# Respondents Brief — United Gas Improvement Co. v. Callery Properties, Inc.

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## Record

- **Collection:** Supreme Court brief
- **Document type:** Respondents Brief
- **Published:** January 1, 1965
- **Citation:** 382 U.S. 223

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CITATIONS
Cases

Atlantic Ref. Co. v. Public Serv. Comm’n, 360 U.S. 378

Phillips Petroleum Co. v. Wisconsin, 347 U.S. 672 (1954) ....

Public Serv. Comm’n v. FPC, 287 F. 2d 146 (D.C. Cir. 1960),
Gert. denied, 365 U.S. 880 (1961) ...........cccccsccecscsecsreseecereocers

Pure Oil Co. v. FPC, 292 F. 2d 350 (7th Cir. 1961) ................

United Gas Improvement Co. v. Continental Oil Co., ...... U.S.
wun, 14 L. Ed. 2d 466 (1965) at
‘United Gas Improvement Co. v. FPC, 290 F. od 133 (5th
Cir.), cert. denied, 368 U.S. 823 (1961) RE ES EES be

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United Gas Improvement Co. v. FPC, 290 F. 2d 147 (5th

Cir.), cort. denied, 366 U.S. 964 (1961) eececcececccn.,
United Gas Improvement Co. v. FPC, 283 F. 2d 817 (9th

Cir. 1960), cert. denied, 365 U.S. 879 | Baa ae 7, 12, 22
United Gas Improvement Co. v. FPC, 269 F. 2d 865, vacated,

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Opinions
Area Rate Proceeding, Opinion No. 468, ...... FPC ...... (1965) 9
Continental Oil Co., Opinion No. 351, 27 FPC 96 (1962) 10, 11,17
Skelly Oil Co., Opinion No. 362, 28 FPC 401 (1962) .......... 17
Trunkline Gas Co., Opinion No. 321, 21 FPC 704 (1959) .... 23
United Gas Pipe Line Co., Opinion No. 399, 30 FPC 329

SIF ictestinisinsnseccloiies siltetag iets estas secs age 17
Statutes
Natural Gas Act, 15 U.S.C. 717a et. REESE RNa eR ed passim
Miscellaneous ~

Morris, Recent Independent Producer Certificate Cases: The
“Suspect Order” Rule, 32 Gro. Wasu. L. Rev. 489 (1964) 14

Ross, The Area Rate Proceedings: An Unsettled Experiment
in Public Control of Natural Gas Prices, 18 Sw. L. J. 165
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Nos. 21, 22, 32

In THE

Supreme Court of the United States

OcToBER TzEM, 1965

Tue Untrep Gas Improvement Company,
Lone Istanp Licutmse Company, and
PrrmaDELPuia Exectric Company,
Petitioners,

Vv.

Catuzery Properties, INc., BT AL.,
Respondents.

Pustic Service Commission or THE State oF New York,
Petitioner,
Vv.
Cattery Properties, Inc., ET AL.,
Respondents.

FreperaL Power Commission,
Petitioner,
v.
Catuery Properties, Inc., ET AL.,
Respondents.

On Warts or CERTIORARI TO THE Untrep States
Court or APPEALS FOR THE Firtn Circuit

BRIEF FOR RESPONDENT
OCEAN DRILLING & EXPLORATION COMPANY

OPINIONS BELOW

The opinion of the Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit
(R. 619-42) is reported at 335 F. 2d 1004. The opinions and
orders of the Federal Power Commission (R. 549-93, 606-17)
are reported at 30 FPC 283 and 682.

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JURISDICTION

The judgment of the court of appeals reversing the Fed.
eral Commission’s order and remanding the proceedings
was entered on August 14, 1964 (R. 643). Orders were issued
on November 6 and 12, 1964, extending the time for fili
petitions for writs of certiorari in Nos. 26 and 32 until
November 23 and December 12, 1964, respectively. The
petitions were filed on November 10 (No. 21), November 12
(No. 22), November 23 (No. 26) and December 11, 1964
(No. 32), Orders were entered granting the petitions in all
four cases on March 8, 1965 (R. 645-647). 380 U.S. 931.

The jurisdiction of this Court rests on 28 U.S.C. 1254(1)
and Section 19(b) of the Natural Gas Act, 15 U.S.C. 717r(b).

QUESTIONS PRESENTED

1. May the Federal Power Commission in a certificate
proceeding under Section 7(e) of the Natural Gas Act at-

tach price-reducing conditions to producer-applicants’ cer-
tificates without considering cost, economic, and other evi-
dence tendered by the producer-applicants to show why
the present and future public convenience and necessity is
best served by granting unconditioned certificates?

2. May the Federal Power Commission, without notice,
hearing, or any supporting evidence, impose a condition on
permanent certificates of public convenience and necessity
forbidding the filing of contractually authorized rate in-
creases above a specified level?

STATUTES INVOLVED
The pertinent provisions of the Natural Gas Act (Sections
4 and 7(c) and (e), 52 Stat. 821, as amended, 15 U.S.C.
717-717w) are reprinted in the Appendix to the Federal
Power Commission’s brief, pp. 61-65.

1 References throughout this brief to sections “4”, “5” or “7”
refer to sections of the Natural Gas Act, 15 U.S.C. 717c, 7174,
7178.

