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## Record

- **Collection:** Supreme Court brief
- **Document type:** Petition
- **Published:** January 1, 1978
- **Citation:** 438 U.S. 915

## Text

IN THE

Supreme Court of the United States

Octroper TERM, 1976

No.

7
6-1556
Coton Brown and J. P. Nicery, Petitioners,
v.

Unirep States or AMERICA, Respondent.

JOINT PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI
TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT

CiaRK M. OCLIFrorD

Carson M. Gass

Tuomas RicHARD SPRADLIN
Barry J. IsRaEL

Ciirrorp, Giass, McILwain &
FINNEY
815 Connecticut Avenue, N.W.

(an) ae odes C. 20006

Counsel for Petitioners
May 9, 1977

Pures or Bryson S. Apams Purine, Inc. Wasmrworon, D. C.

INDEX

Page
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Sratres Court or Appgats ror THE Tuinp Crrcuir.. 1

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STATEMENT oF THE CasE
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Reasons ror GRANTING THE WRIT

1. The Decision of the Court of Appeals To Re-
verse and Remand for a New Trial Erroneously
Ignored the Total Absence of Any Evidence
To Implicate Either Colon Brown or J. P. Nicely
During the Statutory Period in a Conspiracy

To Violate the Antitrust Laws ............... 16
Colon Brown ...... wideeansededdsnuneds 17
i: is EE a catanecohotcanveseaihcanseben 20
ED cn ccnnnvecedvesadcodecetsbhdtes 22

2. By Effectively Perpetuating the Erroneously
Retroactive Application Given by the Trial
Court to United States v. Container Corp., 393
U.S. 333 (1969), the Court of A s Violated

the Due Process Clause of the itution. .. 24
GRD. ocd ccc deccedteadésbédbtuccdccveupdedctt 32
APPENDIX

Opinion of the Court of Appeals ............... la
Excerpts From Appendix in the Court of Appeals 58a
Selected Exhibits From the Trial Below......... 174a
Excerpts From Trial Transcript ................ 192a

Go t Memorandum, M 1 Docket
Wo. 240 (Tr. 8058) nf. ts 16a

ii
AUTHORITIES
CASES: Page
American Tobacco Co. v. United States, 328 U.S. 781
CURED cccccccccccossccpecesescesecess A eeeeees
Belliston v. Texaco, Inc., 455 F.2d 175 (10th Cir. 1972),
certiorari denied, 408 U.S. 928 (1972) ........++- 26
Blumenthal v. United States, 332 U.S. 539 (1947) .... 16
Bouie v. City of Columbia, 378 U.S. 347 (1964) ..... 28, 29
Cement Manufacturers Protective Association v. United
States, 268 U.S. 588 (1925) ........... 25, 26, 27, 30, 31
Conaway v. United States, 349 F.2d 907 (8th Cir. 1965),
certiorari denied, 382 U.S. 976 (1966) ........... 17
Curley v. United States, 160 F.2d 229 (D.C. Cir. 1947),
certiorari denied, 331 U.S. 837 (1947) .....--..--
Gray v. Shell Oil Company, 469 F.2d 742 (9th Cir. 1972),
certiorari denied, 412 U.S. 948 (1973) ..........- °6
Hamling v. United States, 418 U.S. 87 (1974) ......-. 29
Harris v. United States, 404 U.S. 1232 (1971) ........ 20
Johnson v. Florida, 391 U.S. 596 (1968) ...........++ 20
Kotteakos v. United States, 328 U.S. 750 (1946) ...... 16

Kroger Co. v. Federal Trade Commission, 438 F.2d 1372
(6th Cir. 1971), certiorari denied, 404 U.S. 871

SEED -nocducentaccésdpunsssbetase ch ddeneseese 31
Lemon v. Kurtzman, 411 U.S. 192 (1973) ............ 30
Maple Flooring Manufacturers Ass'n v. United States,

SD We ED GENO wanccscdcceceucscesscceses 25, 27
McKinney v. Parsons, 513 F.2d 264 (5th Cir. 1975) ... 29
Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15 (1973) ............ 29, 30
Mortensen v. United States, 322 U.S. 369 (1944) ..... 17
Parker v. United States, 378 F.2d 641 (1st Cir. 1967),

certiorari denied, 389 U.S. 842 (1967) .......... 17
Pierce v. United States, 314 U.S. 306 (1941) ......... 28
Stanley Marks v. United States, 45 U.S.L.W. 4233

PEE scenncustascudbdsndaduansounseseussets 29, 30
Theatre Enterprises, Inc. v. Paramount Film Distrib-

uting Corp., 346 U.S. 537 (1954) .............45: 11

Thompson v. City of Louisville, 362 U.S. 199 (1960) . .16, 20

Toussie v. United States, 397 U.S. 112 (1970) ........ 23
United States v. Allard, 240 F.2d 840 (3d Cir. 1957),

certiorari denied, 353 U.S. 939 (1957) ........... 17
United States v. Container Corporation of America,

ff: e Ff eer. 2, 12, 19, 24, 25, 26,

27, 28, 29, 30, 31

Authorities Continued iil

Page

United States v. Insco, 496 F.2d 204 (5th Cir. 1974) .. 29

United States v. Jacobs, 513 F.2d 564 (9th Cir. 1975).. 29

United States v. Marchisio, 344 F.2d 653 (2d Cir. 1965) 16

United States v. Palladino, 490 F.2d 499 (1st Cir. 1974) 29
United States v. Sawyer, 294 F.2d 24 (4th Cir. 1961),

certiorari denied, 368 U.S. 916 (1961) ........... 17
se _ v. Sherpiaz, Inc., 512 F.2d 1361 (D.C. Cir.

EE PRE De OE RS ang ey EL eee 29

United States v. Thevis, 484 F.2d 1149 (5th Cir. 1973) 29
United States v. United States Gypsum Co., 550 F.2d

RRR I cA a ie 1
— 2 v. Wasserman, 504 F.2d 1012 (5th Cir.
RR ES EE ELS LO EN ae re ey ee 29
United States ex rel. Clark v. Anderson, 502 F.2d 1080
SPL PT 6, bkdddouanceanesieess hanced sdeece 29
Vachon v. New Hampshire, 414 U.S. 478 (1974) ...... 20
Viviano Macaroni Company v. Federal Trade Commis-
ston, 411 F.2d 255 (3d Cir. 1969) ............... 31
Wall Products Co. v. National Gypsum Co., 326 F.Supp.
if - 4 & RAR pai Saeed 26

Webster v. Sinclair Refining Com , 338 F.Supp. 248
(S.D. Ala. 1971) — -

ad cae ca babae ies iataleedcns 26
STaTUTEs :
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 29 ....... 17
Robinson-Patman Act, 15 U.S.C. § 13(b)....... 3, 7, 24, 25,
26, 27, 31
wes of the Supreme Court of the United States, Rule .
Sherman Antitrust Act, 15 U.S.C. §1........ 2, 3, 4, 24, 25,
United States Code ie
SI eed ch See rs ed 3, 22
a 2
United States Constitution
SIE WT digs benbbh ails dbdéccdncecsctkeeccs 2
Article I, Section 10

No.

Coton Brown and J. P. Nicery, Petitioners,
v.

Unitep States or America, Respondent.

JOINT PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI
TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT

Petitioners, Colon Brown and J. P. Nicely, pursuant
to Rule 46 of the Rules of this Court jointly pray that
a writ of certiorari issue to review the opinion and
judgment of the United States Court of Appeals for
the Third Cireuit entered in these proceedings on
January 6, 1977.

The opinion of the Court of Appeals (Appendix la)
has been reported at 550 F.2d 115 (3rd Cir. 1977).

The Judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Third
Cireuit was entered on January 6, 1977. A timely pe-
tition for rehearing filed by the respondent was de-
nied on March 10, 1977. On March 31, 1977, Mr. Justice
Brennan extended the time in which to file a petition
for a writ of certiorari to May 9, 1977. This petition
for certiorari is filed within that extended period.
The Court's jurisdiction is invoked under 28 U.S.C.
§ 1254(1).

1. Whether the failure of the Respondent to intro-
duce any evidence at trial connecting either petitioner
with participation during the statutery period in a
conspiracy charged under 15 U.S.C. § 1 required that
the Court of Appeals for the Third Cireuit reverse the
judgment of the District Court and enter an order aec-
quitting the petitioners.

®. Whether fundamental fairness and the Due Proe-
ess Clause were violated when the courts below effee-
tively gave erroneously retroactive application to this
Court's decision in United States vy. Container Corp.,
393 U.S. 333 (1969).

STATUTES INVOLVED
United States Constitution, Amendment V:

“No person shall be held to answer for a capital,
or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a present-
ment or imlietment of a Grand Jury, except in
cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the
Militia, when in actual service in time of War or
publie danger; nor shall any person be subject for
the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life
or limb; nor shall be compelled in any

ease to be a witness against himself, nor be de-

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prived of life, liberty, or property, without due
process of law; nor shall private property be taken
for publie use, without just compensation.”

United States Code, Title 15:

§ 13(b). “‘Upon proof beiug made, at any hearing
on a complaint under this section, that there bas
been discrimination in price or services or facili-
ties furnished, the burden of rebu the prima-
facie case thus made by showing justification shall

the prima-facie
case made by showing that his lower price or
the furnishing of services or facilities to any

chaser or purchasers was made in good to
meet an equally low price of a competitor, or the
services or facilities furnished by a competitor.”

United States Code, Title 15:

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with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal . . . .”’

United States Code, Title 18:

§ 3282. Offenses Not ot as “Except as other-
wise expressly provided , ho person shall
spansetiel Gel on iy off ~
capital, unless the indictment is found or the

formation is instituted within five years next after
such offense shal] have been committed.”’

Rules of the Supreme Court of the United States:

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a petition for writ of certiorari therefrom; or,
without summons and severance, any one or more

ot Gam any egy @ pes gee oe
two or more of them may join in an appeal or
petition.”’
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
Colon Brown

From January 1, 1965, to the time of his indictment
on December 27, 1973, Colon Brown was Chairman of
the Board and Chief Executive Officer of the National
Gypsum Company, a producer of Gypsum wallboard.
On December 27, 1973, he, along with some other de-
fendants, both individual and corporate, was indicted
for allegedly having conspired to violate Section 1 of
the Sherman Antitrust Act, 15 U.S.C. 61, by fixing
the price, terms, and conditions of sale of gypsum
hoard products. Nearly 36 months were consumed by
grand jury proceedings alone. Following a trial in
excess of four months resulting in a transcript of over
15,000 pages, a jury entered a verdict of guilty as
to all defendants. From this verdict, Petitioner
Brown sought review by the Third Cirenit arguing
that the evidence presented at trial was insuffi-
cient to support the verdict. In the alternative he re-
quested a new trial because the trial court committed
numerous errors of law, failed to discharge the jury
in light of the repeated misconduct of the prosecution,
and coerced the hopelessly deadlocked jury.

On January 6, 1977, the Third Cireuit agreed that
prejudicial errors had occurred and thus the judgment
of conviction was reversed and the case was remanded
to the trial court. In doing so, however, the Third Cir-
cuit ignored Judge Hunter's own significant observa-
tion that the only possible references which might con-

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ceivably link Colon Brown to a price-fixing conspiracy
was for a period almost three vears prior to the be-
ginning statutory period. (Appendix p. 27a).

The evidence shows without dispute that Colon Brown
prior to January 1, 1965, had nothing whatsoever to do
with the pricing or sale of gypsum products. His entire
experience during his years of employment with the
National Gvpsum Company had been with other prod-
uet lines aml in positions related only to the manu-
facture and shipping of such products. Between
January 1, 1965, and the commencement of the rele-
vant period under the statute of limitations, De-
eember 27, 1968, the evidence presented against
Colon Brown fell into three categories discussed below.
Even so, very little in the voluminous record of the case
even referenced Colon Brown. The scarce mentions of
him were legally innocuous. No witness testified as to
any meetings, telephone conversations, or correspon-
dence in which he engaged in any discussions with eom-
petitors about the pricing of gypsum products. His
own sworn and unrefuted testimony explains fully the
legally valid purpose of any oceasion on which he com-
municated with officials of other companies engaged in
the manufacture and sale of gypsum. The prosecution
made no slightest effort to produce witnesses or docu-
ments that might cast any doubt on these explanations.
Accordingly, the purported case against Colon Brown
consisted solely of the prosecutor’s innuendo and sur-

mise and failed utterly to meet the minimum standards
of probative evidence.

First, in an effort to connect Colon Brown with an
alleged agreement among competitors to increase the
price of gypsum wallboard effective December 15, 1965,
the prosecution introduced calendar entries and ree-

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ords showing that Colon Brown had some meetings and
telephone contacts earlier in 1965 with officials of the
United States Gypsum Company. But no evidence of
any kind was introduced to show that these ever in-
volved discussions of gypsum wallboard pricing. The
only evidence in the record with regard to those meet-
ings established their wholly lawful nature and pur-
pose. (App. p. 154a-16l1a).

