# Antonio Turner v. State of Indiana

> Indiana Supreme Court · March 12, 2025

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## Case

- **Court:** Indiana Supreme Court
- **Decided:** March 12, 2025
- **Precedential status:** Published
- **Opinion:** Opinion
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## Opinion text

IN THE

Indiana Supreme Court
Supreme Court Case No. 24S-CR-147

Antonio Turner, FILED
Appellant (Defendant below), Mar 12 2025, 10:27 am

CLERK
Indiana Supreme Court
–v– Court of Appeals
and Tax Court

State of Indiana,
Appellee (Plaintiff below).

Argued: June 20, 2024 | Decided: March 12, 2025

Appeal from the Marion Superior Court
No. 49D32-2110-F5-31008
The Honorable Andrew Borland, Magistrate Judge

On Petition to Transfer from the Indiana Court of Appeals
No. 23A-CR-1868

Opinion by Justice Molter
Chief Justice Rush and Justices Massa and Slaughter concur.
Justice Goff concurs in the judgment with separate opinion.
Molter, Justice.

This is a case about a good guy with a gun shooting a bad guy with a
gun when the only choices were to shoot or be shot.

Antonio Turner was one of three students studying organic chemistry
at a classmate’s home, tucked away in a quiet neighborhood just outside
of Indianapolis. While they were studying, the classmate’s jealous love
interest, Dequan Briscoe, repeatedly called her. And when he learned
Turner was at her home, Briscoe twice threatened to “pull up” on
Turner—to attack him—which Turner heard over the speakerphone.
Shortly after hearing the threat, Turner walked outside to his car, and
moments later, he sensed that the unfamiliar car screeching towards him
down the sleepy street was an ambush. Since he didn’t have time to reach
the house and had nowhere to hide, he turned while running and fired
four shots into the car, wounding Briscoe. Turner fired based on his
intuition—he didn’t recognize the car, couldn’t see through its darkly
tinted windows, and wouldn’t have recognized Briscoe if he saw him. But
that intuition proved prescient. It turns out Briscoe was aiming a handgun
to shoot Turner just before Turner began firing.

Because Turner shot Briscoe before Briscoe shot Turner, Turner is the
defendant rather than the victim in this case; the State charged Turner
with battery by means of a deadly weapon, a Level 5 felony. And
following a bench trial, the magistrate judge convicted him. Yet the judge
agreed with Turner that, in hindsight, it was necessary for Turner to fire at
Briscoe to avoid being shot. But the judge rejected Turner’s self-defense
justification because, without the benefit of hindsight, it was objectively
unreasonable for Turner to fire at a car into which he couldn’t see. Turner
made the best choice, the judge explained, and it was unfortunate that his
only choices were a felony or funeral. But that paradox followed from the
objective reasonableness standard governing Indiana’s self-defense law,
and the law gave the judge no choice but to convict, he believed.

Fortunately for Turner, that isn’t how Indiana’s self-defense law
functions. To be sure, the judge was correct that the self-defense statute
justifies using force when the defendant’s actions are objectively
reasonable in the circumstances. And many cases explain we don’t use

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hindsight to second-guess the reasonableness of the defendant’s decisions
in the heat of the moment.

But this case presents a question of first impression in Indiana: Do we
deprive defendants of the benefit of hindsight when it reveals their
conduct was necessary in self-defense, even though that necessity wasn’t
fully apparent in the moment? The answer is that we do not, and we base
that answer on a sentence in the self-defense statute that our Indiana
appellate courts have never interpreted before, which says: “No person,
employer, or estate of a person in this state shall be placed in legal
jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting the person or a third
person by reasonable means necessary.” Ind. Code § 35-41-3-2.

Because the trial court concluded that Turner’s conduct was necessary
in self-defense, the statute justified the shooting, and we vacate the
conviction.

Facts and Procedural History

I. Factual Background
The State, Turner, and the trial court all agree that Turner is an
upstanding citizen whose involvement here results from terrible luck
leading him to the wrong place at the wrong time. Before this case, he had
no criminal history, and as the trial court described: “he has led a law-
abiding life,” and he “has shown himself to be a productive, employed,
respected member of the community.” Tr. at 140.

Turner grew up on the east side of Indianapolis and graduated from
Warren Central High School, participating in band throughout his high
school years. Among his bandmates and their parents, he earned a
reputation as honest and peaceful. Then, after graduating from Warren
Central, he attended Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis,
pursuing a double major in biology and medical humanities. Alongside
his collegiate studies, he also worked for Kroger processing e-commerce,
and he worked for a dog training business.

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Through a cruel twist of fate, the tragedy here stems from Turner’s
commendable enrollment in organic chemistry his senior year in college. It
was a difficult course, so he would often study with a classmate, Nyah
Grice. Their last study session together was in preparation for an
upcoming Monday exam, and they met around 5:00 p.m. on a Saturday at
her home in a quiet Lawrence, Indiana, neighborhood just outside
Indianapolis. Another student, Maray Bell, joined them a little while later.

Grice had been in a relationship with Dequan Briscoe, and it is unclear
whether they were still dating at that time. But over the course of the
evening, Briscoe called and texted Grice repeatedly, and Turner heard
several of those phone conversations over Grice’s speakerphone. Grice
told Briscoe not to come to her house because she was studying, which
angered Briscoe, and he began questioning why Turner was in her house.
Eventually, Briscoe repeatedly told Grice that he was going to “pull up”
on Turner, which Turner heard. Id. at 89, 90. Turner interpreted the
statement as common lingo on the east side of Indianapolis meaning
Briscoe was “coming to harm [him] in some way.” Id. at 90.

Now concerned for his safety, Turner went outside to retrieve his
handgun from his car around 8:30 p.m. He was licensed to carry his
firearm, which his mother had given him for protection because they lived
together in a “very dangerous” part of Indianapolis where he had seen
many people shot. Id. at 84.

As he was walking to his car, he noticed another car’s headlights from
“about five houses down.” Id. at 91. But it wasn’t moving, so he thought
nothing of it and continued to the passenger side of his car to retrieve his
handgun. Turner then began walking back toward Grice’s house. While
he was ascending her driveway, the other car’s engine revved, and the car
sped down the street towards him, tires squealing. Turner had never met
Briscoe before, didn’t know what he looked like, and didn’t know what
kind of car Briscoe drove, but he was aware from Grice that Briscoe
regularly carried a gun, and he “just knew” that the car barreling toward
him was Briscoe. Id.

Turner tried to run to the house but couldn’t get there before the car
abruptly stopped in front of the driveway. The car—a Volkswagen Jetta—

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had dark, illegally-tinted windows, so Turner could not see inside. But he
sensed he was about to be attacked, so he turned around and fired four
shots at the car, stopping when it drove off. Two of Turner’s shots hit
Briscoe, one in each arm. And it turns out that Turner’s intuition was
correct: Briscoe was driving the Jetta, armed with a handgun, and aiming
to shoot Turner.

After he was shot, Briscoe fled and pulled his car into a nearby open
garage. Authorities arrived shortly after and treated his wounds. They
also discovered Briscoe’s blood-stained, unholstered gun resting in the
passenger seat of his vehicle. Meanwhile, Turner gathered his things at
Grice’s house and went home. After Turner learned from Grice that his
shots wounded Briscoe, he called the police and told them what
happened.

II. Procedural History
The State charged Turner with Level 5 felony battery by means of a
deadly weapon. He waived his right to a jury trial, so the magistrate judge
conducted a bench trial, at which Turner claimed the shooting was
justified by self-defense.

Briscoe and Turner both testified, and they gave conflicting accounts.
Turner’s account tracks our factual description above. Briscoe, on the
other hand, claimed that while he had told police he was upset that
Turner was at Grice’s home, he really wasn’t, although he was “a little
upset” that Grice told him not to come over. Tr. at 20. He acknowledged
that he stopped his car in the middle of the street in front of Grice’s house,
but he said he didn’t speed up and he didn’t pull out his handgun. He
testified that it may have seemed like he was driving fast, even though he
wasn’t, because he had modified his car so that it would have a “loud
exhaust on it.” Id. at 9, 22. He had also tinted his windows darker than the
legal limit.