3
STATEMENT

The Statement contained in the Federal Power Commis-
sion’s (Commission’s) brief fairly outlines the background
of this case. Certiorari was granted in Nos. 21, 22 and 32?
on the two questions restated and presented above and on
a third question as to the measure of refunds in the event
it is determined that the Federal Power Commission has
authority under Section 7(e) of the Natural Gas Act to
require producers to refund amounts previously collected
pursuant to unconditional permanent certificates.’ This
brief is directed to the two question noted above.*

The court below did not reach the questions raised by
Ocean Drilling & Exploration Company (ODECO) pertain-
ing to the manner in which the Commission determined the
“in-line” price to support its 20¢ per Mef price condition

2 Petitioners in No. 21 are The United Gas Improvement Company,
Long Island Lighting Company, and the Philadelphia Electric
Company, all privately owned distributing companies who, of
course, have a proprietary interest in seeing lower gas prices.
These companies will be referred to singly as “UGI et al”. Peti-
tioner in No. 22 is the Public Service Commission of the State
of New York which, as the name implies, is the state agency in
New York responsible for utility rates. This state commission
will be referred to singly as “New York”. For simplicity, UGI
et al and New York will be referred to collectively as the “Inter-
venors”. The Commission is Petitioner in No. 32.

3 ODECO as Petitioner in No. 26 has submitted a brief to support
its position that under Section 7(e) of the Natural Gas Act the
Commission has no authority to award reparations of amounts
collected pursuant to unconditional certificates of public con-
venience and necessity. No. 26 has been consolidated with Nos.
21, 22 and 32 (R. 659).

“ Assuming that the Commission has the power to order refunds,
ODECO adopts the briefs of the other respondents in Nos. 21,
22 and 32 as to the measure of refunds.

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or the error in the Commission’s determination to require
ODECO to pay interest on the refunds which it ordered,
(R. 641, 640) Although the Commission as Petitioner in
No. 32, now asks this Court to pass upon these undecided
issues, they were not presented in the petitions in Nos, 21,
22 and 32 and were not included in the orders granting
certiorari. Therefore, ODECO is not responding to the
arguments directed to the “in line” price and interest ques-
tions. However, if the Court nevertheless decides to pass
upon these questions ODECO requests the opportunity to
submit a supplemental brief.

SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT

1. Under Section 7(e) of the Natural Gas Act a certif-
cate applicant has the burden to show that his proposed

price is required by the present or future public convenience
and necessity. Accordingly, under the statute the certificate
applicant must be given the opportunity to meet this burden,
In the orders under review the Commission denied the cer-
tificate applicants the opportunity to meet their statutory
burden by excluding all evidence except that related to other
certified sales in the area.

2. The Commission does not have authority under the
Natural Gas Act to impose a condition on permanent certi-
ficates of public convenience and necessity forbidding the
filing of contractually authorized price increases in accord-
ance with Section 4 of the Natural Gas Act. Further, the
record is devoid of any evidence to support the 23.55¢ per
Mef price increase moratorium imposed by the Commission
on the certificates issued in this case.

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ARGUMENT

I.

THE COMMISSION ERRED IN REJECTING
PROFFERED EVIDENCE RELEVANT TO A
DETERMINATION OF THE PUBLIC
CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY

This case involves the failure of the Commission to afford
producer-applicants the opportunity to explain the “reason
why” their proposed contract prices are in the present and
future public convenience and necessity even if they are
higher than prices previously certificated by the Commis-
sion in the same area. The Commission takes the unqualified
position that, in a Section 7 certificate proceeding, the only
relevant evidence is that relating to prices previously
certificated in the area and that it is not required to
consider any other evidence bearing on the public con-

venience and necessity.

After erroneously concluding that ODECO’s proposed
price was not “in line” with prices previously certificated
in Southern Louisiana,® the Commission refused to receive
and consider evidence tendered by ODECO which would
have explained the “reason why” its initial contract price
was in the present and future public convenience and
necessity. The Commission’s refusal to consider such evi-
dence was predicated solely on administrative convenience.
The court below reversed the Commission, agreeing with
ODECO that “The Commission must, however, hear and
evaluate all relevant evidence bearing on public convenience
and necessity when it is urged, or held,** that the proposed
price is out of line.” (R. 632).

5 ODECO’s contracts were executed in 1958. The 18.5¢ per Mcf
price for 1957-1958 contracts which the Commission found to
be “in-line” constituted approximately the lower 25% by volume
of the contracts executed during those years. (R. 297).

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1. CATCO and its Progeny

Since CATCO* is the only producer certificate case involy-
ing the price issue which this Court has considered since
its first Phillips’ decision, each petitioner relies on this im-
portant decision in discussing what evidentiary criteria
must be considered in certificate proceedings.? CATCO in.
volved a sale by four producers to Tennessee Gas Trans-
mission Company of 1.67 trillion cubic feet of natural gas
from offshore Louisiana at an initial price of 22.4¢ per Mef
including tax reimbursement of 1¢ per Mef. The Commission
had twice refused to issue a certificate to the producers at
this price and the producers had threatened not to dedicate
this large gas supply to interstate commerce. Finally, Ten-
nessee notified the Commission that if a certificate was not
issued to the producers this needed gas supply would be
forever lost to the interstate market. On the third attempt
the Commission granted certificates to the producers at
their contract prices on “the primary consideration that the
public served through the Tennessee Gas system is greatly
in need of increased supplies of natural gas...” 360 US.
386.