Second, in an effort to connect Colon Brown with
an alleged agreement to change terms of credit effee-
tive March 1, 1966, the prosecution was able to argue
only that in August of 1965 Mr. Brown had authorized
a study of National Gypsum Company's eredit terms
and that, ina quite unremarkable coincidence, one fol-
lowup memorandum in a series of internal National
(iypsum memoranda to and from Mr. Brown in con-
nection with this credit study was dated December 10,
1965, a date on which his calendar showed the name of
Mr. Fredericks, then with the Bestwall Division of
Georgia-Pacitie Corporation. Neither Colon Brown nor
Mr. Fredericks remembered any such meeting. (App.
p. 15a).

Totally lacking in the record is any indication that
National's study of credit problems was initiated pur-
suant to any diseussions with competitors or for reasons
other than those completely internal to the National
(ivpsum Company. There was no testimony offered
and no doeument presented to prove that Colon Brown
ever talked with a competitor about credit terms in
the sale of gvpsum wallboard.

In the end, the prosecution's case against Petitioner
Colon Brown was reduced to the argument that he was
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer

of National Gypsum Company during a period when
one or more of the Corporation's employees, in accord-
ance with open policy followed pursuant to advice of
outside legal counsel, on oeeasion called a competitor
to verify a eustomer’s report that the competitor had
offered lower competitive prices or more advantageous
terms and conditions of sale. As was documented fully
at the trial, such action—popularly referred to as
**verifieation’’—was undertaken: (a) to ensure com-
pliance with the requirements of the Robinson-Patman
Act by establishing a bona fide basis for extending a
lower price to meet a reported lower price offered by
a competitor, 15 U.S.C, § 13(b); or (b) to prevent eus-
tomer fraud. Virtually every witness who testified to
a purpose for price verification in the gypsum indus-
trv, including Petitioner Brown, cited the reasons of
Robinson-Patman compliance or protection from eus-
tomer fraud, or both."

The great bulk of the Respondent's evidence pre-
sented as to all defendants at the trial related to the
period prior to December 27, 1968, and thus prior to
the time Petitioner could be held responsible under
the antitrust laws. None of this evidence sueceeds
even remotely in connecting Petitioner with any unlaw-
ful conspiratorial conduct. For the period relevant to
a criminal trial based on an indictment issued on De-
cember 27, 1973, there is an absolute absence of any
evidence even purporting to implicate Colon Brown in
any conspiracy to violate the antitrust laws.

' See the testimony of witnesses :

Bean, App. 58a-59a ; Simpson, 60a-61a; Gimlin, 62a-65a ; McCaskill,
66a-67a; Burch, 68a-69a; A. L. Meyer, 70a-Tla; Sikes, 27a-74a;
Atwell, 80a-82a; Montgomery, 90a-92a; Galvin, 93a-95a; Hayes,
96a-97a ; Thompson, 98a-108a ; Fisch, 109a-113a; and the individual
defendants; Watt, 114a-115a; and Brown, 168a-169a.

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In any event the central issue of the case was verifi-
cation. Yet the record shows, without question, that
verification had first taken place long before Colon
Brown became Chairman of the Board or had anything
to do with the entire company’s pricing procedures. In
the four vears after he became Chairman of the Board
and before National ceased verifving, there is no in-
stance shown by the record in which Petitioner Brown
ever made or requested a verification call to a competi-
tor, Nothing in the reeord establishes that he super-
vised such calls or had any knowledge of their extent.

Colon Brown's sworn testimony was that he had
nothing to de with competitive price verification and
that he did net even learn of its existence until 1968
shortly before the practice was diseonutinned by the
National Gypsum Company. CApp. p. Pola-T2a).
Mr. Atwell, who was the National officer auth-
orized to make verification calls, did not recall ever
talking to Mr. Brown about them. (App. p. 75a-76a).
Nor is there proof of any kind that Colon Brown even
knew what, if anything, other gypsum wallboard pro-
ducers did with respect to verification of customers’
reports of competitive pricing. The record shows that
compaiy poliey required cessation of price verifiea-
tion with competitors in January of 1969. CApp. p.
89a; Dla-M2a). There is no evidence that Colon
Brown knew of a single verification eall by National
(ivpsum Company thereafter or, indeed, at any time
within the statute of limitations. ‘The unimportance
of verification to Colon Brown is obvious from the evi-
dence that in December of 1969 his assistants were un-
sure that he even knew that these calls had been stopped
in January of that year. (App. p. S3a-86a; GX-25,
App. p. 174a).

J. P. Nicely

Unlike any of the other several appellants to the
Third Cireuit Court of Appeals, Petitioner J. P. Nicely
did not seek the alternative of a new trial. Instead,
Mr. Nicely chose to base his appeal on the single com-
pelling fact that after over four months of trial it was
painfully obvious that he had been mistakenly indicted.
There was an utter absence of evidence even to sug-
gest that Petitioner Nicely had participated in the
conspiracy charged. Yet presented with only this
request for acquittal because of insufficient evidence,
the Court of Appeals somehow ignored the basis for
Mr. Nicely’s appeal and the clear statement that he
did not seek a new trial and instead reversed and re-
manded his case to the trial court. By ignoring the

clear thrust of his appeal, the Court of Appeals was in
error.

The evidence presented at trial failed completely to
implicate Petitioner Nicely even as a participant in
most of the fragmented and sporadic events which the
prosecution portrayed as elements in a price-fixing
couspiracy. There was as to Mr. Nicely no evidence
that he had even opportunities to reach agreements or
understandings with competitors that could conceivably
have violated the antitrust laws.

Petitioner Nicely was a sales specialist for National
Gypsum Company. Throughout his employment with
the Company he spent at least 60 percent of his time in
the field calling on customers. (App. p. 118a-119a). His
responsibility was for sales, not for pricing. This spe-
cialized nature of his service is further demonstrated
by Mr. Nicely’s position with the Company. During
the statutory period he was not even a corporate officer.

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He was instead a‘ Vice President, Sales’’ for the Gold
Bond Building Products Division. (App. p. 117a). He
had no official pricing authority.

Mr. Nicely, while fulfilling his specialty of calling
on dealer customers of the Division during his term as
a sales vice-president, had no occasion to meet with his
competitors or to discuss industry matters with them
either in person, by telephone, or through correspon-
dence. His infrequent contacts with representatives
of National's competitors were limited to casual greet-
ings at customers’ conventions and the occasional ne-
gotiation of intra-industry sales with procuremen: per-
sonnel. (App. p. 135a-136a). Apart from one dinner
in 1954 or 1955, he never attended a meeting of the
Gypsum Association, one touchstone of the Govern-
ment’s case, and never received any reports about such
meetings. (App. p. 136a-137a).

As to the elements of the prosecution's case to which
the bulk of its evidence was directed, Petitioner Nicely
appears only as a peripheral participant. Moreover,
all the meager attempts to link him toe the major events
supposedly constituting the conspiracy were well prior
to the beginning of the statutory period. For instance,
the prosecution's opening statement described the
December 15, 1965, price increase, three years prior
to the statutory period, as one of the most important
elements of its case. Yet on this assertedly key ele-
ment, no evidence of improper conduct by Petitioner
Nicely was ever introduced. The proseeution’s evi-
dence against Mr. Nicely relating to this price increase
was confined to its confused questioning with regard to
a series of so called “Plan of Action’? documents
(GX 500-502, App. p. 176a-178a). Mr. Nicely partieci-
pated in the preparation of these documents which un-

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disputed evidence proved were developed by National
in reaction to learning on November 17, 1965, of a sur-
prise announcement by United States Gypsum Com-
pany (**USG’’) of a price increase. Those documents
constituted National’s efforts to implement an inde-
pendent business decision to follow USG’s price in-
erease. (App. p. 77a, et seq.; p. 137a; p. 14la, et seq.;
p. 162a, et seq.).

Although National and other industry members
followed USG’s lead, such action is not indicative of
collusion. It is completely consistent with competition.
Parallel pricing action is not proof of conspiracy even
in a civil case against a corporation. It has no proba-
tive value in a criminal case against an individual.
Theatre Enterprises, Inc. v. Paramount Film Distri-
buting Corp., 346 U.S. 537, 541 (1954).

In any event, Mr. Nicely did not make the decision
to follow USG’s price increase. He received no advance
word of the change (App. p. 137a), and participated
only to the extent that he followed the orders of his
superior, National’s President, Mr. Manske. (App.
p. 148a; p. 146a-147a; p. 149a-153a). No evidence was
ever presented to offer even the slightest challenge to
Petitioner Nicely’s testimony that this was his sole
connection with the 1965 price change.

The prosecution also offered evidence to link Peti-
tioner Nicely with another pre-statutory period inci-
dent involving a March, 1966, change in credit terms
even though Mr. Nicely had no authority in this area
other than to indicate whether from a Sales Depart-
ment standpoint proposed changes were acceptable.
(App. p. 138a-139a). On the record presented below
there was nothing which could connect Mr. Nicely in

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any way with a conspiracy to fix credit terms, even if
one had been shown to exist. Absolutely no evidence
was offered to place him at meetings, discussions, or in
correspondence with competitors about credit matters.

A third and perhaps the major area of allegedly
conspirational activity was the antitrust policy of the
National Gypsum Company permitting direct verifica-
tion with competitors of customers’ claims of lower
prices. This policy was already in effect when, on
February 25, 1964, Mr. Nicely became Vice-President,
Sales-East located in Buffalo. (App. p. 116a). He was
unable to testify when verification calls began. (App.
p. 127a-128a). He testified without contradiction that
he had no direct participation in verification, that he
never made a verification call to a competitor or
received one from a competitor, and, that he never
talked to a competitor about verification of a price.
He testified further that he never gave instructions to
anyone else with regard to verification of prices with
competitors and never asked any employee of National
Gypsum Company to make a verification call. (App.
p. 127a-128a, 134a; p. 140a). °

Moreover, the sole initiative taken by Petitioner
Nicely with respect to verification was to suggest to
Mr. Kenneth Atwell that the practice of verification
be discontinued when, in January, 1969, he read of this
Court’s decision in United States v. Container Corp.,
393 U.S. 333 (1969). (App. p. 132a-133a).

It is clear that Petitioner Nicely had no role in veri-
fication other than to question in light of the Container
case whether it should continue. There was no evidence
that he made or received verification calls. Neither
was he shown ever to have supervised procedures for

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such calls or to have received reports of their results.
He vigorously denied any participation in verification
other than his suggestion that it be terminated, and no
witness was shown to have made a verification call to
or received one from Mr. Nicely.

Even the Government’ prosecutor finally appeared
to recognize Mr. Nicely’s lack of involvement. When
objecting to a line of questions directed to Mr. Nicely
on the verification issue, he stated: ‘*Objection, Your
Honor. Mr. Warnke has asked a series of questions
now as to this man’s understanding of the practices
[verification] which he wasn’t even engaged in he
said.”’ (App. p. 129a-130a). The objection was sus-
tained. (Jd.)

Perhaps the proseeution’s most outrageous effort to
build a case against Petitioner Nicely where none
existed was its allegation of predatory conduct
allegedly designed to discourage the competition of
single-plant producers. That specious effort by the
prosecution related to Mr. Claude Huckleberry in his
operation of Texas Gypsum Company in the early
1960's. The dominant theme of Mr. Huckleberry’s
testimony at trial was that he had some inherent right
to take over the customers of other gypsum producers
in the Texas market without competitive reaction.
(£.g., App. p. 194a). Adopting this theme in its effort
to convict Mr. Nicely, the prosecution strained to attach
significance to a sales call he made on a Texas customer
in 1962, over six years prior to the statutory period.
Mr. Nicely’s call was on Groves Lumber Company in
Dallas, Texas, where he had a conversation with its
manager, Mr. John D. Tinsley. The offer of proof led
the trial judge aptly to characterize the Tinsley testi-

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mony as something ‘‘less than earthshaking.’’ (Tr.
2521).

Nonetheless, the trial court admitted and then re-
fused to strike the Tinsley testimony over defense
objection that this unremarkable incident, occurring
over 13 years prior to trial, was irrelevant and im-
material to any issue of the case in that it did not tend
to prove the existance of a price-fixing conspiracy.
The Court of Appeals also ignored this prejudicial and
improper testimony.

The evidence whieh was introduced threugh Mr.
Tinsley certainly fell far short of what the prosecution
had promised in its opening statement and offer of
proof. It was shown only that Mr. Nicely, accompanied
hy one of National’s local sales representatives in
Dallas, visited the Groves Lumber Company among
other customers on March 22, 1962. For some vears
Groves had been a customer of National, but, prior to
Mr. Nicely's visit, had dropped National and had begun
to purchase from Texas Gypsum Company. CApp. p.
192a-193a). The Dallas-Fort Worth market was an im-
portant one for National, as it was for many of the
other manufacturers of gypsum wallboard. It was
therefore, entirely reasonable, as Mr. Tinsley readily
admitted, for National and its sales force to want the
(ireves account back again. Also, just prier to Mr.
Nicely’s visit the salesman who had formerly handled
the Groves account had left National’s employment,
thereby giving another reason for Mr. Nicely’s eall
to reestablish communication. (/d.).

The esseice of the prosecution's contention that this
normal business call was in some way predatory in-
volved a conversation Mr. Nicely had with Mr. Tinsley.