He testified that when he stopped in front of the house, he saw
someone in the driveway who he assumed was Turner and who “just
turned around and started shooting.” Id. at 12. And after he was shot in

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both arms, he sped away. As for the blood-stained handgun police found
on his passenger seat pointed towards the passenger window, he gave
conflicting accounts of whether the gun simply fell out of its holster in the
console or whether he unholstered the gun while driving away.

After hearing all the evidence, the judge explained he agreed with
Turner about “what are the facts.” Id. at 125. Briscoe was “upset
apparently because Mr. Turner [was] there with his girlfriend or ex-
girlfriend,” and Briscoe said he was going to “pull up” on Turner. Id. The
judge agreed with Turner that Briscoe’s statements over the phone were
“threats that Mr. Turner heard.” Id. at 126. He also reiterated he
“believe[d]” Turner’s testimony, and Turner was “being truthful” when
he spoke with police and in court, and the judge credited the witnesses
who testified to Turner’s “reputation [] of being a truthful person.” Id. As
for the gun in Briscoe’s car, the judge concluded that “Briscoe lied . . .
about how that gun got out in the seat,” and he was “lying about it falling
out of the holster,” as “holsters are designed so that guns can’t fall out of
them.” Id. Instead, the judge concluded that Briscoe “did likely draw his
gun inside of that car and probably had bad intent” to shoot Turner. Id.

Yet, the judge rejected Turner’s self-defense claim and convicted him.
He agreed with Turner that “this is a good guy in a bad guy scenario.” Id.
at 127. And he empathized that he couldn’t say he “might not have done
the same thing,” id., because “what the heck else [was Turner] supposed
to do?” Id. at 141. But he understood the law as constraining him to
convict because Turner “couldn’t see inside of this car” and “couldn’t see
a gun,” so Turner’s fear that he was about to be shot, while accurate, was
unreasonable as a matter of self-defense law. Id. at 126–27. As the judge
understood the law, Turner could only be justified in shooting if either
“he saw the gun and it was being raised toward him, or [he] knew that
Briscoe was the guy, or that the car was about to run him right over in
order for that combination of the fear created by the threats on the phone
and the circumstances he saw to justify the self-defense.” Id. at 127. The
judge concluded by lamenting the burdens that would come with Turner’s
felon status, but assuring Turner: “honestly, if your choice was between
being a convicted felon and being harmed, you probably made the right
choice.” Id. at 142.

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Turner appealed his conviction, arguing that the “trial court
misinterpreted and misapplied Indiana’s self-defense statute.” Appellant’s
Br. at 12. The court’s mistake, Turner argued, was concluding that “it had
no choice under Indiana law but to convict Turner although the trial court
made it clear that if Turner had not taken the actions that led to his
conviction, Turner’s life would have been in real jeopardy.” Id. The judge
had agreed with Turner about what the evidence showed, so Turner made
clear he was not asking the appellate courts “to reweigh the evidence nor
assess the credibility of the witnesses.” Id.

The State argued in response that “Turner’s argument fails because he
asks [the court] to determine the reasonableness of his actions in hindsight
instead of determining the reasonableness of his actions based on the
circumstances surrounding his conduct when he used force.” Appellee’s
Br. at 6. The Court of Appeals agreed with the State, affirming in a
unanimous nonprecedential memorandum decision. Turner v. State, No.
23A-CR-1868 (Ind. Ct. App. Dec. 27, 2023) (mem.). It based its decision on
Turner’s testimony “that he had never previously met Briscoe or seen his
car, he did not know who was driving the car, he did not see a gun
pointed at him, and Briscoe never shot at him.” Id.

Turner then petitioned for transfer to our Court, which we granted,
thus vacating the Court of Appeals decision. Ind. Appellate Rule 58(A).

Standard of Review
Turner challenges his conviction on the basis that the trial court
mistakenly rejected his self-defense justification. As with any statute, we
review the trial court’s interpretation of the self-defense statute de novo.
Fix v. State, 186 N.E.3d 1134, 1138 (Ind. 2022). And “[w]hen a defendant
challenges the State’s sufficiency of the evidence to rebut a claim of self-
defense, the standard of review remains the same as for any sufficiency of
the evidence claim.” Miller v. State, 720 N.E.2d 696, 699 (Ind. 1999). “[W]e
do not reweigh evidence or assess witness credibility, and only look to the
evidence most favorable to the judgment.” Larkin v. State, 173 N.E.3d 662,
667 (Ind. 2021) (quotations omitted). We will affirm the defendant’s

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conviction if there is evidence, including reasonable inferences, that
supports the judgment. Id. And we will reverse the defendant’s conviction
“only if no reasonable person could say that” the defendant’s self-defense
claim “was negated by the State beyond a reasonable doubt.” Wilson v.
State, 770 N.E.2d 799, 801 (Ind. 2002).

Discussion and Decision
At this point in the case, there is no longer any dispute between the
parties about the material facts: Turner avoided being shot by Briscoe only
by shooting Briscoe first, but Turner fired based on intuition, unable to see
through Briscoe’s darkly tinted windows. The magistrate judge reasoned
that while it was necessary for Turner to shoot Briscoe in self-defense, it
was not reasonable, because the necessity was only apparent in hindsight.
The State agrees that was the appropriate analysis, and Turner’s argument
on appeal is that the trial court’s reasoning reflects a legal error—the judge
misinterpreted the self-defense statute.

We agree with Turner. Under Indiana’s self-defense statute,
justification for using force based on a mistaken belief about necessity
depends on the reasonableness of the belief given the circumstances. But
using defensive force based on an accurate belief is justified regardless of
the belief’s reasonableness. In other words, using force for protection
based on a belief that is both unreasonable and turns out to be wrong isn’t
justified, but acting on a belief that is unreasonable, yet right, is justified.

Below, we discuss how Indiana’s self-defense justification bars
conviction for what would otherwise be criminal conduct. Then, we
explain how resort to hindsight differs depending on whether it is used to
second-guess the reasonableness of the defendant’s fear or instead to
confirm the necessity of defensive force. Finally, we note that this analysis
does not reflect a change in Indiana’s self-defense law but rather how the
self-defense statute applies to a sliver of circumstances where the
necessity of self-defense is only fully apparent in hindsight.

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I. Self-defense justifies what would otherwise be
criminal conduct.
Self-defense is a legal justification for what would otherwise be
criminal conduct, Larkin v. State, 173 N.E.3d 662, 670 (Ind. 2021), and it
operates as a complete bar to conviction, Hill v. State, 497 N.E.2d 1061,
1064 (Ind. 1986). Once the defendant invokes self-defense, the State has
the burden to disprove beyond a reasonable doubt at least one element of
the justification. Id.

Our legislature recognizes that the “citizens of this state have always
enjoyed” “robust self-defense rights.” I.C. § 35-41-3-2(a). And we recently
recognized that Article 1, Section 1’s guarantee of an “inalienable” right to
“life” includes the right of self-defense, which “was a firmly established
right long before Indiana became a state.” Members of Med. Licensing Bd. of
Indiana v. Planned Parenthood Great Nw., Hawai’i, Alaska, Indiana, Kentucky,
Inc., 211 N.E.3d 957, 976 (Ind. 2023); see generally 1 Jens D. Ohlin, Wharton’s
Criminal Law § 14:2 (16th ed. 2024) (explaining the common law origins of
the self-defense justification). Our Indiana Constitution also protects that
right through the means Turner used here: “The people shall have a right
to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State.” Ind. Const. art.
1, § 32; see also Kellogg v. City of Gary, 562 N.E.2d 685, 694 (Ind. 1990)
(explaining that it is “clear that our constitution provides our citizenry the
right to bear arms for their self-defense” (quotations omitted)).