This Court reversed the Commission, describing the
CATCO record thusly:

“Our examination of the record here indicates that
there was insufficient evidence to support a finding of
public convenience and necessity prerequisite to the
issuance of the permanent certificates. The witnesses
tendered developed little more information than was
included in the printed contracts, As the proposed con-
tract price was higher than any paid by Tennessee,

6 Atlantic Ref. Co. v. Public Serv. Comm’n, 360 U.S. 378 (1959).
7 Phillips Petroleum Co. v. Wisconsin, 347 U.S. 672 ( 1954).

8 In describing CATCO Judge Brown once stated “Catco came
up on a bare bones record with some macabre-like implications.”
United Gas Improvement Co. v. FPC, 290 F. 2a 133, 141 (5th
Cir.), cert. dented, 368 U. S. 823 (1961).

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including offshore production in the West Delta area of
Louisiana, it is surprising that evidence, if available,
was not introduced as to the relative costs of production
in the two submerged areas. Moreover, the record indi-
cates that the proposed price was some 70% higher
than the weighted average cost of gas to Tennessee;
still no effort was made to give the ‘reason why’.” 360

U.S. at 392-93.

This Court further held, that under Section 7 of the
Natural Gas Act the Commission is not required to make
a Section 4 or 5 just and reasonable rate determination,
but that the “inordinate delay presently existing in the
processing of {5 proceedings requires a most careful
scrutiny and responsible reaction to initial price proposals
of producers under §7”. 360 U.S. at 391.

In response to the teachings of CATCO, the courts of
appeals? reversed four Commission certifications of sales
from Southern Louisiana based upon records completed
prior to the issuance of the CATCO opinion.” The orders
of the Commission under review in these four cases were
issued after CATCO and in each the Commission con-
eluded that the applicants met the CATCO standards. But

9 Public Serv. Comm’n v. FPC, 287 F. 2d 146 (D.C. Cir. 1960),
cert. denied, 365 U.S. 880 (1961) ; United Gas Improvement Co.
v. FPC, 290 F. 2d 133 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 368 U.S. 823
(1961) ; United Gas Improvement Co. v. FPC, 290 F. 2d 147
(5th Cir.), cert. denied, 366 U.S. 964 (1961) ; United Gas Im-
provement Co. v. FPC, 283 F. 2d 817 (9th Cir. 1960), cert.
denied, 365 U.S. 879 (1961).

10 Six weeks after CATCO this Court summarily reversed the
Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit which had affirmed a
Commission order certificating new sales in Southern Louisiana
which was entered prior to CATCO. United Gas Improvement
Co. v. FPC, 269 F. 2d 865, vacated, 361 U.S. 195 (1959), “. .
with directions to remand the case to the Federal Power Com-
mission for reconsideration and redetermination in the light of
Atlantic Refining Co. v. Public Service Com. of New York,

360 U.S. 378, 3 L. ed. 2d 1312, 79 S. Ct. 1246.”

8

as the Court of Appeals for the District Court of Columbia
stated :4

“The Supreme Court noted, in the Catco case, that
the record before it supplied ‘little more information
than was [contained] in the printed contracts.’ Td., 360
U.S. at page 392, 79 S. Ct. at page 1256. It does not
appear to us that the record presently under review
is materially better than that found to be deficient in
Catco. Although the order now before us was handed
down a month after the Supreme Court had spoken in
Catco, the evidence was taken before the court’s opin-
ion was rendered, and thus before it had become known
that additional explanatory proof would be required to
support inflated prices.” 287 F’. 2d at 149-50.

Likewise, the Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit in
reversing one of the CATCO progeny noted:

“We do not attempt to determine what the ‘line’ is
on this record. We have no doubt that in this case the
price of 23.8 cents per Mcf, including the tax reimburse-
ment,’ was out of line as the term was used by the
Supreme Court. The only evidence on this record that
supports such ‘out of line’ price is the fact that it was
negotiated at arms’ length and was required by the
intense competition. This, as we have said, is not
enough. It is clearly incumbent on the proponent of
such a rate to make some showing of the ‘reason why’
(as tt was expressed in the CATCO opinion) 21% cents,
excluding tax, is the proper initial rate in 1958 when
the parties were freely contracting in 1954 at half that
figure.” (Emphasis added). 290 F. 2d at 138.

ODECO’s certificate applications were originally involved
in the Commission’s order reversed by the Court of Appeals

11 Public Serv. Comm’n v. FPC, 287 F. 2d 146 (D.C. Cir. 1960),
cert. denied 365 U.S. 880 (1961).

12 United Gas Improvement Co. v. FPC, 290 F. 2d 133 (5th Cir.)
cert. denied, 368 U.S. 823 (1961).

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for the District of Columbia."* That court specifically re-
manded the case to the Commission “for further proceed-
ings in which the producer applicants may, if they so choose,
either augment the record so as to support a certification
without price condition, or seek a certification appropri-
ately conditioned”.'*

