# Appendix — Liberty Mutual Insurance v. Wetzel

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## Record

- **Collection:** Supreme Court brief
- **Document type:** Appendix
- **Published:** January 1, 1976
- **Citation:** 424 U.S. 737

## Text

Pe FS oe

. Supreme Court of the Gnited States

by acs? Octoser TERM, 1974.

No. 74-1246

3 LIBERTY MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY,
é : A CORPORATION,
ae. | Petitioner,

SANDRA WETZEL anp MARI ROSS, oN BEHALF OF.
a | THEMSELVES AND ALL OTHERS SIMILARLY SITUATED,

eg ON WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT

IN THE

Supreme Court of the GQnited States

OcTOBER TERM, 1974.

No. 74-1245

LIBERTY MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY,

A CORPORATION,
Petitioner,
vs.

SANDRA WETZEL AnD MARI ROSS, ON BEHALF OF
THEMSELVES AND ALL OTHERS SIMILARLY SITUATED,
Respondents.

ON WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT
OF APPEALS FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT.

INDEX

PAGE

EE cnn Un hee hns senses venestesceesesses l
DT HebetheccauGanebseeeGeaseceeccevncesess 16
PEE NO wdbnKhe ee cheese ds eeeedeeuscecesecoceee 20
Charge Before Pa. Civil Rights Commission ........... 24
Deposition of K. D. Spaulding, 10/17/72 ............. 26
Deposition of K. D. Spaulding, 11/27/72 ............. 81
Motion for Summary Judgment ...............0.20008, 84
Exhibit E Attached Thereto .................45- 86
Exhibit H Attached Thereto ..............00000. 88

Exhibit I Attached Thereto .................2.. 90

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Exhibit J Attached Thereto ..........e+eeeeeees 92
Exhibit K Attached Thereto ...........0eeeeeees 94
Exhibit L Attached Thereto ..........eeeeeeeees 96
Exhibit M Attached Thereto ..........++eeeeeees 98
Charge of Discrimination—EEOC—Sandra Wetzel ...... 102
Charge of Discrimination—EEOC—Mari B. Ross ...... 105
Response to Motion for Summary Judgment ........... 107
Wetzel Affidavit—10/31/1973 ......... cence eeeees 101
Opinion of District Court—1/9/74 ......-0. cece eens 133
Motion for Reconsideration—1/30/74 ..........++55+ 164
Memorandum Order of District Court—2/20/74 ....... 183
Notice of Appeal... ccccccccccccccccsesssseeeue 187

Motion for Leave to Present Background Statistics and Af-
fidavit of K. D. Spaulding, Third Circuit ............ 188

Appellees’ Response in Opposition to Appellant’s Motion for
Leave to Present Background Statistics, Third Circuit 192

Appellant’s Response to Appellees’ Opposition to Motion for
Leave to Present Background Statistics, Third Circuit.. 194

Order—Third Circuit on Appellees’ Motion for Leave to
Present Background Statistics ..........-eeeeeeeee 197

Sratetes and Regulations ......csccscccsesesseaueuen 198

APPENDIX

DOCKET ENTRIES
72 169 Sandra Wetzel etc. vs. Liberty Mutual Ins.

Date
1972 Proceedings
Feb. 28—Complaint Filed ...........scccccccccces 1
Web. 26-—Gemmons Tesued ... 1.0 sce ccc ccccccces 1
Feb, 28—Pltfs Notice of service of Interrogatories to Deft
UEC sbbeeebecbecescccceccccce 2
Feb. 28—Pitfs Notice of service of Interrogatories to Deft
inns eb600000 6600000000 0-00 3
Feb. 28—Notice of taking the Depositions of Kenneth
Raymond on 4-3-72, Wilford Aune on 4-6-72, Dick
Dancer on 4-12-72 and James W. Roop on 4-17-72.. 4
Feb. 28—Plitf's Request for Production of Documents—
MECC UE hea secebccectecccccescccs 5
Feb. 28—Pitf's Motion for Class Action Determination filed 6
Mar 2—Marshal’s Form 285 returned served on deft on
DEP PEEE EER Cd 5580000 oc ceccceccces 7
Mar. 9—Praecipe for appearance of Kalvin M. Grove and
Robert A. Penney, Esqrs. as counsel for deft. filed... 8
Mar. 10—Praecipe for appearance for Liberty Mutual Ins.
Co. filed by Clem R. Kyle, Esq. ................ 9
Mar. 10—Memorandum order fixing preliminary confer-
ence of counsel for 4-4-72 at 11 A.M. (Weber, J.) .. 10
Mar. 14—Stipulation for extension of time to answer and
eee er ee sesevesedorsccccces 11

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Mar. 14—Order ent. upon filing stip for extension of time,
granting time to Liberty Mutual Ins. to answer to and
including 4/20/72 (Weber, J.) ..........ee00e.

Apr. 5—Hearing on conference of counsel re deposition
held before Weber, J. and concluded Cav. Memo. filed
(protective order dictated on record of the deposi-
GD ccccnnsnscecesusecitsascednbiadabases

Apr. 5—Order ent. re pretrial schedule to be observed by
SS Geek GD. bob onesccdecsseadisecséces

Rap, TPE GS oo 2.0 bese 0neskecswnssesesses

May 1—Deft’s Answers to pltfs Interrogatories (Second
ep Ge Gos: DED cccccnccccceuwesecdteus

May 1—Deft’s Answers to pltfs Interrogatories (First Set)
See Gee, OGD ov vcsnccnseciccddcicesedbees

May 16—Proposed demand for jury trial filed by pltf. ..

May 17—Memorandum order striking proposed demand
for jury trial under Rule 383; directing that motion
be filed under Rule 393; if motion is filed, deft. to re-
spond in 15 days, matter will be decided on briefs
GWE, GaP cocucccccsccccecsensececedecance

May 22—Notice, motion for jury trial and proposed order
Sle GP GE cccdcucceceecuceacnesnuesoseoes
May 23—Order entered directing deft file a Response to
Pitfs Motion for Jury Trial on or before 6-5-72 show-

ing cause if any why the court should not order Jury
Wee GCUPEL Gat éuvocdcucedenosouceokauans

June 5—Deft’s response to pltfs’ motion for jury trial and
SONGS CUEIT ENG occ ccccccesscccecccesecees
June 9—Memorandum Order directing Pitf file reply brief
on or before 6-23-72 and court will determine matter
Gis Gee SE ckacodeccbnseseiaa enc

June 28—Deposition of Kenneth W. Raymond filed ... .

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July 3—Motion for extension of time in which to file brief _
on plitfs’ rule 23 motion and proposed order filed

BP GD ivcccnvccewcdsiccscesccetssvesowssse 23A
July 5—Deft’s response to pltf's reply brief re: Demand
Gor Sary tiled 2 cccccccccccccccccccccoccccsces 24

July S—Order entered extending to 7/21/72 the time for
deft to submit brief in re Rule 23 motion (Weber,
BD nedediccccdddcdiecceseaeceicdésdcteesene 25

Aug. 1—Notice to counsel fixing argument on Motion for
Class Action for 8/16/72 at 1:30 P.M. before
We, B. cccccccccecesscteddscdsbsccbecoess 26

Aug. 4—Deposition of Kenneth W. Raymond filed ..... 27

Aug. 16—Hearing held on Motion for Class Action De-
termination and Demand for Jury Trial before Weber,
J. Hearing memo filed. (Rep. J. Lilienthal) (Con-
Gee oc ccdcceccedccudecesectsbésooess 28

Aug. 17—Memorandum Order dated 8/16/72 entered
granting pltfs Motion for determination of class
action; order is conditional, subject to further Order.
CUR, GD. ccccecvecceccceseccecdctscccccs 29

Aug. 17—Order dated 8/16/72 entered deferring determi-
nation on pltfs’ Demand for Jury Trial until pretrial
enna, Ges TaD. occce cencaceessececeoss 30

Aug. 18—Notice of taking depositions of Edmund A. Carr
on 9/11; of Daniel Phillips on 9/12 of W. Lawrence

Usher on 9/13 filed by plfs ............-00e008s 31
Aug. 29—Pltfs Notice of Service of Interrogatories to Deft-
Wee GIR GD ccccesccdcccccceccecevcesscees 32

Sept. 11—Notice, application for class notification with
proposed notice and proposed order filed by pltfs .. 33

Sept. 14—Memorandum Order entered directing that be-
fore any notice is approved by this court it will have

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to consider further the proposition of the class or
SE Ge GA GD oh bo bb 56 cd ccedicecdndes
Sept. 27—Deft’s Answers to Pitf's Interrogs (Third Set)
GR, GReR. BED cccccccccscccccccavcccseces
Oct. 6—Notice of depositions of Kenneth Spaulding and
Kenneth Raymond on 10/17/72 at 10:00 A.M. and
3:00 P.M. respectively filed by Pitfs ............
Oct. 6—Notice of deposition of Marian Holliday on
10/18/72 at 2:00 P.M. filed by pltfs ............
Oct. 12—Notice, motion for production of documents and
proposed order filed by pltfs .............20005-
Oct. 13—Notice of service of Interrogs upon defts. filed
By PEMD nc ccccccccccccccccccccccccscoscceess
Oct. 16—Motion for permission to obtain discovery and
proposed order filed by deft ............---2505.
Oct. 17—Order entered directing deft to file response to
Motion for Production by 11/1/72 and moving party
file reply on or before 11/8/72. (Weber, J.) ......
Nov. 2—Response of Liberty Mutual Insurance Co. to
Motion for Production of Documents, filed ........
Nov. 9—Motion for protective order and proposed order
re pitfs’ 4th set of interrogs. filed by deft ..........
Nov. 9—Order entered directing that Court will hear
counsel with respect to all pending discovery motions
on 11/27/72 at 3:30 P. M. (Weber, J.) ..........
Nov. 13—Deft’s Answers to Pltfs Interrogs filed. (Nos.
BERD cccccecescesecccccseccesesceseecesses
Nov. 14—Transcript of argument held 8/16/72 before
Weber, J. filed (Rep. L. Lilientha) ..............

Nov. 16—Deposition of Mari Ross filed ..............
Nov. 16—Deposition of Sandra Wetzel filed ..........

Nov. 16—Deposition of Wilfred B. Aune filed. (Taken
EVE UED coccecccecocceeeceesesoseceseeses

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Nov. 16—Deposition of Wilfred B. Aune filed. (Taken

PPD SE bURds duckedb ud cendedsieudsésess 50
Nov. 16—Deposition of James W. Roop filed. (Taken
SORTED. BESUeReeU Nich deddkueaddnddddécdeces 51
Nov. 16—Deposition of James W. Roop filed. (Taken
gg EE er rn eer ee 52
Nov. 16—Deposition of Richard R. Danser, filed. (Taken
fg OPE eee TCC TTT TTT ee 53
Nov. 16—Deposition of Richard R. Danser, filed. (Taken
OU hic ceS Sb ON Wie cee dwSSENS 04s dace 54
Nov. 16—Deposition of Marian Holliday filed ........ 55

Nov. 27—Hearing held on Motion for Production, Motion
for Permission to Obtain Discovery and Motion for
Protective Order before Weber, J. and taken Cav.

(Memo filed) (Rep. None) ...............00.. 56
Dec. 19—Transcript of Oral Argument held 11/27/72
before Weber, J. filed. (Rep: M. Mimless) ........ 57
Dec. 19——Notice of fifth set of interrogs to deft filed by
Se ddddcéhebdeddeoUedcddcacncenecsesveess 58
Dec. 21—Deposition of Daniel D. Phillips filed ........ 59
Dec. 21—Deposition of Edmund A. Carr filed ......... 60
Dec. 21—Continued Deposition of Edmund A. Carr filed 61
1973
Jan. 18—Motion for Protective Order filed by deft ...... 62
Jan. 19—Deft’s Answers to Pitfs Interrogs filed. (Nos.
1-46) (Fifth Set of Interrogs) .................. 63

Jan. 22—Protective Order entered directing that deft’s
answer to pltfs interrogatory fifth Set No. 21 be
placed in a sealed envelope and marked “To Be
Opened Only as Directed by the Court. (Weber, J.) 63A

Jan. 30—Deposition of Kenneth Spaulding filed ........ 64

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Jan. 30—-Continued Deposition of Kenneth W. Raymond
4t lg. BPPPPPTTTITRITITL TTT eT
Feb. 2—Letter of 1/31/73 to Clerk with Sealed Fifth Set
of Interrog No. 21 to Pltf with deft’s answer thereon
filed. (Placed in Safe per Order of 1/22/73) ......
Feb. 7—Memorandum Order entered Granting defts
Motion for Protective Order in answering questions
7, 8, 9 and 10 of the 4th Set of Interrogs. (Weber, J.)
Mar. 12—Motion for Reconsideration filed by Pitf. ....

Mar. 20—Conference of Counsel held 3/19/73 before
Weber, J. and concluded. (Memo filed) (Rep: None)
Mar. 22—Order entered denying Pltf’s Motion for Recon-
sideration of its Memorandum Order of 2/17/73.
(Waban, 3.) ccccccccccccnccccnccccccccccses

Mar. 26—Motion for Summary Judgment filed by Pitfs . .

Mar. 30—Order entered directing plts; submit brief in re
motion for summary judgment by 4/30/73; deft. by
S/1S/TS. CWeleat, F.) co vccccccccccccccsccecces

April 4—Notice of deposition of Mary Kay Reardon on
5/10/73 at 9:00 A.M. filed by deft ............

April 4—Notice of deposition of Alice Welch on 6/5/73
at 9:00 A.M. filed by deft ...........eeeeeeeee

April 4—Notice of deposition of Marilyn A. Huffstutter on
5/8/73 at 9:00 A.M. filed by deft ..............

April 4—Notice of deposition of Margaret A. Hans on
5/16/73 at 9:00 A.M. filed by deft ............