These rights may be regulated, though, Matthews v. State, 148 N.E.2d
334, 338 (Ind. 1958), and the legislature regulates self-defense through
Indiana Code section 35-41-3-2. See I.C. § 35-41-3-2(a) (explaining that the
purpose of the self-defense statute “is to provide the citizens of this state
with a lawful means of carrying out” the state’s policy “that people have a
right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and
crime”). Every state recognizes a self-defense justification, see Shlomit
Wallerstein, Essay, Justifying the Right to Self-Defense: A Theory of Forced
Consequences, 91 Va. L. Rev. 999, 999 (2005) (noting that “the right to self-
defense is recognized in all jurisdictions”), and Indiana’s statute reflects
the common features, see 2 Paul H. Robinson, Crim. L. Def. § 121 (2024)
(describing the features common to all self-defense statutes).

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The statutory trigger is generally “the imminent use of unlawful force.”
I.C. § 35-41-3-2(c). A defendant generally may use force only when
necessary for protection. Id.; see also Hileman v. State, 224 N.E.3d 321, 328
(Ind. Ct. App. 2023) (explaining that the right to self-defense ends when
the danger passes). And the force must be proportional to the threat. I.C.
§ 35-41-3-2(c) (providing that only “reasonable force” may be used in
defense); Hall v. State, 231 N.E.3d 868, 874–75 (Ind. Ct. App. 2024) (“The
amount of force that an individual may use to protect himself must be
proportionate to the urgency of the situation.”), trans. denied.

Of course, we evaluate all of this in hindsight. And when people make
split-second decisions about how to defend themselves in what they
perceive to be a dangerous situation, they sometimes make mistakes that
become apparent only with the benefit of that hindsight. Or, on the other
hand, the necessity of their actions may become fully apparent only
through hindsight. How we use hindsight to determine whether self-
defense justifies force depends on whether hindsight reveals a mistake or
confirms the necessity of using force.

II. A defendant’s use of force based on what turns
out to be a mistaken belief about the necessity is
only justified if the mistake was a reasonable
one.
“Every jurisdiction recognizes some defense for some mistakes as to a
justification,” and most do that “by including the word ‘believes’ in the
definition of a justification.” 2 Paul H. Robinson, Crim. L. Def. § 184 (2024).
Our legislature has taken that approach, building grace for mistakes into
the self-defense statute so long as the person acts reasonably under the
circumstances. Specifically, our self-defense statute says:

A person is justified in using reasonable force against any other
person to protect the person or a third person from what the
person reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful
force. However, a person:

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(1) is justified in using deadly force; and

(2) does not have a duty to retreat;

if the person reasonably believes that that force is necessary to
prevent serious bodily injury to the person or a third person or
the commission of a forcible felony.

I.C. § 35-41-3-2(c) (emphases added).

Our Court has determined that the above language establishes both a
subjective and an objective standard to evaluate the reasonableness of a
defendant’s belief that force was necessary to protect against the imminent
use of unlawful force. Littler v. State, 871 N.E.2d 276, 279 (Ind. 2007).
Subjectively, the defendant must actually believe force is necessary, and
objectively, that belief must be one that a reasonable person would form
given the circumstances. Id.

Under this part of the statute, we evaluate the reasonableness of the
defendant’s belief only prospectively. “The law protects persons who feel
compelled to act at such times even though in retrospect it is proved they
have erred.” Heglin v. State, 140 N.E.2d 98, 99 (Ind. 1957); id. (“The law
does not use hindsight as a measure of reasonable conduct under
circumstances such as these.”). “The question of the existence of such
danger, the necessity . . . as well as the amount of force necessary to
employ to resist [an] attack can only be determined from the standpoint of
the defendant at the time and under all the then existing circumstances.”
French v. State, 403 N.E.2d 821, 824 (Ind. 1980). That means that “the trier
of fact must consider the circumstances as they appeared to the defendant,
rather than to the victim or anyone else.” Washington v. State, 997 N.E.2d
342, 350 (Ind. 2013). Even though the defendant’s testimony is “critically
relevant,” the reasonableness of the defendant’s belief remains a strictly
objective inquiry. Id. at 349.

So, for example, under the self-defense statute, a person is justified in
using force to defend against someone pointing an unloaded gun if the
person in fear reasonably believes the gun is loaded. A cashier confronting

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an armed robber reasonably fears the gun is loaded. An actor filming a
scripted shooting scene doesn’t. Thus, an actor mistakenly shooting in
self-defense wouldn’t be justified, but a cashier shooting in self-defense
would. That is so even though hindsight reveals the robber’s gun was
unloaded, because the cashier’s belief was reasonable under the
circumstances despite being mistaken.

Through this prism, the magistrate judge analyzed Turner’s
circumstances, asking whether—setting aside hindsight—it was
reasonable for Turner to fear a car he didn’t recognize, into which he
couldn’t see. And if that were the only question, we would affirm. Turner
argues, and the concurring opinion agrees, that his conduct was
objectively reasonable even viewed only prospectively because Briscoe
had recently threatened him, Turner knew Briscoe carried a gun in his car,
and a car was speeding aggressively towards Turner in a way consistent
with an ambush.

But the question “is whether the inferences supporting the judgment
were reasonable, not whether there were other more reasonable inferences
that could have been made.” Thompson v. State, 804 N.E.2d 1146, 1150 (Ind.
2004) (quotations omitted). As the State correctly points out, it was within
the trial court’s discretion to conclude that it is generally unreasonable for
someone in Turner’s position to shoot into a car they can’t see inside and
without knowing who is inside. So, for example, if Turner had been
mistaken, and Briscoe hadn’t been preparing to shoot him, we would have
to affirm because there is evidence to support (even if it does not compel)
the trial court’s conclusion that Turner’s fear that the approaching car
posed an imminent threat was objectively unreasonable.

Another question, though—and this is a matter of first impression in
Indiana—is whether the factfinder should ignore hindsight when it
confirms rather than belies the defendant’s belief. We address that question
next.

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III. A defendant’s use of protective force based on an
accurate belief that force is necessary is justified
even if the necessity is only fully apparent in
hindsight.

A. Statutory Interpretation

Indiana cases have focused on the first two sentences of the self-defense
statutory provision quoted above, which provide that a defendant’s use of
force is justified when they have a reasonable belief that it is necessary to
respond to a threat of unlawful force. I.C. § 35-41-3-2(c). But there is a
third sentence—the final sentence in that provision—which no court has
interpreted in a reported decision. That sentence says: “No person,
employer, or estate of a person in this state shall be placed in legal
jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting the person or a third
person by reasonable means necessary.” Id.

When we interpret statutes, we give the words their plain meaning,
considering the statutory structure as a whole and avoiding
interpretations that render any part of the statute meaningless or
superfluous. ESPN, Inc. v. Univ. of Notre Dame Police Dep’t, 62 N.E.3d 1192,
1195, 1199 (Ind. 2016). None of the words in this provision are ambiguous,
and their meaning is so plain that there is no need to walk through their
dictionary definitions. Read together, they simply codify the core self-
defense justification for individuals recognized at common law, and they
extend that protection to those (employers and estates) who face
derivative liability for an individual’s justified use of force. See Page v.
State, 40 N.E. 745, 745 (1895) (“One who is without fault, and in a place
where he has a right to be, and is there unlawfully assailed, may, without
retreating, repel force with force, and go even to the extent of taking the
life of his adversary, if in repelling his assailant he used no more force
than is reasonably necessary in his own self-defense.”). That is, at a
minimum, a person is justified in using force when: (1) they are protecting
themselves or someone else; (2) that protection is from an imminent threat
(imminence is part of what makes the force “necessary”); (3) force rather

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than some other means is “necessary” for that protection; and (4) their
response is proportional (the “reasonable means necessary” for
protection). I.C. § 35-41-3-2(c).