2. ODECO’s Attempt to Augment the Record

The reversals spawned by CATCO returned to the Com-
mission where all were eventually consolidated and set for
hearing (R. 409-21). Certain lessons seemed evident from
the reversals. No longer would producers be granted per-
manent certificates at prices substantially above prices pre-
viously paid by their pipeline purchaser merely by showing
that their contracts were negotiated at arms’ length; that
another pipeline had offered approximately the same price
for the gas; that their proposed price was “in keeping with
numerous other certified sales in the area”,’® and that if
the Commission did not grant the certificate at the proposed
price that the gas might not be dedicated to interstate com- -
merce. It also seemed clear that if the proposed price was
substantially higher than the prices theretofore paid by the
pipeline purchaser, that the producer was going to have to
explain the “reason why” the increased price was in the
present and future public convenience and necessity. At the
same time CATCO expressly held, and the inferior courts
echoed, that a Section 7 producer certificate proceeding was
not a Section 4 or 5 rate proceeding and that the Commis-
sion was not required to determine a just and reasonable
price or conduct a rate hearing to determine the appropri-
ate price in a certificate proceeding.

18 Public Serv. Comm’n v. FPC, 287 F. 2d 146, 150 (D.C. Cir.
1960) cert. denied, 365 U.S. 880 (1961).

14 Public Serv. Comm’n v. FPC, supra note 13.

15 287 F. 2d at 150.

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After remand, the immediate unanswered question obyi-
ous to all was what kind of evidence and how much wag
required for a producer to receive a price higher than the
prices previously paid by his pipeline purchaser.!® The
problem was compounded by the failure of the Commission
to declare what type of evidence it envisioned was required
by CATCO to support unconditional certification. Absent
any guidance in the remanded proceedings ODECO pre-
sented the evidence summarized below.27

Company-wide financial requirements as shown by all
domestic exploration and development activities conducted
by ODEC0O from its inception in 1953 to December 31, 1961.
On the basis of three alternative approaches, ODECO com-
pared costs and revenues over the life of all oil and gas
reservoirs found by ODECO. Each of these comparisons
reflected a substantial revenue deficiency (R. 356-59). This
evidence clearly demonstrates on the basis of ODECO’s
revenue requirements the ‘reason why’ its initial contract
price of 21.5¢ per Mef, plus tax reimbursement of 2.05¢
per Mef, is the proper initial price.

ODECO also participated with three other producers in
a four-company economic analysis which demonstrated the

16In reversing the unconditional certificates issued to CDECO,
the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia noted:
“The Catco decision does not prescribe a standard of proof
which must be satisfied to support an unconditional certifica-
tion.” Public Serv: Coimm’n v. FPC, 287 F. 2d 146, 150 (1960),
cert. denied, 365 U.S. 880 (1961).

17 ODECO did have the benefit of the remanded CATCO decision
issued January 22, 1962. Continental Oil Co., Opinion No. 351,
27 FPC 96 (1962). In the remanded CATCO proceedings the
Commission received and considered cost of service studies, a
discounted cash flow study, reserve studies, evidence of drilling
and operating costs, ete.

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ever-increasing sums of money required for exploration and
development operations in Southern Louisiana. In addition,
ODECO helped sponsor industry-wide evidence re:ating to
the increased cost of production and exploration, the decline
in the ratio of gas supplies to production, the price advan-
tage of natural gas over other competitive fuels for many
years, and similar data for the United States and Louisi-
ana.!®

ODECO does not contend that the above evidence is the
sine qua non of producer certificate proceedings. However,
ODECO does cont»nd that such evidence is relevant to a
determination of the peblic convenience and necessity, par-
ticularly since it tends to show the increasing costs being
incurred by ODECO and other producers which were re-
flected in the rising sales price level in Southern Louisiana.
ODECO should have saved the time and expense, for
the Commission upheld its Examiner’s exclusion of all of
the evidence described above. The Commission did not
attempt to strike a balance between a full-blown rate pro-
ceeding and the “bare bones” records which led to the
earlier reversals. Nor did the Commission afford ODECO
and the other producers the opportunity to augment the
record so as to support unconditional certification. Instead,
the Commission decided not to allow any cost, economic, or
other supporting evidence but relied solely on evidence
of other certified sales in the area. To do this the Commis-
sion developed the “in-line” concept, concluding that it was
not in the public convenience and necessity for a producer
to sell gas in interstate commerce above the “line” even if

18 Obviously this evidence falls far short of the standard necessary
to determine a just and reasonable rate. Continental Oi Co.
Opinion No. 351, 27 FPC 96 (1962).

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the producer by supporting evidence could justify a breach
above the “line”.29

3. The “In-Line” Concept

The most important aspect about the Commission’s “in,

line” concept is that the Commission takes the position that
the “in-line” price is the public convenience and necessity
price. The idea for determining an “in-line” price germi-
nated with CATCO when this Court said:

“Where the proposed price is not in keeping with
the public interest because it is out of line , , ,’20

The Ninth Circuit interpreted the “out of line” language
as follows:
“... the ‘line’ referred to in Cateo may properly be
referenced to relevant existing producer prices under

which substantial amounts of natural gas move in inter-
state commerce,’”””!