April 4—Notice of deposition of Ms. Boydyne M. Ross
on 5/1/73 at 9:00 A.M. filed by deft. ..........
April 11—Notice of interrogs on pltf filed by deft ......
April 25—Stipulation for extension of time for parties to
file briefs and evidentiary materic! re motion for
summary judgment and proposed order filed .....

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April 26—Order entered granting extension of time of
parties to file briefs in support of Motion for Motion
of Summary until 6/15/73; deft file their briefs ex-
tended to 7/13/73. (Weber, J.) ........0e ce eee

May 21—Motion for protective order re sealing of deposi-
tion exhibits and proposed order filed by deft ......

May 23—Pitfs Answers to Deft’s First set of Interrogs
ey ty Nn in cad ian edi nkececndctece xs

May 25—Proposed protective order filed ............

June 2i—Affidavit of Sandra Wetzel in Support of Pitfs
Motion for Summary Judgment filed ............

June 21—Affidavit of Mari Ross in support of Pitf's Motion
for Summary Judgment filed ...................

June 21—Affidavit of Howard A. Specter in Support of
Pitf's Motion for Summary Judgment filed ........

June 25—Motion for an extension of time in which to re-
spond to pltfs’ motion for summary judgment and pro-
posed order fled by deft .....cccccsccccccccees

June 27—Motion of the United States Equal Employment
Opportunity Commission to file a brief and present
oral argument as Amicus Curiae filed ..........

June 28—Order entered granting motion of counsel for
U. S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
to file brief and present oral argument as amicus
curiae. Name of Local counsel for U. S. Equal Em-
ployment Opportunity Comm. shall be noted on
docket as party to receive copy of all notices and
pleadings in this case. (Weber, J.) ..............

June 28—Order entered setting hearing on Motion for
Summary Judgment for 9/24/73 at 9:30 a.m. (Web-
rer rr eee een ne

June 29—Protective Order entered 6/28/73 directing that
all personnel files being marked as exhibits to the de-

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positions of deft’s present and past employees and all
statements being marked and attached as exhibits be
placed in a sealed envelope and filed with the Clerk of
the Court and marked (To Be Opened Only as Di-
rected by the Court). (Weber, J.) .........-..45.
July 5—Deft’s Amended Answers to Pitf’s Fifth Set of
GE PPPPTUTTITITIT TTT TTT TTT TT Tee
July 16—Discovery Deposition of Boydyne Ross with
Amendment and exhibits attached thereto filed. (Ex’s
marked Only to Be Opened by Court Order) ......
July 16—Ex’s received from Commerce Reporting Com-
pany. (Large envel placed in file) (Marked To Be
Opened as Directed by the Court) ..............
July 16—Deposition of Mary Kelly filed ..............
July 19—Deposition of Diane C. Turnipseed filed ......
July 19—Deposition of Marilyn A. Huffstutter filed ....
July 19—Deposition of Donna Diklich filed ...........
July 19—Exhibits to Deposition of Marilyn A. Huffstutter
filed. (Placed in Safe—Marked to be opened only as
directed by the Court) (2 envelopes) ............
July 19—Exhibits to Deposition of Diane A. Turnipseed
filed. (Placed in Safe—Marked to be opened only as
directed by the Court) (1 envelope) ............
July 19—Exhibits to Deposition of Donna Diklich filed
(Placed in Safe—Marked to be opened only as
directed by the Court) (1 envelope) ............
July 23—Deposition of Mary Kay Reardon filed ........
July 23—Exhibits to Deposition of Mary Kay Reardon
filed. (Marked, To Be Opened Only as Directed by
the Court) (Placed in Safe) ..............000.
July 27—Deposition of Carol Dolaoglu filed ..........

July 31—Deposition of Zoanne Salter filed ............

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July 31—Deposition of Ethel Smith filed ............ 97

July 31—Exhibits to Deposition of Zoanne Salter filed.
Marked “To Be Opened only as directed by Court.”
1 envelope. (Placed in safe) .........20eeeeeee
July 31—Exhibits to Deposition of Ethel Smith filed.
Marked “To Be Opened only as directed by Court.”
1 envelope. (Placed in safe) ............00008.
Aug. 17—Notice, motion for amendment of memorandum
order on pltfs’ motion to determine class action and

proposed order filed by pltfs ...............45. 98
Aug. 27—Order entered fixing hearing on Motion to Mod-
ify for 9/24/73 at 9:30 A.M. (Weber, J.) ........ 98A

Aug. 31—Motion of the Chamber of Commerce of the
United States for Leave to Participate as Amicus

= PPP errPrr rrr errr Prrererrry Terr Tee ere 99
Sept. 4—Response of Deft to Pitfs Motion to Summary
FURMITE GE ccc ccccctcccccccnccecsoccencs 100

Sept. 4—Certificate of service of Motion of Chamber of
Commerce of the U. S. for Leave to Participate as
Amicus Curiae and Brief of the Chamber of Com-
merce of the U. S. in support of the deft filed ...... 101

Sept. 12—Notice rescheduling hearing set for 9/24/73 at
9:30 A.M. to 9/24/73 at 11:00 A.M. before Weber,
DB TD ccccdccccaveccscedécceeesecceecesces 102

Sept. 14—Response of Deft to Motion for Amendment of
Memorandum Order on Pitfs Motion to Determine

Gs A GD cc ccccccccccctceseccciovdes 103
Sept. 20—Deposition of Carolyn Ann Pastore filed .... 104
Sept. 20—Deposition of Carol Rusching Tilley filed .... 105
Sept. 20—Deposition of Alice Welch filed ............ 106
Sept. 20—Deposition of Lenore King filed ............ 107

Sept. 20—Deposition of Margaret Gail Martin filed .... 108

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Sept. 20—Exhibits to Deposition of M. Gail Martin filed.

(Marked To Be Opened Only as Directed by the
Gee Ge BR OD oo dcccccuséwdubennssca:

Sept. 20—Exhibits to Deposition of Alice Welch filed.
(Marked to be Opened Only as Directed by the
Court) (Placed in safe) .........c.cceeee aeeaes

Sept. 20—Exhibits to Deposition of Carolyn Ann Pastore

filed (Marked to be opened only as Directed by the
ee NEED bcincucciadcdeecuanaas

Sept. 20—Exhibits to Deposition of Carol Rusching Tilley
filed. (Marked to be opened only as directed by the
Court) (Placed in safe) .....................

Sept. 20—Exhibits to Deposition of Lenore G. King filed.

(Marked to be opened only as directed by the Court)
Pe ee ED eit cata ade cascccuekane coe.

Oct. 2—Notice fixing arg. on 10/31/73 at 9:30 A.M. be-

Se SN Waaddedbveenuccn une we 109
Oct. 29—Deft’s Further Amended Answers to Pltf’s In-
terrogs (Fifth Set) filed ..... ccc cccccccccccce 110

Oct. 31—Hearing held on Motion for Summary Judgment;
Motion to Amendment of Memorandum Order -
Pitfs Motion to Determine Class Action; Motion of
Chamber of Commerce of U. S. for Leave to Par-
ticipate as Amicus Curiae before Weber, J. and
taken Cav. (Memo filed) (Rep: M. Cutright).... 111

Nov. 1—Affidavit of Sandra Wetzel filed ............ 112

Nov. 16—Order entered fixing Conference of Counsel for
12/3/73 at 1:30 P.M. (Weber, J.)

Nov. 20—Letter dated 11/19/73 from Howard A. Specter
Esqr to Kalvin Grove, Esar filed

Dec. 3—Notice, motion for reconsiderati
’ on and proposed
order filed by pltfs. oe,

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Dec. 3—Notice, motion for an order compelling discovery
(production of documents) and proposed order filed
by pltfs, ..... cece cece cece ee ereceeeeneecnes

Dec. 3—Conference of Counsel held before Weber, J. and
taken Cav. (Memo filed) (Rep: M. Cutright) ....

Dec. 4—Pift’s Request for Production of Documents
(Second Set) filed .......eeeececeereneeceeces
Dec. 5—Notice, and Motion for Leave to Withdraw Re-
quest for Jury Trial with proposed order thereon
filed by Pltfs .......seeeee cece cece ecerceeces
Dec. 5—Order entered Granting Motion to Withdraw Re-
quest for Jury Trial. (Weber, J.) ......+++++++-
Dec. 6—Memorandum Order entered on Pending Matters
directing that Order of 8/16/72 be amended; deft
to respond to Pitfs motion showing cause by
12/17/73; deft shall produce for inspection any copy-
ing by Pitf’s counsel all statements taken by the deft.
(Walbet, 3.) .cccccccccccccccccvcscccsccccess 1
Dec. 14—Notice of taking depositions of Frank L. Farwell
1/7/74 at 10 A.M.; John F. Robinson 1/10/74 at
10 A.M..; Raymond O. Hollis 2/11/74 at 10 A.M.;
John P. Larrabee 2/13/74 at 10:00 A.M.; William
A. Herrick 2/19/74 10 A.M. filed by pltf. .......
Dec. 17—Response of deft. to motion for an order com-
pelling discovery filed ......+-++seeeeeeeeeeeees
Dec. 17—Motion for reconsideration of that portion of the
memorandum order of 12-6-73 pertaining to the pro-
duction of statements from deft’s employees filed by
ee. oononebbces cueusesesédocesesccnszeswes
Dec. 19—Notice of service of interrogs to deft (Sixth Set)
filed by pltf. 2.02... cee cece e cree renee ee eeeee
Dec. 26—Motion for order that deposition not be taken
filed by deft. (deposition of Frank L. Farwell) ......

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Dec. 27—Stipulation for extension of time for deft. to
respond to pltfs’ request for production of documents
—second set and proposed order filed ............ 125

Dec. 28—Order entered granting Stip. for Extension of
time until 2/4/74 for deft. to respond to pltf’s request

for production of documents. (Weber, J.) .......
1974
Jan. 2—Letter dated 12/28/73 from Atty Specter to
Judge Weber filed. ......... 2. cee ee cece eeeees 126
Jan. 8—Notice of Deposition of John F. Robinson on
1/24/74 at 9:30 A.M. filed by Pltf. ............. 127

Jan. 9—Opinion filed and Order entered; deft found to
have violated Civil Rights Act: violations of Title
VII found in paragraphs 1, 2, 3 and 4 of Order have
ceased as a matter of Company practice and no in-
junctive relief with respect to these issues is appropri-
ate; the question of liability and appropriate relief for
the issues of equal pay for equal work between male
and female employees is reserved for further proceed-

ings. (Weber, J.) ..ccccccccccccccccccccwccees 128
Jan. 9—Order entered fixing meeting of counsel for
1/24/74 at 3:30 P.M. (Weber, J.) ......eceeee08. 129

*Jan. 10—Supplement To the Brief of the Chamber of
Commerce of the United States of America as Ami-
cus Curiae. In support of the Deft. filed ........... 129
*Jan. 10—Pltfs Brief in Support of Motion for Summary
Judgment filed. (Transcript form) .............
*Jan. 10—Brief of the Chamber of Commerce of the
United States of America. As Amicus Curiae in Sup-

port Gf Gis Thee Gee on ccccccccceseccccocvese 129D
*Jan. 10—Pitf's Reply Brief in Support of Motion of Sum-
I FI GD 6 b'6:5 6 hk ccectncacecesendi 129E

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*Jan. 10—Supplemental Brief of the United States Equal
Employment Opportunity Commission as Amicus
SE SEE peSeeeb ones eeebeeseesé tm eccescons 129E

*Jan. 10—Brief On Behalf of the United States Equal Em-
ployment Opportunity Commission in Support of Pitf’s
Motion for Summary Judgment filed ............. 129F

NOTE: THE ABOVE BRIEFS MARKED WITH *
WERE STAMPED FILED BY JUDGE WEBER’S

SE Abe 1a055s 6b 6KU6065 0055000000000 129G
Jan. 15—Notice, application for injunctive relief and pro-
i ee Cr Oe re cc acccnscuscesecceses 130

Jan. 17—Stipulation for extension of time for deft. to
respond to interrogatories and proposed order filed .. 131

Jan. 17—Order entered extending time for deft to respond
to interrogs until 2/20/74. (Weber, M) .........

Jan. 24—Deft’s Answers to Pltfs interrogs (Sixth Set)

ee bs ied ene e ee peesenseees 132
*Jan. 24—Notice of Appeal from Part of Order filed by
Dh Riba eS Shep 4bEEE SKE CSc 0-0.06400 006 133

Jan. 24—Copy of Notice mailed Court of Appeals; letter
& copy to counsel and copy of notice given to Judge
WT SMSC UEGGAS ODE ESEEbESGOS EO CR SO>O>O>D

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Who is your immediate superior?

Melvin B. Bradshaw.

What is his title?

Executive vice president,

How long have you been employed by Liberty Mutual
Insurance Company?

A. Since June 19th, 1934.

Q. Is that the first full-time employment you had after being
graduated from college?

A. Yes, it is.

Q. Would you recite for me, the history of your employ-
ment [5] with Liberty Mutual, tell me what positions you held
and where you held them and during what periods of time you
held them?

You have heard this before, so you know what I want.

A. Claims training class, from June 19th until approxi-
mately the Ist of August. Then I was transferred—

Mr. Grove: What year?

The Witness: 1934, I am sorry.

A. Then I was transferred to Philadelphia and I was there
until approximately April 1, 1937 as a claims adjuster and I
was transferred back to Boston and I worked as a claims ad-
juster from that date until about September, 1937 when I
became a supervisor in the Boston Claims Department.

I remained there until 1944 when I went to the home office
as a home office claims examiner. I was there two years, ap-
proximately two years and a half.

Then I returned in the spring of 1946, I believe, to the
Boston Claims then as the chief adjuster, the same job that
is now known as assistant claims manager.

