If it does not staff another available and qualified economist, the FTC may hire one
from the private sector. While this would result in the expenditure of costs, it would not result in
a failure or delay of justice.5 Furthermore, any new expert would have the benefit of Dr. Dutta’s
analysis and would not need to duplicate all of her efforts.
Finally, the Board raises important concerns with respect to the logistics of taking Dr.
Dutta’s depositions prior to her departure from the FTC in light of the current COVID-19
pandemic. To be clear, Washington, D.C., Virginia, Maryland, and Louisiana are all subject to
stay-at-home orders banning non-essential travel during the time period in which the FTC is
seeking to schedule the depositions. See Washington, D.C. Mayor’s Order No. 2020-054 (signed
Mar. 30, 2020; effective April 1, 2020 through April 24, 2020); Virginia Governor’s Executive
Order No. 55 (signed Mar. 30, 2020; effective April 1, 2020 through June 10, 2020); Maryland
Governor’s Order No. 20-03-30-01 (signed Mar. 30, 2020; effective Mar. 30, 2020 with no end
date); Louisiana Governor’s Proclamation No. 33 JBE 2020 (signed April 2, 2020; effective
April 2, 2020 through April 30, 2020).6 The FTC asks the Court to “leave the details” of the
depositions to the parties without any argument that the deposition would qualify as essential
activity allowing for travel for an in-person deposition. (R. Doc. 68 at 1). It also does not appear
that the Board will stipulate for the depositions to be taken by telephone, videoconference, or
other means. (See R. Doc. 61 at 12). The FTC does not seek, and the Court finds no basis to
5 Indeed, it appears that the FTC has asked Dr. Dutta to provide expert testimony as a paid consultant after she
leaves the FTC, and Dr. Dutta has turned down that offer in light of a conflict with her new employer. The FTC
would have to incur costs in hiring an outside expert regardless of whether that individual is Dr. Dutta or some other
economist. That the FTC is expending significant time and resources seeking an order to perpetuate the testimony of
Dr. Dutta may be a testament to her particular qualifications. Nevertheless, the FTC is not without options with
respect to securing a new expert witness. The FTC will have sufficient time to locate and secure a qualified
replacement expert witness while the administrative proceeding is stayed.
6 While the FTC suggests that the depositions would take place in Washington, D.C., it is unclear where the
individuals who would participate in an in-person deposition – including Dr. Dutta, counsel, party representatives,
the court reporter, and the videographer – reside for the purposes of the stay-at-home orders.
order, that any depositions be taken by telephone or other remote means under Rule 30(b)(4) of
the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
For the foregoing reasons, the Court denies the FTC’s motion for leave to perpetuate Dr.
Dutta’s deposition testimony under Rule 27(b)(2) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
B. Temporary Lift of Stay
In the alternative, the FTC seeks an order temporarily lifting the stay of the
administrative proceeding for the purposes of taking de bene esse depositions of Dr. Dutta.
The Court need not determine whether the sought de bene esse depositions should be
allowed under either the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure or the FTC’s Rules of Practice for
Adjudicative Proceedings.7 That is because the Court lacks jurisdiction to lift the stay and
otherwise concludes that even a temporary lift of the stay would be inappropriate for the purpose
of allowing such depositions.
Foremost, a lift of the stay would be an improper exercise of this Court jurisdiction while
the very issue of whether the stay is proper is on appeal. “When one aspect of a case is before
the appellate court on interlocutory review, the district court is divested of jurisdiction over that
aspect of the case.” Dayton Indep. Sch. Dist. v. U.S. Mineral Prod. Co., 906 F.2d 1059, 1063
(5th Cir. 1990) (citing Coastal Corp. v. Texas E. Corp., 869 F.2d 817, 820-21 (5th Cir. 1989));
7 As the FTC is seeking a lift of the stay for the purpose of taking the depositions in the context of the administrative
proceedings, it appears that the FTC’s Rules of Practice for Adjudicative Proceedings, 16 C.F.R. Part 3, are
applicable for determining whether such depositions would ultimately be allowed in the administrative proceeding.