19 It is ironic that in 1959 the producers, to the dismay of the In-
tervenors, asked this Court’s blessing of a procedure that ignored
any explanation of the underlying basis for increased gas prices.
Now in 1965, the Commission and Intervenors, to the dismay of
the producers, ask this Court’s blessing of the same type of pro-
cedure whereby the Commission refuses to consider any evidence
to support increased gas prices and consequently issues certifi-
cates with price-reducing conditions, Further, it is interesting to
note that counsel for UGI, in the oral argument in United Gas
Improvement Co. v. Continental Oil es sepece US. ....... 14 L. Ed.
2d 466 (1965) advised the Court that, “Secondly, the real issue
here should not be what the pipeline pays for the gas but what-
the producers pay and what it costs them to bring the gas from
the ground. So unless the producers are made part of this record,
and they are subject to regulation, you are going to have Texas
Eastern trying to litigate this matter by having to prove what

somebody else’s costs were.” (Transcript of Argument, p. 41).

*° Atlantic Ref. Co. v. Public Serv. Comm’n, 360 U.S. 378, 391
(1959).

*1 United Gas Improvement Co. v. FPC 283 F. 2d 817, 823 (9th

’

Cir. 1960), cert. denied, 365 U.S. 879 (1961).

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On brief in this case the Commission defines the “in-line”
price as:
“.., the highest price at which substantial amounts of
gas had been certificated to enter the market under
other contemporaneous certificates not themselves sub-
ject to court review or otherwise suspect.”

Regardless of the definition used, it is more important to
determine what the Commission does in actual practice.
To begin with, the Commission staff prepares an exhibit
listing all of the contracts in a particular geographical area
filed with the Commission for a certain time period — in the
instant case for the years 1957-1958, This exhibit contains
the names of the buyers and sellers, contract and certifi-
cated prices and some of the quality specifications (sulphur,
water, and carbon dioxide content, etc.). It does not contain
any elements of cost or any data such as drilling depths,
size of reserves, ability of the reserves to produce, delivery
conditions, supply and demand factors, or any evidence to
show the price necessary for the maintenance of an ade-
quate gas supply.”* The Commission then determines the
“line” on the basis of the permanently certificated prices
contained in the exhibit.**

It is extremely important to understand at this point
what the Commission does because it explains why the
same Intervenors who asked for reversal in this Court six
and one-half years ago in CATCO are now defending the
Commission on the same type of inadequate record.
The Commission does not examine the actual contract
prices negotiated by the parties free of governmental re-
straint which would at least have some materiality as to
what the economic interplay of the free marketplace had
created. The Commission only looks to what it has done

* Brief for FPC, p. 17.

* For example, under the Commission “in-line” system, gas pro-
duced from offshore Louisiana at depths of 15,000 feet receives
the same price as gas produced onshore at depths of 3,000 feet.
Therefore of necessity, the Commission compares “apples with

“Tf there js an insufficient number of permanently certificated
prices, the Commission examines temporary certificates.

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before, i.e., to certificated prices. In the first contested hear.
ing for producer certificates in a particular geographical
area the only permanent certificates which are available to
be examined are those which the Intervenors have not previ-
ously contested, presumably because the price was satis.
factory to them. Once an “in-line” price is determined, it
perpetuates itself because the Commission will thereafter
look to the prices previously permanently certificated as
evidence of the price line in future proceedings. The cir.
cularity in the procedure is self-evident.*® When you con-
sider that the Commission and the Intervenors are con.
tending that the “in-line” price and the “public convenience
and necessity” price are the same, you reach the result
that the public convenience and necessity price is the price
which Intervenors do not oppose.®* In this manner the Com.
mission has abdicated to Intervenors the responsibility to
determine prices consistent with the present and future
public convenience and necessity. At the same time, use
of this “in-line” price method also explains why the Inter-
venors do not want any other evidence offered to support
higher prices in the record. It is a mathematical certainty
that prices will be frozen at Intervenor-approved levels.”

2° The mechanical “in-line” price theory is discussed in Morris,
Recent Independent Producer Certificate Cases: The “Suspect
Order” Rule, 32 Gro. Was L. Rev. 489 (1964).

26 For an excellent review of the Commission’s present policies with
regard to producer regulation including producer certificate
eases see Ross, The Area Rate Proceedings: An Unsettled Ex-
periment in Public Control of Natural Gas Prices, 18 Sw. L.
J. 163 (1964). Mr. Ross was counsel for the Commission in
CATCO and was also formerly counsel for United Gas Improve-
ment Co., one of the Intervenors.

77 The Commission eliminates many contracts at certain prices
from consideration, on the basis that the contracts are the sub-
ject of litigation or that the price level in the contracts is the
same level as prices in litigation. The effect of such an absurd
attitude is that any price level contested by the Intervenors
automatically eliminates any consideration of prices at that
same level in a producer certificate proceeding. This system has
resulted in the elimination of all prices above 18.5¢ per Mef in
determining the “in-line” price in Southern Louisiana causing a
price freeze at that level from 1956 through 1962.