I became claims manager in the Boston Claims Office in
1949 until I was transferred to New York as administrative
assistant in the New York Division and I remained there until
April Ist, 1960 when I was transferred to the home office again
in Boston as manager of personnel services.

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[6] Q. And you have been manager of personnel services
since April of 1960?

A. Correct.

Q. Is there a written job description for your job?

A. Apparently not. I thought there was but I couldn't
find one.

Q. Why did you think there was?

A. Because I thought at the time of my transfer, there
was an organizational bulletin put out that I was moving
from New York to Boston and I thought there was something
in there about it but that is not so.

Q. Would you tell me what duties and functions you per-
formed as manager of personnel services?

A. Well, perhaps, I could start with telling you of the
people who report to me, what they do.

Q. Okay.

A. One person reporting to me is director of company
safety, safety director for the company. Another one is coordi-
nator of benefit plans and he handles all of our benefit plans
at the claim level.

Another one is director of supervisory training, responsible
for the training of all of our nontechnical supervisory personnel.
[7] In addition to that, I work with the various departments
in those areas that are common to the company, if you will,
rather than as departmental problems and affairs.

Q. Would you tell me what you do now?

A. I pursue those things I have just mentioned plus having
some involvement with matters like the one now pending.

Q. Are you involved in all litigation in which the company
is named party?

A. Yes, in this area, in the area of employee relations, not in
the court area.

Q. Who is the company safety director?

A. Charles Butters.

Q. What does he do?

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A. Well, in addition to being director of safety, he is also
—oh, I forgot one person I must get back to—he also handles
the interviewing of people who come into our home office in
Boston looking for a job in the technical area who have
not been recruited but just as we call it, wander in because we
have a fair size building and we are in a relatively small city
and they have heard of Liberty Mutual and they come in and
he interviews them and he does that in connection with his job.

Also as director of safety, he is interested in such [8] things
as safety of our people and the working condition of our people
in the offices scattered throughout the country.

One person I forgot, James Brannon who is coordinator of
equal employment.

Q. Who is the coordinator of benefit plans?

A. Paul Gately.

C. What does he do?

A. Responsible for handling our comprehensive medical
and income protection claims at the claims level.

Q. By that you mean claims being made on behalf of
employees?

A. Well, yes, you know, their claims.

Q. As opposed to claims against the company from out-
side?

Yes. He has nothing to do with that.

Does Mr. Gately report directly to you?

Yes, he does.

Who is the director of supervisory training?

Norma M. Rodsater.

What does she do?

Well, she is responsible through a group of people
that we call training supervisors, there are some 38, 39 of
them located in each of our divisions, for the most part as-
signed to the division offices and their function is to {9] travel
and visit and inspect the offices within the division or within
their area of command, to determine that we are providing our

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technical staffs with the quality and quantity of clerical sup-
port that they need in order to get their work done.

Q. You mentioned your technical staff and the necessity
of providing them with clerical support. What distinction does
there exist in Liberty Mutual between jobs classified as tech-
nical and jobs classified as clerical?

A. Like most companies, we break our pay roll out as such
into two broad classifications, clerical and technical. We chose
that as opposed to some other designation.

Q. Is it your testimony that most large companies use those
classifications?

A. Using some sort of classification rather than having
a single pay roli. At least this is my experience. We think of
the clerical people as those who have functions that they could
do their work for anybody, not necessarily just limited to an
insurance company, they would be a secretary in a law firm,
in a department store. They are concerned with those areas
that are peculiar to and are in pursuit to the insurance company,
that is technical.

Q. You have rehabilitation nurses on your pay roll, do
[10] you not?

No, I do not.
Liberty Mutual does not—

Oh, I thought you meant on my pay roll in my depart-

No, with the company.
Yes.
Are they classified as technical or clerical?
Technical.
What do they do?
You would have to ask somebody in the claims de-
partment.

Q. You don’t know what they do at all?

A. Well, in a very broad sense of the word, I know they
are concerned with mostly seriously injured Workmen’s Com-

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pensation claimants but I don’t know exactly what their duties
are. I would have no occasion to know. :

Q. What does Mr. Brannon do?

A. Mr. Brannon is a black man that is engaged in the
recruiting of minority employees, devotes most of his time to
recruitment at the campus level and various black organiza-
tions across the country such as the NAACP, Urban League
and other agencies with which he is familiar and with whom
he has contact.

{11} Q. Is there some reason that you pointed out the fact
that Mr. Brannon is black?

A. Well, only because I thought you might be misled as
to his name. That is a good Irish name.

From what minority groups does he recruit employees?
Primarily black.

What others?

Oh, Spanish surname.

Any others?

I would not think so. Black men and women, Spanish
surname men and women.

Q. Pardon?

A. The black—

Q. No. The last comment you made.

A. Black male and females and male and female Spanish
surname.
How long has he had that position?

On a full-time basis, I would think about 18 months.

How about on a part-time basis?

Oh, about two or three years.

What else did he do?

He was an underwriter.

How long has he held the position of coordinator of
equal employment?

About a year and a half.

What was his title before that?

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A. Underwriter.

Q. Who was the coordinator of equal employment before
him?

A. We didn’t have one.

Q. Can you tell me with any precision, when that position
was created?

A. No, I can’t. The date, I would guess would be April,
1971.

Q. Are you able to tell me whether it was before or after
Mrs. Ross and Mrs. Wetzel filed their charges with the Pennsy]-
vania Human Relations Commission?

A. I can’t be certain.

Q. Are you able to tell me whether it was before or after
the New York City Commission began its investigation of
employment practices?

A. No, I can’t.

Q. Can you tell me whether it was before or after the
Massachusetts Commission began its investigation?

A. No, I can’t.

Q. Now, I have been told by numerous people including
Mr. Grove, that you would be able to tell me the company’s [13]
maternity leave policies as they presently exist and as they have
existed in the past.

Are you able to tell me the company’s present policy with
respect to maternity leave?

A. Yes.

Q. Please tell me.

A. Well, if a female employee has been employed with
us one year and makes a written request for leave for pregnancy
and her doctor verifies the fact that she is able to work and is
pregnant and so forth, she is entitled to a leave of absence.

Q. For how long?

A. Leave of absence is six months from the date of termi-
nation or three months from the date of delivery, whichever
comes first.

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Q. And are those firm deadlines?

A. Yes,

Q. Is that without regard to whether there are any com-
plications arising which for health reasons, preclude the em-
ployee from returning within that period of time?

A. Yes.

Q. Does the employee continue to accumulate benefits or
seniority during the leave of absence?

[14] A. No.

Q. Are there any benefits or waiting periods or seniority
points as it were, that are suspended during that period of
absence?

A. When she returns from a leave, there is no three months
waiting period as being employed at the beginning.

Also, she is returned to the same job or one comparable job.
We don’t think of it in terms of seniority.

Q. Is this leave of absence available only to female em-
ployees who have been with the company for a year or more?

A. That's correct.

Q. When was the present policy adopted?

A. Well, September, 1970, with a modification in November
of 1971.

Q. What month in 1971?

A. September. I mean November of 1971. There was a
modification in November of 1971.

Q. Tell me what the November, 1971 modification was.

A. Permitted to work through the ninth month or as long
as the doctor said health-wise, she could.

Q. Prior to 1971, how long were your female employees
permitted to work?

A. Through the eighth month.
[15] Q. How long had that been the policy?

A. Since 1967.
Q. September?
A. March.

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Q. What was the policy prior to March of 1967?

A. Through the sixth month.

Q. How long was that the policy?

A. I can only go back to 1948. I could find no records
earlier than that.

Q. Is it your testimony that the policy was the same from
1948 through March of 1967 or up until March of 1967?

A. That's correct.

Q. Now, was it always the policy that the employee re-
ceived leave of absence during her absence from employment
due to pregnancy?

A. No.

Q. When did that become a policy?

A. March, 1967.

Q. What was the policy prior to that?

A. Termination with re-employment if they returned to
work with a waiving of the waiting period as far as benefit plans
are concerned. They had to return for that privilege with-
in six months.

[16] Q. Were they guaranteed re-employment?

A. No.

Q. Under what circumstances were they re-employed?

A. Well, if we had an opening when they applied for re-
employment, we would take them back.

Q. At what point in time were they required to terminate

their employment?
A. At that time, prior to 1967?
Q. Yes.

A. Six months or earlier if the doctor indicated.

Q. Were there any company-approved exceptions to that
rule?

A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. Is the policy with respect to leaves of absence, has that
been the same since March of 1967?

A. Im sorry.

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Q. Since March of 1967, has it been the policy of the com-
pany to give leaves of absence to pregnant employees?

A. Yes.

Q. And has the time period for returning been the same
since that time?

A. Yes.

Q. So the only variable since March of 1967 is the period
[17] during which the employee was permitted to work?

Yes.

Tell me why the policy was changed in March of 1967.
On the advice of counsel.

What counsel?

Home office.

Who?

Mr. Penney.

. (Can you tell me what advice you were given?

Mr. Grove: Don’t answer the question.

Mr. Specter: State your reason.

Mr. Grove: Attorney-client privilege between Mr. Penney
and Mr. Spaulding and between Mr. Penney and his client, the
company.

Why was the policy changed in September of 1970?
On advice of counsel.

Same counsel?

Yes.

Why was it modified in November of 1971?

On advice of counsel.

Same counsel?

. Yes.

Mr. Specter: Same objection if I pursue [18] it?

Mr. Grove: Same objection if you ask the same question.

Q. Are you familiar with the company’s group life insur-
ance program?

A. Yes.

Q. You were present at the deposition of Mr. Carr which
was taken in this case, were you not?

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A. Yes.

Q. In fact, you have been present at all of the depositions
that have been taken so far?

A. Yes.

Q. You should have been a lawyer or you will by the time
we finish.

I would like to show you what was marked at Mr. Carr’s
deposition as Carr Deposition 8A through G. On the first page,
the one marked Carr Deposition Exhibit A, there is a statement
that a change in the company’s group life insurance program of
the extension of the technical men’s schedule to all technical
personnel.

A. Yes.

Q. Can you tell me what that refers to?

A. Well, prior to January 1, 1967, our group life [19] in-
surance program contained three schedules. The basic schedule,
technical men’s schedule and a senior schedule.

The basic schedule is paid for entirely by the company. At
the end of three months of employment, each and every em-
ployee received $1,000 worth of life insurance under the basic
schedule.

At the same time, technical men which subscribed to the
technical men’s schedule received $2,000 of insurance on each
of the succeeding ten anniversaries which they paid for entirely,
so at the end of ten years and three months of employment,
they would have a total of $25,000 in coverage, $22,000 under
the technical men’s schedule and $3,000 under the basic be-
cause the basic was increased to $3,000 in increments of $1,000
on each of the succeeding anniversaries after three months of
employment.

Now, the senior schedule which is available to all employees
requires ten years and three months of employment and every-
one is eligible for it and this provides another $25,000 of in-
surance based upon salary ranges. Again, paid for entirely by
the participants.

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Q. So the there schedules are the basic schedule, technical
men’s schedule and the senior schedule?

A. Right.
[20] Q. And the latter two were paid for entirely by the
participants?

A. Correct.

Q. Prior to January 1, 1967, was the technical men’s sche-
dule available to female employees?
No.
Why?
Because it was a technical men’s schedule.
Can you tell me why it was limited to men?
Yes.
Please tell me.
In Mass., in order to have a group life insurance plan,
it is eceuaey that 75 per cent of the eligible people subscribe
to the plan. At the time this plan was introduced in 1953, it
was determined that we could not get 75 per cent participation
if the schedule was made available to females, technical females.
How was that determined?
I don’t know.
Who made the determination?
I don’t know.
Do you know whether any studies were done?
I don’t.
[21] Q. Do you know whether anyone was asked?

A. I don’t.

Q. Do you know if any technical female personnel were
asked whether they would participate if invited?

A. I don’t.

Q. Can you tell me why the policy was changed in January
of 1967?

A. Advice of counsel.

Q. Same counsel?

A. Yes.

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Mr. Specter: Same instruction?

Mr. Grove: Same instruction.

Q. In January of 1967, was there still a requirement that
to have a group life insurance plan in Massachusetts, you had to
have a 75 per cent enrollment?

A. Yes.

Q. And did you meet that requirement?

A. Yes.

Q Have you met it ever since January ist, 1967?

A. I don’t know.

Q. Are you aware of any period during which you did not

A. No.

[22] Q. Is the requirement that there be an initial enroll-
ment of 75 per cent or that a 75 per cent figure be maintained
throughout the existence of the group?

A. I don’t know.

Q. Are you able to tell me what percentage of your tech-
nical female employees participate in what we have been refer-
ring to as the technical men’s schedule?

A. I cannot.

Q. Can you tell me who would be able to?

A. I don’t know of anybody that would be able to tell you
without—no, I don’t, I don’t know anybody.

Q. Are you aware of any way we could ascertain that in-
formation through a review of your records or otherwise?

A. I think so.

Q. Can you tell me how we could do it?

A. I honestly don’t know. I know a couple of things I
might check and that would be to see if the computer would
spew it out.

Q. What else might you check?

A. I don’t know. I would start there.

Q. Tell me, how do the employees make their payments, is
it by pay-roll deduction?

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A. Yes.
[23] Q. Whois the carrier for that group life program?
A. Liberty Life Assurance Company of Boston.
(Thereupon discussion held off the record. )
So payments are made by pay-roll deduction?
Right.
I take it you pay your employees by check?
Yes.
Are they prepared by computer?
Yes, that is why I would start there.
. Is the pay-roll check accompanied by a check stub or
a voucher of any kind?
Yes.
What is it accompanied by?
I beg your pardon?
What is it accompanied by, is it a stub?
No, it is the same size as the check, it lists all deductions.
. Does it list either by title or some code reference, the
position held by the employee?
A. No.
Q. How about the department in which the employee works?
A. It must but I don’t know. I think it must.
Q. It would certainly—
[24] A. I think it does.
Q. Okay. Is that schedule still called the technical men’s
schedule?
A. No. Technical employees’ schedule.
Q. When was that changed?
A. 1-1-67.
Q. What annual salary must an employee be paid at the
present time to be eligible for the senior schedule?
A. The same as before, the—oh, at the moment, right now?
Q. Yes.
A. We have abolished those two schedules, technical em-
ployees’ schedule and senior schedule. They are no longer in

existence.