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Mr. Tinsley confirmed the substance of the conversa-
tion which oceurred between them. It was also de-
scribed in DX (Nicely)-1 (App. p. 179a-180a), a sworn
statement by Mr. Nicely dated August 24, 1964, only
two years after the conversation. Mr. Tinsley remem-
bered the use of three words—** policy of containment”
—which were alleged to have some predatory signifi-
cance. However, a review of Mr. Nicely 's statement and
his testimony makes clear that he was merely giving his
opinion on the reason why United States Gypsum
Company, a competitor of both National and Texas
Gypsum, would not willingly surrender its business.
(App. p. 124a-126a). It certainly could not have in-
volved any conspiracy including Mr. Nicely or National
Gypsum because, as paragraph (d)(i) of the exhibit
shows, National was not even meeting the competition
of Texas Gypsum at the time.

There was no evidence to refute Mr. Nicely’s sworn
testimony that he never discussed his call on Groves
Lumber Company with any competitor, before or after
the event. His uncontested testimony was that when
he went to Dallas he had no plans to call on Groves
Lumber and had no prior knowledge that Texas Gyp-
suum was selling in the area. When the Tinsley incident
is reduced to its essentials, it is nothing more than one
of several visits by Mr. Nicely, then a Central Division
Sales Manager—Eastern Area, seeking to regain a lost
National account. Its receipt in evidence was error, as
was its retention, since it proves no part of the alleged
conspiracy. (App. p. 120a-126a).

Objective analysis of the entire record requires the
conclusion that Mr. Nicely must be acquitted. The
record was ignored by the Court of Appeals even
though it was Petitioner Nicely’s request that as to him

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this was the only issue to be considered. Ordering
that he be sent back to the District Court for retrial
provides no remedy. As in any mass conspiracy trial,
a serious risk exists that stale or irrelevant evidence
as to Mr. Nicely might be considered by the jury as
bearing on the issue of his guilt or innocence. The
utter absence of evidence of Mr. Nicely’s guilt at the
first trial failed to protect him from this danger. A
retrial would merely subject him te a rehashing of
what is obvieusly not evidence of guilt—merely an im-
proper case of guilt by implication.

The question before this Court is very similar te that
which it faced in the case of Thompson v. City of
Louisville, 362 U.S. 199 (1960) : are the charges against
petitioners so totally devoid of evidentiary support as
to render the conviction unconstitutional? In Thomp-
sow this Court observed that the “[dJecision of this
question turns not on the sufficiency of the evidence,
but on whether this conviction rests upon any evidence
at all.”

As a matter of law, both Mr. Nicely and Mr. Brown
were entitled to be judged solely on the evidence ap-
plicable to them. See Blumenthal v. United States,
332 U.S. 539, 559 (1947); Kotteakos vy. United States,
328 U.S. 750 (1946); United States v. Marchisio, 344
F.2d 655, 666 (2d Cir. 1965). As to each petitioner,
the Constitution and laws of the United States require

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that the evidence be considered separately to deter-
mine first if the alleged conspiracy existed and, if so,
whether each petitioner was a knowing participant.
Here, whatever might be concluded with respect to
others involved in the trial, there is nothing whatsoever
to show that either Colon Brown or J. P. Nicely partici-
pated in any conspiracy of any kind. Under estab-
lished principles of law, as embodied in Rule 29 of the
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, the District
Court was thus required to order the entry of judgment
of acquittal. American Tobacco Co. v. United States,
328 U.S. 781, 787 (1946); Mortensen v. United States,
322 U.S. 369, 374 (1944) ; Parker v. United States, 378
F.2d 641 (1st Cir. 1967), cert. denied, 389 U.S. 842
(1967) ; Conaway v. United States, 349 F.2d 907 (8th
Cir. 1965), cert. denied, 382 U.S. 976 (1966); United
States v. Sawyer, 294 F.2d 24 (4th Cir. 1961), cert.
denied, 368 U.S. 916 (1961); United States v. Allard,
240 F.2d 840 (3d Cir. 1957), cert. denied, 353 U.S. 939
(1957); Curley v United States, 160 F.2d 229 (D.C.
Cir. 1947), cert. denied, 331 U.S. 837 (1947).

Colon Brown

The record in the District Court established that as
to Petitioner Brown evidence of participation im a
conspiracy for which he could be adjudged guilty is
non-existent. As specifically recognized by Judge Hun-
ter, author of the majority opinion below, the only
possible evidence relating to Colon Brown concerned
episodes predating the statutory period by almost three
years. Clearly very little in the voluminous record of
this case even had reference to Colon Brown. The
searce mentions of him were legally innocuous. No
witness testified as to any meetings, telephone conver-
sations or correspondence in which he engaged in any

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discussions with competitors about the pricing of gyp-
sum wallboard. His own sworn and unrefuted testi-
mony explains fully the legally valid purpose of any
vceasion on Which he met with officials of the other
companies engaged in the manufacture and sale of
gypsum wallboard. (App. p. 155a, ef seq.). The Govern-
ment made no consequential effort to produce witnesses

or doemmnents that might cast any doubt on these ex-
planations.

In one of the rare references to Colon Brown in his
opening statement, the prosecutor announced to the
jury: “you will learn from the evidence how [he], too,
attempted to, whenever and wherever possible to seek
agreement with (his) competitors, in fact, did effect
and obtain an agreement with (his! competitors, on
terms and conditions of sale."’ (App. p. 192a). No sueh
evidence was ever presented, Instead, Colon Brown was
convicted, not by evidence of illegal conduct on his part,
since none existed, but by errors which prejudiced all
of the defendants and by the trial court's failure to
honor Petitioner Brown's constitutional protection
against improper imputation or transference of guilt
in this multi-party conspiracy trial which, according
to the Government's contentions, invelved over 160
co-conspirators. Accordingly, the case against Colon
Brown consisted solely of the prosecutor's innuendo
and surmise which failed totally to meet even the most
minimum standards of probative evidence.

It was alleged that Petitioner Brown had conspira-
torial contacts with officials of another gypsum manu-
facturers. Not only is there no evidence of price-fixing
discussions, but there is complete and une: atroverted
evidence that the only and lawful purpose of these
contacts which occurred in 1965 was to settle under

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court deadline longstanding patent litigation involving
the potential loss to his company of millions of dollars
and settled through his efforts for under $200,000.

There was further innuendo with respect to a March
1966 change in credit terms. Rather than bcing indica-
tive of conspiracy, the record shows only that this
stale event was one in which Petitioner Brown acted in
the independent business interest of his own company
and is devoid of anything proving collusion with
competitors.

And, of course, there was price verification. Peti-
tioner Brown did not initiate, supervise or receive re-
ports of verification calls, and the practice was dis-
contimed under his Chairmanship as soon as the legal
question was raised by outside counsel after the Su-
preme Court’s decision in the Container case.

The only pertinent evidence with regard to the
charge that Colon Brown engaged in an antitrust con-
spiracy is his own sworn testimony categorically deny-
ing the allegation. No testimony and no documents
refute his denial. None indeed presents even minor
inconsistency with his testimony.

Perhaps it was this absence of evidence which caused
the jury foreman—prior to the time the trial court
coerced the verdict—to tell the court that in his opin-
ion the jury was hopelessly deadlocked: ‘‘We have
taken enough ballots now, and we have had enough
discussions, and the way it is divided is not going to

be settled by any document, any remembrance of tes-
timony.”’ (App. p. 172a-173a).

For reasons not expressed, the Third Circuit failed
to order the acquittal of Colon Brown despite the fatal
deficiency in the evidence. This failure is in direct con-

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flict with this Court’s holdng that ** [i]t is beyond ques-
tion, of course, that a conviction based on a record lack-
ing any relevant evidence as to a crucial element of the
offense charged .. . violate{s] due process.’’ Vachon v.
New Hampshire, 414 U.S, 478, 480 (1974), citing Har-
ris V. l nited States, 404 U.S. 1232, 1233 (1971). (Doug-
las, J.. in chambers); Thompson v. City of Lowsrille,
362 U.S. 199 (1960); Johnson v. Florida, 391 US. 596
(1968). The failure of the Third Circuit to exercise
its responsibility and protect Petitioner Colon Brown’s
due process rights deserves the attention of this Court.

J. P. Nicely

As a review of the trial record makes painfully
clear, there was as to Mr. Nicely no basis for any trial
on the charges or issues involved in this case. No evi-
dence relevant to the charge that he violated the anti-
trust iaws was presented in the nineteen weeks of the
trial. Apart from his own testimony and the proseeu-
tion’s improper introduction of testimony eoncerning
the routine sales call he made to John D. Tinslev of
Groves Lumber Company in March of 1962, the over
15,000 pages of transcript are devo.d of meaningful
references to him.

In the prosecution's opening statement at the trial
there were a few and highly general references to
Petitioner Nicely. However, the follow-up in the
prosecution’s proof was conspicuous by its absence.
At page 218 of the trial transcript, the prosecution
purported to link Mr. Nicely to a Gypsum Association
Task Force claimed to be ‘‘a cover-up so that these
defendants could get together and agree on terms and
conditions of sale.”’ Nothing in the evidence intro-
duced by the prosecution indicated that Mr. Nicely had

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anything whatsoever to do with any ‘Task Force,”
regardless of its nature, or indeed with any Gypsum
Association unit or activity.

The prosecution in its opening statement alleged
further: ‘‘You will learn from the evidence how { Mr.
Nicely], too, attempted to, whenever and wherever
possible, to seek agreement with [his] competitors, in
fact, did effect and obtain an agreement with [his]
competitors.’’ (App. p. 192a). There was no evidence
ever offered to deliver on the prosecutor’s pledge.

In its opening statement the prosecution also de-
scribed the December 1965 price increase as one of the
most important elements of its case. On this assertedly
key element, no evidence at all of any improper con-
duct by Mr. Nicely was introduced. Neither was any
evidence offered to place Mr. Nicely at meetings with
competitors or as a participant in telephone conversa-
tions with competitors relating to price changes. As to
him even ‘‘opportunity evidence’’ was lacking. More-
over, the decision for National to follow United States
Gypsum ’s lead in the 1965 price change was not Mr.
Nicely’s decision. Mr. Nicely’s only role was to carry
out the directions of his superior, Mr. Manske. (App.
p. 143a-153a).

Called as a witness in his own defense, Mr. Nicely
testified fully and freely as to the facts involved in
each of the few episodes for which evidence was intro-
duced concerning him. The extensive cross-examina-
tion served only to confirm the truth of his denials of
any complicity in conduct violative of the antitrust
laws. No rebuttal witnesses were called in an effort to
challenge this testimony. No witness and no document
presented by the prosecution was even relevant to the

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issue of Mr, Nicely’s guilt or innocence of the charges
brought against him. The record, therefore, demon-
strates that he has been wrongly accused,

Given this dearth of evidence, risk is inescapable
here that even the mere review of the proseeution’s
feeble efforts to connect Mr. Nicely with events on
which the alleged conspiracy is based may magnify the
‘‘ease’’ against him to a degree it does not deserve. It
should be remembered, therefore, that the matters dis-
cussed in this petition constitute the prosecution’s en-
tire case against J. P. Nicely—a case that flagrantly
fails to meet the criterion of proof of guilt beyond a
reasonable doubt.

Summary

As to both of these petitioners, Brown and Nicely,
there is no evidence of participation in a conspiracy to
violate antitrust laws. Moreover, the very few refer-
ences to each of them were for incidents far prior to
the statutory period. The statute of limitations which
is applicable to the offense with which Petitioners were
charged is found at 18 U.S.C. § 3282 and reads as
follows :

‘Except as otherwise expressly provided by jaw,
no person shall be prosecuted, tried, or punished
for any offense, not capital, unless the indictment
is found or the information is instituted within five
years next after such offense shall have been
committed.”

The Indictment was returned on December 27, 1973.
Thus the statutory period began to run on December 27,
1968. The record below, however, demonstrated con-

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clusively that for this statutory period there is an abso-
lute absence of any evidence even purporting to impli-
eate either Colon Brown or J. P. Nicely in any con-
spiracy to violate the antitrust laws. As this Court
observed in Toussie v. United States, 397 U.S. 112,
114-15 (1970):

“The purpose of a statute of limitations is to limit
exposure to criminal prosecution to a certain fixed
period of time following the occurrence of those
acts the legislature has decided to punish by crimi-
nal sanctions. Such a limitation is desi to pro-
tect individuals from having to defend themselves
against charges when the basic facts may have
become obscured by the of time and to
minimize the danger of punishment because
of acts in the far-distant Such a time limit
may also have the salutary effect of encouraging
law enforcement officials promptly to investigate
suspected criminal activity.”’

For the pertinent five years, not even so-called ‘‘op-
portunity evidence”’ exists to support the charge that
Petitioners conspired to fix prices and terms and con-
ditions of sale. Perhaps the best evidence of this comes
from the prosecution itself. A pleading signed by the
chief prosecutor and filed with the trial court was
represented as showing ‘‘Price-Fixing Discussions
Within the Statutory Period.’’ Neither that document
nor a supplement to it even mentioned the name of

either Colon Brown or J. J. Nicely. (App. p. 196a-
199a).

