# Cactil, LLC v. United States

> District Court, S.D. California · January 15, 2025

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## Case

- **Court:** District Court, S.D. California
- **Decided:** January 15, 2025
- **Opinion:** 100trialcourt
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8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
9 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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11 CACTIL, LLC d/b/a MyChargeBack.com, Case No.: 24cv1270-LL-AHG

12 Petitioner,
INTERIM ORDER FOR
13 v. SUPPLEMENTAL BRIEFING RE
PETITION
14 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

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18 Before the Court is Petitioner Cactil, LLC’s (“Cactil”) Petition for Return of
19 Property Pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 41(g). ECF No. 30 (“Petition” or
20 “Pet.”).1 Respondent the United States of America (“the Government”) filed an opposition
21 [ECF No. 20 (“Opposition” or “Oppo.”)], and Petitioner filed a Reply [ECF No. 28
22 (“Reply”)].2 For the reasons set forth below, the Court finds it has jurisdiction to decide
23 the merits of Cactil’s Petition and orders supplemental briefing.
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1 Citations to docketed materials refer to the CM/ECF information printed at the top of
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27 2 Cactil filed a Notice of Supplemental Information in Support of its Rule 41(g) Petition
[ECF No. 31], and the Government filed a Motion to Strike Cactil, LLC’s Unauthorized
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1 I. BACKGROUND
2 The following factual allegations are contained in the Petition.
3 On June 26, 2024, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a seizure
4 warrant for the website domain MyChargeBack.com, which is owned and operated by
5 Cactil. Pet. at 5. The application provided in support of obtaining the seizure warrant is
6 under seal and has not been disclosed to Cactil. Id.at 7.
7 Cactil is “a financial consulting company founded in 2016 that assists customers
8 who are the victims of financial fraud by providing those individuals information and
9 advice that can help them dispute unauthorized charges with their banks and/or trace and
10 locate stolen cryptocurrency in an effort to recover it.” Id. at 6. Approximately one-third
11 of Cactil’s business provided banking and credit card dispute services, and two-thirds
12 provided cryptocurrency investigative services. Id.
13 Cactil’s website had a portal on a sub-domain that provided “real-time access to
14 client case status and updates” and hosted a client center that provided secured messaging
15 capabilities for active clients. Id. Cactil’s “email domain is linked to the
16 MyChargeBack.com website through a third-party security tool” and “when the domain
17 was seized, access to the company’s email server was blocked, severing email
18 communications.” Id. at 6–7.
19 The seizure warrant included the following:
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23 Sur-Reply [ECF No. 32]. Cactil then filed an alternative Motion for Leave to File Notice
of Supplemental Information [ECF No. 33], which the Government opposed [ECF No. 34].
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Cactil filed an additional Motion to File Supplemental Notice in Support of its Rule 41(g)
25 Petition [ECF No. 35], which the Government moved to strike [ECF No. 36]. The Court
DENIES AS MOOT the motions for leave to file notice of supplemental information
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[ECF Nos. 33, 35] and the motions to strike [ECF Nos. 32, 36] because the supplemental
27 information was not needed for the Court to make its determination. If appropriate, Cactil
may incorporate its proffered supplemental information in the supplemental briefing
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1 The Government will display a notice on the website to which the
Subject Domain will resolve. That notice will consist of law enforcement
emblems and the following text (or substantially similar text):
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A “This domain has been seized by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in
accordance with a seizure warrant issued pursuant to 18 U.S.C. §§ 981,
5 982, by the United States District Court for the Southern District of
6 California as part of a joint law enforcement action by:
7 The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of California
g Federal Bureau of Investigation.
9 For additional information, see https://www.justice.gov”
10 || ECF No. 30-1 at 4—5. The statutes referenced in the notice authorized by the warrant are
11 || provisions for civil and criminal forfeiture. /d. at 8; 18 U.S.C. §§ 981, 982.