This final sentence in the self-defense statute also reflects both a
subjective and an objective standard. Subjectively, the defendant’s use of
force must be for the appropriate purpose: to “protect[] the person or a
third person.” I.C. § 35-41-3-2(c). Objectively, the force must be a
necessary, proportional response to an imminent threat. But the only
mention of reasonableness in this sentence refers to the means used, not
the defendant’s belief. So for the core self-defense this sentence codifies,
the justification depends on the accuracy of the defendant’s belief, not its
reasonableness.

In other words, the factfinder must determine, in retrospect, whether the
use of force was really necessary. If so, self-defense justifies the conduct,
no matter how reasonable or unreasonable the defendant’s fear. But if not,
the defendant must look elsewhere for justification because this sentence
in the statute provides no refuge for mistaken beliefs.

Reading all three sentences of the relevant statutory provision together
yields an understanding that boils down to what we explained long ago,
which is that self-defense justifies the use of force when “the defendant
acted without fault, was in a place where he had a legal right to be, and
was in real danger of death or great bodily harm or was in such apparent
danger as caused him in good faith to fear death or bodily injury.” Spinks
v. State, 437 N.E.2d 963, 965 (Ind. 1982) (emphasis added), disapproved of in
part on other grounds by McCraney v. State, 447 N.E.2d 589, 591 (Ind. 1983)
(clarifying that it is the State’s burden to disprove self-defense). In short,
the core self-defense justification applies when the force was necessary as
discussed above in Section I, and then beyond that, there is statutory grace
for mistakes, but only reasonable ones, as discussed in Section II. We use
hindsight to confirm the necessity of using defensive force, but not to
second-guess the reasonableness of any mistake.

As this analysis reflects, we are interpreting each of the three relevant
sentences and explaining how they operate together, not, as the

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concurring opinion describes, reading one clause “in isolation.” Post, at 2,
3.

B. Subjective Motivation

Our interpretation also does not, as the concurring opinion concludes,
conflict with Trogdon v. State, 32 N.E. 725 (Ind. 1892). In Trogdon, the Court
recognized the same subjective standard we recognize today: the
defendant must be motivated to “protect himself from threatened
danger.” Id. We said there—as we’re saying here—that “[t]he danger may
be actual or only apparent.” Id. And we said there—as we continue to
agree here—a defendant “who does not in fact apprehend any danger”
may not “deliberately and maliciously kill another, and successfully interpose
the defense of self-defense[] because it subsequently appears that there
was actual danger.” Id. (emphasis added).

The commentators the concurring opinion cites, post, at 4, read Trogdon
as we do, which is to confirm that the defendant’s subjective motivation
must be for protection, not some other malicious intent. For example,
Professor Robinson’s treatise describes the takeaway from Trogdon and
cases like it as this:

If A kills his enemy B for revenge, and he later learns to his
happy surprise that by killing B he has saved the lives of C and
D, A has no defense to murder. In other words, he must believe
that his conduct is necessary to avoid the greater harm.

2 Paul H. Robinson, Crim. L. Def. § 122 n.4 (2024) (cited in the concurring
opinion, post, at 4). Similarly, the Restatement of Torts points to Trogdon as
the basis for this illustration:

A points what appears to be a cane at B and addresses a gross
insult to him. B to avenge the insult knocks A down. B is not
privileged to do so, although the supposed cane is a disguised
shotgun and A was attempting to shoot B and would have
done so, had B not knocked him down.

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Restatement (Second) of Torts § 63 cmt. f (Am. L. Inst. 1965). And
Professor Simons—citing Trogdon and tracking our analysis—explains: the
“unwittingly justified actor who does not act for a defensive purpose is
probably not entitled to invoke self-defense,” but “[o]n the other hand, if
the actor does act for a defensive purpose, he might retain the right of self-
defense even if his beliefs that the facts support defensive force are
unreasonable, so long as those beliefs turn out to be correct.” Kenneth W.
Simons, Self-Defense, Necessity, and the Duty to Compensate, in Law and
Morality, 55 San Diego L. Rev. 357, 360 (2018) (emphases added).

As Trogdon and these commentators recognize, the reason a defendant
cannot interpose self-defense for a malicious killing is that a malicious
killing is not for protection. Codifying that limitation, the statutory
provision on which we rely for our holding says self-defense justifies only
force “for protecting the person or a third person.” I.C. § 35-41-3-2(c). That
limitation is finely calibrated, though. While the State certainly has good
reasons for not recognizing a justification for malicious killings, there
would be serious constitutional questions if the law required an
individual to succumb to being shot because their anticipation of being
shot, while accurate, was nevertheless unreasonable. See Members of Med.
Licensing Bd. of Indiana v. Planned Parenthood Great Nw., Hawai’i, Alaska,
Indiana, Kentucky, Inc., 211 N.E.3d 957, 976 (Ind. 2023) (recognizing that
Article 1, Section 1 of the Indiana Constitution guarantees an “inalienable”
right to “life” that includes the right of self-defense, which “was a firmly
established right long before Indiana became a state”). And we generally
prefer statutory interpretations that “avoid constitutional issues.” City of
Vincennes v. Emmons, 841 N.E.2d 155, 162 (Ind. 2006).

Having concluded that Indiana’s self-defense statute justifies both (1) a
defendant’s use of proportional force necessary to protect the defendant
or a third party, and (2) the same force based on a reasonable
misapprehension about the need to use force, we turn to applying that
understanding to the facts here.

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C. Turner’s Use of Force

Given the trial court’s factual conclusions, to which we defer, Turner’s
actions were justified here. After considering all the evidence and
weighing the witnesses’ credibility, the trial court concluded that Turner
was telling the truth, and his conduct was necessary to protect himself.
Turner’s choices, in the judge’s view, were either to shoot or be shot,
because Briscoe was lying when he testified, and he had drawn his gun to
shoot Turner just before Turner shot him first.

The judge assured Turner that he navigated the horns of a dilemma as
best Turner could, recognizing: “if your choice was between being a
convicted felon and being harmed, you probably made the right choice.”
Tr. at 142. But as we explained in the previous section, Indiana law does
not force that dilemma. Instead, based on the judge’s factual
determinations, Turner’s shooting was justified under Indiana law
because (1) he was protecting himself from a threat of serious bodily
harm; (2) the threat was imminent; (3) the threat required force for
protection; and (4) the force Turner used was proportional to the threat—
he shot at Briscoe to avoid being shot and then stopped shooting when
Briscoe drove off. Turner’s use of force was justified not because his belief
that he was about to be shot was reasonable but because that belief was
correct, and force really was necessary to protect himself.

The concurring opinion finds two primary faults with this analysis, but
each concern is misplaced.

First, the opinion characterizes our invocation of the self-defense
statute’s last clause as “sua sponte,” post, at 1—which means “[w]ithout
prompting or suggestion,” Sua Sponte, Black’s Law Dictionary (12th ed.
2024)—and the opinion reminds of the dangers of adopting “a theory
without the exchange and vigorous testing of arguments by the parties in
interest,” post, at 5. While we agree those concerns warrant caution before
invoking statutory provisions sua sponte, our reliance on that provision is
not sua sponte.

It was Turner who invoked the statute and asked us to set aside his
conviction based on it. His appellant’s brief block-quoted the self-defense

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statute and bolded the clause on which we rely: “No person, employer, or
estate of a person in this state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind
whatsoever for protecting the person or a third person by reasonable
means necessary.” Appellant’s Br. at 15 (emphasis omitted) (quoting I.C.
§ 35-41-3-2(c)). He then argued he “had a lawful right to defend himself
from serious bodily injury or death from the likes of Briscoe under the
unique circumstances presented in this appeal.” Id. at 20. And, he
continued, “[i]n error, the trial court felt like it had no choice under
Indiana law but to convict Turner although the trial court made it clear
that if Turner had not taken the actions that led to his conviction, Turner’s
life would have been in real jeopardy.” Id.

Turner persisted with this argument in his transfer petition, in which
his argument section concisely summed up our analysis here: “As
essentially found by the trial court, this was truly a case of ‘shoot or be
shot’. The trial court got the facts correct but applied the law under IC 35-
41-3-2 incorrectly.” Pet. to Trans. at 4. He repeated that argument in his
conclusion. Id. at 11 (“The trial court got the facts correct but applied the
law incorrectly. . . . This was truly a case of ‘shoot or be shot’ as found by
the trial court.”(emphases omitted)). Oral argument in our Court also
included “vigorous testing of arguments by the parties in interest,” post, at
5, as we questioned each side extensively about the analysis this opinion
provides. See Oral Argument at 7:35–9:30, 19:40–21:00, 25:55–33:25.

Second, the concurring opinion says the record doesn’t support a key
premise of our analysis, which is that the magistrate judge concluded it
was necessary for Turner to shoot at Briscoe to avoid being shot. Post, at 7.
But even the State agreed at oral argument with Turner’s characterization
that the judge concluded Turner confronted a “shoot or be shot”
predicament. Pet. to Trans. at 4, 11; Oral Argument at 19:40–20:21 (the
State agreeing that the judge concluded that Briscoe was lying and was in
fact pointing a gun at Turner). After all, the conclusion that Turner had to
shoot Briscoe to avoid being shot is what led the judge to say Turner
“probably made the right choice.” Tr. at 142. Obviously, shooting Briscoe
would not be the right choice if it wasn’t necessary.

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Because the magistrate judge agreed with Turner that his only choices
were to shoot or be shot, we agree with Turner’s argument that the self-
defense statute justified his shooting.

IV. All the limits our case law recognizes for the
self-defense justification remain.
Our decision today is not a revision or expansion of Indiana’s self-
defense law. Rather, it reflects that an unusual fact pattern—the sort
which is usually only the subject of academic hypothesizing—enlivens a
typically dormant statutory provision. See generally 2 Paul H. Robinson,
Crim. L. Def. § 122 (2024) (“But the question of whether the justified actor
who acts without the requisite purpose or knowledge should be
exculpated, is clearly independent of the question of whether the
mistakenly unjustified actor should be.”); id. (describing case law
addressing facts like those here as “rare”). Still, the legislature’s
recognition of a robust self-defense justification remains tempered by
important limits.

A. The legislature recognizes a “robust” self-defense
justification.

The State worries our interpretation of the self-defense statute will
encourage a new Wild West, shoot first and ask questions later mentality.
But of course it is the legislature rather than the courts setting the policy.
And the legislature explained at the beginning of the self-defense statute
that it was leaning into the “robust self-defense rights that citizens of this
state have always enjoyed.” I.C. § 35-41-3-2(a).

In any event, the State’s own approach results in shooting first and
asking questions later. What differs is who gets shot and what questions
we’re asking. If Turner behaved as the State says he should have, then
Briscoe would have shot him first, and the courts would be analyzing the
legal questions surrounding charges against Briscoe.

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The State’s concern also seems to reflect a misunderstanding of the role
hindsight plays here. Turner’s shooting was justified only because he was
right; he really was about to be shot. But it would not be justified if it
turned out he was wrong.

Suppose for example that the driver turned out to be an innocent food
delivery driver who was in a hurry, a reckless teenager who enjoyed
squealing their tires, or even an unarmed Briscoe who was just trying to
startle Turner. Then the shooting wouldn’t be justified under the statute.
Shooting at the car wouldn’t have been necessary for Turner to protect
himself, so the core self-defense justification wouldn’t apply. And we
would have to defer to the trial court’s evidence-based conclusion that the
mistake wasn’t reasonable, so the statutory grace for reasonable mistakes
discussed in Section II wouldn’t apply to justify the shooting either. See,
e.g., Hall v. State, 231 N.E.3d 868, 875 (Ind. Ct. App. 2024) (rejecting the
self-defense justification where the defendant claimed he shot the victim
to defend against the victim swinging a knife, “but no knife was found at
the scene,” and the jury concluded the defendant did not reasonably fear a
knife), trans. denied. By foreclosing any grace for even honest yet
unreasonable mistakes, there is no incentive for reckless behavior.

B. There are several important limits on the self-
defense justification.

Our case law recognizes several other important limits on the self-
defense justification that today’s opinion does not change.

First, the self-defense justification still requires that the defendant “was
in a place where he had a right to be” and “acted without fault.” Larkin v.
State, 173 N.E.3d 662, 670 (Ind. 2021). “A person who provokes, instigates,
or participates willingly in the violence does not act without fault for the
purposes of self-defense.” Richardson v. State, 79 N.E.3d 958, 964 (Ind. Ct.
App. 2017). For example, we’ve rejected the self-defense justification
where the defendant claimed that he feared violent retribution that was
provoked by his own “initial confrontation and violent epithet.” Henson v.
State, 786 N.E.2d 274, 278 (Ind. 2003). Here, Turner had a right to be at
Grice’s house, and he was fleeing rather than confronting Briscoe.

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Second, a self-defense justification cannot be based on a mere verbal
threat because “oftentimes combatants make threats of violence which are
never carried out.” Id. Relatedly, the feared harm must be imminent. Just a
few months ago, we denied transfer in a case where the Court of Appeals
affirmed a murder conviction over a self-defense claim. The victims had
previously, and repeatedly, threatened to kill the defendant—including
showing up to his workplace and pointing a gun at him—and then they
showed up armed to a gas station where the defendant was a customer.
Harris v. State, 239 N.E.3d 35 (Ind. Ct. App. 2024), trans. denied. Seconds
after they entered the gas station, the defendant shot and killed them.

Neither the trial court nor appellate court doubted the sincerity of the
defendant’s subjective fear of the victims, but the courts concluded the
defendant did not face an imminent threat, and it wasn’t reasonable for
him to fear violence was imminent. Like this case, appellate review
required deference to the trial court’s decision that the defendant’s fear
was not reasonable. But unlike this case—where the trial court concluded
Briscoe was about to shoot Turner—the trial court in Harris concluded that
shooting the victims was not necessary for the defendant to avoid an
imminent threat of harm because the victims had not yet seen the
defendant. Id.

Third, “[w]hen a defendant arms himself or herself with a weapon
before an imminent threat exists in a premeditated strategy to retaliate for
past violence (rather than to protect against the imminent use of unlawful
force),” self-defense does not justify using force. Henson, 786 N.E.2d at 278.
That is because “[w]hile the criminal code is willing to excuse the use of
force in certain circumstances to protect against certain unlawful activity,
it does not countenance and will not sanction premeditated retaliation for
past violence.” Id. Turner only armed himself because he correctly
believed he was in danger, not in retaliation for any past disagreement.

Fourth, “[w]here a person has used more force than necessary to repel
an attack the right to self-defense is extinguished, and the ultimate result
is that the victim then becomes the perpetrator.” Weedman v. State, 21
N.E.3d 873, 892 (Ind. Ct. App. 2014). Turner stopped shooting when
Briscoe drove away, using no more force than necessary.

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Our concurring colleague is “skeptical” that these limits remain after
today’s opinion, offering this hypothetical to illustrate why:

Take, for example, a defendant who, while idling at a stop
light, encounters his rival in an adjacent vehicle—a rival known
to frequently carry a gun. If the rival lowers his window to lob
threats of violence but fails to reveal a weapon, what’s to stop
our hypothetical defendant from responding by firing his own
gun into the rival’s car?

Post, at 5.

Ironically, this point is made in an opinion concurring in the judgment
and agreeing that Turner’s shooting was justified when he confronted the
essential facts of the hypothetical. Briscoe is the “rival known to
frequently carry a gun” who decided to “lob threats of violence but
fail[ed] to reveal a weapon.” Id. Turner then “respond[ed] by firing his
own gun into the rival’s car.” Id.

So it is true, as the concurring opinion observes, that “with today’s
decision, the defendant”—both in Turner’s case and in the hypothetical—
“need neither observe an imminent threat of harm nor reasonably believe
in the presence of such threat.” Post, at 5. But that is true under the
concurring opinion too, which also concludes Turner’s shooting was
justified even though our concurring colleague acknowledges Turner
didn’t know what Briscoe looked like, didn’t know what kind of car
Briscoe drove, couldn’t see inside Briscoe’s car, and never saw a gun.