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Because we changed our plan to a multiple of salary.
. Is that the same reason that the senior schedule was
abolished?

A. Yes.

[25] Q. What salary range did one have to reach to be eli-
gible for the senior schedule just prior to the time it was
abolished in September of 1971?

A. I believe the minimum was $4,000. It went up in
different steps to a maximum of 20.

Q. Is it your testimony then that the amount of coverage
available under the senior schedule depended upon the salary
of the particular employee?

A. That’s correct. After ten years and three months of
employment.

Q. How long prior to September, 1971, did you have that
basic life insurance program in effect?

Do you mean with the basic schedule?

With the three schedules.

The technical employees’ schedule—

All of them.

Since July 3rd, 1953 or July 1. I think it is the 3rd.

. How was your group life program changed in September
of 1971?

A. Changed to a multiple of salary.

Q. Explain how that works.

A. Two-and-a-half times salary, rounded to the nearest
thousand dollars, maximum of $150,000 in coverage, not salary.
[26] Q. Who pays for that coverage?

A. The company and the employee.

Q. Who pays how much?

Q. Technical employees’ is no longer in existence?
A. Right.

Q. When was that abolished?

A. September, 1971.

Q. Why?

A.

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A. Company pays 60 per cent and the employee pays 40
per cent. The company still pays for the first $3,000 of coverage
in full.

Does Liberty Mutual have a mandatory retirement age?
Yes.

What is it?

65.

Does that apply to all employees?

Yes.

Has that always been the case?

Since 1934. I don’t know what it was prior to that.

Does Liberty Mutual have an income protection plan?
Yes.

Would you describe it for me?

Those people who have been with us less than five
years 5 ond more than three months for disability extending be-
yond the eighth day, calendar day, disabled employee will re-
ceive income protection benefits under an insured plan for 103
weeks. The first week of that disability is paid for in full by
the company.

[27] The insured benefit is two-thirds of salary to a maximum
of $150 a week.

Salary supplement that pays half the difference for as many
weeks as years of completed service.

But people who have been with over five years, they receive
two-thirds of their salary to a maximum of $275 a week.

To age 65, same salary supplement paying one-half of the
difference between the insured amount and full salary for as
many weeks as years of completed service.

There are offsets on the both of these plans, Social Security
benefits or Workmen’s Comp. benefits.

Q. Does the income protection plan cover disability related
to pregnancy?

A. No.

Q. Are there any other disabilities that it doesn’t cover?

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A. Any disability that is not established by medical evi-
dence.

Q. Any other?

A. I can’t think of any.

Q. Can you tell me why it doesn’t apply to pregnancy?

A. On advice of counsel.

Q. Same counsel?

[28] A. Same counsel.
Mr. Grove: Same objection.

Q. In computing the waiting period of five years and three
months that you referred to earlier, do you include periods of

leaves of absence due to pregnancy?
A. May I ask you a question?
Q. Yes.

A. Are you talking about—income protection plan, is this
what you are referring to?

Q. That is a five-year waiting period, is it?

A. No. We have three year income protection plan if you
have been with us more than three months and less than five
years.

And the long-term disability which can run from maybe
age 30 to 65, would begin after five years of employment.

Q. In computing the five years of employment, do you
include periods during which a female employee is absent due
to pregnancy?

A. If she is on a pregnancy leave of absence, yes.

Q. How long has that been your policy?

A. Since we established the pregnancy leave.

Q. I take it that when your policy was to require a preg-
nant female to terminate her employment, you did not [29] in-
clude in your computation of waiting periods, any time between
the date of termination and the date of re-employment if the
employee was—

A. They start that when they are re-employed except we
waive the three-month waiting period.

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Q. If I understand you correctly, if you had a female em-
ployee who was in your employ for ten years, she became preg-
nant, she would have been required to terminate her employ-
ment?

A. Correct.

Q. Then if she reapplied for employment and there was a
position available and she was rehired, she would have lost
whatever time had accrued under your income protection plan?

A. That’s correct.

Q. Are you aware of any areas of employee benefits of-
fered by Liberty Mutual where the benefits afforded to male
employees are not the same as those afforded to female em-
ployees?

A. lam not.

(Thereupon discussion held off the record. )

Q. Are you aware of the policy of Liberty Mutual Insur-
ance Company not to hire as claims adjusters or claims repre-
sentatives, persons who had similar experience with other [30]
insurance companies?

A. [heard it, I have heard of that.

Q. Where did you hear that?

A. Well, I don’t know. Maybe it was one of these depo-
sitions.

Q. If I were to tell you that Mr. Grove made the statement
at Mr. Raymond's deposition, would that ring a bell?

A. It wouldn't surprise me if that is where I heard it but
I am sure I heard it before that. I don’t know when or where.

Q. With the exception of claims representative and claims
adjuster, are you aware of any other positions for which Liberty
Mutual Insurance Company does not hire persons who have
had similar experience with other insurance companies?

A. No.

Q. Does Liberty Mutual Insurance Company have a form
of employment application which it uses throughout the country?
A. No.

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Q. Did it ever?

A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. Do you know whether Liberty Mutual Insurance Com-
pany maintains records of the time worked by its
for which it pays overtime? ; oO
[31] A. Yes.

Q. Where are those records maintained?

A. They eventually find their way to the division office
athe “a yon by the administrative manager of
ivision. on’t know how lon are kept i
local office. a - Sores
Q. Are there also records maintained at the home office?

A. For home office employees, yes, by the administrative
manager in the home office.
Q. Tell me what form the records of overtime take
A. It is a time slip, we call it a record of time sli
lieve we call it that. aia
Q. Under what circumstances is that slip completed?
A. By or for all nonexempt people.
Q. But when is it completed? Is it only completed when
they work overtime? Is one completed every pay period?
Every pay period.
Without regard to whether overtime is worked?
Correct.
That is for all employees who are not exempt?
Yes.
Everywhere in the country?
. That is my understanding.
(32] Q. So then if a nonexempt employee works no over-
time, a time record slip is prepared reficcting that fact?
A. No. I think in that instance, I could be wrong, but
I believe in that instance it is prepared by the supervisor who
records no overtime for the unit, lists the names and signs them.
I believe this is done in some offices or some jurisdictions be-
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Wage and Hour Law that requires us to keep the forms in
a little different fashion.

Q. Do you know how it is done here in Pittsburgh?

A. No.

Q. Can you tell me for which positions in the technical
area of the claims department these time record slips are
prepared?

A. Well, for nonexempt people.

Q. Tell me which ones they are.

A. All the clerical people—

Q. I am talking about the technical people only.

A. Oh. CR’s.

Q. Which others?

A. Adjusters during the training period up until such time
as they become exempt.

Q. Any others?

[33] A. Not to my knowledge. There could be but I don't
know of any.

Q. Then to the best of your knowledge, Liberty Mutual
treats only claims representatives and adjuster trainees as non-
exempt technical personnel?

A. That's correct.

Q. When does a claim adjuster become exempt?

A. Whenever the department exempts them. I don’t know
when that is.

Q. Who would know?

A. Mr. Carr would know.

Q. Okay.

A. He prepares the exemption card or someone on his staff.

Q. Do you know what criteria are applied in determining
when an adjuster becomes exempt?

A. I assume when he is finished his training, sometime
beyond that.

Q. At least there is some period of time during which
adjusters are not considered as exempt employees by Liberty
Mutual Insurance Company?

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A. That's correct.

Q. That is at least during the training period?

A. That's correct.

[34] Q. Which is a minimum of a six-week program?

A. I believe a minimum of six.

Q. Have you been told whether salary is one of the
criteria that is applied in determining whether an adjuster is
treated as exempt by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company?

A. No more than any other job where salary would be a
criteria, under the Wage and Hour Law.

Q. I am asking you whether you have been told whether
it is considered at all.

No, I don’t think so. You mean as the definite criteria?
No, one of the criteria.

Oh, sure.

You have been told that?

Yes.

Are you aware that it is one of the criteria?

Yes.

Q. Is it your understanding that until a claim adjuster
reaches a certain salary level, he is not treated as an exempt
employee by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company?

A. He would have to qualify salary-wise.

Q. So adjusters who do not qualify are not, salary-wise
that is, they are not considered exempt employees by Liberty
[35] Mutual?

I would assume so.

Is that your understanding?

Yes, if they don’t meet the salary qualification.
Have you been told that by anyone?

Pardon?

Have you been told that by anyone?

Not in that context.

Okay. Are any of the clerical employees considered
or treated 28 exempt employees by Liberty Mutual Insurance
Company?

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A. No.

©. Are you familiar with the form which has been used
by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company which is numbered
PERS, for personnel, I assume, 195-R5.

A. Not by number.

Q. Are you familiar with the exemption form, a copy of
which was marked at Mr. Penney’s deposition?

A. The green card?

Q. Right.

A. Yes.

Q. Just so the record is clear, I'll show you what was
marked as Penney Deposition Exhibit No. 1 and ask you to
tell [36] me if that is a copy of the green card you have re-
ferred to.

A. Yes.

Q. How long has that card been used by Liberty Mutual
Insurance Company?

A. Ihave no idea.

Q. How long, to your knowledge, has it been in use, when
is the first time you became aware of its use?

A. I don’t know.

Q. Is it still in use?

A. Yes.

Q. Are you familiar with the Personnel Policies and Pro-
cedures Manual referred to on the green exemption card?

A. Yes.

Q. Can you tell me the names of those persons who have a
copy of them?

A. No.

Q. Would Mr. Raymond have one?

A. I don’t know.

Q. Can you tell me whether that would be a manual that
Mr. Raymond referred to at his deposition?

A. I don’t remember, unless you can read me what he said.

Q. Page 40, the question was asked, Ill show this to Mr.
Grove—to your knowledge, Mr. Raymond, does Liberty [37]

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Mutual have any manual describing Liberty Mutual's personnel
policies and then there is an objection and some conversation
between Messrs. Brown and Grove and the response is, yes,
there is a manual, personnel manual applying to all departments.

A. That is what he was referring to.

Mr. Specter: Mr. Grove, do you have any objection to pro-
ducing that when you produce Mr. Raymond?

Mr. Grove: Not if he has it.

Mr. Specter: As of April 5, 1972, he had it.

Mr. Grove: He said there was one in the office, he didn’t
say he had it.

Mr. Specter: Will you produce it if it is in the Pittsburgh
office?

Mr. Grove: If he is available.

(Thereupon discussion held off the record.)

You don’t have a copy with you?

I do not, no.

You do have a copy of the manual, however, I take it?
Oh, yes.

Are those manuals supplemented from time to time?

Yes.

[38] Q. Are they loose-leaf?

A. Well, it is in a Acco base binder.

Q. I would like you to look at what was marked at Mr.
Phillips’ deposition as Phillips’ Deposition Exhibit No. 1, please
take your time and read that.

A. Yes.

Q. Can you identify it for me?

A. Yes, I wrote it.

Q. That doesn’t identify it.

A. Memorandum addressed to the administrative managers
and the subject is Federal Wage and Hour Law-Payment of
Overtime, dated March 30th, 1970.

Q. Do you remember writing it?

A. No. I remember I wrote it, though.

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Q. Do you remember the circumstances under which you
wrote it?

A. No.

Q. Are you familiar with the policy described in the memo-
randum?

A. Yes.

Q. Incidentally, are supervising claims representatives treated
as exempt employees by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company?
[39] Your memo indicates as of March 30th, 1970, super-
vising claims representatives and claims representatives super-
visor were treated as exempt employees.

Yes.

That is two-and-a-half years ago?

Yes. Oh, you mean presently, currently?

Yes.

Yes, as far as I know.

Now, were you aware as of the date of your memo-
randum, that—strike.

Tell me what efforts were made by Liberty Mutual Insurance
Company to advise claims representatives who had been treated
as exempt employees prior to March 15th, 1970, that after that
date, they would be entitled to overtime pay for any overtime
worked.

I don’t know.
Do you know whether there were any?
I do not.
Who would know?
Mr. Carr, some member of his staff.
Do you know why the position was changed to an
onenet position in March of 1970?
A. Yes.
[40] Q. Tell me why.

A. Advice of counsel.

Q. Did you discuss that matter with counsel?

A. I think I probably did. I have no recollection of such
a conversation but I think I probably did.

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Q. How do you know it was on advice of counsel?

A. Responsibility of counsel to determine which jobs are
classified as exempt and nonexempt.

Do you have personal knowledge of that?

Yes.

Who advised you that the position should be declassified?
Counsel.

To what department, if any, is counsel attached?

Home office legal department.

Q. In March of 1970, was counsel attached to the home
office claims department?

A. No.

Q. Now, your memorandum states that the home office
claims department has informed us, et cetera. Can you tell
me who in the home office claims department, if anyone, you
were referring to?

A. Either Mr. Carr or Mr. Phillips, I don’t remember
[41] which.

Q. Can you tell me what either or both of those geutlemen
told you about the declassification?

A. Not beyond what is in the memorandum.

Q. Were you present at that part of Mr. Carr’s deposition
when he testified that around Augusi of 1971, there was a de-
cision inade to actively recruit claims representatives as claims
adjusters?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, were you familiar with that decision prior to the
time that you heard Mr. Carr testify about it?

I knew of it.

Pardon.

I knew of it, yes.

When did you first learn of it?