12 After the website was seized, the following notice was posted on it:
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1 stated, inter alia, that several companies which offer “cryptocurrency refund” services
2 were being investigated, including MyChargeBack.com; that “sometimes, they do manage
3 to get money back” but “most” of the business “is a scam to revictimize [customers]”; that
4 the seizure was a “first step in preventing further fraud from occurring”; that the notice was
5 a “public service” and “a reporting mechanism for victims”; and that the investigation was
6 “only focusing on the crypto recovery side” of MyChargeBack.com’s business and not the
7 credit card chargeback services. Pet. at 8–9; ECF No. 30-2, Declaration of John Ghose
8 (“Ghose Decl.”), ¶¶ 4–9.
9 Cactil filed its Petition on July 22, 2024 under seal. ECF Nos. 1, 5. When its motion
10 to unseal the Petition was granted, Cactil refiled the Petition on the docket. ECF
11 Nos. 29, 30.
12 II. LEGAL STANDARD
13 Under Rule 41(g) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, “[a] person aggrieved
14 by an unlawful search and seizure of property or by the deprivation of property may move
15 for the property's return” and if granted, “the court must return the property to the movant,
16 but may impose reasonable conditions to protect access to the property and its use in later
17 proceedings.” Fed. R. Crim. P. 41(g). Rule 41(g) is ordinarily used to seek return of
18 property after an indictment is issued, but when there are no criminal proceedings pending
19 against the movant, a district court has discretion to hear the motion as a civil equitable
20 proceeding. United States v. Kama, 394 F.3d 1236, 1237–38 (9th Cir. 2005) (quoting
21 Ramsden v. United States, 2 F.3d 322, 324 (9th Cir.1993)).
22 Because courts must “exercise ‘caution and restraint’ before assuming jurisdiction”
23 over a Rule 41(g) motion, they must consider the following four factors to determine if
24 jurisdiction is warranted: “1) whether the Government displayed a callous disregard for the
25 constitutional rights of the movant; 2) whether the movant has an individual interest in and
26 need for the property he wants returned; 3) whether the movant would be irreparably
27 injured by denying return of the property; and 4) whether the movant has an adequate
28 remedy at law for the redress of his grievance.” Ramsden, 2 F.3d at 324–25 (citations
1 omitted). If jurisdiction is warranted, the court turns to the merits and “considers whether
2 the government’s retention of the property would be reasonable under all of the
3 circumstances.” Kardoh v. United States, 572 F.3d 697, 700 (9th Cir. 2009) (citing
4 Ramsden, 2 F.3d at 326). “The United States’ retention of the property generally is
5 reasonable if it has a need for the property in an investigation or prosecution.” Ramsden,
6 2 F.3d at 326. “However, if the United States’ legitimate interests can be satisfied even if
7 the property is returned, continued retention of the property would become unreasonable.”
8 Id. (internal quotation marks and citation omitted).
9 When there are no criminal proceedings pending at the time of filing, the Rule 41(g)
10 motion is treated as a civil complaint governed by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure,
11 and the government’s opposition to a Rule 41(g) motion is treated as the equivalent of a
12 Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss. United States v. Ibrahim,
13 522 F.3d 1003, 1007 (9th Cir. 2008) (citing United States v. Ritchie, 342 F.3d 903, 906–07
14 (9th Cir. 2003)). If the court cannot decide the matter on the pleadings, it must convert the
15 government’s opposition into a motion for summary judgment. Id. at 1008. If the
16 government is unable to meet the summary judgment standard, “the motion for return of
17 property (now being treated as a civil complaint) should not be dismissed at the summary
18 judgment stage, and the court should go forward with additional proceedings consistent
19 with the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.” Id. “Rule 41(g) requires the district court to
20 ‘receive evidence on any factual issue necessary to decide the motion,’ but it does not
21 specifically require an in-person hearing.” United States v. Cantu, 667 F. App’x 611, 612
22 (9th Cir. 2016) (quoting Fed. R. Crim. P. 41(g)).