The key difference between the two opinions is that the Court’s opinion
vacates the conviction only because Turner’s fear proved accurate in
hindsight—the magistrate judge concluded Turner had to shoot Briscoe to
avoid being shot. Because the magistrate judge concluded that Turner’s
fear was unreasonable, we would not set aside the conviction if that fear
proved unfounded. In contrast, the concurring opinion concludes that
Turner’s shooting would have been justified even if it was unnecessary;
even if it turned out that Turner mistakenly shot a completely innocent
bystander. That approach, which shows no deference to the trial court’s

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evaluation of reasonableness, would dramatically expand the self-defense
justification and contract our appellate deference to trial court evidence
weighing.

Still, there is important overlap between this opinion and the
concurring opinion. The concurring opinion says that to “avoid” “creating
uncertainty in the law” and “leading to potentially harmful consequences
for Hoosiers,” we should “adhere to the principle set forth in Trogdon—a
principle endorsed by modern scholars of the criminal law.” Post, at 7.
That is, we must “stress[] that privilege of self-defense does not accrue
until there is the appearance of danger, either real or imaginary,” and
“insist[] that a defendant must actually believe in the necessity for force,”
and “that he has no defense when he intentionally kills his enemy in
complete ignorance of the fact that his enemy, when killed, was about to
launch a deadly attack upon him.” Id. (emphasis in original, quotations
and citations omitted). We agree, and Turner’s shooting was within these
limits.

As both opinions reflect, the legislature’s statutory protection for the
“robust self-defense rights that citizens of this state have always enjoyed”
has important limits. I.C. § 35-41-3-2(a). But none of those limits require
martyrdom in service of reasonableness. So Turner didn’t have to take a
bullet as the most reasonable thing to do; the law permitted him to save
his own life.

Conclusion
For these reasons, we vacate Turner’s conviction and sentence.

Rush, C.J., and Massa and Slaughter, JJ., concur.
Goff, J., concurs in the judgment with separate opinion.

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ATTORNEY FOR APPELLANT
Bryan L. Cook
Attorney at Law
Carmel, Indiana

ATTORNEYS FOR APPELLEE
Theodore E. Rokita
Attorney General of Indiana

Caroline G. Templeton
Supervising Deputy Attorney General

Alexandria Sons
Deputy Attorney General
Indianapolis, Indiana

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Goff, J., concurring in the judgment.

Should the merits of a self-defense claim depend on the defendant
having acted with knowledge of the justifying circumstances, even if his
conduct is objectively justified in hindsight? Facing this very question well
over a century ago, this Court held that a defendant who acted out of no
apparent necessity to preserve life or limb may not “interpose the defense
of self-defense” simply because it “subsequently appears that there was
actual danger, of which he was at the time ignorant.” Trogdon v. State, 32
N.E. 725, 727 (Ind. 1892).

The Court today reaches the opposite conclusion, holding sua sponte
that, under an obscure and otherwise dormant provision of our self-
defense statute, “Turner’s use of force was justified not because his belief
that he was about to be shot was reasonable but because that belief was
correct, and force really was necessary to protect himself.” Ante, at 17.
Defendants like Turner, the Court opines, enjoy “the benefit of hindsight”
when the evidence “reveals their conduct was necessary in self-defense,
even though that necessity wasn’t fully apparent in the moment.” Id. at 3.

In my view, the statutory provision on which the Court relies is less
than clear. And its novel interpretation, I fear, will create uncertainty in
the law, leading to potentially harmful consequences. What’s more, even
if I were to agree with the Court’s interpretation, its holding rests on a
flawed premise—there’s simply nothing in the record to support the
conclusion that “Turner avoided being shot by Briscoe only by shooting
Briscoe first.” See ante, at 8. For these reasons, and because I believe the
Court’s novel statutory interpretation is entirely unnecessary to give
Turner relief, I concur only in the Court’s judgment.

I. The Court’s decision lacks supporting authority,
creates legal uncertainty, and rests on a false
premise.
Under Indiana’s self-defense statute, a “person is justified in using
reasonable force against any other person to protect the person or a third

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person” from what he or she “reasonably believes to be the imminent use
of unlawful force.” Ind. Code § 35-41-3-2(c). The statute further justifies
the use of “deadly force” and imposes no duty to retreat if the person
“reasonably believes” that such force is “necessary to prevent serious
bodily injury to the person or a third person or the commission of a
forcible felony.” Id. Finally, the statute concludes by stating that “[n]o
person, employer, or estate of a person in this state shall be placed in legal
jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting the person or a third
person by reasonable means necessary.” Id.

The Court’s decision turns on this last sentence of the statute—the
Legal Jeopardy Clause (or just Clause), as I refer to it.

A. Well-settled principles of statutory interpretation
undermine the Court’s novel reading of the Clause.
According to the Court, the Legal Jeopardy Clause simply codifies the
“core self-defense justification” for a person facing prosecution, and it
extends that protection to those facing “derivative liability.” Ante, at 13.
With this much, I agree. But the Court doesn’t stop there. Instead, it goes
on to conclude that, because the only reference to reasonableness relates to
the “means used” for protection, the Clause reflects an “objective
standard,” so justification for self-defense depends only on “the accuracy
of the defendant’s belief, not its reasonableness.” Id. at 14.

I’m left unpersuaded.

To begin with, while the “words” of the Clause themselves may be
unambiguous when read in isolation, see id. at 13, precedent instructs us to
“avoid interpretations that depend on selective reading of individual
words,” especially when such interpretations “lead to irrational and
disharmonizing results.” ESPN, Inc. v. Univ. of Notre Dame Police Dep’t, 62
N.E.3d 1192, 1195 (Ind. 2016) (citation omitted). Instead, we must consider
“the structure of the statute as a whole.” Id. (citation omitted). Applying
this well-settled principle of statutory interpretation, the Clause’s “core
self-defense justification,” in my view—and as the statute as a whole
contemplates—turns on whether the person “reasonably believes” the

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circumstances call for the use of force. See I.C. § 35-41-3-2(c). By focusing
on the absence of this language in a single sentence of the statute, and by
reading the Clause in isolation, the Court undermines the “statute’s
underlying policy and goals.” See Culver Cmty. Tchrs. Ass’n v. Ind. Educ.
Emp. Rels. Bd., 174 N.E.3d 601, 605 (Ind. 2021). Reading the Clause with the
rest of subsection (c), by contrast, shows the statute was intended to
require reasonable belief, even when the justification is proven accurate in
hindsight.

Second, the legislature clearly spelled out when using reasonable force
or deadly force is “justified.” See I.C. § 35-41-3-2(c). Critically, there’s no
similar language in the Clause itself—a contiguous provision under the
same statutory subsection. See id. It seems evident, then, that, had the
legislature intended to create an accurate-in-hindsight justification, “it
could have easily done so with slight modification to the wording of the
statute” or it could have structured the Clause as a separate subsection.
See Sullivan Corp. v. Rabco Enters., LLC, 160 N.E.3d 1124, 1127 (Ind. Ct.
App. 2020) (citation omitted); see also Paul H. Robinson, The Unknowingly
Justified Actor—Knowledge, Purpose, and Motive in Justifications, 2 Crim. L.
Def. § 122(f), at 28 (1984) (citing statutes with and without “belief”
language and urging legislatures to clearly distinguish between the
“excuse of an actor who is mistakenly unjustified and the justification of
an actor who is unknowingly justified”).