4. The Court Below

There are some statements in Petitioners’ briefs describ-
ing the holding of the court below on the exclusion of evi-
dence question which may be misleading. The court below
did not hold that the Commission should not determine an
“in-line” price ; indeed, the court below expressly recognized
that the in-line price “is an important, sometimes decisive
factor.” (R. 625). What the court below held was that the
Commission does not satisfy its statutory obligation by
merely determining an “in-line” price. The Commission
is required by the Natural Gas Act to determine the price
that is consistent with the present and future public con-
venience and necessity, which entails a broader inquiry
than simply examining past regulatory action as exempli-
fied by “other certified sales in the area”,

In reversing the Commission for its refusal to consider

any cost, economic or other supporting evidence, the court
below properly characterized the Commission’s and Inter-
venor’s philosophy :

“As though Catco began and ended with ‘in-line’
the Commission and the intervenor-distributors are
mesmerized by this catch phrase into supposing that
the Commission’s responsibility is discharged with that
limited inquiry and if unsatisfied on that score, it is
free to reject out of hand a producer’s application for
a new service.” (R. 627)

The court below pointed out that the Commission does not
fulfill its statutory duty by a limited inquiry into the “in-
line” price, stating:

“To be sure, if the proposed price is not ‘in-line’ this
may become the dominant factor in denying the appli-

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cation. But it must be done as a part of the larger ele-
ment of ‘public convenience and necessity’.” (R. 628)

Time and again the court below emphasized that the Com.
mission is required by statute to determine whether a pro-
posed sale is in the public convenience and necessity and
that this broad term means more than the limited inquiry
into whether the price is “in-line”.*® The court below ad-
monished the Commission:

“The task facing the Commission in this developing
field calls for innovation and adaptation. It is not,
therefore, enough merely to inquire whether the price
is ‘in-line’. On the other hand, for §7 purposes, there
need not be a full dress § 4 or ¢5 rate hearing. The
Commission must, however, hear and evaluate all rele-
vant evidence bearing on public convenience and neces-
sity when it is urged, or held, that the proposed price
is out of line.” (R. 632) )

5. Justification Offered by Petitioners
for Excluding the Proffered Evidence

Petitioners have employed what might be called the “neg-
ative defense” to support their position that cost, economic
and other evidence should not be permitted in producer
certificate proceedings for the purpose of determining the
public convenience and necessity price. The principal reason
given to justify not receiving such evidence is that it would
defeat administrative expediency, or stated differently, to

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receive and consider such evidence requires additional time
and effort. To a lesser extent, Petitioners also argue that
such cost and economic evidence is duplicative of evidence
being received in area rate proceedings. Finally, Petitioners
urge that producers will not be hurt by limiting evidence in
certificate proceedings to the determination of an “in-line”
price because in the normal situation®® they can reject the
certificate offered by the Commission if they believe the
“in-line” price is too low.

The Commission has apparently concluded that if one
shred of evidence other than evidence of prices being paid
to other producers in the same area during the same time
period is admitted that an administrative monstrosity will
result. This is not true. The Commission admitted and
thoroughly cross-examined cost and economic evidence sim-
ilar to the evidence now in dispute in the proceedings under-
lying Opinion No. 351,°° Opinion No. 362,°! and Opinion
No. 399°? without a “monstrosity” resulting. Under current
Commission procedure, there are between 60 and 80 appli-
cations from a contiguous geographical area consolidated
and set for hearing. Even fewer producers are involved
since many producers have more than one application.
Out of this number there are usually not more than a
dozen producer counsel in any one hearing.** The majority
of the evidence is presented on a joint basis by the pro-
ducers, t.e., the producers all support the same witness. For

*°In this case the producers were not given the opportunity to
reject the conditioned certificates.

5° Continental Oil Co., Opinion No. 351, 27 FPC 96 (1962).

51 Skelly Oil Co., Opinion No. 362, 28 FPC 401 (1962).

52 Dnited Gas Pipe Line Co., Opinion No. 399, 30 FPC 329 (1963).

**Many of the producers are not represented in these hearings
and do not participate in the administrative process,

to take whatever price is awarded them, no matter how low.

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example, in Opinion No. 351, which was the CATCO remand,
Continental Oil Company, one of the four CATCO pro-
ducers, presented a cost of service presentation based on
Continental’s costs and made the assumption that the other
three producers’ costs were the same. Repeatedly, in Opin-
ion No. 351, the Commission pointed out that Continental’s
presentation fell far short of the type of proof required for
§ 4 or §5 proceedings. The producers, as well as the Com.
mission, have accumulated considerable experience since the
early days of producer regulation and know that it is not
necessary for each producer to present, for example, sep-
arate witnesses on cost trends, production depths, ete. The
producers have little difficulty in making joint presentations
on problems common to each.** Given any guidance from
the Commission, the producers in this case would have made
more joint presentations with less duplications than they
did. A dogmatic “no evidence” approach is not the answer
required to avoid the detailed intricacies of a “just and
reasonable” rate determination. Considerations of admin-
istrative convenience should not be used to deny the ad-
missibility of relevant evidence or to deny a certificate
applicant the opportunity to show the reason why a pro-
posed price is in the present or future public convenience
and necessity.

New York and UGI, et al, in their briefs before this Court
have attempted to inject the idea that the producers prefer
protracted certificate proceedings.®® Apparently this theory
is premised on the hypothesis that the Commission issues
temporary certificates ex parte to producers at whatever
price the producers request, and that if the producers

84In these consolidated proceedings each producer is entitled to
rely on all of the evidence: presented.

35 Brief for the Public Service Commission of the State of New
York, pp. 20-21; Brief for the United Gas Improvement Co.,
et al, pp. 28-30.