23 III. DISCUSSION
24 The Government argues that Cactil’s Rule 41(g) Petition should be denied because
25 18 U.S.C. § 983 applies and Cactil cannot show entitlement to relief under that statute and
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1 its conditions for the release of seized property. Oppo. at 8. It further argues that even if
2 Rule 41(g) applies, the Ramsden factors weigh against this Court exercising equitable
3 jurisdiction. Id.
4 As a preliminary matter, the Court finds that Cactil’s Petition for the return of its
5 seized property is properly brought under Rule 41(g). Section 983 governs civil forfeiture
6 proceedings, however there is no evidence that the Government has filed a civil forfeiture
7 action for Cactil’s website. See 18 U.S.C. § 983. Thus, in the absence of a pending civil
8 forfeiture action or a pending criminal proceeding against Cactil, Rule 41(g) is appropriate.
9 Ibrahim, 522 F.3d at 1007; Kama, 394 F.3d at 1237–38 (quoting Ramsden, 2 F.3d at 324);
10 see also United States v. U.S. Currency $83,310.78, 851 F.2d 1231, 1235 (9th Cir. 1988)
11 (“Accordingly, when a civil forfeiture proceeding is pending, there is no need to fashion
12 an equitable remedy to secure justice for the claimant.”).
13 The Court next considers whether it should exercise equitable jurisdiction by
14 balancing the Ramsden factors. Because no criminal proceeding is pending, the Court
15 construes Cactil’s Petition as a complaint and the Government’s Opposition as a motion to
16 dismiss.4 Ibrahim, 522 F.3d at 1007 (9th Cir. 2008). As such, courts “accept factual
17 allegations in the complaint as true and construe the pleadings in the light most favorable
18 to the nonmoving party.” Manzarek v. St. Paul Fire & Marine Ins. Co., 519 F.3d 1025,
19 1031 (9th Cir. 2008). Nonetheless, courts do not “accept as true allegations that are merely
20 conclusory, unwarranted deductions of fact, or unreasonable inferences.” In re Gilead Scis.
21 Secs. Litig., 536 F.3d 1049, 1055 (9th Cir. 2008) (quoting Sprewell v. Golden State
22 Warriors, 266 F.3d 979, 988 (9th Cir. 2001)). A court may “consider certain materials—
23 documents attached to the complaint, documents incorporated by reference in the
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27 4 For clarity, the Court will refer to Cactil’s Rule 41(g) motion as “the Petition,” the
Government’s brief as “the Opposition,” and Cactil’s reply as “the Reply” throughout this
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1 complaint, or matters of judicial notice—without converting the motion to dismiss into a
2 motion for summary judgment.” Ritchie, 342 F.3d at 908.
3 A. Equitable Jurisdiction
4 1. Callous Disregard
5 Cactil contends that the Government callously disregarded its Fourth Amendment
6 rights by “exceeding the purpose and scope of the Court’s seizure warrant.” Pet. at 13.
7 Specifically, it argues that the Government’s actions were unlawful because (1) the
8 Government “purposefully used a Rule 41 seizure warrant as a blunt tool to destroy a
9 business based solely on ex parte, under seal allegations of misconduct;” (2) its entire
10 business was intentionally disrupted, “including business offerings that are not subject to
11 criminal investigation;” (3) the Government posted images and warnings on the seized
12 website that “clearly exceed the limited notice authorized by the Court’s warrant;” (4) the
13 Government “misappropriated the MyChargeBack.com domain to accuse Cactil of fraud
14 and conspiracy to commit fraud and to encourage Cactil customers to assist in the
15 government’s investigation;” and (5) Cactil was improperly deprived “of its access to its
16 business email and other related services, a restriction that is not authorized by the Court’s
17 warrant.” Id.
18 The Court finds the valid seizure warrant, supported by a finding of probable cause,
19 defeats most of Cactil’s arguments regarding callous disregard of its Fourth Amendment
20 rights. “It is the magistrate's responsibility to determine whether the officer's allegations
21 establish probable cause and, if so, to issue a warrant comporting in form with the
22 requirements of the Fourth Amendment.” United States v. Leon, 468 U.S. 897, 921 (1984).