Finally, as noted above, this Court has held that a defendant who acted
out of no apparent necessity to preserve life or limb may not “interpose
the defense of self-defense” simply because it “subsequently appears that
there was actual danger, of which he was at the time ignorant.” Trogdon,
32 N.E. at 727. The legislature, of course, may enact statutes that modify or
abrogate the common law. State v. Rendleman, 603 N.E.2d 1333, 1336 (Ind.
1992). But we presume the contrary “unless a statute declares otherwise in
either express terms or by unmistakable implication.” WEOC, Inc. v.
Niebauer, 226 N.E.3d 771, 777 (Ind. 2024) (internal citation and quotation
marks omitted). And, as I see it, nothing in the Clause meets this standard.
Simply because the sole reference to reasonableness attaches to the
“means” used by the defendant, it does not necessarily follow that the

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justification for use of force depends only on “the accuracy of the
defendant’s belief” in hindsight. See ante, at 14.

The Court insists that its decision here aligns with Trogdon because
there, like here, the Court concluded that a defendant cannot point to
actual danger to justify his actions in hindsight when he “deliberately and
maliciously kill[s] another.” Id. at 15. But the holding in Trogdon wasn’t so
limited, as multiple commentators have observed. See Charles A.
Thompson, Commentary to Indiana Code § 35-41-3-2, at 173–74 (West
1978) (citing Trogdon for the general proposition that, absent a “reasonable
belief to justify an assault in self-defense at its inception such assault may
not be subsequently justified by a finding of actual danger which was
unknown to the defendant at the time of the initial assault”); Note,
Justification for the Use of Force in the Criminal Law, 13 Stan. L. Rev. 566, 591
& n.106 (1961) (citing Trogdon for the basic proposition that “the courts
will not justify the use of force, even when necessary for the protection of
the actor, if he was not aware of that necessity”); Robinson, supra, § 122(e),
at 21, 22 n.18 (noting that Trogdon “is one of the few cases that can be cited
to support [the] view” that a person may successfully raise a self-defense
claim “only if they act with a justificatory intent” or with “knowledge of
the justifying circumstances”) (internal quotation marks omitted). And as
the Trogdon Court itself made clear, the “law allows one who is himself
without fault, and is in a place where he has the right to be, to protect
himself from threatened danger,” whether “actual or only apparent,” and
“to use for that purpose such force as may at the time reasonably seem
necessary, and no more.” 32 N.E. at 727 (emphasis added).

B. The Court’s novel interpretation of the Clause creates
uncertainty in the law and may lead to potentially
harmful consequences.

The Court insists that its decision here is “not a revision or expansion of
Indiana’s self-defense law.” Ante, at 19. But, as I see it, that’s precisely
what the Court’s decision accomplishes. The Court itself acknowledges
that, before today, “no court has interpreted” the Legal Jeopardy Clause
“in a reported decision.” Id. at 13. And were it not for its novel reading of

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this Clause, the Court “would have to affirm” the trial court’s decision
under our deferential standard of review. Id. at 12. In other words, the
Court’s interpretation of otherwise dormant language under our self-
defense statute creates a novel approach to analyzing self-defense claims
that may lead to a different outcome (like here) depending on the fact
pattern of a case.

To be sure, we’re often called upon to interpret or reinterpret our
statutes in novel ways, ultimately building upon our jurisprudence in a
given area of the law. See, e.g., Fix v. State, 186 N.E.3d 1134, 1139 (Ind.
2022) (interpreting our burglary statute to conclude, as a matter of first
impression, that the offense is an “ongoing” one “that encompasses a
defendant’s conduct so long as he remains in the premises”); Ladra v. State,
177 N.E.3d 412, 418 (Ind. 2021) (reinterpreting a provision of the Indiana
Tort Claims Act to avoid granting “blanket immunity to the state in every
circumstance involving inclement weather”). But neither Turner nor the
State advocated for a reading of the self-defense statute the Court now
espouses. And we should be reluctant to adopt a theory without the
exchange and vigorous testing of arguments by the parties in interest.

Absent such analytical safeguards, today’s decision threatens to open a
Pandora’s Box of unintended—and potentially harmful—consequences.
Still, the Court assures us otherwise, downplaying any concern that its
interpretation of the statute “will encourage a new Wild West.” Ante, at
19. I remain skeptical.

Take, for example, a defendant who, while idling at a stop light,
encounters his rival in an adjacent vehicle—a rival known to frequently
carry a gun. If the rival lowers his window to lob threats of violence but
fails to reveal a weapon, what’s to stop our hypothetical defendant from
responding by firing his own gun into the rival’s car? The Court submits
that a self-defense justification cannot rest on a “mere verbal threat
because ‘oftentimes combatants make threats of violence which are never
carried out.’” Id. at 21 (quoting Henson v. State, 786 N.E.2d 274, 278 (Ind.
2003)). But with today’s decision, the defendant need neither observe an
imminent threat of harm nor reasonably believe in the presence of such
threat. Even if the rival never intended to carry out his verbal threats, the

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shooting may still be justified if a gun were later discovered in the rival’s
car (at least one within the rival’s reach). See State v. Hendrix, 244 S.E.2d
503, 508 (S.C. 1978) (Gregory, J., dissenting) (citing Trogdon for the
proposition that the belief requirement “prevents a defendant from
deliberately and maliciously killing his fellow man and then interposing
the defense of self-defense because it subsequently appears there was
actual danger”). Such an approach runs contrary to a “basic proposition”
of our criminal law—that “control over criminal behavior can best be
achieved by reference to the state of mind of the actor rather than the
consequences of his act.” Note, supra, at 591.

The Court points to other “important limits on the self-defense
justification” in its effort to quell fears over its reading of the Clause. Ante,
at 20. I’m still left unpersuaded. For example, the Court insists that the
“right to self-defense is extinguished” when a person uses “more force
than necessary to repel an attack.” Id. at 21 (quoting Weedman v. State, 21
N.E.3d 873, 892 (Ind. Ct. App. 2014)). But if the necessity of the
defendant’s conduct “wasn’t fully apparent in the moment,” see id. at 3,
how does he—or a court for that matter—determine whether the force
used is in fact proportional to the threat?

Another limitation, the Court stresses, arises when a “defendant arms
himself or herself with a weapon before an imminent threat exists in a
premeditated strategy to retaliate for past violence (rather than to protect
against the imminent use of unlawful force).” Id. at 21 (quoting Henson,
786 N.E.2d at 278). But if the “core self-defense” justification embodied in
the Clause depends on “the accuracy of the defendant’s belief, not its
reasonableness,” see id. at 14, then arguably “no subjective mental elements
should play a part in the formulation of justification defenses,” see
Robinson, supra, § 122(f), at 27. If the result is justified (protection from an
imminent threat of serious bodily harm), then why make any distinction
between the unknowingly justified actor and the improperly motivated
one? See id. (suggesting that “an objectively justified actor should have a
justification defense no matter what knowledge, purpose, disregard, or
ignorance he may have”).

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The Court’s decision fails to address these issues, creating uncertainty
in the law and leading to potentially harmful consequences for Hoosiers.
To avoid such an outcome, I would adhere to the principle set forth in
Trogdon—a principle endorsed by modern scholars of the criminal law.
See, e.g., Thompson, supra, at 174 (stressing that the “privilege of self-
defense does not accrue until there is the appearance of danger, either real
or imaginary”); Wayne R. LaFave, Reasonable Belief in Necessity for Force, 2
Substantive Crim. L. § 10.4(c), at 203–04 (3d ed. 2018) (insisting that a
“defendant must actually believe in the necessity for force,” adding that he
“has no defense when he intentionally kills his enemy in complete
ignorance of the fact that his enemy, when killed, was about to launch a
deadly attack upon him”).

C. Even if the Court’s interpretation were agreeable, its
holding rests on a flawed premise.
Even if I were to agree that the Legal Jeopardy Clause justifies the
actions of an unknowingly justified defendant, the Court’s holding rests
on a flawed premise—namely, that “Turner avoided being shot by Briscoe
only by shooting Briscoe first.” See ante, at 8. According to the Court,
“Turner’s use of force was justified not because his belief that he was
about to be shot was reasonable but because that belief was correct, and
force really was necessary to protect himself.” Id. at 17. The Court reaches
this conclusion based on the trial judge’s purported determination that
“Briscoe was lying when he testified, and he had drawn his gun to shoot
Turner just before Turner shot him first.” Id. (emphasis added). The Court
echoes this point throughout its opinion, claiming that “Briscoe was aiming
a handgun to shoot Turner just before Turner began firing.” Id. at 2
(emphasis added); see also id. at 5 (insisting that Briscoe was “aiming to
shoot Turner”); id. at 12 (suggesting that Briscoe had “been preparing to
shoot” Turner).