I would guess about the time the decision was made.
Do you recall learning of it?

Not as a specific event.

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What was the first thing you heard about it?
I don’t remember.
Who was the first person to tell you about it?
I don’t remember.
. What is the first recollection that you do have [42] con-
cerning that subject?

A. I guess a discussion involving Mr. Carr and Mr. Phillips.
I don’t remember when or where, whether in Mr. Carr’s office
or my Office.

Q. But you do recall it was in Boston at the company’s
office?

A. Yes.

Q. Can you tell me whether it was prior to September of
1971?

A. I think so.

Q. Okay. Can you tell me whether it was before the final
decision to actively recruit claims representatives was made?

A. No.

Q. No, you can’t tell me or no, it wasn’t it?

A. I don’t know.

Q. Were you consulted in any way concerning that de-
cision, was your advice solicited?

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A. No.
Q. No one asked your opinion about it?
A. No.

Q. Do you know whether it was before or after Mrs.
Wetzel and Mrs. Ross were offered the position of claims
adjuster?

[43] A. My memory is that it was before but I can’t be sure.

Q. Would you tell me everything you recall about that
discussion?

A. The recollection that I have at the moment is that it
would be determined we would offer qualified CR’s to become
reclassified as claims adjusters.

(Thereupon the record was read.)

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Q. Have you heard your answer read back?

A. Yes.

Q. Now I take it from that that the decision to offer the
reclassification as you put it to qualified CR’s had already
been made by the time of this conversation and I ask that
because you say that the only recollection you have is that it
had been determined.

A. I am trying to remember. I might very well have been
in on some of the preliminary discussions leading up to this
decision but I have no recollection of it.

Q. If you were in on any of those preliminary discussions,
if there were any, would you have a record of them?

A. No.

Q. Do you have any record of this discussion that you
have just mentioned?

A. No.

[44] Q. You have no recollection of this meeting?

A. Meeting or meetings, I don’t know.

Q. What is the next recollection you have concerning the
decision to recruit CR’s as claims adjusters?

A. I don’t have any.

Q. Were you involved at all in implementing or carrying
out that decision?

A. No.

Q. Can you tell me what steps Liberty Mutual Insurance
Company took to communicate to its claims representatives
throughout the country the fact that that decision had been
made?

No.

Do you know whether there were any such steps?

No.

Do you know that there were not?

No.

. Are you familiar with the duties performed by claims
representatives?

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A. No. |
Q. Are you familiar with the duties performed by claims
adjusters?
A. No.

[45] Q. So if I were to ask you to compare or contrast
those two positions, you wouldn't be able to do it, is that right?

A. Based upon what I have heard in these depositions, but
if you are asking my personal knowledge today, what an ad-
juster does and what a CR does—

Q. You don’t know?

A. Idon’t know. I know what they did 18 or 20 years ago,
an adjuster, but—

Q. You have also been present at depositions where there
has been testimony concerning interviews of claims representa-
tives for the purpose of considering them for the position of
claims adjuster, is that right?

A. There has been testimony about this.

Q. Yes. You heard that testimony?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, what I want to know is prior to hearing the
testimony, were you aware that those interviews had been con-
ducted or that they were being conducted?

A. Yes.

Q. You are aware then that at some point, the decision was
made to determine which of Liberty Mutual’s claims represen-
tatives were qualified to perform as claims adjusters?

A. Yes.

[46] ©. When did you learn of that decision?

A. I don’t know.

Q. What is the first recollection you have of that decision?

A. At the time that I became aware of the fact that they
had decided to offer qualified claims representatives reclassifica-
tion as claims adjusters.

Q. Was it at that time that you also learned they were
going to review the various claims representatives for that

purpose?

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A. Yes.

Q. Was that at the same meeting that you had referred to
earlier?

A. I can’t say it was at the same meeting but I believe
it was about the same time.

Q. Then that is something that you forget to tell me earlier
when I asked you your recollection of the decision to recruit
claims representatives.

A. I thought you were talking about the decision that they
would do it, not about that part of it, but I am sorry if I over-
looked it. No intention to.

Q. Can you tell me what steps were taken to determine
which of the claims representatives would became claims [47]
adjusters?

A. No.

Q. You have no personal knowledge of that other than
what you have heard at depositions?

A. That's correct. .

Q. Other than what you have heard at depositions, are you
able to tell me how many claims representatives were offered
the position of claims adjuster?

A. I can’t.

Q. Are you able to tell me from what—strike.

Are you able to tell me from your personal knowledge or
from what you have been told by anyone at Liberty Mutual,
how the salaries of claims representatives were affected when
they became claims adjusters?

A. No.
Q. You have never been told?
A. No.

Q. Do you know whether they started as claims adjusters
at the prevailing salary for claims adjusters?

A. No, I don’t from my own knowledge.

Q. Have you been told?

A. I don’t know whether I was or whether I assumed that
they did. I don’t know.

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[48] Q. You are the person who has custody of the personnel
files of the various Liberty Mutual personnel, is that right?

A. Technical only.

Q. Technical only?

A. Yes.

Q. Can you tell me what materials are in those files, by
subject matter?

A. It varies by department but generally we have in those
jackets—

Q. Let’s limit ourselves now to the claims representatives.

A. We would have a copy of the application, a copy of the
reference material or the original of the references, original
of the application, what we call a notice of personnel change
which is created whenever the position is changed or the office
is changed or the name is changed of an employee, we would
have the employment copy as well as a termination copy for
terminating employees.

That is about what we would have on an active file. I can
think of no other information that would be in all of the jackets.

Q. How about the periodic reports—

A. We don’t get those.
[49] Q. Where are those kept?
Home office.
You are in the home office?
Home office claims department.
Do you know what is in those files?
I do not.
You are aware that certain claims representatives were
offered the position of claims adjuster, is that right?

A. Not by name.

Q. But you know that certain—

A. There was a group of them.

Q. You know that certain various claims representatives
were offered the position?

A. Yes.

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Q. And you know that certain of them accepted the posi-
tion and some did not accept the position?

A. I have been told that.

Q. Do you know whether the fact that the position had
been offered, would be contained in the personnel file that
you have or that the claims department has for the various
claims representatives?

A. No, wouldn't have a record of those that were offered
the opportunity to become—

[50] Q. Do you know whether there is such a record?

A. I do not.

Q. Have you been told?

A. I have not.

Q. You are aware also that—strike.

You are aware statements have been taken from various
claims adjusters and claims representatives?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you know whether copies of those statements are in
the files of the employees?

A. Not in mine. Not in the personnel jackets in my custody.
Q. Do you know whether they are in the others?

A. Idon't.

Q. Have you been told?

A. Ihave not.

Q.

When did you first learn that those statements were
going to be taken or that they had been taken?
A. I have no idea.

Q. You don’t know whether you knew in advance that
they were going to be taken?

A. I don’t.
Q. Have you seen those statements?
[S51] A. Yes.

Q. Have you read them?
A. Yes, some of them.
Q. How many?

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I don’t know. I would guess five, ten.
Can you tell me why you read them?
1 guess because they were given to me and I read them.
By whom were they given to you?
I don’t know. Dan Phillips, I guess.
Do you know why they were given to you?
Well, in connection with this.
Did you read all of those that were given to you?
No. ’
Were they all given to you?
No.
Approximately how many were given to you?
15, maybe.
Can you tell me who took the statements that you read?
Larrabee, Jack Larrabee and Bill Herrick.
Did the statements of Mr. Larrabee follow the same
format?
A. Well, they were written statements without a form or
anything, just a written statement.
[52] Q. I understand that.
A. I don’t think there is any particular format. I don’t
understand really what you mean.
Q. Were you able to tell that the statement consisted of
responses to various questions?
A. Oh, yes.
Q. And was it generally true that the same questions were
being answered in each of the statements?
A. In general.
Q. Was it generally true that the same questions were being
answered in the same order in each of the statements?
I can’t recall that.
In whose handwriting were the various statements?
I don’t know.
Were they in the same handwriting?
No.

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Q. That is all of Mr. Larrabee’s statements?

A. I think so. I am not acutely aware of the handwriting.

Q. Is it also true that the same questions were being
answered in the statements taken by Mr. Herrick?

A. As in Mr. Larrabee’s?

Q. Well, let’s restrict ourselves to Mr. Herrick’s.

A. Yes, I think so, followed the same general thing.
[53] Q. Did the statements taken by Mr. Herrick follow the
same general theme as the statements taken by Mr. Larrabee?

A. I would think so.

Q. That is your recollection?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, were the statements that you read, taken from
claims adjusters only?

A. I don’t know. I don’t remember.

Q. What subject matters were covered in these statements?

Mr. Grove: Don’t answer the question. Same reason as I
stated in Boston. It was prepared at my request and Mr. Pen-
ney’s request and we claim they are attorney work products.
You have a motion pending for their production right now
plus the fact that obviously what Mr. Spaulding could tell you
would be secondary evidence.

The statements themselves are the best evidence and since
you have a motion to produce, I suggest we restrict it to that.
We'll respond to that.

Q. Mr. Spaulding, you are familiar with the Want A Job
Fit For A Queen brochure, are you not?

A. I have seen it.

Q. You were present at the deposition when I asked who
[54] prepared it, weren’t you?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you know who prepared it?

A. Ido not.

Mr. Specter: Mr. Grove, you undertook to find out who
prepared it and when it was in use and whether it is in use now?

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Mr. Grove: Mr. Specter, I know it is not in use. When it
was in use, I have not yet determined and I have not even come
anywhere close to finding out who the author of it was. No
one seems to know.

Q. Do you know how the form was used, Mr. Spaulding?

A. No, I do not. I had nothing to do with it.

Q. Other than what you have heard at the depositions, do
you have any knowledge about this form?

A. No.

Q. You were present during the testimony to the effect
that at some point in 1970 or 1971, the home office began to
receive feedback to the effect that claims representatives were
interested in the position of claims adjuster?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, other than what you have heard at depositions,
[55] do you have any information about that feedback?

A. No, I don't

Q. Were you aware of that prior to the deposition?

A. No.

Q. You know, you have also heard testimony that women
didn’t appear to be interested in the position of claims adjuster
and men didn’t appear to be interested in the position of claims
representative. Do you have any knowledge or information
concerning those statements?

A. None whatsoever.

Q. So you wouldn't be able to tell me whether those were
accurate observations or not?

A. I would not.

Q. Now, I understand from earlier testimony that you are
the individual who answers or at least receives inquiries con-
cerning former technical employees of Liberty Mutual Insur-
ance Company, is that correct?

A. Former employees?

Q. Yes.

A. They come to my department, not me personally.

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Q. Who receives the questions for former clerical employ-
ees?

A. They go to the office in which the person worked,
[56] generally, but they are forwarded to the administrative
manager in the division.

Q. Who answers them?

A. The administrative manager.

Q. What level are reference requests concerning former
technical employees answered?

A. At the home office level, my department.

Q. But not by you personally?

A. That's correct.

Q. Do you approve the responses or do you see them before

they go out?
A. Ido not.

Q. How long has it been the practice for the reference
requests concerning former technical employees to come to
your department?

A. Well, they came to the home office to be answered by a
department that existed prior to the establishing of the per-
sonnel services which was established in 1960.

Prior to that time, we had a department known as personnel
policy and research which went out of existence and as near
as I can tell, that goes back into the '40’s and I don’t know
how much sooner than that.

Q. Do you know why it is the practice to direct reference
[57] requests for former technical employes to the home office
rather than to the various divisions?

A. Yes, because the divisions don’t have the technical
personnel jackets. They are maintained in the home office.

Q. Have you ever met Sandra Wetzel?

A. Yes.

Q. When was the first time?

A. I think it was August of 1971. Yes, August of 1971,
I believe.

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Where did you meet?

Pittsburgh, our office.

Who else was present?

Mr. Penney.

Anyone else?

Mrs. Ross.

Was that also when you first met Mrs. Ross?
Yes.

I take it you met them together, then?

Yes.

When was the next time you met them?
Either of them?

Yes.

Yesterday.

[S58] Q. Since the summer of 1971, you have not personally
seen either Mrs. Wetzel or Mrs. Ross, is that right?

A. Last Friday, I was on the elevator at the 12th floor
and I stopped at the 10th and I think I saw Mrs. Wetzel stand-
ing in the lobby. I am not sure.

Q. That would be the only time?

A. Yes.

Q. Would you have some record of the date on which you
first met Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross?

A. The only one I could think of would be my expense
account or my last year’s diary.

Q. Who introduced you to Mrs. Wetzel and to Mrs. Ross?

A. Mr. Penney.

Q. Do you know whether he had met them prior to that
time?

A. I believe he had.

Q. Did he tell you that he had?

A. Yes.

Q. Under what circumstances did he tell you he had met
Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross?

A. I don’t know that I understand what you mean.

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Q. Did Mr. Penney tell you the circumstances under which
he met Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross?
[59] A. In connection with the complaint to the Pennsyl-
vania Commission.

Q. Do you know when Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross were
told they were going to meet you?

A. No.

Q. What was the purpose, if there was one, of your meeting
Mrs. Wetzel or Mrs. Ross?

A. The purpose was, Mr. Penney was going to discuss
their complaint with them.

Q. What was the purpose of Mr. Penney’s first meeting with
them?

A. I assume it was in connection with their complaint.

Q. You were not there? 7

A. Right.

Q. Can you tell me why you were there at this other
meeting?

A. I guess because—I was there because I was there, I
guess.
Q. What were you supposed to do there?

A. I didn’t do anything.

Q. I didn’t ask you what you did. I asked you what you
were supposed to do.

A. Accompany Mr. Penney.
[60] Q. And listen to what was said?

A. Yes.

Q. For some particular purpose?

A. No, except this is in my general area of interest and
responsibility, complaints against the company.

Q. Did you say anything to either Mrs. Ross or Mrs. Wetzel
during the course of the meeting?

A. Other than to acknowledge the introduction, I have no
memory of saying anything to either one of them except to say

good-bye.

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Is it your recollection ihat you did not say anything?
Yes.
How long did that meeting last?
It was brief. I would think not over 15 minutes.
Was there any time during the meeting that Mrs. Wetzel
and Mrs. Ross were not both present?

A. No.

Q. Was there any time during the meeting that the four
of you were not all present, that is you, Mr. Penney and Mrs.
Ross and Mrs. Wetzel?

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A. No.
Q. Where at your Pittsburgh office did the meeting take
place?

[61] A. My recollection is on the 16th floor, claims training
classroom.

Tell me everything you remember about that meeting.
I recall Mr. Penney telling them that the company
would not do certain things that they are asking. One was to
pay them the same amount of money as was being paid to
claims adjusters.

I recall that he offered them the opportunity to be reclassified
as claims adjusters.

Q. What else do you remember?

A. That is it, as far as I know, as far as I can recall.

Q. You say that Mr. Penney told Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs.
Ross that the company would not do certain things, is that
right?

A. Yes.

Q. One of those things was pay claims representatives the
same as Claims adjusters?

A. Right.

Q. Did you make any notes concerning that meeting?
A. I did not.

Q. Do you know whether Mr. Penney did?

A. Ido not.

Q.

A.

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Q. Were there any other things he said the company would
not do?

[62] A. I don’t know. I don’t remember anything else.

Q. Did Mr. Penney offer to pay Mrs. Wetzel back pay?

A. No.

Q. Did he offer Mrs. Ross back pay?

A. No.

Q. Tell me to the best of your recollection, just what Mr.
Penney said when he offered the position of claims adjuster
to Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross.

A. I think I have.

Q. Well, tell me again.

A. He said that he would offer them the opportunity to be
reclassified as claims adjusters.

Q. Well, did he say anything about their qualifications for
the position?

Not to my recollection.

Did he say that their work had been reviewed?

I don’t remember.

Did he say that the company felt they could do the
job

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I think he must have but I have no definite recollection of
the wends he used or written notes of the conversation itself
but I think he probably did.

Q. You are positive that he used the word reclassified?
[63] A. That is my memory.

Q. Do you have a specific recollection of his saying that?

A. Yes, I think I do.

Q. Did he extend the offer to Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross
simultaneously?

A. Yes.

Q. Was there any discussion of the complaints that Mrs.
Wetzel and Mrs. Ross had?

A. No, not by Mr. Penney.

Q. By anyone?

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A. My recollection is, it was testified yesterday that Mrs.
Ross and Mrs. Wetzel, they referred to the fact that the oppor-
tunity to become claims adjusters was not the whole basis of
their complaint.

Q. It is your recollection that they did say that?

A. Yes.

Q. When you came to Pittsburgh to meet with Mrs. Wetzel
and Mrs. Ross, did you know that Mr. Penney was going
to offer them the position of claims adjuster?

A. Yes.

Q. So when you told me that the purpose of the meeting
was for Mr. Penney to discuss their complaints, that was not
[64] the whole purpose of the meeting?

That was their complaint.

That was one of their complaints, was it not?

Yes.

You knew that was not their only complaint, didn’t you?
Well, I knew that their complaint, as far as I was con-
corned at that time, I understood their complaint to be they
wanted to be outside claims adjusters and they felt the CR’s
should be paid the same amount of money as outside claims
adjusters. That was my understanding of their complaint at the
time we visited them in Pittsburgh.

Q. Prior to your meeting in Pittsburgh, had you read the
complaint that was filled with the Pennsylvania Human Relations
Commission?

A. I am sure I did. I have no recollection when but I
am sure I did.

Q. Did Mr. Penney tell Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross at that
meeting that—strike.

At that meeting, did Mr. Penney tell Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs.
Ross anything about the company’s attitude toward women gen-
erally as claims adjusters?

A. I think he may have said something to the effect that
the company felt that the job of claims adjuster was not
[65] ideally suited to women.

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Q. Is it your recollection that he said that?

A. Something to that effect, yes.

Q. Did he go into any detail, did he say why it wasn’t
suited to women?

A. Well, I don’t believe so, perhaps other than beyond a
very brief reference to the type of work that an adjuster does
and the places he goes, there was a brief reference to this.

Q. You are sure there was some reference?

A. Yes, Iam.

Q. Did he indicate that that had been a long-standing
attitude?

A. Yes.

Q. Did he indicate whether it might be changed in the
future but that it would take a long time to change?

A. I don’t remember that.

Q. How did Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross respond? I would
like you to tell me separately for each of them.

A. My memory is they both said no. Then one of them, I
don’t remember which one, but I think it was Mrs. Wetzel
expanded on their reason for saying no.

Q. And what did she say?

A. Words to the effect that accepting the job of adjuster
[66] would not solve the basis for their complaint, words to
that effect. I would not resolve the basis for their complaint,
something of that nature.

Q. Did they go into any more detail?

A. Not thatI recall.

Q. Did they tell you what the basis of their complaint
was or what the bases were?

A. They may have referred to the fact that they felt that
would not—the other issue involved was the equal pay for
the claims representative and the outside adjuster.

Q. You were aware by the time of this meeting, were you
not, that Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross were claiming that Liberty
Mutual treated female employees differently than it treated
its male employees?

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I was aware of the complaint of the Commission.

And you were aware that was the basis of the complaint?
Yes.

Now, you were present, yesterday, weren’t you when
Mrs. Ross testified that when Mr. Penney extended the offer,
he asked that the fact of the meeting be kept confidential?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, I want to be fair with you. When that testimony
[67] was given, I observed Mr. Penney ask you whether you
remembered that and I observed your reply that you didn’t know.
Do you have any recollection of Mr. Penney’s making that
statement at that meeting?

A. Ihave none.

Q. Are you able to testify today under oath that he did
not make it?

A. I can’t believe that he made it but I can’t tell you that
I can positively say he did.

Q. So you are not in a position to say that he did or did
not make it of your own knowledge?

A. Idon’t think he made it.

Q. Let’s have the question again.

(Thereupon the record was read.)

A. How can I answer it other than to say I don’t think he
made it.

Q. Let me tell you I am not interested at this point whether
you believe he did or did not make the statement but whether
you can testify under oath whether he did or did not.

A. I can't.

Q. You cannot?

A. That’s right.

Q. Have you discussed with Mr. Penney whether he made
[68] that statement?

A. Yes.

Q. And what did he say?

OPor

Mr. Grove: Don’t answer it. Attorney-client relationship.

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Q. When did you discuss that with Mr. Penney?

A. Last evening.

Q. Where?

A. I don’t remember. Whether at dinner or in the room
or walking up to the office or walking to the hotel or where.

Q. Under what circumstances did you discuss it?

A. Well, I guess you would have to say I was telling him
that I had no recollection of such a statement and I honestly
don’t believe that he made it.

Q. Was it during preparation for your testimony today
that you discussed it with Mr. Penney?

A. No.

Q. Was it in connection with some particular thing that he
was doing or you were doing in connection with this case?

A. Well, the testimony, I guess it was just in reviewing the
testimony from yesterday.

Q. Was anyone else present when you discussed it with Mr.
Penney?

[69] A. Mr. Grove.

Q. Anyone else?

A. No.

Q. At that meeting, did Mr. Penney discuss with Mrs. Ross
and Mrs. Wetzel, why the company would not pay claims
representatives on the same scale as claims adjusters?

A. Other than the fact I believe he said they were two
different jobs.

Q. Is it your recollection?

A. That is what he said.

Q. Did he explain what was different about the jobs?

A. No, not to my recollection.

Q. Did he offer any explanation concerning what made the
jobs different?

A. No.

Q. Did he tell them what their salary would be if they
accepted the positions?

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A. I don’t recall.
Q. Now, you have testified that prior to the time when

you met with Mr. Penney and Mrs. Ross and Mrs. Wetzel,
Mr. Penney met with them. Now, did Mr. Penney report to
you the results of his first meeting?

A. No.

[70] Q. Were you present in Boston on September 26, 1972
when Mr. Penney testified under oath that he reported his
findings to both you and Mr. Carr?

A. Yes. I was present when he reported to Mr. Carr but
he didn’t report to me. He reported to Mr. Carr.

Q. So his testimony that he reported to you was inaccurate?

A. No, not in a sense that I was there and I heard the
report. I was present when he reported the conversation to
Mr. Carr. I thought you meant did he come to me and
report it.

Q. Was anyone else present when Mr. Penney reported to
you or Mr. Carr or both?

A. Not to my memory.

Q. If I were to suggest to you that the meeting that you
attended with Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross and Mr. Penney took
place in July of 1971, would that refresh your recollection?

A. No. I know it was sometime in July or August or
September, it was in that period of time. I don’t remember when.
I don’t remember which month.

(Thereupon a short recess was taken.)

Q. Was the meeting that you had with Mrs. Ross and Mrs.
Wetzel, recorded?

A. No.

[71] Q. Do you know what steps, if any, were taken by
anyone acting on behalf of Liberty Mutual to determine whether
Mrs. Ross and Mrs. Wetzel were qualified to be reclassified, as
you put it, prior to the time the job was offered?

A. No.

Q. Have you been told any steps were taken?

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A. I was told that they were going to appraise their work.
How they went about it, who did it, I don’t know.
That was before the time the offer was made?
Yes.
How long before?
I don’t recall.
Who told you their work was going to be appraised?
Who told me?
Yes.
I would guess Ed Carr.
Was it your recollection that he told you that?
Either Ed Carr or Dan Phillips.
Is it your understanding that someone did appraise
Mrs. Wetzel’s work and Mrs. Ross’ work prior to the time it
was decided to offer them the position?

A. Yes.

Q. Have you been told the results of that appraisal?
[72] A. No.

Q. Have you been told whether their work was found to
be satisfactory.

A. I assumed that it was when the offer was made for
them to be reclassified. I assume their work met the standards.

Q. Are you aware Mrs. Ross requested a transfer to the
Detroit office?

A. Yes.

Q. When did you learn of that?

A. Just before or just after she terminated. I don’t remember
which.

Q. Did you at some point, learn that her request was
denied?

A. Yes.

Q. When did you learn that?

A. At the time, I guess I was told she requested it. I was
away, out of town. My memory is that I got back from a
trip somewhere and was told about this.

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Q. Since your recollection seems to be so hazy, let me
ask you to tell me everything you know about her request and
the decision to deny it.

A. All I know is she made the request and the request was
denied.

[73] Q. Were you told why it was denied.

No.

Who told you she made the request?

Either Ed Carr or Dan Phillips.

Who told you it was denied?

Either one of them.

Whichever told you she had made it?

Yes.

Did anyone tell you why the decision was made to offer
the position of claims adjuster to Mrs. Ross and Mrs.Wetzel?

A. My memory of the discussions was that was predicated
on feeling that is what they wanted to do.

Q. When Mr. Penney reported to Mr. Carr in your presence,
did he report that Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross said they wanted
to be claims adjusters?

Mr. Grove: Don’t answer the question. Attorney-client priv-
ilege.

Mr. Specter: Let me suggest something to you in the interest
of not having to burden the court. To the extent that may be
within the privilege aad I don’t know that it is, Mr. Penney has
already testified to it and I believe waived the privilege.

Mr. Grove: Mr. Penney might have [74] waived it on his
behalf but I am going to tell Mr. Spaulding not to answer the
question.

Q. Were you told that the decision to offer the position of
claims adjuster to Mrs. Ross and Mrs. Wetzel had anything to
do with the charges they brought before the Pennsylvania Human
Relations Commission?

Mr. Grove: Don’t answer the question if Mr. Penney was the
one that had the discussion with you concerning this.

Did you have a discussion with Mr. Penney concerning th*?

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Witness: In Mr. Carr’s office.
- Grove: Okay. Don’t answer the question.
Were there any other discussions other than with Mr.

Fe

A. Not in any great detail.

Q. Tell me what you do know about it.

[75] A. I know they recruit at colleges and I know they
employ through employment agencies. Our technical staff comes
from those two sources, primarily, in all departments.

Q. Since the spring of 1971, have you had occasion to
meet with any representatives of the Pennsylvania Human Rela-
tions Commission co ing the
po ag ern ncerning charges brought by Mrs. Ross
Yes.
On how many occasions?
I believe only once.
With whom did you meet?
Miss Holiday.
Where did you meet?
Pittsburgh.
Where in Pittsburgh?
Our office.
Who all was present?
Mr. Penney.
Anyone else?
No.
Was that meeting recorded?
No.
Did you make notes of it?
[76] A. No.

Q. Did Mr. Penney?

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I don’t know.

Did Miss Holliday or Mrs. Holliday—

I don’t know if it is Miss or Mrs.

Did she make notes?

I don’t know.

How long did the meeting last?

I would—my memory is less than a half-hour

Did you come to Pittsburgh from Boston for the express
purpose of attending that meeting?

A. Yes.

Q. Tell me everything you recall about the meeting.

A. I recall Mr. Penney advised Miss Holliday that he had
offered Mrs. Ross and Mrs. Wetzel the opportunity to be re-
classified as outside claims adjusters and that they had refused

Q. Anything else?

A. No.

Q. Do you recall anything that Miss Holliday said?

A. No, not in detail, I can’t recall—I know she spoke but
{ don’t remember what she said.

Q. You don’t remember the substance of anything she
said?

{77} A. No.

Did you say anything?

Gee, I probably did but I don’t remember what.

You remember none of it?

No, I don’t remember.

Prior to that meeting, the Commission had served one
or more interrogatories upon Liberty Mutual, is that right?

A. I think there were interrogatories filed and I assume it
was before the meeting. I have no date in mind as to when
they were served but I assume it was prior.