The FTC does not reference these rules in its briefing. The Court notes that whether the concept of de bene esse
depositions have a place within the current Federal Rules of Civil Procedure is questionable. See Layton v. Mentor
Worldwide LLC, No. 16-161, 2016 WL 9136965, at *1 (N.D. Fla. Oct. 19, 2016) (“When the Federal Rules of Civil
Procedure were amended years ago, the concept of de bene esse depositions was abrogated so that the Rules now
only contemplate depositions (whether to preserve trial testimony or to obtain discoverable information).”) (citing
Chrysler Int'l Corp. v. Chemaly, 280 F.3d 1358 (11th Cir. 2002)). De bene esse depositions are essentially
depositions to be used at trial in place of live testimony as allowed by Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 32(a)(4). See
Crumb v. Stane, No. 17-1471, 2019 WL 1508059, at *2 (E.D. Cal. Apr. 5, 2019). Rule 32(a)(4) provides, in
pertinent part, that “[a] party may use for any purpose the deposition of a witness, whether or not a party, if the court
finds . . . on motion and notice, that exceptional circumstances make it desirable--in the interest of justice and with
due regard to the importance of live testimony in open court--to permit the deposition to be used.” Fed. R. Civ. P.
32(a)(4)(E).
see also Griggs v. Provident Consumer Disc. Co., 459 U.S. 56, 58 (1982) (“The filing of a notice
of appeal is an event of jurisdictional significance—it confers jurisdiction on the court of appeals
and divests the district court of its control over those aspects of the case involved in the
appeal.”).
The FTC’s interlocutory appeal of the stay of the administrative proceeding pursuant to
28 U.S.C. § 1292(a)(1) seeks relief with respect to what is essentially an injunction prohibiting
further action in the administrative proceeding. See Hamilton v. Robertson, 854 F.2d 740, 741
(5th Cir. 1988) (“We have long recognized a clean distinction between injunctions prohibiting
proceedings in other courts, which are appealable, and orders, whether or not styled
“injunctions,” that control proceedings only in the court that issues the order.”). The powers of a
district court over an injunction pending appeal is limited to maintaining the status quo. Coastal
Corp. v. Texas E. Corp., 869 F.2d 817, 820 (5th Cir. 1989).
Even assuming that the Court may properly exercise jurisdiction by temporarily lifting
the stay for the limited purpose of allowing the sought depositions to maintain the status quo in
the administrative proceeding, the FTC has not submitted a proper basis for lifting the stay. In
granting the Board’s motion to stay the administrative proceeding, the district judged considered
“(1) whether the stay applicant has made a strong showing that he is likely to succeed on the
merits, (2) whether the applicant will be irreparably injured absent a stay, (3) whether issuance of
the stay will substantially injure the other parties interested in the proceeding, and (4) where the
public interest lies.” Louisiana Real Estate Appraisers Bd., 2019 WL 3412162, at *2 (citing
Hilton v. Braunskill, 481 U.S. 770, 776 (1987)). Given that even a temporary lift of the stay of
administrative proceeding “may cause irreparable harm by forcing the State to engage in
activities from which it might otherwise be protected,” the stay should remain in place even if
the Court has jurisdiction to temporarily lift it. See Louisiana Real Estate Appraisers Bd., 2019
WL 3412162, at *4. The potential harm to the FTC, which is ultimately a matter of locating a
new expert witness, does not counterbalance the district judge’s rational for emplacing a full stay
of the administrative proceeding.
III. Conclusion
Based on the foregoing,
IT IS ORDERED that Defendant’s Emergency Motion for Leave to Perpetuate
Testimony, or, In the Alternative, to Temporarily Lift Stay to Permit Deposition De Bene Esse
(R. Doc. 58) is DENIED.
Signed in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, on April 9, 2020.
S
RICHARD L. BOURGEOIS, JR.
UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE