# Thieret v. Van Meter

> District Court, N.D. Ohio · October 28, 2024

URL: https://www.frixlaw.com/law-library/cases/10664794

## Case

- **Court:** District Court, N.D. Ohio
- **Decided:** October 28, 2024
- **Opinion:** 100trialcourt
- **Cited by:** 0 later opinions in the Frix Law Library

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## How later opinions describe it (automated extraction)

- holding that the dismissal standard articulated in Ashcroft v. Iqbal, 556 U.S. 662 (2009) and Bell Atlantic Corp. v. Twombly, 550 U.S. 544 (2007) governs dismissals under 28 U.S.C. § 1915(e)(2)(B)

## Opinion text

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF OHIO
April and Ron Thieret, ) CASE NO. 5: 24 CV 1526
)
Plaintiffs, ) JUDGE JOHN R. ADAMS
)
v. )
) MEMORANDUM OF OPINION
Kerri Van Meter, et al., ) AND ORDER
)
Defendants. )
Background
Pro se Plaintiffs April and Ron Thieret have filed a civil complaint in this action against
Summit County Children Services, Case Worker Kerri Van Meter, Summit County Court of
Common Pleas Juvenile Court Magistrate David E. Fish, court-appointed attorney Jason M.
Jordan, and others. (Doc. No. 1.) With their complaint, they filed a motion to proceed in forma
pauperis (Doc. No. 2.) They have also filed numerous other motions (Doc. Nos. 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9,
10, 11, 13) and documents (Doc. Nos. 12, 14, 15, 16) in the case.
Plaintiffs’ complaint, motions, and filings are rambling and unclear and do not set forth
cogent specific factual allegations or legal claims against each Defendant, but Plaintiffs contend
in their pleadings that Defendants have violated their rights in connection with a state juvenile
court proceeding in which their minor children were removed from their custody. They seek
million of dollars in damages and other relief, including orders for custody and a visitation
schedule, striking all orders of Magistrate Fish in the state case, and removing the Magistrate
from the bench. (See, e.g., Doc. Nos.1, 1-2, 4, 6, and 13.)
Standard of Review and Discussion
Pro se pleadings generally are liberally construed and held to less stringent standards
than formal pleadings drafted by lawyers. Williams v. Curtin, 631 F.3d 380, 383 (6th Cir. 2011).
But pro se plaintiffs must still meet basic pleading requirements, and federal courts are not
required to conjure allegations on their behalf or construct claims for them. See Erwin v.

Edwards, 22 F. App'x 579, 580 (6th Cir. 2001).
Federal district courts are expressly required to screen all in forma pauperis complaints
filed in federal court, and to dismiss before service any such action the court determines is
frivolous or malicious, fails to state a claim upon which relief may be granted, or seeks monetary
relief from a defendant who is immune from such relief. See 28 U.S.C. § 1915(e)(2)(B). To
survive dismissal for failure to state a claim, a complaint must set forth sufficient factual matter,
accepted as true, to state claim to relief that is plausible on its face. Hill v. Lappin, 630 F.3d
468, 471 (6th Cir. 2010) (holding that the dismissal standard articulated in Ashcroft v. Iqbal, 556

U.S. 662 (2009) and Bell Atlantic Corp. v. Twombly, 550 U.S. 544 (2007) governs dismissals
under 28 U.S.C. § 1915(e)(2)(B)).
Further, federal courts are courts of limited jurisdiction and have a duty to police the
boundaries of their jurisdiction in every case. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(h)(3). A “district court
may, at any time, sua sponte dismiss a complaint for lack of subject matter jurisdiction pursuant
to Rule 12(b)(1) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure when the allegations of [the] complaint
are totally implausible, attenuated, unsubstantial, frivolous, devoid of merit, or no longer open to