Q. Was that interrogatory discussed at the meeting?

A. Gee, it might have been. Now that you mention it, it
might have been. I have no memory of it but I think it was.

Q. Now that you have some recollection of its having been
discussed, would tell me what you recall about that dis-
cussion?

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«s. We were going to answer it, I guess, I don’t remember
whether all of it or part of it or what.
Q. Let me ask you not to guess.
A. I don't—

Mr. Grove: Answer it any way you like.

A. I don’t remember definitely.

Q. It is your recollection then that the position was [78]
taken by Liberty Mutual at that meeting that at least part of
the interrogatory would not be answered?

A. That is my memory.

Q. Who said that at the meeting?

A. Mr. Penney.

Mr. Grove: Mr. Specter, if it serves any purpose, I think
Mr. Penney mentioned we would be happy to indicate to you
we did not answer the interrogatories.

Q. Was there any discussion at that meeting of Liberty
Mutual's structure as it relates to the Pittsburgh office, that is
whether that is a regional! office or an encompassing some
broad territory?

A. I don’t recall such a conversation.

Q. Was there any discussion about whether the company
considered the job of outside adjuster as a job for women?

I don’t recall that.

Is it possible that that was discussed?

It could have been.

You have no recollection?

I have no recollection.

Do you have any recollection of Mr. Penney stating at
the meeting that the job was more suitable for men?

[79] A. No.

Q. Was there any discussion of whether there was any train-
ing for the position of claims adjuster?

A. I don’t recall any.

Q. Did Mrs. or Miss Holliday request any other information
at that meeting?

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A. Idon’t recall.

Q. Was there any discussion of Liberty Mutual's recruiting
practices?

A. I don't recall.

Q. Was there any discussion of newspaper advertisements
for prospective Liberty Mutual employees?

A. Idon’t recall.

Q. Do you know when that meeting took place?

A. Other than in sometime either in August or September,
in that general time.

Q. By that time, had—

A. I don’t recall the exact dates.

Q. Whenever the date was, had Liberty Mutual begun its
program of recruiting claims representatives as claims adjusters?

A. I don't know. It was about that time but I don’t know
which preceded what.

{80} Q. Was there any discussion at that meeting about
whether the job of outside adjuster had been offered to a
number of females?

A. I don’t recall that. I know Miss or Mrs. Holliday was
told Mr. Penney had offered the job to Mrs. Ross and Mrs.
Wetzel. I don’t recall anything about any other CR's being
involved.

Q. Did Mrs. Holiday ask why the job offer had been made
to Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross?

A. Idon’t recall if she did.

Q. Do you recall whether Mr. Penney told her that the
offer was made because of the complaint brought to the
Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission?

A. If he didn’t say those exact words, I am sure it was
in that context.

Q. Is that why the job offer was made?

A. To them, yes.

©. Were Mrs. Ross and Mrs. Wetzel told that is why the
offer was made?

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A. 1 am not sure. In so many words, I am not sure but I
am sure it was known it arose out of the complaint.

, be me rhachis ne Mrs. Holliday that the job offer
e because o i issi
caine . the complaint to the Commission—

Did he tell Mrs. Holliday that Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross
had been told that they had been offered the job because of the
complaint they had lodged?

. A. I don’t recall that part of it bui I think we all realized
it arose out of the complaint.

Q. Was there any discussion at that meeting concerning
Mrs. Ross’ and Mrs. Wetzel’s complaints about inquires into
anticipated marriage and family size—

A. I don’t recall that line of discussion at all.

Q. Are you able to testify today that there was no such
discussion at that meeting?

A. Not to my recollection.

Q. Is it your recollection there was no such discussion?

A. Ihave no recollection there was or wasn’t.
| Q. Do you have any recollection of any discussion concern-
ing inquiries about birth control pills at that meeting?

A. Same.

Q. Did Mr. Penney tell Mrs. Holliday that he was willing
to discuss a settlement with Mrs. Ross and Mrs. Wetzel?

A. Ihave no recollection of that.

Q. Did he make any statements about the attitude of the
[82] company in regard to female employees?

A. Inregard to female employees, no, as I recall.

Q. Did Mrs. Holliday ask if there was a union for the
employees?

A. Idon’t remember.

Q. Did Mr. Penney indicate whether he felt the complaint
lodged by Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross was a serious one?

A. Idon'’t recall any discussion about whether it was serious
or not serious.

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Q. Did he indicate or state to Mrs. Holliday his opinion
concerning what Mrs. Ross and Mrs. Wetzel were most in-
terested in?

A. No, not to my recollection.

Q. Was there any discussion concerning the company’s
employment policies generally at that meeting?

A. Not to my recollection.

Q. Did you report to anyone at Liberty Mutual concerning

the meeting?
A. No.
Q. Did you know whether Mr. Penney did?
A. Ido not.
Q. You are not issued a hard hat, are you?
A. No, I am not.

[83] Q. How about a brief case?

A. Ihave a brief case.

Q. Given to you by Liberty Mutual?

A. Well, it was given to me by a friend of mine at Liberty
Mutual.

Mr. Specter: That is it.

Further Examination by Mr. Grove

Q. Mr. Spaulding, you testified that you didn’t believe that
Mr. Penney made the comment to Mrs. Wetzel and Mrs. Ross
at the meeting here in Pittsburgh that they should not discuss
with anyone the offer that he was making with them. Upon
what do you base your belief?

A. Well, my memory is that—

Mr. Specter: Just a second. Do you want him to state
everything upon which he bases that belief?

Mrs. Grove: Yes.

A. My memory is that it had been decided that other CR’s
—qualified CR’s would be offered the opportunity to be re-
classified and it wouldn’t make any sense to tell them not to
talk about it because it was going to be common knowledge and

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it would be common knowledge after the offer was made to
[84] them. So I can’t believe it was said.
Mr. Grove: That is all.

Further Examination by Mr. Specter
Q. Is there any other basis for your belief?
A. No, that is it.
Q. Mr. Grove asked you to testify as to every reason you
have for not believing Mr. Penney—
A. Those are the reasons.

How about anything Mr. Penney told you?
Pardon?

How about anything Mr. Penney told you?
Mr. Penney told me?

Yes. Did he tell you that he did not make the state-

OFPOrPOoPro

ment?

Mr. Grove: Don’t answer that.

Mr. Specter: Just a second. You have asked for all of the
reasons of his belief and if something Mr. Penney said is one
of them. a complete answer requires him to state it.

Mr. Grove: Let's go back to the [85] question.

Q. The question is, did Mr. Penney tell you that he did
not make the statement?

A. I don’t think so.
Mr. Specter: Okay. That is it.

Mr. Grove: We won't waive signature. Send the original
to Mr. Spaulding.

KENNETH SPAULDING

Sworn to and subscribed to before me this ___ . day of
, 1972.

Notary Public

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[86] CERTIFICATE

COUNTY OF ALLEGHENY

I, Dorothy Johnson, a Notary Public in and for the Common-
wealth of Pennsylvania, duly commissioned and qualified, do
hereby certify that the within-named Kenneth Spaulding was
by me first duly sworn to testify the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth in the cause aforesaid; that the testimony
then given by him was by me reduced to stenotype in the pres-
ence of said witness, afterwards transcribed upon a typewriter,
and that the foregoing is a true and correct transcript of the
testimony so given by him as aforesaid.

I do further certify that this deposition was taken at the time
and place in the foregoing caption specified, and was completed
without adjournment.

I do further certify that I am not a relative, counsel or attorney
of either party, nor am I otherwise interested in the event of
this action.

In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed
my seal of office at Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on this Ist day
of November, 1972.

COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA $8

/s/ DoroTHy JOHNSON
Dorothy Johnson
Notary Public

In and for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
My Commission expires April 9, 1973.

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IN THE UNITED STATES District COURT
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DEPOSITION OF KENNETH SPAULDING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 1972

The deposition of Kenneth Spaulding, witness herein, called
by the defendant for examination under the Federal Rules of
Civil Procedure, taken before me, the undersigned, Dorothy
Johnson, a Notary Public in and for the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania, pursuant to notice, at the offices of Liberty Mutual
Insurance Company, Clark Building, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
commencing at 11:30 o’clock a.m., the day and date above set
forth. .

[2] Appearances:
On behalf of the defendant: Kalvin M. Grove, Esquire,
Chicago Title & Trust Building, 111 West Washington
Street, Chicago, Illinois 60602

PROCEEDINGS

KENNETH SPAULDING witness herein called by the defend-
ant for examination under the Federal Rules of Civil Pro-
cedure, having been first duly sworn, as hereinafter certified,
was examined and testified as follows:

Mr. Grove: This is a correction of deposition pursuant to
Rule 30(e) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

Mr. Spaulding will start and then Mr. Raymond.

Mr. Spaulding: Page 14, Line 1, the correct answer is yes.
A leave of absence has no effect of benefits of seniority.

Mr. Grove: Why are you changing it?

Mr. Spaulding: The answer is wrong as given. It is wrong
as given.

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[3] Page 15, Line 18, the correct answer is September, 1970.
I was wrong in the date of March of 1967.

Page 16, Line 19, the answer is correct on the assumption
that the question is based on September, 1970.

Page 17, Line 2, the answer is correct on the assumption that
the question is based on September, 1970.

Page 28, Line 11, change three to two. So the answer will
read no. We have a two-year income protection plan if you
have been with us more than two months and less than five
years. The reason for the change is that three is wrong.

Page 31, Line 11, the answer should be changed to read as
follows: Overtime hours for inside nonexempt personnel are
entered on a form called attendance and turnover record except
in those states that require a time slip period

Overtime hours for all outside nonexempt personnel are re-
corded on time slips. The record of overtime is prepared from
the attendance and turnover record or time slips every two
weeks for nonexempt [4] inside personnel.

If no overtime has been worked by anyone in the unit, none
is recorded by the supervisor on the form.

If overtime has been worked, the supervisor lists the names
and the hours worked of each person who has worked overtime.

The outside employee’s record of overtime worked its pre-
pared from individual time slips listing the name and hours
worked of any outside nonexempt person who worked overtime.

If no one in the unit worked overtime, the outside employee’s
record of overtime worked is not prepared.

Outside nonexempt employees complete a time slip every
pay period (two weeks) whether they work overtime or not.

We have a record-of-overtime form for nonexempt inside
employees in each department and/or office for each pay period.

We have a complete time slip for each nonexempt outside
employee for each period.

This answers all the questions asked on Pages [5] 31 and 32
on overtime in a corrected fashion.

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The reason for the change is that upon reading the answers
to those questions, I discovered they were not accurate.

Page 85, Line 4, the answer should be yes, upon reflection,
I recall that Mr. Penney did tell me that he did not make the
statement.

Mr. Grove: Dorothy, would you send the original to Mr.
Spaulding, a copy to myself and a copy to Mr. Specter and we’ll
waive signature on that and Mr. Spaulding will return to you
that and the other one, the original, so that it could be filed.

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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
* * (Caption—72-169) * *

MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT

Now Come the plaintiffs, by their attorneys, Litman Litman
Harris and Specter, P. A., and Fine, Perlow and Stone, and, on
behalf of themselves and the members of the class which they
represent, move this Honorable Court for Summary Judgment
on the issue of liability alone pursuant to Rule 56 of the Federal
Rules of Civil Procedure, as amended, as follows:

1. There is no genuine issue as to any of the following
material facts and the plaintiffs and the members of the class
which they represent are, therefore, entitled to a judgment as a
matter of law:

(a) Since July 1, 1965, defendant has discriminated in
hiring and promotion against the plaintiffs and the mem-
bers of the class represented by plaintiffs by reason of their
sex with respect to aTording or making available to them
the following positions in it Claims Department: Claims
Adjuster, Claims Supervisor, Branch Office Manager, Divi-
sion Claims Manager, Assistant Division Claims Manager,
Manager of Home Office Examiners Division, Assistant
Vice President and Vice President;

(b) Since July 1, 1965, defendant has discriminated
against the plaintiffs and the members of the class repre-
sented by plaintiffs by reason of their sex with respect to
compensation, terms, conditions and privileges of employ-
ment;

Wherefore, plaintiffs move this Honorable Court to render
summary judgment in their favor and in favor of the members
of the class which they represent on the issue of liability alone on
the matters referred to herein and to enjoin the defendant from
engaging in such practices in the future.

LITMAN LITMAN HARRIS AND SPECTER, P. A.