23 Although the application for the seizure warrant is under seal, this is not an indication that
24 probable cause was lacking. The warrant authorized the seizure of the domain
25 MyChargeBack.com. ECF No. 30-1 at 4. It was not limited to certain parts of the domain.
26 Id. When the domain was seized, it deprived Cactil of access to its functionality—including
27 email—and disrupted its entire business. The Court finds this to be a logical and likely
28 outcome when a business website domain is seized, rather than a callous disregard of any
1 constitutional rights. See In re Chandler, 270 F.R.D. 576, 579 (S.D. Cal. 2010) (“[T]he
2 government has not acted with ‘callous disregard’ of the constitutional rights of movants,
3 as the government seized the property pursuant to a warrant issued by a neutral fact
4 finder.”).
5 Whether the Government exceeded the purpose and scope of the seizure warrant in
6 regard to the notice posted on the website is a closer call. The manner in which a warrant
7 is executed is subject to a judicial review of its reasonableness. Dalia v. United States,
8 441 U.S. 238, 258 (1979). The seizure warrant directed a notice to be displayed on the
9 website consisting of law enforcement emblems and substantially similar text to fairly
10 neutral language regarding the seizure of the domain by the FBI. ECF No. 30-1 at 4–5. The
11 actual notice includes a shadowy figure and graphics in the background of the text and a
12 large title indicating that the website has been seized. Pet. at 8. The text of the actual notice
13 differs in two sections to the language authorized in the warrant: (1) instead of including
14 the statutes for criminal and civil forfeiture, it includes statutes for criminal wire fraud and
15 conspiracy to commit fraud; and (2) it adds a sentence providing an email to people who
16 believe they have been the victims of a cryptocurrency return fraud scheme and wish to
17 contact the FBI. Pet. at 8.
18 The Court finds the title, shadowy figure, and graphics to be substantially similar to
19 what was permitted in the warrant and not an unreasonable execution of the warrant. The
20 graphics and figure could be interpreted as representing law enforcement and is sufficiently
21 vague and thus, neutral. The Court does not find them to exceed the scope of the warrant
22 that allowed law enforcement emblems and notice that the FBI seized the domain.
23 The text that refers to the criminal statutes and the fraud scheme, however, is not
24 substantially similar to what was permitted by the warrant. The Court finds their inclusion
25 to be an unreasonable execution of the warrant because nothing in the warrant permitted
26 reference to a cryptocurrency return fraud scheme, criminal wire fraud, or conspiracy to
27 commit fraud. Cf. Warkentine v. Soria, 152 F. Supp. 3d 1269, 1286 (E.D. Cal. 2016) (“The
28 requirement that warrants shall particularly describe the things to be seized makes general
1 searches under them impossible and prevents the seizure of one thing under a warrant
2 describing another. As to what is to be taken, nothing is left to the discretion of the officer
3 executing the warrant.” (quoting Stanford v. State of Tex., 379 U.S. 476, 485–86 (1965))).
4 Accordingly, the Court finds Cactil has demonstrated a callous disregard for its
5 constitutional rights during the execution of the seizure warrant when the Government
6 included text in the notice that exceeded the terms of the warrant. This factor weighs toward
7 exercising equitable jurisdiction.
8 2. Individual Interest In and Need for the Property
9 There is no dispute that Cactil owns the seized website domain. Oppo. at 21. Cactil
10 argues that it cannot operate its business without its website. Pet. at 16. The Government
11 contends that the seizure does not prevent Cactil from operating its business using its other
12 websites. Oppo. at 21.
13 The Court finds Cactil has demonstrated an individual interest in and need for the
14 website domain. Cactil disputes the Government’s contention that it owns at least four
15 other websites similar to MyChargeBack.com. Reply at 12–13. However, even if Cactil
16 owns other websites offering similar services, this does not defeat Cactil’s argument that it
17 cannot operate the business of MyChargeBack.com without control of the website and its
18 email. See Ramsden, 2 F.3d at 325 (finding Ramsden has an interest in and need for the
19 documents seized because they were necessary for Ramsden to run his business). This
20 factor weighs toward exercising equitable jurisdiction.
