# Carey v. Apfel > Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit · October 5, 2000 · 230 F.3d 131 URL: https://www.frixlaw.com/law-library/cases/9413998 ## Case - **Full name:** George A. CAREY, Plaintiff-Appellant, v. Kenneth S. APFEL, Commissioner of Social Security, Defendant-Appellee - **Court:** Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit - **Decided:** October 5, 2000 - **Citations:** 230 F.3d 131; 2000 U.S. App. LEXIS 24907; 2000 WL 1481162 - **Precedential status:** Published - **Opinion:** Concurring in part by Parker - **Judges:** Garwood, Demoss, Parker - **Cited by:** 408 later opinions in the Frix Law Library ## Citator (automated) - No negative treatment found by the automated citator. That is not the same as a confirmation that the case is good law; read the citing cases. - Full citator and citing cases: https://www.frixlaw.com/law-library/cases/9413998 ## How later opinions describe it (automated extraction) - concluding that that the claimant forfeited a purported conflict by not raising it, because the conflict did “not involve the type of direct and obvious conflict at issue when the [VE’s] characterization of the exertional or skill level required for a particular job is faciall… - holding “[t]o the extent that there is any implied or indirect conflict between the vocational expert’s testimony and the DOT in this case, we agree with the majority of the circuits that the ALJ may rely upon the [VE’s] testimony provided that the record reflects an adequate … - concluding that, in conformity with the “middle ground approach” of “the majority of the circuits,” to the extent there is any implied or indirect conflict between the VE’s testimony and the DOT, the ALJ may rely on the VE’s testimony if the record reflects an adequate basis f… - holding that ALJ can rely on VE’s testimony if there is adequate record support for doing so because “all kinds of implicit conflicts are possible and the categorical requirements listed in the DOT do not and cannot satisfactorily answer every such situation” - finding no conflict between the VE’s testimony that a claimant with one arm could perform jobs requiring some ability to finger and handle objects where the DOT does not include any requirement of bilateral fingering or handling ability ## Opinion text ROBERT M. PARKER, Circuit Judge, concurring in part and dissenting in part. I agree with the majority that when a vocational expert’s testimony is in conflict with the DOT, the ALJ may rely on the vocational expert’s testimony if the record *148 reflects a substantial reason for doing so. See Haddock v. Apfel, 196 F.3d 1084 (10th Cir.1999). Although the DOT is due deference, it does not and cannot cover every possible permutation of human impairment. A vocational expert’s testimony that, in-a particular case, a claimant can or cannot perform a specific job or class of jobs must be taken into consideration by the ALJ. I therefore agree that we should decline to reverse the Commissioner’s determination on the basis of the conflict between the vocational expert’s testimony and the DOT. However, I find merit in Carey’s claim that the ALJ’s decision was not supported by substantial evidence. The medical expert gave an inaccurate summary of Carey’s medical records, the vocational expert’s testimony relied, in part, on that inaccurate summary and the ALJ specifically found that the medical expert, gave credible testimony. The ALJ was clearly in error when he relied on Medical Vocational Guideline 202.21, a fact that the majority acknowledges. Based on these errors, I would reverse this case and remand it for a determination of Carey’s eligibility for disability insurance payments in light of a complete and accurate record. I respectfully dissent. --- Source: Frix Law Library, https://www.frixlaw.com/law-library/cases/9413998. Public record. Not legal advice.