Attorneys for Plaintiffs

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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

The undersigned, Howard A. Specter, hereby certifies that on
the 23rd day of March, 1973, the within Motion for Summary
Judgment was served on defense counsel by mailing, postage
prepaid, true and correct copies to the offices of:

Kalvin M. Grove, Esquire

111 West Washington Street
Chicago, Illinois 60602

Robert A. Penney, Esquire

175 Berkeley Street

Boston, Massachusetts 02226
Clem R. Ky.e, Esquire

717 Liberty Avenue

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15222

Howarpb A. SPECTER

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EXHIBIT E TO PLAINTIFF'S BRIEF
FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT

IN THE UNITED STATES DisTRICT COURT
* * (Caption—72-169) * *

AFFIDAVIT OF HOWARD A. SPECTER IN SUPPORT OF
PLAINTIFFS’ MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT

Before Me, the undersigned authority, personally appeared
Howard A. Specter, who being duly sworn according to law,
deposes and says that he has personal knowledge of the follow-
ing facts and that such facts are true and correct:

1. That he is one of the attorneys for the plaintiffs in the
above-captioned action:

2. That Kenneth W. Raymond, the defendant’s Assistant
Division Claims Manager for the Central Division, and Kenneth
D. Spaulding, the defendant's Manager of Personnel Services,
testified at their depositions on April 5, 1972, and October 17,
1972, respectively, that the defendant has a Personnel Policies
and Procedures Manual which applies to all employees and
departments;

3. That Kalvin M. Grove, one of the attorneys for the
defendants in this action, agreed at the time of the depositions
to produce a copy of the aforesaid Manual and that it was agreed
that Mr. Spaulding would forward a copy of the Manual to
this counsel for the plaintiffs;

4. That the defendant delivered to this defendant the Per-
sonnel Polices and Procedures Manual a copy of which is an-
nexed to the Plaintiffs’ Brief in Support of Motion for Summary
Judgment as Exhibit H and represented it to be the Manual
referred to at the depositions;

5. That in response to plaintiffs’ Requests for Production
of Documents, the defendant agreed to produce copies of the

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Claims Representative training manuals described in its answer
8.3(a) through (d) to Plaintiffs’ Interrogatories to Defendant
—Second Set and that the documents annexed to the Plaintiffs’
Brief in Support of Motion for Summary Judgment as Exhibit
Q are true and correct copies of the cover and first seven pages
of the first of those manuals;

6. That in response to plaintiffs’ Request for Production
of Documents the defendant agreed to produce and did produce
copies of the Claims Adjuster recruitment brochures described
in its Answers to Interrogatories 37(f) and 38.2(a) through
(d) and that the documents annexed to the Plaintiffs’ Brief
in Support of Motion for Summary Judgment as Exhibits C & D
are true and correct copies of two of those brochures;

7. That in response to plaintiffs’ Request for Production
of Documents the defendants agreed to produce and did produce
copies of the employee group benefit plans applicable to techni-
cal personnel within its Claims Department and that the docu-
ments annexed to the Plaintiffs’ Brief in Support of Motion for
Summary Judgment as Exhibits I through M are true and cor-
rect copies of pages abstracted from the documents produced
and dated respectively March 1964, March 1967, April 1968,
January 1969 and June 1970;

8. And further deponent saith not.

Sworn to and subscribed before me this 18th day of June,
1973.
/s/ Howarp A. SPECTER
/8/ DARLYNE RUFFALO
Notary Public

Darlyne Ruffalo, Notary Public, Pittsburgh, Allegheny
County, Pa. My commission expires April 18, 1977.

EXHIBIT H TO PLAINTIFF'S BRIEF FOR
SUMMARY JUDGMENT

203. Long Term Absence Policy

Continued absence caused by illness of eight or more calendar
days constitutes a long term illness. All such illnesses should be
reported on the Long Term Illness Report, Per. 148, whether
the employee qualifies for the Income Protection Plan or not.
See paragraph 211 for procedure in connection with the
reporting of long term illness and reinstatements from Long
Term Illnesses.

Our Income Protection Plan provides for the continuation
of Income if during the first seven days of a Long Term Illness
the employee is under the care and treatment of a doctor.

If during a long term illness, a doctor has not given treatment
uatil after eight calendar days the benefits of Income Protection
are forfeited until the day that the doctor is consulted. This
means in effect that the employee will receive Income benefits
beginning the day that the doctor is called in on the case.
If during the long term illness no doctor is consulted then
no Income Protection Benefits are payable.

If the maximum of ten days of short term absence has not
already occurred during the calendar year, a maximum of five
days for each long term absence in which a doctor has not been
consulted during the first seven days may be considered as short
term and paid for under our short term absence policy or a
lesser number of days depending on the number already used.
Not more than five days for each absence may be classified as
short term and not more than a maximum of ten days for all
reasons shall be paid for during the year.

Home Office Salary must be properly advised with a copy to
Home Office Benefit Plans if any available days of “short term”
absence are to be paid on a Long Term IIlnesss as described
above. In addition to Per. 148, Report of Long Term Illness,

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covering the beginning and ending of lost time, Per. 158, Salary
Deduction Authorization, must ve forwarded with respect to any
and all days for which salary is to be deducted. Coding on
attendance records should be “1” (short term illness) for those
days payable and “12” (unexcused) for days not payable. Code
9 may be used only for the period covered by our insurance
benefits.

Persons who have been with the Company less than 3 months
and who therefore have not qualified for our Income Protection
Plan will have salary deductions made for all days absent.
The Report of Long Term Illness, Per. 148, should be marked
“no benefits applicable” for persons whose length of service does
not qualify for the Income Protection Plan. Some states have
statutory disability insurance and in those states, statutory bene-
fits are paid to employees of less than 3 months service. In such
cases, Per. 148 should be marked “Statutory Benefits”. Long
Term Illness of persons with less than 3 months service should
be coded (1) to indicate that all of the absence is being deducted.

An employee who is absent for more than ten consecutive
work days during the three-month probationary period will be
terminated. Upon return to work, this individual will be re-
employed provided he or she is able to pass a new pre-placement
examination and will begin a new three-month probationary
period.

204. Pregnancy Policy

No Income Protection Benefits are payable for absences due
to pregnancy.

However, in the case of a long term illness due to pregnancy
where the doctor is seen, the Supervisor may in his discretion
consider the first five days of such absences as payable under our
“short term” absence policy.

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EXHIBIT I TO PLAINTIFF'S BRIEF FOR
SUMMARY JUDGMENT

INSURANCE BENEFITS begin with the eighth day of dis-
ability. If you do not receive treatment before the eighth day of
disability, however, benefits do not begin until the first day on
which you are treated.

For 51 weeks, the benefits is two-thirds of your salary to a
maximum of $150.00 per week and is payable only if you are
unable to perform the duties of your occupation.

For 51 weeks, the benefit is two-thirds of your salary to a
maximum of $115.00 per week and is payable only if you are
unable to perform the duties of any occupation.

These benefits are payable for each period of disability.
Successive periods due to the same or related causes will be
considered one period of disability.

LIMITATIONS ON INSURANCE BENEFITS:

Benefits are not payable for disability due to occupational
injury or to sickness covered under Workmen’s Compensa-
tion Insurance; for disability due to pregnancy or any
cause related to pregnancy; for disabiiity in excess of
104 weeks; or for disability during which you were not
treated by a physician licensed to practice medicine.

SUPPLEMENTARY SALARY BENEFITS are provided by
the Company to help fill the gap between insurance benefits and
your usual earnings. In cases covered by insurance under the
Income Protection Plan. Liberty Mutual pays your full salary
for the first week of disability. Then, for as many weeks as you
have completed years of service with the Company, it pays one-
half the difference between full salary and the insurance benefits.

In cases covered under Workmen’s Compensation Insurance,
the Company will pay, for a period of not more than two years,
the difference between the amount you receive and that which
you would have received in case of non-occupational injury or

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sickness, (In such event, if the disability for which supplementary
salary benefits are paid is due to injury or sickness for which a
third person is responsible. Liberty Mutual is to be reimbursed
out of any damages owed you by the responsible party. )

YOUR COST for the Income Protection Insurance benefits

is 33 cents for each $100 of salary. (This is half of the cost;
Liberty Mutual pays the other half to you.) For example:

a
$ 50. $100. $ .33

60. 120. .40

90. 180. 59

150. 300. .99

225. 450. 1.49 (max.)

These rates apply in all states except those where compulsory
laws necessitate slight variations. The rates are based on present
insurance costs and are subject to change if insurance costs
change.

YOU BECOME ELIGIBLE after you have completed three
months of continuous full-time employment if then actively at
work; otherwise, on the date of return to active work. Income
Protection Insurance is taken by a full-time employees as a
condition of employment.

SPECIAL STATUTORY DISABILITY BENEFITS
apply in California, New Jersey, New York and Rhode
Island. Employees in these states will be insured for state-
required benefits from the first day of employment. You
still become eligible for the Income Protection plan after
completing three months of continuous full-time employ-
ment.

If you are employed in one of these states and disability
occurs after you are insured for Income Protection, you will
receive under the Income Protection plan the difference
between the amount paid by statutory accident and sickness
insurance and the benefit you would ordinarily receive from
the Income Protection plan.

EXHIBIT J TO PL AINTIFF’S BRIEF FOR
SUMMARY JUDGMENT

INSURANCE BENEFITS begin with the eighth day of
disability. Employees with more than three months but less than
five years of continuous full time service will receive a benefit of
two-thirds of salary to a maximum of $150.00 per week, for
103 weeks.

Employees with five years or more of continuous full time
service will receive a benefit of two-thirds of salary to a
maximum of $275.00 per week to age 65.

These benefits are payable during the first year of disability if
you are unable to perform the duties of your occupation. Bene-
fits are payable beyond the first year of disability only if you are
unable to perform the duties of any occupation.

Benefits payable for any week of disability will be reduced by
amounts payable under workmen’s compensation and similar
laws, social security laws (primary and dependent benefits) and
other statutes, any retirement plan, any group insurance plan
except a group policy held by Liberty Mutual, and any remun-
eration earned during such week.

Benefits are payable for each period of disability, Successive
periods due to the same or related causes will be considered one
period of disability.

LIMITATIONS ON INSURANCE BENEFITS:

Benefits are not payable for disability due to pregnancy
or any cause related to pregnancy, any act of declared or
undeclared war, attempted suicide or intentionally self-
inflicted injury, or for any disability which does not require
throughout its continuance the regular attendance of a
physician licensed to prescribe and administer all drugs and
to perform all surgical procedures. No benefits will be paid
beyond age 65.

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SUPPLEMENTARY SALARY BENEFITS are provided by
the Company to help fill the gap between insurance benefits and
your usuai earnings. In cases covered by insurance under the
Income Protection Plan. Liberty Mutual pays your full salary
for the first week of disability. Then, for as many weeks as you
have completed years of service with the Company, it pays one-
half the difference between full salary and the insurance benefits.

YOUR COST for the Income Protection Insurance benefits is
33 cents for each $100 of salary. (This is less than one-third of
the cost: Liberty Mutual pays the balance for you.) For ex-
ample:

y Pay | Bi-Weekly Bi-Weekly Cost
o Salary of (Payroll Deduction)
$ 50. $100. $ .33

60. 120. .40

90. 180. 59

150. 300. .99

225. 450. 1.49 (max.)

These rates apply in all states except those where compulsory
laws necessitate slight variations. The rates are based on present
insurance costs and are subject to change if insurance costs
chan,’e.

If you are absent from work for any reason, other than
vacation or paid excused absence, on the date your insurance
would otherwise become effective, the insurance will not be
effective until you return to work.

Income Protection Insurance is taken by all full time em-
ployees as a condition of employment:

SPECIAL STATUTORY DISABILITY BENEFITS
apply in California, New Jersey, New York and Rhode
Island. Employees in these states will be insured for state-
required benefits from the first day of employment. You
still become eligible for the Income Protection plan after
completing three months of continuous full-time employ-
ment.

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If you are employed in one of these states and disability
occurs after you are insured for Income Protection, you
will receive under the Income Protection plan the difference
between the amount paid by statutory accident and sickness
insurance and the benefit you would ordinarily receive from
the Income Protection plan.

EXHIBIT K ATTACHED TO PLAINTIFF'S BRIEF FOR
SUMMARY JUDGMENT

INSURANCE BENEFITS begin with the eighth day of dis-
ability. Employees with more than three months but less than
five years of continuous full time service will receive a benefit
of two-thirds of salary to a maximum of $150.00 per week, for
103 weeks.

Employees with five years or more of continuous full time
service will receive a benefit of two-thirds of salary to a maxi-
mum of $275.00 per week to age 65.

These benefits are payable during the first year of disability if
you are unable to perform the duties of your occupation. Bene-
fits are payable beyond the first year of disability only if you
are unable to perform the duties of any occupation.

Benefits payable for any week of disability will be reduced by
amounts payable under workmen’s compensation and similar
laws, social security laws (primary and dependent benefits) and
other statutes, any retirement plan, any group insurance plan
except a group policy held by Liberty Mutual, and any remun-
eration earned during such week.

Benefits are payable for each period of disability. Successive
periods due to the same or related causes will be considered one
period of disability.

Limitations On Insurance Benefits:

Benefits are not payable for disability due to pregnancy or any
cause related to pregnancy, any act of declared or undeclared
war, attempted suicide or intentionally self-inflicted injury, or for

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any disability which does not require throughout its continuance
the regular attendance of a physician licensed to prescribe and
administer all drugs and to perform all surgical procedures.
No benefits will be paid beyond age 65.

SUPPLEMENTARY SALARY BENEFITS are provided by
the Company to help fill the gap between insurance benefits
and your usual earnings. In cases covered by insurance under
the Income Protection Plan, Liberty Mutual pays your full
salary for the first week of disability. Then, for as many weeks
as you have completed years of service with the Company, it
pays one-half the difference between full salary and the insur-
ance benefits.

YOUR COST for the Income Protection Insurance benefits
is 33 cents for each $100 of salary. (This is less than one-third
of the cost; Liberty Mutual pays the balance for you.) For
example:

At Weekl Bi-Weekly Bi-Weekly Cost
Salary o Salary of (Payroll Deduction)
$ 50. $100. $ .33

60. 120. .40

90. 180. 59

150. 300. .99

225. 450. 1.49 (max.)

These rates apply in all states except those where compulsory
laws necessitate slight variations. The rates are based on present
insurance costs and are subject to change if insurance costs
change. If you are absent from work for any reason, other than
vacation or paid excused absence, on the date your insurance
would otherwise become effective, the insurance will not be
effective until you return to work.

Income Protection Insurance is taken by all full time em-
ployees as a condition of employment.

SPECIAL STATUTORY DISABILITY BENEFITS apply
in California, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island. Em-

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ployees in these states will be insured for state-required benefits
the Income Protection plan after completing three months of
continuous full-time employment.

If you are employed in one of these states and disability oc-
curs after you are insured for Income Protection, you will re-
ceive under the Income Protection plan the difference between
the amount paid by statutory accident and sickness insurance
and the benefit you would ordinarily receive from the Income
Protection plan.

EXHIBIT L TO PLAINTIFF'S BRIEF FOR
SUMMARY JUDGMENT

INSURANCE BENEFITS begin with the eighth day of
disability. Employees w

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