The key elements of the prosecution's case were all
before the statutory period. The December, 1965, price
change was three years prior to it. The March 1966
credit change was two and one-half years prior thereto.
Verification, even if it were improper, ended within

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the first month of the statutory period and Petitioner
Nicely was at least partially responsible for alerting
his Company to the questions raised by this Court's de-
cision in Container. And, of course, the most prejudi-
cial and improper pre-statutory period submission by
the prosecution related to the 1962 sales call on Tinsley
by Mr. Nicely which oceurred fully six and one-half
years prior to the statutory period.

The failure of the respondent to introduce any evi-
dence at trial connecting either of these petitioners
with participation during the statutory period in a
conspiracy charged under 15 U.S.C. § 1 required that
the Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit reverse the
judgment of the District Court and enter an order ac-
quitting the petitioners. The failure to do so requires
review by this Court.

2. By Effectively Perpetuating the Erroneously Retroactive
Application Given by the Trial Court to United States v.

Container Corp.. 393 U.S. 333 (1969), the Court of Appeals
Violated the Due Process Clause of the Constitution.

As the Court of Appeals noted, the central theme of
the Respondent's case was the issue of ‘‘ verification.”
In those instances when confirmation could not be ob-
tained in other ways an employee of one gypsum board
manufacturer would occasionally telephone a competi-
tor to determine the price at which the competitor was
offering gypsum board to a specific customer. Virtu-
ally every witness who testified during the trial about
the purposes of verification established overwhelmingly
that those purposes were fraud protection, Robinson-
Patman Act compliance, or both. Indeed, National
Gypsum Company had a compilation of legal guide-
lines cleared by outside counsel which specifically ap-
proved the practice of checking with competitors to

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verify a competitive situation which would justify, un-
der the Robinson-Patman Act, meeting a lower com-
petitive price or more favorable terms. (DX (NG)-77,
App. p. 182-191a).’

This policy was based wpon prior decisions of this
Court which approved of such exchanges among com-
petitors under certain controlling circumstances. In
Maple Flooring Mfrs. Ass’n vy. United States, 268 U.S.
563 (1925), the Sherman Act was held to permit the ex-
change of average cost data relating only to closed
transactions, despite an apparent stabilizing effeet on
price, where no intent to constrain individual competi-
tive activity was found. Further, the Court in Ce-
ment Mfrs. Protective Ass’n v. United States, 268
U.S. 588 (1925) approved the exchange of specific
price information concerning specific customers, de-
spite possible effects on prices, where the purpose of
the dissemination scheme was to prevent buyers from
defrauding sellers.

In mid-January 1969, after the Court's decision in
United States v. Container Corp., 393 U.S. 333 (1969).
National decided, as a matter of company policy and
on the advice of outside legal counsel, to discontinue

* Section 2(b) of the Robinson-Patman Act, 15 U.S.C. § 13(b)
permits a prima facie showing of price discrimination to be re-
butted or justified by the seller—

“by showing that his lower price or the furnishing of serv-
ices or facilities to any purchaser or purchasers was made in
good faith to meet an equally low price of a competitor, or
the services or facilities furnished by a competitor.’’

The Act emphasizes, however, that :

“the burden of rebutting the prima-facie case thus made by
showing justification shall be upon the person charged with
a violation of this section, and unless justification shall be
affirmatively shown, the Commission is authorized to issue an
order terminating the discrimination. . . ."’ (Emphasis added).

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any verification calls to competitors. The decision was
made because Container cast at least some doubt on
whether any verification of competitive discounts
should continue.

National apparently exercised good judgment in
terminating the practice. Some confusion did exist
particularly with the trial court below. Notwithstand-
ing the consistent finding by other Federal courts that
verifieation by competitors of customers’ claims of
more favorable competitive offers does not violate the
Sherman Act when done for the purpose of complying
with the Robinson-Patman Act or to protect against
eustomer fraud,’ the trial court below believed that
the Container decision in 1969 had changed the law
of Cement Manufacturers. It was the trial court’s
position that Container prohibited even good faith veri-
fication for Robinson-Patman purposes, at least, where
such verification might have had a stabilizing effect on
prices.

The trial court inaccurately instructed the jury that
‘defendants do not dispute the fact that they did ex-
change price and other competitive information among
themselves and with each other and with others.”’
(App. p. 170a). Not only did this instruction not differ-
entiate among defendants, it also did not identify the
periods for which various defendants acknowledged
that they had verified. It left the jury with the mis-
taken judicial assertion that Petitioners Colon Brown

* Belliston v. Teraco, Inc., 455 F.2d 175 (10th Cir. 1972), cert.
denied, 408 U.S. 928 (1972); Gray v. Shell Oil Co., 469 F.2d
742 (9th Cir. 1972), cert. denied, 412 U.S. 943 (1973); Webster v.
Sinclair Refining Co., 338 F.Supp. 248 (S.D.Ala. 1971); Wall
Products Co. vy. National Gypsum Co., 326 F.Supp. 295 (ND.
Cal. 1971).

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and J. P. Nicely had made sweeping admissions of
general price discussions with competitors. Both did
and do dispute that they at any time exchanged price
and other competitive information with competitors or
that they either authorized or participated in the ex-
change of price and other competitive information by
National’s employees with employees of other gypsum
producers. Moreover, there was no evidence within
or before the statutory period proving otherwise.

The trial court’s attention was called to the error of
its instruction, but it did not correct the situation.
(App. p. 171la). Thus the jury was allowed to measure
the defendants’ verification activities before Container
and before the statutory period by an erroneous stand-
ard which the judge drew from Container and errone-
ously applied retroactively. That was a fatal error

which the Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit did
not correct.

But even if the trial court had been correct in its
reading of Container, it would still have been erro: to
permit the jury to consider good faith verification
prior to Container as evidence of Sherman Act illegal-
ity." Such a reading of Container would constitute a
sharp departure from the previously established prin-
ciples of Maple Flooring Mfrs. Ass’n vy. United States,
268 U.S. 563 (1925) and Cement Mfrs. Protective
Ass'n Vv. United States, 268 U.S. 588 (1925). Retro-

* Both National and Andrew Watt submitted requests, which
(under the procedures established for the multi-party trial) ac-
erued to all defendants’ benefit, for an instruction that, under
the court's interpretation of Container, the jury could not con-
sider pre-Container verification for Robinson-Patman purposes to
be evidence of unlawful conduct. (National’s Supp. Req. Regard-
ing Retroactivity of Intervening Change of Law).

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active application of such a changed rule of law would
do violence to basic fairness and is prohibited under
the Due Process clause.

Such unexpected judicial enlargement, by decisional
interpretation or the expanded definition of a crime, if
retroactively applied would be unconstitutional.’ In
Bouie v. City of Columbia, 378 U.S. 347, 352-54 (1964),
the Supreme Court approved the prospective applica-
tion only of unanticipated judicial changes of law and
compared such changes to ex post facto laws:

“There can be no doubt that a deprivation of the
right of fair warning can result not only from
vague statutory language but also from an un-
foreseeable and retroactive judicial expansion of
narrow and precise statute language. As the
Court recognized in Pierce v. United States, 314
U.S. 306, 311, ‘judicial enlargement of a eriminal
Act by interpretation is at war with a fundamen-
tal concept of the common law that crimes must be
defined with appropriate definiteness.’ .. . Indeed,
an aatesmneall e judicial enlargement of a crim-
inal statute, applied retroactively, operates pre-
cisely like an ex post facto law, such as Art I, § 10,
of the Constitution forbids .... If a state legis-
lature is barred by the Ex Post Facto Clause
from passing such a law, it must follow that a
State Supreme Court is barred by the Due Proe-
ess clause from achieving precisely the same re-
sult by judicial construction.’’ °

* Importantly, Container itself was filed as a civil injunction
suit, not a criminal prosecution. This fact reinforces the inherent
unfairness of retroactive application, in this criminal case, of the
drastie change which the trial judge believed Container had effected
in the antitrust laws.

“It might be suggested that the Sherman

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The judge responded that he would allow the jury to con-
tinue until Friday, and at that time would rule on the mo-
tion. Sinee the verdicts were returned on Tuesday, the
following morning, the motion became moot.

On the preceding Friday, July 11, the fourth day of de-
liberation, the judge advised counsel that some jurors were
not feeling well and others were tired. He listed a number
of alternatives which might alleviate the jurors’ discom-
fort, including the option of sending them home for the
weekend. When the defense objected, the judge acquiesced,
although he recalled that this court had approved the prac-
tice of allowing jurors in a criminal case to return to their
home during deliberations. See United States v. Piancone,
506 F.2d 748 (3d Cir. 1974). In an effort to ease the
jurors’ task, the hours of deliberation were shortened but
the sequestration contined.

The coneurring opinion contends the jury had the mis-
taken impression that it was required to reach a verdict of
guilty or not guilty. But at no time did the trial judge so
charge or otherwise suggest this to the jury. Indeed, he
was well aware that such an instruction would be error.
After the Fioravanti charge was given on Sunday, the
sixth day of deliberation, the judge and counsel had the
following conversation :

| Derexse Counser]: ‘*That has oceurred after Your
Honor had on two prior occasions given the charge,
first of all in your original charge, then again yester-
day afternoon advising them as to their obligation to
reach a verdict.

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Tue Covrt: I would only point out that I did not

charge them as to their obligation to reach a verdict.

I at no time said they had a duty to reach a verdict.
I said they had a duty to deliberate toward reaching

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tee nt * think that would be error, and I did not do

[Derexse Counser]: I didn’t mean to indicate you
used those words. I used that as a short-hand way of
referring to the charge Your Honor had given and I
believe in all these instances it was similar to the Third
Circuit charge. ...’’

In concluding his remarks to the foreman on Mon-
day, the judge said: and =

**You tell them to deliberating and if the
come to a verdict. - Uiighade caaeay, on?

I do not read this as a direction to reach a verdict, but
rather that the jury should attempt to reach a verdict.
This was a perfectly proper admonition. Plainly the judge
anaes wt the Possibility that the jury could not come

a ve since i
A language of his remark was con-

In my view it would not have been proper for the judge
to have told the foreman at the private conference that
the jury had the option of reaching no verdict. The judge
had assured counsel in advance that he would give no in-
struction on the law during the conference and, indeed,
the defense lawyers were most anxious that there be no
repetition of the Fioravanti charge. It is also highly un-
likely that thereafter defense counsel would have asked
the court to tell the jury about its privilege to return no
verdict. For some time before the conference, all the law-
yers were aware that the possibility of a true deadlock
existed, but no request for additional charge along that
line had been made. Moreover, I would doubt that such an
instruction should be given. Experience demonstrates that
juries should be encouraged to reach verdicts and should
not be proffered an ‘‘easy way out” by a judicial sugges-

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tion that a deadlock is an equally satisfactory alternative.
It is the duty of the trial judge to determine when the jury
has ‘‘hung,’’ and then declare a mistrial. This procedure
adequately protects the right of the parties to a ‘‘no ver-
dict’’ trial.’

The reasoning of Jenkins v. United States, 380 U.S. 445
(1965), is not pertinent here. In that case, after only two
hours of deliberation, the trial judge stated to the jury in
part, ‘‘You have got to reach a decision in this case.’’ Jd.
at 446. The Solicitor General’s brief referred to the prin-
ciple that jurors may not be coerced into surrendering
views conscientiously held. Fioravanti also refers to that
principle, and the trial judge here cautioned the jury in
that vein on several occasions. United States v. Fioravanti,
412 F.2d 407 (3d cir.), cert. denied, 396 U.S. 837 (1969).
The record does not support the assertion that he imper-
missibly insisted on a verdict.

The decision to declare a mistrial must in large measure
be entrusted to the diseretion of the trial judge. He is ‘‘on
the scene’’ and is in a position to make an informed judg-
ment on the physical and emotional conditions of the jurors,
the difficulties involved in the issues submitted to them,
and the likelihood that a verdict will be reached. No reeord
can convey all the imponderable factors to an appellate
court, aor does its experience better qualify it in any but
the exceptional case to second-guess the trial judge. The
fact that the foreman thought no verdict could be reached

* The problem engendered by a charge to the jury advising of
its right to return ‘‘no verdiet’’ is similar to that in which a crim-
inal jury would be told that it may disregard the charge and
acquit the defendant in spite of the law. While a jury does have
such a right, the wisdom of such an instruction has been vigorously
debated. Sec the opinion of Judge Sobeloff in United States v.
Moylan, 417 F.2d 1002 (4th Cir. 1969) } 8.
(1970). Cf. United States v. Alper, 449 F.2d 1223, 1233 (3rd Cir.
1971), cert. denied, 405 U.S. 988 (1972).

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is not conclusive upon us or the trial judge. It is not un-
common that a verdict is returned after a jury has sin-
cerely thought it was deadlocked. The foreman was not
endowed with the experience of the trial judge, and it is
understandable that with so many complex issues to be
resolved, he became discouraged during the deliberations.°

This was a lengthy and vigorously contested case, where
the factual issues were close and the mass of exhibits for-
midable. It would seem inconceivable that any reasoned,
responsible verdict could have been reached without ex-
tended deliberations. Moreover, the expenditure of time,
resources and effort on the part of all concerned obligated
the trial judge to exert his best efforts to secure a verdict
if one could be reached without injustice or coercion. I am
convineed that he properly exercised his discretion. The
defendants’ contention to the contrary rings somewhat
hollow in my ears, particularly in view of their objection
to permitting the jurors to return home during che delibe-
rations, at least over the weekend.’

It has often been said that there are no perfect trials,

and the best that our system can provide is a fair one.
I believe that criterion was met here and, accordingly, I
would affirm.

* After the jury returned its verdicts, it was polled several times
and each juror unequivocally confirmed the findings of guilt.

"It is difficult to understand the defense’ reluctance about allow-
ing the jurors to return home since they had done so each evening
during the months when testimony was being received. If there
had been danger of damaging publicity or improper approaches
to the jury, it would not have sprung into existence simply because
deliberations had begun.

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Excerpts From Circuit Court Appendix

Henry C. Bear, Cross

but it is important to avoid any conversation with
competitors about our or their future prices and selling
policies because such conversations, even though there
is no attempt to or thought of reaching any agreement
or understanding, are often looked upon with sus-
picion, and our policy is to avoid the subject entirely.”

By Mr. Keck:

Q. Mr. Bear, who was MacLeish, Spray, Price &
Underwood?

A. Well, they were our legal counsel. This was the
name of the firm, with which you are presently associated,
at that time.

Q. Thank you.

You were asked a number of questions, yesterday and

[1648]

this morning, about price verification. Do you recall that?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. I wonder if you can tell us what are the basic rea-
sons why, in the limited instances in which you made calls,
you made price verification calls.

The Witness: The first reason was—and the basic
reason—was to avoid liability under the Robinson-
Patman Act requiring us to not discriminate in price
between competing buyers, and, in order to avoid
such discrimination, we had to assure ourselves that
any price that we might quote a given buyer, lower
than our regular published price, was made in good
faith to meet the equally low price of a competitor.

By Mr. Keck:

Q. Would it be fair to epitomize or summarize that
reason as compliance with the Robinson-Patman Act?

59a
Henry C. Bear, Cross

[1649]

A. That is what legal counsel has advised me, sir.
Q. Were there any other reasons, Mr. Bear?

The Witness: I believe there is one other basic
reason, Mr. Keck, and I believe that reason or that
problem arose in some situations where a sharp buyer
would attempt to play one manufacture against
another in order to obtain a lower price for himself.
He very often—quite plainly, in our opinion—was
lying to us. And we were advised by counsel that
we were entitled to protect ourselves against the
fraud or attempted fraud perpetrated on us by such
a dealer through the medium of price verification.

[1650]
By Mr. Keck:

Q. Well, then, could I summarize your second reason
as protecting against fraud from the lying buyer?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Were these the principal reasons for your price
verification calls, or were there others?

A. Those were the principal ones, sir.

[1709]

Q. You testified this morning, in answer to questions
of Mr. Thorson, that you had not made any verification
calls to or received any from a Mr. Huckleberry. Do you
recall that?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. You gave a reason why you had not. I show you
a document and ask you if that refreshes your recollection
as to whether there was still another reason why you had

60a
Rhyne Simpson, Jr., Direct

teriorating and my motive was to try to keep it from de-
teriorating any further. It was much lower in our market
than in other places in the United States and I didn’t think
it was right and I wanted to prevent the continued decline,
so our company could make money. We were losing
money and I wanted to prevent the price from sliding
down, so we could stay in business.

Q. How did this exchange of pricing information ac-
complish your objective?

A. It didn’t in the long run, no. In the short run, it
might have slowed the price decline down.

Q. What area are you speaking of?

A. I am speaking of my prime market, the Southwest,
Texas, Oklahoma and the states surrounding.

Q. Mr. Simpson, were you at all concerned about the
legality of these discussions that you were having with
your

[1897]

competitors?
A. Yes.

Q. Did you continue to engage in them, in any event?

A. I did, yes, sir.
Q. Why?

Mr. McSweeney: That question has been asked
and answered.

The Court: He just told you why.
Mr. Fricano: All right.

By Mr. Fricano:

Q. Did you have any other motives or any other
reason other than the business one you just advanced?

6la
Rhyne Simpson, Jr., Direct

A. Well, I had, at that point. I was concerned about
the legality of it, yes. I convinced myself that I had the
right to do it under the Robinson-Patman Act.

Q. Did you continue on thereafter, then?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you keep a record of conversations which you

had with your competitors over the period late 1964, "70
or "71?
A. No.

Q. Why not?
Mr. Bartlit: I object, irrelevant, Your Honor.
The Court: Well, let’s change that and
[1898]
see whether anybody told him not to. Just why he
didn’t, I agree, is irrelevant.
By Mr. Fricano:

Q. Did it ever occur to you that you should be mak-
ing a record of your conversations for Robinson-Patman

Act purposes?
Mr. Bartlit: Objection, irrelevant, Your Honor.
Mr. Fricano: If Your Honor please—
The Court: I think that is all right.

Mr. Warnke: I would further object. It calls for
a legal opinion and you have already addressed your-
self to that kind of question.

Mr. Fricano: If Your Honor please, on cross-

examination of Mr. Bear one legal opinion after an-
other was elicited.

The Court: I know, and I said I didn’t want any

62a
Robert Gimlin, Cross

Q. And if he answered yes, what did you do?

A. We would meet the price, generally speaking, to
the best of my recollection.

[3587]

Q. You made your own decision, whether you would
or would not meet the price. You didn’t meet it in every
instance, did you?

A. I have no recollection as to the specifics in that
regard, but we would make a decision after we—after we
verified it.

Q. Now, I would like to turn, Mr. Gimlin, to the pur-
pose of USG in engaging in the practice of price verifica-
tion, and I will read to you from yesterday's transcript at
page 3343.

Mr. Fricano asked, “What was the purpose of United
States Gypsum engaging in this practice, this understand-
ing of exchanging this kind of information we have been
talking about?”

And you answered: “So we wouldn't be over-com-
petitive on price.”

Do you recall that?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Now, I would like to ask you, Mr. Gimlin, why
you did not want to be over-competitive, and specifically
ask you if it is not a fact that one of the reasons that you
did not want to be over-competitive was so that you could
be in compliance with the Robinson-Patman Act.

A. Yes, sir.

Q. You were told by counsel, were you not, on many,
[3588]
many occasions, that it would be illegal, under the Robin-
son-Patman Act, generally speaking, to sell at a lower
price to a customer, unless you were meeting in good faith
the lower price of a competitor. Is that not correct?

63a
Robert Gimlin, Cross

A. Yes, sir. That would be correct.

64a
Robert Gimlin, Cross

A. Yes, sir. That is correct.

Q. Now, if you had not verified with the competitor
and if it were a situation where you had a substantial doubt
about the truthfulness of the report, such as in cases 4, 5,
and 6 on the chalk board, you doubted the truthfulness of
the claim, then were you not advised by counsel that it
would be improper to meet the lower price under the
Robinson-Patman Act?

A. Yes.

Q. And you did not meet it in those cases, did you?

A. No, sir.

Q. So that, if you got a negative response from your
competitor when you called him, that didn’t change any-
thing as far as what you did; did it?

A. No, sir.

Q. If you got an affirmative response from the com-
petitor when you called him, and he said, “Yes, the report
is true, I am selling this customer at $48,” then, that en-
abled you to make a decision whether you would or would
not meet that price. Is that not correct?

A. Yes, sir.

[3591]
By Mr. Hiering:

Q. And in many cases you did meet when you got
such a response, did you not?

A. To the best of my recollection, generally we did.

Q. So that when you got a negative response from
the competitor, he said that the claim was untrue and you
did not meet that lower price, to the extent that this had a
stabilizing effect on prices, was this not due to the fact that
you were following the directions of your counsel with
regard to compliance with the Robinson-Patman Act?

A. Yes, sir.

65a
Robert Cimlin, Cross

[3592]

Q. Now I would like to turn, Mr. Gimlin, to some
further questions about verification and the nature of
verification calls.

When you made a verification call, is it not a fact that
you made this call to get information on which you could
base your independent decision to meet or not to meet
the claimed lower price?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Is it not also a fact that when you made these
calls you asked your competitor whether the clair: made by
the customer was true with respect to the price at which
he had sold or was selling or had offered or was offering
the product? Is that not correct?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. You did not ask him, did you, whether he was
going to continue to sell at this price?

A. No, sir.

Q. And you didn’t ask him whether he intended to
increase the price?

A. No, sir.

Q. And you didn’t ask him whether he intended to
decrease the price?

A. No, sir.

Q. And you didn’t ask him anything else about what
he intended to do or would do in the future?

A. No, sir.

Q. Nor did you tell him what you intended to do?

A. No, sir.

Q. Or what you would do?

A. No, sir.

Q. By way of summary, when you made these calls
you wanted information that you could use to make your
own independent decision, is that not correct?

. 66a
K. A. McCaskill, Direct

(). How do you know that, sir?

A. Well, 1 dealt with many of them. I have been
told this. I know it for a fact.

Q. That they would tell each other that they were
ectting discounts notwithstanding the fact that the invoice
didn't show the discount?

A. Yes.

Q. Then why go through this business to begin with?

A. You are asking me to speculate again, sir.

Q. All right, sir. Isn't it a fact from time to time you
gave a discount to one customer of yours and didn’t give a
discount to another customer of yours who competed in
the same marketing area?

Mr. Mellott: I object to the form of the question
unless the time frame is tied down.

Mr. Fricano: Throughout the time period 1962
through June 1969.

The Witness: Should I answer it?
The Court: Sure.
{4380}

The Witness: Mr. Fricano, we have been
through the process, I believe, of exploring discounts
granted to customers of certain trade classification,
including job price protection. The verification prac-
tice—if you will—in my understanding and under the
guidance of cur Legal Department, was set forth to
establish as best we could the means to avoid viola-
tion of the Robinson-Patman Act.

If we gave a discount to a trade factor, if we
gave a certain price concession, whether it be in the
form of a discount or otherwise, to a certain trade
factor, which was different from another trade factor

67a
K. A. McCaskill, Direct

in this same place of trade, it was based upon the
process that our Legal Department had established

Q. So then...

A. And that meant that we were either in the process
of meeting competition according to our best judgment, or
we were making a business judgment without doing any
kind of verification practice.

Q. All right. Then is it fair to say, sir, that the an-
swer to my question is “yes” with that explanation that
you just gave?

A. With the explanation that I just gave, my answer
would be yes.

[4381]
Q. Now, did these same lawyers tell you to put phony

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68a
Oliver Eugene Burch, Direct

Q. Was he also at these meetings, these Gypsum Asso-
ciation meetings thatyou attended?

A. Some of them, sir.

Q. When you made a call, from time to time, and,
from time to time when there was an incoming call, did
either you or the other person refuse to give out the infor-
mation concerning the price?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Why?

A. I don't know why the other person would refuse,
but I know why I would.

[5268]

Q. Why did you refuse?

A. There were certain accounts that we felt were
extremely important to the interests of Georgia-Pacific,
that we felt was not in our best interest to discuss our
marketing policies.

Q. Would one of those accounts be M. Ecker and
Company in Chicago?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Were they a large volume account of Georgia-
Pacific?

A. At one time, they were; yes, sir.

[5273]

Q.° * ° If you wouldn't discuss certain accounts, why
did you check prices with competitors on other transac-
tions?

A. We were concerned with the ramifications of the
Robinson-Patman, for one reason. We wanted to be sure
that we were not being led on by a dealer who wasn't tell-
ing us the truth. So it became necessary at times, on rare

[5274]

A. I have discussed it with Mr. Wilson at times, yes.

Q. Did he help you, too?
. Yes, sir.

A. Yes,

Q. Now you have testified that you wanted to make

sure that the customer was telling you the truth, is that
?

70a
Arnold L. E. Meyer, Cross

Q. Do you recall making any price verification call
or receiving any price verification call in the year 1969?

A. Well, I don’t recall any specifics. It is very pos-
sible in the early part of the year that I did, because

[5532]

of the habit of people calling me. I wouldn't be originat-
ing them, because other people had that responsibility.
But others might call me, not knowing that I was on a
special assignment.

Q. You say “might.” Do you recall?

A. No, I do not.

Q. And since you left, your official leaving at the
end of the year, even though you hadn't been there physi-
cally for some time, the end of ‘69, from that period on
you haven't been involved in the gypsum business; have
you?

A. Not in any way at all.

Q. Mr. Meyer, with respect to price verification prac-
tice where you made calls to verify a price or other com-
petitive practice with a competitor, did you do that in
the circumstance where you had received a report from
the Georgia-Pacific organization of a lower price or a
competitive condition out in the marketplace?

A. That is right. That is where those things orig-
inated.

Q. And the information came to you from Georgia-
Pacific employees who had gotten it from customers?

A. Correct.

Q. And the purpose of the customer advising of the
lower price was so that that customer could get a lower
price?

A. From us, to meet a competitive price.

Q. Yes.

Tla
Arnold L. E. Meyer, Cross

[5533]

A. That he allegedly received from someone else.

* Q. What I mean is: The customer would advise the
Georgia-Pacific individual of a lower price of a competitor
and requested Georgia-Pacific to give a lower price?

A. That's right.

Q. And as a result of that request by the customer
coming to you through the organization, you sometimes
made a verification call with a competitor?

oo

Q.

to verify the existence of a lower offered price or other

practice that had been made or offered before the time

that you made your telephone call to the competitor to
es.

made that verification call to find out

By Mr. McSweeney:

Q. Mr. Meyer, I believe in answer to Mr. Fricano you
said that you understood that Celotex directed the prices
of Big Horn Gypsum. I take it that you do not know that
as a fact, do you?

A. I know it as a fact from having been told so by
Mr. Miller. '

Q. Mr. Miller of Celotex told you that?

A. That is correct.

Q. When did he tell you that?

72a
Robert Sikes, Cross

[5645]

correct.
Q. Was there also a significant percentage of them
that was incorrect?

Mr. Fricano: Objection.

The Court: He is entitled. It is cross-examina-
tion.
Go ahead.

The Witness: That could be.

By Mr. Mallin:

Q. Now, at the time that you were with Georgia-
Pacific, did you understand that it was the policy of
Georgia-Pacific to attempt to avoid price discrimination
to customers located in the same trading area?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And did you in your job function, to the best of
your ability, attempt to carry out that policy of nondis-
crimination?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And did you understand that it was the policy of
Georgia-Pacific, when faced with a lower price being of-
fered by a competitor, to attempt to meet that competitive
price but not to beat it?

A. That is correct, sir.

(Proceed to next page—no loss of context. )
[5646]

Q. So that you understood those to be company poli-
cies during the time you were with Georgia-Pacific?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And did you understand that those twin policies
of non-discrimination in the trading area and meeting but
not beating competition were complementary policies?

73a
Robert Sikes, Cross

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And did you understand that price verification
calls was one method that was used in order to implement
those twin policies of non-discrimination in the trading
area and meeting but not beating competition?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Now, when you received a report from Georgia-
Pacific's own sales organization of a lower price in a
particular area, was it sometimes true that, based upon
other information received from Georgia-Pacific’s own
sales organization, that you could decide to meet that
price by Georgia-Pacific?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And you could make that decision on those occa-
sions without making a price verification?

A. That's correct.

Q. And, on other occasions, you made the price veri-
fication call to ascertain what that truth was?

A. Yes, sir.

[5647]

Q. Now, in a case where there was a report from the
sales organization of Georgia-Pacific that indicated there
was a lower price, was it sometimes true that you didn’t
believe that report?

A. That's correct.

Q. And did you understand—strike that. And, in the
case where you didn’t believe the report, you would not
meet the lower price?

A. That's correct.

Q. Now, if, in that case where there was a report
from the sales organization, which you didn’t believe, and
you made a vertification call and found out that the report
was, in fact, true, then you were in the position to meet
that lower price?

T4a
Robert Sikes, Cross

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And so the making of the price verification call,
in those circumstances, made it possible for Georgia-
Pacific to put that lower price into the marketplace?

A. That is correct, sir.

Q. Incidentally, Mr. Sikes, did you attend Gypsum
Association meetings?

A. No, sir.

Q. During the time you were with Georgia-Pacific,
did anyone instruct you not to keep a record of price
verification calls?

[5648]

A. Never had any such instructions.

Q. And the notes—but it was a fact, on various
papers, some of which have been used by the Government,
you sometimes made notes about price verification calls?

A. That is correct.

Q. And sometimes, in your notes, you used shorthand
symbols to make those notes?

A. Just the 1, 2, 3 code.

Q. Weljglid you write anything out in the notes in
longhand, or did you use abbreviations or any other kind
of symbols, like people do when they are making notes?

A. Oh, initials, made it brief.

Q. Were you able to read everybody else’s short-
hand notes made in the office on whatever subject——

Mr. Fricano: Objection, outside the scope of di-
rect examination.

The Court: I haven't heard any testimony about
shorthand. I don't know what we are getting at here.

Mr. Mallin: Well, there was questioning, Your
. Honor, about the way he kept notes and whether

75a
Kenneth Atwell, Direct

A. To my knowledge he didn’t do it, no.
[5727]

Q. Well, is that your present knowledge, too?

A. My present knowledge of course, since the docu-
ment was brought up late in ’69 stating that I had written
to them, that there was some reason for me to write the
document, that I don’t really know. And that was after
price verification had stopped on my part.

Q. But not on theirs?

A. I don’t know anything about their part.

Q. Why did you write them the document?

A. I wished I knew that. I don’t know.

Q. Were you in here when Mr. Sikes was testifying?

A. Yes, I was.

Q. Did you hear Mr. Sikes testify that he engaged in
the verification p-actice with Mr. Earl Kroth?

A. I heard that.

Mr. Fricano: If Your Honor please, I think perhaps
one of the jurors might wish a recess.

The Court: Well, I am not going to ask, but we
will take a ten-minute recess.
(Recess taken.)
The Court: Proceed.
By Mr. Fricano:

Q. Mr. Atwell, who then at National Gypsum author-
— + “cece described it?
J

A. Mr. Brown.
[5828]
Q. Who else?

A. Well, he is the only one that authorized me.
Q. Did Mr. Nicely authorize you?

Tha
Kenneth Atwell, Direct

A. Well, I was doing it at the time Mr. Nicely became
my superior, and no one said to stop.

Q. How about Mr. Colon Brown?

A. I never talked to Mr. Colon Brown about this at all
that I know.

Q. Mr. Atwell...

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Didn't you from time to time discuss a specific price
verification with a competitor when Mr. Brown was stand-
ing right there?

A. Never to my knowledge, no, sir.

Q. Did Mr. Brown, Colon Brown now, was he aware
of the fact that you were engaging in this practice?

A. Well, I didn’t talk to him about it, but I think he
was, yes.

Q. Now, with respect to job price protection itself.

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Did you from time to time check with your com-
petitors on job price protection?

A. Even though I don’t recall it, there is a possibility
I did, yes, sir.

Q. And at what time, times, did job price protection

[5729] -

become more critical?

A. With National, job price protection became more
critical at the time of a price increase.

Q. Would that be between the time of an announce-
ment and the time of the effective date?

A. Generally it would be between the time of our an-
nouncement and our effective date, yes, sir.

Q. Is it fair to say that if there is job price protection

in the market, enough of it . . .
A. Yes.

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Kenneth Atwell, Direct

[5835]

Q. All right, sir. Now, it refers, in paragraph 8, to
“our new policy.” Do you see that, paragraph 8?

A. Yes, it does. Yes.

Q. All right, sir. When was that new policy for-
mulated?

A. I don’t know that the policy was even formed at
that time. This was—this plan of action was a result of a
meeting we had, saying what we were going to do after
we heard that USG had announced a price increase in the
field, and this, to me, means when we decide, and I don’t
know when this was made. We may have made a decision
by then, but, at any rate, if and when we decided, we would
send that new policy to the people, the states.

Q. Well, isn’t it fair to say, Mr. Atwell, that the new
policy referred to there had to be formulated prior to
November 17, 1965?

A. No. No.

Q. Was that new policy discussed on November 17,
1965?

A. Yes, it was.

Q. With whom?

A. A meeting that we had with Mr. John Brown and
Mr. Jay Nicely and Mr. Manske.

Q. And what was the new policy?

A. The policy was we were going to try to find out
what USG did, and we were going to follow it just as
closely

[5836]

as we could, and that would be our policy, and we would
let our dealers know it and our sales people know it and
all.

Q. So you were going to prepare a letter, Mr. Brown
was going to help, and Mr. Nicely, and you were going to

78a
Kenneth Aiwet, Direct

send it to all your dealers throughout the country, saying
you were going to be just like USG; is that right?

A. I wouldn't say it in those words, no, but that would
be the intent. We were going to follow it, whatever we
found it to be, we were going to follow it.

Q. Have you, in the past, told your dealers you
wanted to be just like USG?

A. I don’t think we ever did.

Q. Well, that doesn’t mean that, then, does it?

A. I wouldn't send a bulletin out and say we were
going to be like USG or anyone else. It would be a policy
that would recite things that we want to have done, and it
would have been, and they were, at that time.

This is just about the same as those we picked up.

Q. Did all the events, as depicted on GX 500 actually
occur on the dates specified?

A. Oh, you want me to go down item for item, sir?

Q. Well, if you can glance at it, sir——

A. Well, on November the 17th, we knew there was a
letter out. We had had a call from one of our people, and
we were going to procure that from our man who had

called in,
[5837 |

and that we did not have on the 17th, no—and, when the
man called in on the second item, he also told us that he
had a copy of a USG letter of November 17, too, the sales
force, and we told him to send that in, and we were going
—this is what we meant by procuring that, getting that into
the Buffalo office.

On the 19th, “Procure USG price list for all zones,”
this was living in hope. We were going to go out to our
people and tell them of what we heard and tell them to
pick up what they could and send it in to us, and we had

79a
Kenneth Atwell, Direct

hoped, within a few days, we could get all the information
we needed.

Q. And, ultimately, in that connection, you had to
call United States Gypsum directly; did you not?

A. I don't recall whether I did or not.

Q. Didn't you get what is called a mint set of USC
price sheets about an inch thick?

A. We~yes. Yes.

Q. And were these not United States Gypsum prices,
for the United States Gypsum products in every zone?

A. I do know that it was a thick file, but I can’t testify
it was for every zone. I don't know that.

Q. All right, sir. Proceed.

A. Then, it appears here, and now—except for jump-
ing down to the 24th, I would be testifying from the docu-
ment, because my memory doesn’t serve me that well.

[5838 }

By Mr. Fricano:

Q. All right, sir.

Now did you know or were you aware, I should say,
that originally United States Gypsum intended to announce
its price increase not on November 17, but on November
15?

A. This is the first time I ever heard that.

Q. All right.

Do you know whether or not they intended to an-
nounce it in the Wall Street Journal, as you said about
your decrease yesterday?

A. The first time I knew was when our man called
from Chicago.

Q. What——

A. Mr. Wright.

Q. Did Mr. Wright tell anybody where he got that
information?

80a
Kenneth Atwell, Cross

A. Oh, yeah, competitive invoices or believing the
customer or hy = pate

Q. How did you verify the report the customer made

was true, cept by aig Your competion What other
ies have
A. eet eaten teen ent

did then, to send us whatever documentation he could get
from the field and those would be competitive invoices,
or to get a customer to sign these RTMC’s or requests to
meet competition forms or get a letter from a customer.
And in some cases we just believed the customer, because
we have never—we have always found him to be trust-
worthy.

Q. Did you ever have occasion to—you, Mr. Atwell,
when you were passing on one of these requests to meet
competition, did you ever have occasion to check back
with your field sales people who had reported the situa-
tion to find out whether they could assure you of its re-
liability or accuracy?

A. You mean after I got a request from them, did
I contact them again?

Q. Yes.

A. Oh, yes. 1 was on the phone with them regularly,
yes.

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Q. When you called back to them, did you always
make notes of your conversations with them?

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approved, those that came to you, you have to sign to
indicate your approval or not, I guess, didn’t you?

A. Well, if I approved it, I signed it. And I think
in most of the cases where we didn’t approve it, we wrote

reject on the face of the document, as I recall.

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Kenneth Alweti, Cross

Q. Now, in those instances when you did call a com-
petitor——

The mike is still working, too.
Yes, it is. It doesn’t have a sore throat, though.

The Court: Do you have a sore throat?

The Witness: Yes, I do, but I think I am going
to make it all right.
By Mr. DeLone:

Q. In those instances where you did call a competitor
out of, say, in 1965, out of these 40,000 requests, where

A.
Q.
A. I'm all right.
y

do
we had a report of a low price and I didn't do
best to try to make sure that that report was
ve that and didn’t give it to the rest of my
would be discriminating against my other

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Discussion

Q. And wasn’t your understanding—was it your un-
derstanding, whether or not it was right, that it would
be unlawful to so discriminate against other customers?

A. Yes, it was.

Q. Have you been advised about any statute or laws
that concern this subject?
A. Yes.

Mr. Fricano: Objection, Your Honor.
The Court: The basis?
Mr. Fricano: He is asking a layman
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about the law now.

Mr. DeLone: I didn't ask him the content of
the law. I asked if he had been advised about the
law.

The Court: You can answer.

The Witness: Yes, sir. I was told about the
Robinson-Patman Act.

[6038]

The Court: Yes. May I call your attention, Mr.
DeLone, though, to what Exhibit 15 says? The first
paragraph is not—doesn't give me any trouble, then,
but it refers to the conference with the lawyers. Then,

“they quoted the section of the Robinson-Patman Act
which upholds our theory. However, they brought to
our attention, also, a recent decision by the United
States Circuit Court and the only one squarely decid-
ing the precise issue; that is, the Sunshine Biscuit case.
Then, they go on to say that the FTC argued Section

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Kenneth Atwett, Cross

it was, Jay Nicely called me at some later time. Now, it
may have been the same date, or it may have been the
next day. The reason I think it was near the time I talked
to counsel is, when Jay called me from out of town, he
said he had just read something about this in the Wall
Street Journal.

Q. And what was the gist of your discussion with
Mr. Nicely, as best you recall it?

A. Well, Jay talked about the article, and he said
that—

Q. The article in the Wall Street Journal?

A. In the Wall Street Journal; and he said that he
thought that it would be advisable for us to cease and
desist, and I told him I had already talked to counsel and
already made the decision.

Q. Now—

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The Court: Cease and desist from what?
The Witness: Well, stop making verification calls.

By Mr. DeLone:

Q. Now, except for the credit—you weren't responsible
for the Credit Department and its activities; were you?

A. No.

Q. And that wasn’t under your decision?

A. No, it wasn't.

Q. I show you also Government Exhibit 25. Do you
have that there? Maybe I didn’t ask for that yet.

A. I don’t have it.

Q. Sorry.

What is that exhibit, Mr. Atwell?

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Kenneth Atwell, Cross

A. This is a letter I wrote to Mr. Hayes and Mr. Nicely
on December 12, 1969, and the subject is “Price Verifica-
tion.”

Mr. DeLone: Again, this is marked a Government
exhibit. I will offer it.

Mr. Fricano: I will offer it, Your Honor.

Mr. DeLone: If Mr. Fricano wants to offer it, that
is fine.

The Court: It is admitted.

Government Exhibit No. 23 was received in evi-

dence.

Mr. DeLone: This document is dated December
12, 1969, from Mr. Atwell, subject, “Price

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Verification,” directed to J. P. Hayes, Vice President,
J. P. Nicely, Vice President, reads as follows:

“Dear Jack and Jay:

“I believe I did advise you men of the follow-
ing action taken by me early this year to stop price
verification calls in the building products division
of our company. I am not sure Colon was ever
made aware of this decision. As chief executive of
our company, I think he should have this infor-

mation. If you agree, please route the extra copy
to Colon.

“As you know, I have been in constant touch
with outside counsel for several years regarding
antitrust regulations. Very early this year, coun-

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Kenneth Atwell, Cross

sel advised me of the decisions in the Container
case and emphasized the telephone price verifica-
tion aspect of that case Even though this activity
in the Container case is significantly unlike that
which was infrequently used by us, we were ad-
vised that until clarification of the Container de-
cision, “serious consideration should immediately
be given to complete cessation of verification
calls.” Based on this counseling, and only as a re-
sult of this counseling, I have made no verification
calls since some time in January, 1969.

“We, at National Gypsum Company, know
we did not violate our internal antitrust policies
nor the laws

of the land as regard to antitrust. We did not dis-
cuss future prices, policies, terms or conditions of
sale with any competitor, nor did we enter into,
or discuss, any a ts on any of these items,
nor on distribution, sharing of markets, selection
of customers, etc. We simply answered specific
inquiries with a yes or no and only inquired about
specific reports received from our sales force of

tive activity. I am knowledgeable of the
above because I believe I am the only one who
made any of the occasional verification calls by
our building products division in many years.

“However, making the above decision doesn’t
necessarily lead me to believe we have no other
concern. To the contrary, I continue to be con-
cerned about le inadvertent violations of the
Robinson-Patman Act. We have done our best in
good faith to make our decisions in meeting com-
petitive situations on whatever evidence was
available. There may have been cases where we

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Kenneth Atwell, Cross

were deceived by customers, and as a result, met
false competitive reports. This leaves a question
in my mind as to whether or not we have exer-
cised every precaution legally obtainable. This
kind of decision making will be a risk that, in
our division, we will continue to take until we

get further clarification of the legality of tele-

phone price verification calls where the purposes
thereof are to avoid fraud and to obey the

federal laws against price discrimination among
customers.

“K. H. Atwell”
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The Court: What is the date of that?
Mr. DeLone: December 12, 1969.
By Mr. DeLone:

Q. Mr. Atwell, might I ask you, this makes mention of
Colon and refers to Colon as chief executive officer. I take
it that is Colon Brown?

A. Yes, it is.

Q. Do you recall why you wrote, what occasion you
are writing this letter to Mr. Hayes and Mr. Nicely in De-
cember, 1969?

A. Well—

Q. December 12, 1969, to be precise.

A. Mr. Colon Brown and Mr. Jack Hayes were going
to be called as witnesses in some litigation and although I
don't ever recall telling Mr. Colon Brown about price veri-
fication, the complaint in 1967 that led to this litigation
had as one of its items price verification. So it was, I as-
sumed, of course, since it was a complaint which Mr. Colon
Brown knew about the price verification, but I didn’t know

how much he knew, if anything, about us stopping verif-
cation.

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Earl Kroth, Direct

A. If I did, 1 don’t recall. 1 don’t recall the name, or I
don't really recall specifically doing it, no.

Q. When you mado these contacts with competiians,
did you get answers to your questions?

A. In most cases.

Q. What would you do with the information after you
received it? Would you take it back to Mr. Atwell or Mr.
John Brown, or Mr. Nicely, or whoever made the request
that you check it out?

A. In some cases, yes. And in some cases, no. In
some cases when I was requested to find out if the price
exsited, I was told that if that competitor does have that
price in there, that I was authorized to meet that price

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for our own customer. And in that case then I wouldn't
have to go back to my superior.

In other cases, yes, I had to carry the information back.
And then we possibly talked about it to make a determina-
tion. “Is there any advantage to meeting this price?”
“Should we pass up the order?” Or, “Do we meet the price

and hopefully get an order?”
Q. What was your in contacting the com-
petitor if you weren't sure or not you were going

to meet the to begin with?

A. Well, it is pretty hard to run a business unless you
know what is going on in the market. And even if you
might not meet the price, maybe you can't afford to meet
the lower price. It still—-Maybe it is a matter of ego, but
you sure would like to know what is going on in the market
as far as price is concenred.

Q. Did you make any notes of these contacts with
competitors?

A. No, I didn't.

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Earl Kroth, Direct

Q. Do you know whether or not Mr. Colon Brown
knew of these contacts by yourself and Mr. Atwell, and
others in National Gypsum Company with competitors?

A. He knew that Mr. Atwell was calling competitors.
I am not sure that he knew that I was making calls.

Q. How do you know—Excuse me.

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A. I am not sure that they knew that anybody else

was making calls.

Q. How do you know that he knew Mr. Atwell was
making calls to competitors?

A. On a few occasions, at least a few occasions, I
was present when Mr. Atwell advised Mr. Brown—Mr.
Colon Brown that is,—that he had contacted a certain com-
petitor and contirmed that a certain discount or a certain
price was in at a certain dealer or in a certain market or
what have you.

Q. This was in your presence?

A. Yes, it was.

Q. Was anyone else present on these occasions?

A. I believe in a few cases there may have been other
people present, but I don’t recall who they were.

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Q. Do you know what time period these occasions

took place in?

A. It was in the later sixties, but I can’t be real specific
as to when they—when they happened. I could pin it down
to the point of somewhere in about late '66, early '67,
possibly, when they were still not meeting competition,
when they were still not lowering our price to be competi-
tive in the market.

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Re-Dmect EXAMINATION.
By Mr. Schmoll:

Q. Mr. Kroth, you say you stopped making these con-
tacts with competitors in mid-January of 1969. Why did
you stop?

A. The company’s legal counsel advised us, advised
the management of the company that there had been some
court decision—which I have heard referred to as the Con-
tainer Case—where the judge had ruled that it either was
illegal, or there was some question concerning the legality
of price verification. And, until further clarification, we
were told to cease and desist.

Q. Who told you this?

A. I was either told by Mr. Atwell directly or in con-
junction with one of the attorneys.

Q. Do you know whether or not anyone else at
National Gypsum was told that they should stop?

A. To my knowledge, all of the people in our own
department who in any way would be involved with this
type of procedure were informed.

Q. Do you know whether or not those instructions
were followed?

A. To the best of my knowledge they were, except
in one case that I know of where apparently the party
became confused.

Q. What case was that?

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A. The case of Mr. Webster.
Q. Did Mr. Webster make calls after these instruc-
tions were issued, receive calls?

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O. Max Montgomery, Cross

Mr. DeLone: It was about the time of his conver-
sations with Mr. Atwell, and I submit, sir, that what I
read shows his vagueness of recollection.

The Court: Now, wait a minute.
Mr. DeLone: Well, in light of—
The Court: Wait a minute.

Mr. DeLone: Very well.

The Court: Let's not either one do that. When
you spoke about these conversations, were you talking
about area prices, or were you talking about conversa-
tions concerning a specific—a request to verify price on
a particular transaction? I am talking about the ones
as late as 1967.

The Witness: Well, it is difficult to be specific.

The Court: Was it both? |
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The Witness: Yes.

The Court: All right. Go ahead.

The Witness: To the best of my recollection, both.

[6314]

By Mr. Keck:

Q. You have been asked certain questions about
verification, and 1 understood you to say, did you not,
that you had not verified with anyone from United States
Gypsum Company?

A. That is correct.

Q. At any time?

A. That is correct.

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O. Max Montgomery, Cross

Q. Would you please describe simply for me the
practice of verification as you practiced it, as you have
testified here this morning? What prompted you to make
a verification call?

The Court: You mean—he said he didn’t do it
with United States Gypsum.

Mr. Keck: He didn’t do it with my clients, but
he said he did do it with some others.

The Court: All right.

The Witness: Uncertainty as to the validity of the
competition, for one thing.
By Mr. Keck:
Q. Did you have a way of determining the existence
of lower competitive prices within your company?
A. Well, we would ask to see invoices of competitive

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companies to verify whether or not they were selling at
below our prices or not. We have a field sales force chat
we depend on heavily to keep us advised as to what the
competitive situation is in the market.

Q. And how do they keep you advised?

A. Through reports and telephone conversations; very
few written reports.

Q. Well, then, do I understand that, occasionally, you
would verify the existence of the lower competitive price
by a contact with a competitor?

A. That is correct.

Q. How did you determine which ones to verify and
which ones not to verify?

A. It was just a matter of judgment as to the feel
we had for the particular account, whether or not we were

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being told the truth as to what the competitive situation
was or not.

Q. The truth by whom?

A. By the dealer.

Q. The customer ?

A. To our—that’s right, the customer, te our sales-
man or direct to me.

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By Mr. Mellott:

Q. Mr. Montgomery, my name is Cloyd Mellott. I
represent Georgia-Pacific. Would you look at the two
pages of 1668-A, Government Exhibit 1668-A and tell me,
please, whether the names of any Georgia-Pacific em-
ployees appear on your list of telephone numbers.

A. No, they do not.

Q. All right, sir.

If I understand your direct testimony correctly,

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the only person at Georgia-Pacific that you had any
verification calls with was Gene Burch.

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And I believe—excuse me.

A. Yes, sir, that is correct.

Q. And I believe you said you had two, three or four,
is that correct?

A. That is correct.

Q. Isn't it a fact that each of those calls was orig-
inated by you?

A. That is correct.

Q. Mr. Burch never called you?

A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. And if it is approved, then what happens?

A. Then it becomes the basis for the Accounting De-
partment to invoice at that lower price or to adjust to
that lower price.

Q. And what is the Accounting Department authority
for that purpose?

A. The P/A.

Q. And that’s the pink document on the right; is

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that correct?

A. That's correct.

Q. Have you ever had any advice from your lawyers
with respect to compliance with the Robinson-Patman
Act?

Mr. Hiering: I am not asking him for a legal con-
clusion, Your Honor. I am just asking him whether
he had any advice from lawyers with respect to com-
pliance with the Robinson-Patman Act.

The Court: You can answer it yes or no, but you
can’t ask him what the advice is.

The Witness: Yes.

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James B. Galvin, Direct

By Mr. Hiering:

Q. On more than one occasion?

A. Yes.

Q. And were there occasions when you asked specific
advice from your lawyers with regard to approval of price
adjustments?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, were there instances when the information
regarding the competitive situation, as contained on the
green sheets, raised doubts in your mind as to the accuracy
or the truthfulness of the report of the competitive situa-
tion?

A. Yes.

Q. And what did you do in those instances?

A. The usual procedure is to send the file back to
the initiating, or back to the responsible sales manager,
and tell him that he needs to get additional information
or you can’t approve that particular price recommenda-
tion.

The Court: The reason I ruled that he couldn't
ask what the advice was is this:

You ask a lawyer for advice—and I like to think
judges are still lawyers. If you ask a lawyer for ad-
vice—and I don’t mean to derogate the advice—and he
gives it to you. And, by following his advice you
violate the law, it is still a violation of the law. That
doesn’t make it okay just because a lawyer advised
you to do it. That's why what the advice was may be
relevant in some situations. But, in the matter that
we have before us today, I don’t think it is.

By Mr. Hiering:
Q. Now, were there ever any instances when you
doubted the accuracy or the truthfulness of the claim of

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James B. Galvin, Direct

the lower competitive price made by the customer where
you chock Go cssumnay of Ghat cate by calling « compet
A. Yes.
Q. And can you give us some approximation of how
many instances?

Pa... They were very few. I would estimate not more

ten, and probably less.
rnin is poet

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A. I don’t specifically recall the last date on which ~
I made such a call.

Q. Approximately when would it have been?

A. Well, it would have been—No later than 1968, and
possibly earlier than that.

Q. Why did you stop making these calls?

A. Well, the reason I stopped making the calls was
when I—as the year 1967 progressed, the market became
increasingly more competitive, and the field intelligence
we were receiving started to flow in with increasing fre-
quency, and that, by 1968, it was—there was a consider-
able number of green sheet forms flowing in every week,
maybe every day, so that it—in my mind, by that time,
because of the very competitive nature of the market,
I had all the information at hand that I needed to deal

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John Patrick Hayes, Direct

Q. Now, you knew the practice was goiug on yourself?

A. Yes.

Q. And as far as you were concerned, what was the
reason for verifying?

A. Well, the main reason was that—there were two
reasons. One was to avoid conflict with the Robinson-
Patman Act, which we were very conscious about a
violation of the Robinson-Patman Act which was price
discrimination which would have been involved if we were
discriminating in price among our customers in the same
competing area. And the second reason was that on some
occasions our customers didn’t tell us the truth, and we
were attempting to find out what actually was the truth.

Q. Now, in this period in 1968, from February, I think
it was, when you were authorized to meet competitive situ-
ations, did you verify with competitors in every instance
when you had a report up from the field?

A. You mean me?

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Q. You or persons working under you whom you au-
thorized?

A. No, 1 did not. And, certainly, not in every instance.
That was a relatively rare thing.

Q. And in what situations, so far as you know, were
verification calls made; when, or what reason, what infre-
quent occasions? You indicated it wasn't always done.
Why was it done sometimes and not others?

A. Well, you have a circumstance where something
entirely new and different hits you that you have not had
reported from the field before and which you do not have
documentary evidence of. And, on occasion, as I men-
tioned, where there is reason to believe that the custemer
may not be telling the truth.

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John Patrick Hayes, Direct

Q. And were you aware that persons in your company
to similar calls from your competitors in this
period from 1965 to 1969?

A. Yes, I was.
Q. Did you make any verification calls yourself?
No.

>

Q. Do you have there Government Exhibit 25?

A. Yes, I do.

Q. That is a document that is already in evidence,
dated December 12, 1969, from Mr. Atwell to you and to
Mr. Nicely. And in it he refers to the fact that as a
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result of advice of counsel he had stopped—no verification
had been made after some time in January of 1969. The
letter though is dated December 12, 1969.

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Did you receive that letter?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. Did you take any action as a result of it?

A. Yes. I suggested to the people that issued our
policies and our general policy book that the section on
antitrust compliance should be updated to include our Jan-
uary decision.

Q. Your January, 1969, decision?

A. Yes.
Q. And was your ng suggestion carried out?
A. Yes, it was. “8” page was changed in the

antitrust compliance policy. That removed the authority
for verification.

Q. Now, I want to turn to certain particular changes
in published price, Mr. Hayes, in which you had some in-
volvement.

First I would like to go to the period back in December
of 1965. That is the time when you were manager of the
Central Region I think you called it?

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Richard Thompson, Direct

not saying, “You have got my authority to spend the Celotex
money’?

A. I told him this: that, if he was satisfied, from his
investigation and his contact with the customer, that ap-
proximately 25 cents per hundredweight would be the
equivalent of the lower prices which were being offered
to other customers in that area, and, if he would make that
allowance to all of the customers in that area that he was

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going to serve that way, that it would be a legal situation
under any of the Antitrust Laws that I knew anything
about.

Q. By the way, where is that Hamlin, Texas, where
we have the plant?

A. The Hamlin gypsum plant of Celotex is located in
Fisher County, Texas, which is approximately 400 to 450
miles east of El Paso and perhaps 150 to 200 miles west of
Dallas.

Q. Do you know whether Miller went ahead and au-
thorized those unloading allowances?

A. Yes. Iknow he did; yes.

Q. He did. Now, were there occasions, after this
advice that you gave Miller in the early ’60's about the El
Paso market, occasions on which you advised Mr. Miller
about the Antitrust Laws and the Robinson-Patman Act?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Well, were there many or few or—

A. Oh, several. Let's put it that way.

Q. Several?

A. Probably two or three times a month.

Q. I see. Now, please tell the Court and the jury,
then, on these occasions thereafter, what advice you gave
Mr. Miller about the Antitrust Laws, about compliance
with the Robinson-Patman Act.

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Richard Thompson, Direct

Now, you understand, we are confining ourselves to
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the period prior to December 27, 1973, so, in that period,
what advice on the Robinson-Patman Act and the Anti-
trust Laws did you give him?

A. Well, I him that, under the Robinson-Patman
Act, as I understood it, he could not discriminate in favor
of a customer to the detriment of another customer, if they
were competitors and if the merchandise was of like grade
and quality, and that, unless he could find a good faith
defense, as the Robinson-Patman Act calls it, to meet the
equally low price of some competing manufacturer, that
he had to treat all of his customers of the same class in the
same trading area the same, both as to price and service
and facilities, promotional allowances, or anything else.

Q. And did you advise him with respect to the Sher-
man Act?

A. I told him that, with respect to the Sherman Act,
he could never agree with a competitor on anything, nor
even discuss terms and conditions of sale or prices with

tors.

Q. Now, did you give him advice concerning this
matter which has been called, here, verification?

A. Frequently.

Q. What did you tell him about that?

A. Weil, I told him that, if he were confronted by a
customer with a claim of a price below our price, in that

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area, to that class of trade, for gypsum wallboard, and if
he was unable, in his own mind, to establish the truth or
falsity of the customer's claim by invoice froin competing
manufacturer, examination of the customer's books, afli-
davit from the customer, or other evidence which satisfied

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Richard Thompson, Direct

him, then, he could, if he were so inclined, telephone a
counterpart in the competing gypsum compa. to ascer-
tain if, in fact, that company had offered that customer the
price which the customer claimed was available to him.

Q. And did you tell him why he could do that; that
is, the good faith meeting under the Robinson-Patman
Act?

A. I told him that that was the only defense that was
available to him to discriminate in price, facilities, or ser-
vices between customers; unless he could establish the fact
that he was meeting a competitive condition, that he had
no choice but to ‘orego the business or lower the price to
everybody in the area, or lose it altogether.

Q. Did you caution him about the type of inquiry
which, under the Robinson-Patman Act, he could make of
a competitive manufacturer?

A. Yes, sir. I discussed that with him many times.

Q. What did you tell him in that respect?

A. I told him that he could call a competitor and say
that the “XYZ Lumber Company in Paducah was advised
that they have a price from you on half-inch wallboard of

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such-and-such figure. Is it right or is it wrong?”

Q. Did you tell him he could accept calls from others?

A. I told him he could if he wanted to.

Q. And tell them that information?

A. As long as he confined it to answering that kind of
question, I told him, it was all right.

Q. So that, now, on the one hand, you had to tell him
—and did you tell him, under the Sherman Act, he couldn't
get together and agree with anyone?

A. Right.

Q. In fact, you discouraged him, under what you told
him, from talking to others; is that right?

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Richard Thompson, Direct

A. That's right.

Q. On the other hand, you told him that he could call
up and verify?

A. I tried to explain to him, many times, the difficult
position that he or anybody in his capacity was put in by
attempting to abide strictly to the provisions or with the
provisions of those two statutes, because, in effect it is
difficult to tread that narrow line between permissible, as
I viewed it, and non-permissible contact, and I tried to
point out to him the reason why his conversations should
be so circumscribed.

Q. And those two statutes, you are referring to the
Sherman Act, under which the company, Celotex, is in-
dicted and
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stands trial?

A. Right.

Q. And, on the other hand, the Robinson-Patman Act,
which you were trying to help that company comply with?

A. Which is equally a Federal statute, the same as
the Sherman Act; yes, sir.

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By Mr. McSweeney:

Q. Did Mr. Miller ever tell you that he called some
competitor and they wouldn't answer him on price verifi-
cation?

A. Yes, he did.

Q. By the way—going back. When you were there
in the company talking to Miller back in the early—let’s
say in the early ’60’s—when you and Mr. Miller talked, did
you have this term “verification?”

A. No, sir. We called it “checking.”

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Richard Thompson, Direct

Q. Checking?

And this term “verification” has grown up since?

A. Lhave heard a lot of that.

Q. And have you seen it in the case laws?

A. Yes, I have seen it in the case law, yes, sir.

Q. By the way, if he told you that a competitor would
not answer him when he called up, what did you say to
him?

A. Well, I told him that the competitor didn’t need to
answer him, that he had his freedom of choice just the
same as Miller did, and he had no recourse. If a competi-
tor chose not to respond, why he should hang up.

Q. What could he do then about meeting the com-
petitive price? :

A. Well, then he had two choices. He could meet it
and hope that the information that he already had was

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sufficient and represented the true facts; or, he could give
up the business of that particular account on that particu-
lar occasion.

Q. He always had available the lowering of price to
everybody in the trade area?

A. He could always lower the price to everybody in
the areas, certainly.

Q. Did you give the advice or the same type of ad-
vice you gave to Don Miller to other people in Celotex?

A. Yes, I did. To each of our product managers.

Q. Your job as a lawyer—you weren't just advising
Miller on gypsum?

A. No, sir, I was not.

—4t tr. Fricano: Objection to going into any other
products aside from gypsum wallboard.

The Court: Overruled.

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By Mr. McSweeney:
Araneae oe the company’s legal advice to the
product managers of other products; did not?
A. Correct. Yes, sir. _
Q. And you didn’t, in that about

with the Robinson-Patman Act in good faith meeting of
competition, you didn’t tell Miller one thing and the other
people another thing; did you?

A. No, sir, I did not.

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Q. You gave that, generali speaking, the :
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A. Correct.

Q. Now what advice, if any, about compliance with
the Robinson-Patman Act and the Scum Ast 28 oon
give to the general credit manager from this ? Let’
take from late ‘65 through 1978. eee

A. Well, I gave him practically the same advice that
I had given to Miller. Of course, the credit man’s sphere
of interest is slightly different.

They were well aware of the practice in the ind
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amount owed, length of time to pay, and whether you had
to sue to collect, and whether you had to put a lien on the
job to get your money, and so on and so forth.

But, the most frequent inquiry from the credit
would be with respect to an alleged claim of extended
terms within which to take a discount or a greater discount.

And in those instances I told the credit manager that
terms and conditions of sale, in my opinion, were a part of
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or the other product managers with respect to the
narrow limits within which I thought it was
for them to make inquiries of competing companies with

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respect to extended terms or greater discounts.

Q. Now, was there a difference in the legal advice
which you gave the salesmen and district office men on
the one hand, and a product manager like Miller—Well,
say specifically Miller, on the other hand—with respect to
the compliance with the Sherman Act and the Federal
Antitrust Laws?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. What was that difference?

A. I never discussed with the salesmen in the field,
nor with the district branch manager, this thing that I
previously referred to as this narrow exception, the so-
called verification procedure.

My advice to them always was to have no contacts
with competitors of any kind under any circumstances.

Q. Now, why did you make that distinction between
what you covered and said with the product managers
like Miller on the one hand, and the advice to the salesmen
in the field and district officers on the other hand?

A. Well, there are several reasons.

The salesmen in the tield, or the district managers in
the field, had no authority at any time to change or alter
or modify any of our published terms and conditions of
sale.

Secondly, there were 12 or 15 managers in the
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field, and possibly 150 to 200 salesmen. It was utterly
impossible for me to have the same degree of frequent con-
tact and the same opportunity to counsel and discuss and
advise that I had with the half a dozen or so people around
the home office with whom I was in daily or weekly con-
tact, because we shared the same offices.

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And, I could keep them more currently and more
carefully informed than I could ever try to do the same
with a big sales force.

Q. In other words if you talked about verification
with them, were you concerned about suggesting to them
that they would go right ahead and call up competitors
willy-nilly?

A. I was concerned that that might occur to some
of them to do it, and I didn’t want them to do that under
any circumstances.

Q. Whereas, you were confident that with men like
Don Miller you could give him the right advice as to how
to do it and he would do it under controlled circumstances?

A. Thad an opportunity to tell him what I thought was
proper or improper, and I could tell him that whenever it
occurred to me or to him.

And frequently we would discuss the subject, yes.

Q. You knew Miller for how many years?

A. Well, the late ’50’s until he died in °74.

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Q. When you gave him this advice, did he appear to
you to be a person attentive to and receptive to the legal
advice you gave him?

A. He was an extremely attentive audience. He was
most concerned to do nothing wrong. And he would
come to me sometimes with questions that I was confident
he didn’t need to ask, but I never discouraged him and I'd
give him the best answer I could and as much time as I
could find, because Miller was a very conscientious man.

Q. Now, Mr. Thompson, we had reference here to a
Supreme Court case referred to as the Container Case.

Are you familiar with that case?

A. Yes, sir.

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Q. And when did you first become familiar with it?

A. The first notice I had of it was when I read in
either the U. S. Law Week or the C. C. H. Trade Regula-
tions Service—and I don’t recall which one, because we
subscribed to both of them. I read the report of the case
in the district court in North Carolina, I believe it was.

Q. And then did you follow it through the courts?

A. I followed it from then on through the Supreme
Court.

Q. And then it went to the Supreme Court and a
decision was rendered; is that correct?

A. Yes, sir.

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Q. When did you learn about the Supreme Court de-

cision?

A. Well, the decision was rendered, I think, on Janu-
ary 14, 1969, and I read it January 15th in the Wall Street
Journal.

About a week later I got a copy of the opinion through
our regular services.

Q. You subscribed to an antitrust service which re-
ports cases?

A. Oh, yes. We had Practicing Law Institute, BNA,
and CCH.

Q. The “CCH,” that’s the...

A. Commerce Clearing House Trade Regulations Ser-
vice.

Q. And they report...

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Source: Frix Law Library, https://www.frixlaw.com/law-library/documents/brief%3Amicro_IA40385004_1810%3A1. Public record. Not legal advice.