21 3. Irreparable Injury
22 Cactil contends that it will be irreparably harmed if the website is not returned
23 because it “cannot properly communicate with its clients regarding its services, the status
24 of its work, or even the government’s allegations.” Pet. at 16. Cactil further argues that the
25 seizure and the notice are damaging Cactil’s reputation with its customers and prospective
26 customers and crippling its business. Id. at 17; Reply at 14–15.
27 The Government argues that Cactil could communicate with customers by
28 telephone, mail, press release, public statement; that it has not shown the survival of its
1 business is imminently threatened; that its reputational damage does not rise to irreparable
2 harm; and that its loss of business and goodwill is “largely unsupported.” Oppo. at 22–23.
3 The Court finds Cactil will be irreparably harmed if the website is not returned. The
4 parts of the seizure notice on the website that reference a cryptocurrency return fraud
5 scheme and that the seizure was issued pursuant to the statutes for criminal wire fraud and
6 conspiracy to commit fraud are effectively allegations that Cactil is committing fraud,
7 particularly because one of the business services it offers is tracing and locating stolen
8 cryptocurrency. Inferences of fraud from the FBI on a public business website used to
9 solicit customers will logically lead to real reputational damage, not just the possibility of
10 damage. Damages to goodwill and reputation can qualify as irreparable harm. Rent-A-Ctr.,
11 Inc. v. Canyon Television & Appliance Rental, Inc., 944 F.2d 597, 603 (9th Cir. 1991)
12 (citation omitted). Cactil is not claiming reputational harm from “the mere threat of
13 prosecution” as the Government contends. Oppo. at 23. In the case cited by the
14 Government, the plaintiff claimed he would suffer irreparable harm if his seized documents
15 were not returned because they could lead to his prosecution. Ramsden, 2 F.3d at 326. Here,
16 Cactil is not arguing that the seized website could lead to prosecution, which would cause
17 irreparable harm. Instead, it is claiming that the allegations of fraud in the seizure notice
18 are causing irreparable harm to its reputation. Because references to fraud were not
19 included in the notice authorized by the seizure warrant, the Court finds Cactil has
20 demonstrated irreparable harm.5 This factor weighs in favor of exercising equitable
21 jurisdiction.
22 4. Adequate Remedy at Law
23 Cactil argues that it has no other available remedy at law to request the return of its
24 property because neither a civil forfeiture proceeding nor a criminal indictment has been
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1 filed. Pet. at 18. The Government contends that civil forfeiture proceedings are underway
2 and Cactil’s Petition is premature. Oppo. at 24.
3 The Court finds Cactil has no other adequate remedy at law to seek the return of its
4 website. “[W]here the seizing party did not initiate forfeiture proceedings with regard to
5 the property, federal courts generally hold that the Rule 41(g) movant does not have an
6 adequate remedy at law.” United States v. Hurtado, No. CV 09-4206 SVW (EX), 2009 WL
7 10671968, at *8 (C.D. Cal. Oct. 7, 2009) (collecting cases). To date, there is no indication
8 that the Government has filed a civil forfeiture action. The Court is not persuaded by the
9 Government’s contention that the seizure of the website pursuant to a civil seizure warrant
10 “initiated civil forfeiture proceedings governed by 18 U.S.C. § 983.” Oppo. at 9. Until the
11 civil forfeiture action is actually filed, Cactil has no adequate remedy at law for the return
12 of its property. See United States v. Eight Thousand Eight Hundred & Fifty Dollars
13 ($8,850) in U.S. Currency, 461 U.S. 555, 568–69 (1983) (noting that a claimant can
14 “trigger rapid filing of a forfeiture action” by, inter alia, filing a motion under current
15 Rule 41(g) for a return of the seized property); Khudainatov v. United States,
16 No. 3:23-CV-01946-W-SBC, 2023 WL 7501393, at *3 (S.D. Cal. Nov. 13, 2023) (noting
17 that when a civil forfeiture action has been filed, the owners “of the seized property
18 suddenly have an adequate remedy to force the return of the property and the court hearing
19 the Rule 41(g) civil case loses jurisdiction” (citation omitted)). This factor weighs toward
20 exercising equitable jurisdiction.