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impede the hearings on the applications for permanent
certificates that they can continue to collect “excessive”
prices under temporary certificates for longer periods.
First, the Commission does not grant temporary certifi-
cates at whatever prices the producers seek and has the
full power which it frequently uses to condition temporary
certificates to lower prices. In the second place, the Com-
mission could insert refund conditions in temporary certifi-
cates with a floor at a level satisfactory to the Intervenors
so that the producers could collect their full contract prices
during the pendency of the temporary certificates. If
it was later determined that the price was toe high the
producer would then refund the excessive amounts collected.
The Commission also frequently utilizes this latter pro-
cedure.*® Intervenors would virtually eliminate producer
certificate proceedings rather than require the Commission
to properly exercise its discretion in issuing temporary
certificates.

Incidental to their delay argument, Intervenors state
that protracted hearings will result in the producers ¢ol-
lecting excessive prices for long periods to the detriment
of the consumer even if the excess price is later refunded.
This is an unusual argument since the alternative approach
which they advocate is to develop a procedure to issue per-
manent certificates quickly at lower prices and then let the
producer immediately file for rate increases which will be
suspended and collected subject to refund. Under either
system, interstate pipelines may pay prices subject te
refund for long periods. However, the producer greatly
benefits by having an early opportunity to seek a firm
price at a level which he thinks is justified. On brief

*¢ Of course, if the Commission does not insert refund conditions
in temporary certificates which the Intervenors believe are
necessary, then they may appeal such action to the courts.

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in this Court, the Commission very eloquently states why
the producers want a firm price not subject to refund as
soon as possible.®”

“For very sound economic reasons, many producers
wish to commence service at a firm price rather than
run the risk of the indefinite and potentially large re.
fund obligations which could result if they were certifi.
cated at contract rates subject to a refund condition
should these rates ultimately prove unjustified. If they
know the price is free and clear, they can release funds
for operational purposes, make necessary payments to
royalty owners (who often are entitled to a percentage
of the sales price) and meet their obligations under
State taxing statutes (which in many areas are calev-
lated at a percentage of producer revenues).”®

New York sponsors the duplicative evidence argument,
which is: why allow the producers to introduce cost and
economic evidence in a certificate proceeding when the same
type of evidence can be heard in an area rate proceeding!
The Commission examiners, now with the approval of the
Commission in the Permian Basin area rate case,** have
systematically excluded all individual cost and economic
evidence in the area rate proceedings. For a small producer

37 Brief for FPC, p. 18.

38 The Permian Rate proceeding just completed took 5 years and
approximately 250 hearing days to complete. The Southern Lou-
isiana Area Rate proceeding now in progress has completed ap-
proximately 260 hearing days as of this date. Consider this in
contrast to the hearing days in the three opinions in which eost
evidence was admitted : Opinion No. 351 (48 days) ; Opinion No.
362 (10 days); Opinion No. 399 (23 days). Is it any wonder
that: “Thus in the nine in-line determinations made prior to the
present opinion, of a total of 87 sales whose initial price was set
below contract levels, only 13 have subsequently filed for higher
rates, either to the original contract level or to take advantage of
periodic escalations subsequently coming due.” Brief for FPC,
p. 19.

89 Area Rate Proceeding, Opinion No. 468, .... FPC ...... (1965).

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such as ODECO with only a few sales, this duplicative evi-
dence argument is devastating since the Commission will
never have any evidence before it in either certificate or rate
proceedings which would show what the price set by the
Commission does to the small producer. In any event, the
evidence which the producers want the Commission to con-
sider in a certificate proceeding is not the evidence of the
kind and quality necessary to find a just and reasonable
rate such as is now being considered in the area rate pro-
ceedings. The area rate proceeding evidence is much more
extensive and sophisticated and, indeed, a small producer
could not afford to make such costly presentations.

New York also suggests that the producers can reject
a certificate in the usual situation or, in any event, they can
file for a rate increase up to their contract price. The latter
argument is, of course, subject to the qualification that
there be no price moratorium such as the Commission and
Intervenors are defending in this case. In any event, the
producers’ option to reject certificates is fictitious relief
which this Court clearly recognized in its CATCO opinion
when it stated, “Since some 90% of all commercial gas
moves in the interstate market, . . .”“° Almost all of the
nation’s natural gas supply comes from four or five states
and these states can only absorb a limited amount of the
natural gas produced within their borders. If a producer
rejects one interstate sale he does so because he has found
intrastate market. He cannot expect the Commission to
offer any better terms if he once again offers his gas in the
interstate market.

6. A Practical Remedy

The problem still remains — how to reconcile the two
extremes — the Commission’s theory that prices can be de-

hg Ref. Co. v. Pubic Serv. Comm’n, 360 U.S. 378, 394

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termined in a sterile “in line” vacuum versus the “alleged”
intention of the producers to convert every §7 certificate
proceeding into a § 4 or §5 rate proceeding. ODECO sug-
gests that with a little thought, a little time, and a little
effort, particularly on the part of the Commission, that
this problem can be resolved. ODECO and other producers
have no objection to the determination of an “in-line” price,
An “in-line” price properly determined is material and
relevant in a Section 7 certificate case. Most producers
would rather accept the “in-line” price than become en-
gaged in an administrative hearing with an agency of
the Federal government. ODECO suggests that the Com.
mission continue to determine an “in-line” price in each
certificate proceeding and hold that the producers can
collect this price on a minimal showing, i.c., after they
have shown a need for the gas, that they are ready, willing
and able to perform under their contracts according to the
Natural Gas Act, and that the contracts were negotiated at
arms’ length.*! It is only as to those producers who want
something more than the “in-line” price that the Commis-
sion should admit additional evidence to give the producer
the opportunity to prove he is entitled to a higher price.
All ODECO asks is to be given the opportunity to shoulder
the statutory burden by showing that its proposed price is
consistent with the public convenience and necessity even
if its proposed price exceeds an appropriately determined
“in-line” price.