The problem is the record doesn’t support this conclusion. The only
determination the trial court reached was that, given the fact that his gun
was found unholstered in the passenger seat, Briscoe “likely dr[e]w his
gun inside of that car and probably had bad intent.” Tr. Vol. 2, p. 126. But

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unholstering a gun with “bad intent” is not the same as “aiming a handgun
to shoot” someone. And the trial court drew no inference to the contrary.
For all we know, and for all the trial judge knew, Briscoe could have
drawn his gun from the holster not with the goal of pulling the trigger but,
rather, with the purpose of brandishing it to scare Turner into fleeing.

Still, the Court insists that “even the State agreed” the trial court
“concluded Turner confronted a ‘shoot or be shot’ predicament.” Ante, at
18 (citing Pet. to Trans. at 4, 11). But the State clarified its position at oral
argument, expressly “disagree[ing]” with the proposition that the “judge
found that Briscoe was pointing the gun at Turner.” Though
acknowledging the trial court had found that Briscoe “had drawn his
gun,” the State characterized as “pure speculation” the judge’s “comment
that he believed that [Briscoe] was pointing the gun.” Oral Argument at
19:47–20:22.

Simply put, there is no basis in the record or reasonable inference from
the evidence to support the Court’s conclusion that “Turner avoided being
shot by Briscoe only by shooting Briscoe first.” See ante, at 8.

II. Under the “reasonable belief” standard, the
circumstances here justified Turner’s actions.
Finally, the Court’s novel interpretation of the statute, in my view, is
entirely unnecessary to give Turner relief.

In a challenge to the sufficiency of the evidence to rebut a claim of self-
defense, the standard of review is the same for any sufficiency-of-the-
evidence claim: an appellate court neither reweighs the evidence nor
judges the credibility of witnesses, leaving the verdict undisturbed if
sufficient evidence of probative value supports the factfinder’s conclusion.
Wilson v. State, 770 N.E.2d 799, 801 (Ind. 2002). If the defendant stands
convicted of the charged offense despite a claim of self-defense, reversal is
warranted only if no reasonable person could say that self-defense was
negated by the State beyond a reasonable doubt. Id. at 800–01.

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Here, Turner isn’t asking this Court to reweigh the evidence or assess
the credibility of witnesses. Appellant’s Br. at 12. He argues instead that
the trial court, while making the proper findings of fact, misinterpreted
and misapplied Indiana’s self-defense statute. Id. The law, he contends,
requires “only reasonable knowledge and belief that the use of self-
defense is justified,” not “perfect knowledge and belief.” Pet. to Trans. at
4. And his fear of death or bodily harm was reasonable, he insists, given
the “direct evidence of serious threats by Briscoe against Turner paired
with strong circumstantial evidence that the erratically driven car was
being driven by Briscoe to carry out his declared threats.” Reply in
Support of Trans. at 4.

I agree.

Indiana’s self-defense statute establishes “both an objective and
subjective standard” to evaluate the reasonableness of a defendant’s belief
that force was necessary to protect against the imminent use of unlawful
force. Littler v. State, 871 N.E.2d 276, 279 (Ind. 2007) (internal citation
omitted). Under the subjective standard, the defendant must have
“actually believed” force was necessary. Id. And under the objective
standard, the defendant’s belief must be one that a “reasonable person”
would form given the circumstances. Id.

Applying these standards, the circumstances here, in my view, clearly
justify Turner’s actions: he knew that Briscoe owned a gun; he overheard
Briscoe make angry, profanity-laced remarks to Nyah (his study partner)
over the phone; Briscoe threatened to “pull up on” Turner, which Turner
understood to mean that he’d be “coming to harm” him; and, not long
after that tense exchange, a vehicle sped up to Turner—its engine revving
and tires squealing—just as Turner had walked away from his own car
parked in the cul-de-sac of a suburban, residential neighborhood. Tr. Vol.
2, pp. 89–90.

Though Turner couldn’t definitively say whether it was Briscoe in the
car or whether Briscoe was pointing a gun at him, as the trial court
stressed, the law didn’t require him to. The touchstone of self-defense is

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reasonable belief, not absolute certainty.1 See Brand v. State, 766 N.E.2d 772,
781 (Ind. Ct. App. 2002) (citation omitted) (noting that a defendant’s belief
of “apparent danger” does not require that the danger be actual—only
that the belief be in good faith). And Turner testified that, given the
circumstances, he believed it “had to be” Briscoe “pulling up,” that there
was “[no] way it wasn’t.” Tr. Vol. 2, pp. 91, 103 (emphases added). In short,
Turner wasn’t acting based on “threats alone,” as the trial court found,
but, rather, on the circumstances before him at the time, which he
reasonably believed placed him in grave danger. See Brown v. State, 265
N.E.2d 699, 701 (Ind. 1971) (reasonableness of a defendant’s actions must
be analyzed based on what he knew “at the time”).

To be sure, Turner stood in the driveway while Briscoe’s car stopped on
the street at the edge of the driveway. But that didn’t necessarily remove
Turner from imminent danger. To the contrary, the distance between them
was relatively short, and the car could have easily accelerated and struck
Turner or run him over. Indeed, Turner testified at trial that, just as he
stepped onto the driveway, the car was “right on [his] heels,” leading him
to “believe” that if he “were to stop,” the car “would keep going and hit
[him].” Tr. Vol. 2, p. 91. What’s more, given his knowledge that Briscoe
owned a gun, and given his conviction that Briscoe occupied the car,
Turner—in his mind—was faced with either acting to protect himself or
waiting until Briscoe ran him over or drew his weapon to fire. With “no
cover” and “nowhere to hide” from these perceived threats, id. at 92
(emphases added), Turner’s fear of death or bodily harm at the time was
reasonable, thus justifying his actions.2 Cf. Stewart v. State, 167 N.E.3d 367,

1As the Court points out, “a person is justified in using force to defend against someone
pointing an unloaded gun if the person in fear reasonably believes the gun is loaded.” Ante, at
11. Under the standard applied by the trial court, by contrast, no person could successfully
claim self-defense if they couldn’t definitively say whether the assailant’s pointed gun was
loaded. Cf. Hall v. State, 166 N.E.3d 406, 414 (Ind. Ct. App. 2021) (rejecting a self-defense claim
where the victim possessed a gun but made no “threatening gestures toward anyone” and
had earlier “proclaimed more than once that she did not have any bullets”).
2The attached exhibit, an overhead picture of the cul-de-sac layout in which the events
unfolded, illustrates Turner’s predicament.

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377 (Ind. Ct. App. 2021) (holding that self-defense claim failed where the
evidence “clear[ly]” showed that the defendant “was able to leave” her
aggressors and “was no longer under physical threat when she retrieved
her gun” before returning to shoot).

In short, given his repeated—and unwavering—testimony that he “just
knew” it was Briscoe in the car, that he “believe[ed]” he was in harm’s
way, and that he “knew” he had to act to prevent that harm, Turner
clearly met the subjective standard of our self-defense statute. Tr. Vol. 2, p.
91. And with the trial judge’s admission that he may “have done the same
thing” under the circumstances, id. at 127, Turner likewise met the
statute’s objective standard. Though there may be evidence to support the
trial court’s findings that Turner “couldn’t see inside of this car” and
“couldn’t see a gun,” id. at 126, the standard imposed by the court—one
akin to requiring an irrebuttable knowledge of imminent harm—simply
asks too much of a defendant to justify his actions.

Conclusion
For the reasons above, I concur only in the Court’s judgment.

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Source: Frix Law Library, https://www.frixlaw.com/law-library/cases/10821926. Public record. Not legal advice.