21 5. Equitable Jurisdiction is Warranted
22 Each of the Ramsden factors weighs toward exercising equitable jurisdiction.
23 Therefore, the Court finds it has jurisdiction to decide the merits of Cactil’s Rule 41(g)
24 Petition.
25 B. Merits
26 Cactil argues that the Court should order the return of the MyChargeBack.com
27 website to Cactil because the Government does not need it for evidentiary purposes and
28 that it was instead seized as a “first step in preventing further fraud from occurring.”
1 Pet. at 8–9, 18; Ghose Decl. ¶¶ 7, 9. The Government does not directly address the merits
2 of Cactil’s Petition, instead relying on its arguments that the Court should not exercise
3 equitable jurisdiction, and that Cactil cannot satisfy the requirements of 18 U.S.C. § 983
4 for the return of its property. Oppo. at 11, 14, 29. However, in making these arguments,
5 the Government acknowledges that “the Website’s data can be copied and preserved,” but
6 also that it has established probable cause to believe that the website has been involved in
7 violations of federal law by virtue of the valid seizure warrant, and that the website would
8 be used to commit additional criminal acts if returned. Id. at 11, 13–14.
9 The Court reiterates the legal standard stated above. If jurisdiction is warranted, the
10 court turns to the merits and “considers whether the government’s retention of the property
11 would be reasonable under all of the circumstances.” Kardoh, 572 F.3d at 700 (citing
12 Ramsden, 2 F.3d at 326). “The United States’ retention of the property generally is
13 reasonable if it has a need for the property in an investigation or prosecution.” Ramsden,
14 2 F.3d at 326. “However, if the United States’ legitimate interests can be satisfied even if
15 the property is returned, continued retention of the property would become unreasonable.”
16 Id. (internal quotation marks and citation omitted).
17 The Court is unable to reach the merits pursuant to the procedure required by the
18 Ninth Circuit and requires supplemental briefing. The Court construed the Government’s
19 Opposition as a motion to dismiss, but it cannot decide the matter on the pleadings and
20 must now convert the Government’s Opposition into a motion for summary judgment.
21 Ibrahim, 522 F.3d at 1008. “Then, pursuant to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the
22 court should determine whether the government has demonstrated that there is no ‘genuine
23 issue as to any material fact,’ and that it is ‘entitled to judgment as a matter of law.’” Id.
24 (quoting Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(a)). However, the Court is unable to convert the Government’s
25 Opposition into a motion for summary judgment because the Government has not legally
26 or factually supported its arguments for retaining the website with any admissible evidence
27 in conformance with Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 56.
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1 |}IV. CONCLUSION
2 The Court finds it has jurisdiction to reach the merits of Cactil’s Rule 41(g) Petition
3 return of its property but requires supplemental briefing to do so. Accordingly, the
4 || Court ORDERS as follows:
5 1. On or before January 29, 2025, the Government shall file a Supplemental
6 || Motion for Summary Judgment addressing whether its retention of Cactil’s property would
7 reasonable under all of the circumstances.
8 2. On or before February 12, 2025, Cactil shall file an Opposition to the
9 || Supplemental Motion for Summary Judgment.
10 3. On or before February 19, 2025, the Government may file a Reply to Cactil’s
11 || Opposition.
12 4. The parties shall conform to the undersigned’s Civil Chambers Rules on the
13 ||Court’s website regarding motions for summary judgment. See Judge Lopez Civil
14 ||Chambers Rules, Section 3.F.
15 IT IS SO ORDERED.
16 || Dated: January 15, 2025 NO
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19 United States District Judge
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