41 Apparently, the Commission contemplated this procedure at one
time. See United Gas Improvement Co. v. FPC, 283 F. 2d 811,
820 (9th Cir. 1960), cert. denied, 365 U.S. 879 (1961) where the
court stated :

“It is apparently with reference to this principle that the
Commission states in its brief: ‘Where a proposed price is
‘in line’ a certificate issues on a minimal showing; where,
however, the price is ‘out of line’ the applicant must make
an extensive demonstration in support of his rate, else he
suffers a certificate denial or a price reduction’.”

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II.

THE RECORD IS DEVOID OF ANY EVIDENCE TO
SUPPORT THE 23.55¢ PER MCF PRICE INCREASE
MORATORIUM IMPOSED BY THE COMMISSION

In the orders under review the Commission imposed a
condition on the certificates issued to ODECO forbidding
the filing of rate increases above 23.55¢ per Mef until July
1, 1967 or the completion of the Southern Louisiana Area
Rate proceeding, whichever is earlier. (R. 582) ODECO
agrees with the court below that the Commission lacks stat-
utory authority to impose such a price increase moratorium.
However, the briefs concurrently filed by other respond-
ents will thoroughly discuss this point so that further
discussion by ODECO appears unnecessary.

In addition, ODECO points out that there is absolutely
no evidence in the record to support the Commission’s con-
clusion that triggering and price redeterminations will
result from the filing of rate increases above 23.55¢ per
Mcf.** The Commission does not attempt to show any evi-
dence to support this conclusion.**

“In fact, sales from the Southern Louisiana area have been made
under permanent certificates issued by the Commission at firm
prices of 24.05¢ per Mef since 1959. See Opinion No. 321,
Trunkline Gas Co., Opinion No. 321, 21 FPC 704 (1959).

“ This lack of evidence results from the fact that no party in the
hearings before the Commission contended that such price in-
crease moratorium should be imposed or presented evidence
directed to the price at which triggering and price redeter-
minations would result. Therefore, the Presiding Examiner’s
decision does not even discuss the price increase moratorium
question. This lack of notice and hearing alone is sufficient to
vitiate the Commission’s sua sponte imposition of a price in-
crease moratorium.

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Instead, the Commission argues that ODECO did not
properly preserve this error in its application for rehearing
before the Commission (Br. p. 44). In particular, the Com.
mission cites a fragmentary portion of ODECO’s applica.
tion for rehearing and contends that ODECO failed to
properly preserve the error now asserted.“* ODECO snb.
mits that the Commission’s attempt to hide behind this
technicality is to no avail, since the point of error in its
application for rehearing clearly and unequivocally raised
the price increase moratorium issue and the lack of evidence
to support the 23.55¢ per Mef triggering level found by
the Commission.

44The Commission also urges that ODECO had the burden to
reopen the record to controvert the Commission’s finding as to
triggering and price redeterminations (Br. p. 44). This novel
theory contradicts established precedent that the proponent of
a certificate condition has the burden to support such condition
by substantial evidence and soundly based findings in the record.
Pure Oil Co. v. FPC, 292 F. 2d 350, 352 (7th Cir., 1961). Until
such supporting evidence was presented, ODECO had no burden
to adduce evidence to controvert the Commission’s unsupported
“finding.”

“5 The pertinent portion of ODECO’s application for rehearing
provides as follows:

“The Commission has erred and has exceeded its author-
ity in Ordering Paragraph (C) providing a moratorium on
the filing of all price increases in excess of 23.55¢ per MCF
pending the issuance of a final decision in the area rate
proceeding in Docket No. AR61-2 or until July 1, 1967,
whichever is earlier.

“There is no evidence in the record before the Commis-
sion which pertains to the effect of filing by Odeco of its
contractual price increase.” (R. 603).

A reading of the full point of error (R. 603-606) removes any
doubt that ODECO adequately raised the issue now asserted.

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CONCLUSION

For the foregoing reasons, it is respectfully requested
that the opinion of the court below be affirmed except inso-
far as it affirms the Commission’s power to refund amounts
previously collected pursuant to unconditional permanent
certificates.

Respectfully submitted,

J. Evans Arrweiy —
First City National Bank
Building
Houston, Texas 77002
Attorney for Respondent
Ocean Drilling &

Exploration Company

Of Counsel:
W. H. Devsxzn, Jr.
First City National Bank Building
Houston, Texas 77002
J. A. O'Connor, Jr.
H. Y. Rowz

Murphy Building
El Dorado, Arkansas

September 30, 1965

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Source: Frix Law Library, https://www.frixlaw.com/law-library/documents/brief%3Amicro_IA40386411_0193%3A21. Public record. Not legal advice.