discussion." Apple v. Glenn, 183 F.3d 477, 479 (6th Cir. 1999).
Upon review, the Court finds that Plaintiffs’ complaint must be dismissed.
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First, even according Plaintiffs’ pleadings the deference to which pro se pleadings are
entitled, they are so unclear, vague, and conclusory that they fail to meet basic federal pleading
requirements or provide factual content or context from which the Court could reasonably infer
that Plaintiffs have any plausible federal civil rights claim against any Defendant in the case.
See Lillard v. Shelby Cty. Bd. of Educ., 76 F.3d 716, 726 (6th Cir. 1996) (a court is not required

to accept summary allegations or unwarranted conclusions in determining whether a complaint
states a claim for relief).
Second, the Court lacks jurisdiction over Plaintiffs’ claims whatever they specifically
are. Federal courts lack jurisdiction over domestic relations matters. Danforth v. Celebrezze, 76
Fed. Appx. 615, 616 (6th Cir. 2003). “Rather, state courts have exclusive jurisdiction over these
matters.” Id. “Although this domestic relations exception to federal jurisdiction does not apply
to a civil action that merely has domestic relations overtones . . . , federal courts lack
jurisdiction where the action is a mere pretense and the suit is actually concerned with domestic

relations issues.” Id. The domestic relations exception precludes federal courts from hearing
cases “involving the issuance of a divorce, alimony, or child custody decree.” Ankenbrandt v.
Richards, 504 U.S. 689, 704 (1992). Although their specific claims are not clear, the core
concern of Plaintiffs’ action – custody of minor children and visitation – falls squarely within
the domestic relations matter over which the federal court lacks jurisdiction. This Court has no
jurisdiction to determine custody of minor children or order visitation.
In addition, the Court lacks jurisdiction to review or overturn judgments of a state

juvenile or domestic relations court. The Rooker-Feldman doctrine precludes federal courts
from exercising jurisdiction over actions that in substance seek appellate review of state court
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judgments, even if a plaintiff claims that a state court judgment violates his federal rights.
Dakota v. Brown, No. 3:12 CV 2110, 2012 WL 5378733, at *5 (N.D. Ohio Oct. 31, 2012),
citing Dist. of Columbia Court of Appeals v. Feldman, 460 U.S. 462 (1983); Rooker v. Fidelity
Trust Co., 263 U.S. 413, 415–16 (1923). Under the doctrine, federal courts lack jurisdiction to
determine the validity of state court judgments, as well as federal claims “inextricably

intertwined” with state court decisions. See Patmon v. Michigan Supreme Court, 224 F.3d 504,
509-510 (6th Cir. 2000). A party raising a challenge to a state court judgment or decision must
do so through the state appellate system and then directly to the United States Supreme Court.
United States v. Owens, 54 F.3d 271, 274 (6th Cir. 1995).
Plaintiffs’ action is barred by Rooker Feldman to the extent they are seeking to challenge
the validity of, modify, or overturn any judgment of a state court juvenile or domestic relations
court. See, e.g., Sefa v. Kentucky, 510 F. App'x 435, 437-38 (6th Cir. 2013) (“to the extent
[plaintiff] seeks a declaration that the state's child-custody determination was unlawful, an

injunction for the minor children's release, and monetary damages arising from the child-custody
decision, these claims constitute collateral attacks on the state court judgments terminating . . .
parental rights and [were] properly excluded from consideration by the [district] court”) (internal
quotation marks and citation omitted). See also Danforth, 76 F. App’x 615; Dunina v. Hein,
No. C-3:06-CV-383, 2007 WL 496355, at *4 (S.D. Ohio Feb. 12, 2007) (summarily dismissing
a pro se plaintiff’s civil rights complaint challenging a judge’s decisions in a state domestic
relations case). And this Court has no jurisdiction to order the removal of a state court

magistrate.
Conclusion
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Accordingly, Plaintiffs’ application to proceed in forma pauperis in the case is granted,
and for the foregoing reasons, their complaint is summarily dismissed pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §
1915(e)(2)(B) and Apple v. Glenn. The Court further certifies, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §
1915(a)(3), that an appeal from this decision could not be taken in good faith.
IT IS SO ORDERED.

Date: October 28, 2024 /s/ John R. Adams
JOHN R. ADAMS
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE

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